Week 9 is coming up for me and I am feeling pretty "experienced" at this diet. I still am so happy that I do not have the cravings I used to. What is in the IP packets to suppress the appetite, or is it the ketosis?
Tomorrow is our official first day of school for staff with a motivational speaker at the high school auditorium with a coffee and rolls, fruit breakfast, and then an all staff luncheon. I plan on bringing my OWN lunch of salad and pudding cakes and drink lots of water. I am excited to see the responses of people when they realize I have lost almost 30 pounds!
Welcome back, Carla!.. great to see you here again, we missed you... I hope things at home have gotten more settled & less stressful...
I haven't been around much for a couple of weeks, my trainer at the gym put me on her diet, which I described earlier as IP Phase two-&-a-half... I lost 5 lbs. the first week & that made me pretty happy... the second week, I ended up another lb. down, but not without some extra calorie cutting & lots stress on my part... I could already feel those old carb-cravings popping up every day...
So, this week, she gave me a new food list, which adds more carbs (oatmeal, brown rice).. today is supposed to be the first day of this phase... counting back to when I started her diet, it's been 17 days, & that was what made me realize she's got me on the 17-Day Diet... in case you're not familiar with that, (& I haven't read the book, so I don't know much about it) it has 3 different cycles, each lasting 17 days, plus a maintenance cycle... the idea is that the zig-zag between cycles keeps the metabolism guessing, thus preventing the dreaded plateau...
I still haven't decided this morning to continue with my trainer's diet... I honestly don't believe my body is ready to go back to so many carbs... at the same time, I realize Phase 1 IP protocol is not meant to be a lifelong way of eating, but I came to the conclusion some time back that most likely I will need to eat pretty much very low carb the rest of my life... I just feel better all around when I don't eat carbs... adding a little fruit during the past 17 days has been okay, but from experiences during my IP journey, I know that having more carbs than that only makes me feel awful for a couple of days... plus, I always put back on a few lbs...
So, I'm pretty sure that I'm going back to Phase 1 &/or 2 IP protocol... I'm not sure what I'll tell my trainer, if I tell her anything... she usually just asks "how's the food going?" & I say fine... so far, she hasn't asked for a report on what I'm eating, but if she ever does, what should I do?.. make something up, or tell her the truth?.. when I first started training with her almost 3 weeks ago, I told her I was on a low-carb, low-fat diet, & she thought I wasn't eating enough... she thought I'd have more energy if I added a few more calories... but the thing is, I've had less energy the last two weeks than I had before... carbs do that to me, whether I (or anybody else) like it or not...
Sorry to go on & on!.. I hope everybody is having a great weekend... mine has been okay, I led my monthly night hike last night at our local archaeological/nature center & had a good time... it felt good to get out of the gym for some exercise, even though I'm still loving going to the gym several times a week...
So, I'm pretty sure that I'm going back to Phase 1 &/or 2 IP protocol... I'm not sure what I'll tell my trainer, if I tell her anything... she usually just asks "how's the food going?" & I say fine... so far, she hasn't asked for a report on what I'm eating, but if she ever does, what should I do?.. make something up, or tell her the truth?.. when I first started training with her almost 3 weeks ago, I told her I was on a low-carb, low-fat diet, & she thought I wasn't eating enough... she thought I'd have more energy if I added a few more calories... but the thing is, I've had less energy the last two weeks than I had before... carbs do that to me, whether I (or anybody else) like it or not...
Tell her the truth. It's your body and you are going to do whatever you feel good about. Don't tell people what you think they want to hear, as it won't make you feel better and honestly it's not worth lying about.
Most people with health training think that we are not eating enough. I have several friends tell me that I am unhealthy and "starving myself" and will have problems... We are getting enough protein, and honestly if you're in ketosis your body is using fat for energy. That said, if you don't want to be losing fat, then it's a different story.
Check out "fat flush" by Ann Louise Gittleman and look at the maintenance part. It is focused on whole grains, flax, and other high fiber things. I like that or South Beach. They are both really all about low glycemic index carbs, which are the best types of carbs to eat when you need carbs.
Also, you might be sensitive to wheat and sugar and THINK you are sensitive to all carbs. Check out quinoa, beans, legumes, nuts, etc. for natural carbs and experiement with getting most of your carb calories that way.
Thanks, Pxlkitty4!.. you're right, I don't really want to lie to her... I'll just handle it the best I can if she ever asks... I'm glad you said what you did about most health trainers thinking we don't eat enough... this was my first experience with that & didn't know whether to believe her or not... as for the wheat & sugar, you could be right about that too... I know for sure I'm gluten-sensitive, if not -intolerant, but might be able to eat other carbs... for now, I'm going to go back to IP Phase 1 bootcamp & get myself back into ketosis if I can...
You sound much like me, it is likely grain carbs and sugar that get you. The theory is that all whole grain carbs are good carb but for me anything with wheat results in instant gains and lack of energy. Unfortunately just about everything has wheat in it.
Thanks, Pxlkitty4!.. you're right, I don't really want to lie to her... I'll just handle it the best I can if she ever asks... I'm glad you said what you did about most health trainers thinking we don't eat enough... this was my first experience with that & didn't know whether to believe her or not... as for the wheat & sugar, you could be right about that too... I know for sure I'm gluten-sensitive, if not -intolerant, but might be able to eat other carbs... for now, I'm going to go back to IP Phase 1 bootcamp & get myself back into ketosis if I can...
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Originally Posted by patns
You sound much like me, it is likely grain carbs and sugar that get you. The theory is that all whole grain carbs are good carb but for me anything with wheat results in instant gains and lack of energy. Unfortunately just about everything has wheat in it.
Pat
I've given up wheat a few times, and every time I go back I feel like I'm being poisoned. I don't think it's out-and-out an allergy or anything serious, but I do feel much better when I'm not eating refined carbs. I know that I will need to eat low glycemic, whole grain, when I'm in maintenance. Look for non-flour sprouted grain breads. I never had trouble with those...
By the way, my super physical a few weeks ago found me talking to a new doctor. He lectured me on "finding something that you can live with long-term" and "not gaining weight back"... I really clammed up, and just said "I will deal with that when I'm done losing weight" and changed the subject. He sounded like a strung together group of medical sound clips. It really annoyed me. My diet doctor (coach is his wife) is SO much better at really listening to me and having a real conversation.
Just think... if the medical community really solved the weight issues of the world, they would largely be out of business. So would the diet people. So would all the researchers who look at this stuff for the National Institutes of Health, CDC, etc... Don't get my started on the pharma companies. the sugar lobby, the grocery manufacturers, or the corn people who push HFCS. Call me a cynic, but there are a lot of people who make a lot of money off the confusion and never-ending quest for the answer to weight loss.
If it were simply "eat this, not that" and you will be healthy, maybe only the vegetable people would be rich.
Welcome back, Carla!.. great to see you here again, we missed you... I hope things at home have gotten more settled & less stressful...
I haven't been around much for a couple of weeks, my trainer at the gym put me on her diet, which I described earlier as IP Phase two-&-a-half... I lost 5 lbs. the first week & that made me pretty happy... the second week, I ended up another lb. down, but not without some extra calorie cutting & lots stress on my part... I could already feel those old carb-cravings popping up every day...
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I still haven't decided this morning to continue with my trainer's diet... I honestly don't believe my body is ready to go back to so many carbs... at the same time, I realize Phase 1 IP protocol is not meant to be a lifelong way of eating, but I came to the conclusion some time back that most likely I will need to eat pretty much very low carb the rest of my life... I just feel better all around when I don't eat carbs... adding a little fruit during the past 17 days has been okay, but from experiences during my IP journey, I know that having more carbs than that only makes me feel awful for a couple of days... plus, I always put back on a few lbs...
So, I'm pretty sure that I'm going back to Phase 1 &/or 2 IP protocol...... but the thing is, I've had less energy the last two weeks than I had before... carbs do that to me, whether I (or anybody else) like it or not...
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Hello Sheshie! I wasn't sure if you were just on vacation but, I knew you'd be back.
I'm happy you were able to switch things up and still keep losing. That really is a nice treat.
Trust what your body tells you. If you feel awful or even sluggish when you eat something it probably isn't the something for you.
We don't have to have lots of carbs to function. I do need some. Some of us will always do better on a low carb diet lifestyle. That doesn't mean staying ketogenic though.
I would tell her you gave it a try, you really aren't feeling as well as you were and you want to stay at a lower carb threshold. See if you can create 17 day type cycle (if you like that theory) that goes more like phase 1, then a step up in carbs, and then what you were just doing. You would still be cycling the carbs but keeping them in a range you like. That said, I don't know if cycling carbs is worth it. I will probably just focus on low GI and phase 4 combination when I am done.
Just to add to what Pxlkitty and Patns said, I have specific sensitivities that are in the carb category. I know I do poorly if I have wheat, processed grains, and processed sugars. I don't respond well with too much milk, fruit, or rice. I actually was able to maintain my weight lost until I started adding too much of the first 3 and the milk. When I was just having the whole grains (amaranth, quinoa, spelt, flax, barley, oat, beans, and some occasional fruit. I only went up 7 to 10 pounds (it fluctuated) which is what I had expected. Once I went back to eating on the run, adding "comfort" type foods on a regular basis, and adding to much processed or prepared food items, well, there was no stopping the cravings or the gains.
I would suggest listen to your body and create your diet around what you are doing well with.
Hiya 2Ride - just wanted to say thanks again for everything! It was wonderful meeting you and your dogs today, I hope we can have a puppy playdate again sometime
Hiya 2Ride - just wanted to say thanks again for everything! It was wonderful meeting you and your dogs today, I hope we can have a puppy playdate again sometime
Thank you...
You will have to tell me how you like MIO. My girls have been sleeping since we got home. I love your off leash we will for sure have to get together again.
Just to add to what Pxlkitty and Patns said, I have specific sensitivities that are in the carb category. I know I do poorly if I have wheat, processed grains, and processed sugars. I don't respond well with too much milk, fruit, or rice. I actually was able to maintain my weight lost until I started adding too much of the first 3 and the milk. When I was just having the whole grains (amaranth, quinoa, spelt, flax, barley, oat, beans, and some occasional fruit. I only went up 7 to 10 pounds (it fluctuated) which is what I had expected. Once I went back to eating on the run, adding "comfort" type foods on a regular basis, and adding to much processed or prepared food items, well, there was no stopping the cravings or the gains.
I would suggest listen to your body and create your diet around what you are doing well with.
That is very interesting. Did you find you could handle spelt well? I noticed in phase 4 oatmeal is an option and I am fine with that.
I also have problems with dairy which gives me sinus infections. I am thinking about maintenance already because I am feeling so great now without grains or dairy but will want to add the right ones back with out upsetting the applecart.
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Originally Posted by Pxlkitty4
Just think... if the medical community really solved the weight issues of the world, they would largely be out of business. So would the diet people. So would all the researchers who look at this stuff for the National Institutes of Health, CDC, etc... Don't get me started on the pharma companies. the sugar lobby, the grocery manufacturers, or the corn people who push HFCS. Call me a cynic, but there are a lot of people who make a lot of money off the confusion and never-ending quest for the answer to weight loss.
If it were simply "eat this, not that" and you will be healthy, maybe only the vegetable people would be rich.
That is very interesting. Did you find you could handle spelt well? I noticed in phase 4 oatmeal is an option and I am fine with that.
I also have problems with dairy which gives me sinus infections. I am thinking about maintenance already because I am feeling so great now without grains or dairy but will want to add the right ones back with out upsetting the applecart.
Pat
I was able to handle the spelt better than the wheat. It still wasn't my best tolerated grain but, it was equally tolerated to rye. I don't have a gluten issue as far as I can tell. HOWEVER, I am so very sensitive to normal wheat and especially flour or refined wheat.
I found the best bread for me to use was the sprouted breads or the German and Belgian style hearty breads that are thin sliced and found in the refrigerated section of whole foods or the health foods stores.
I pretty much avoided pasta. I think I only had it 2 or 3 times in the entire year I maintained my weight and each time I felt horrible afterward and had obscene overnight weight gains.
I am not proud that I messed up and gained weight but, I am able to compare to what worked and what was good and what was a total failure. I am glad that I can see pretty clearly what won't be options in the future.
I was able to handle the spelt better than the wheat. It still wasn't my best tolerated grain but, it was equally tolerated to rye. I don't have a gluten issue as far as I can tell. HOWEVER, I am so very sensitive to normal wheat and especially flour or refined wheat.
I found the best bread for me to use was the sprouted breads or the German and Belgian style hearty breads that are thin sliced and found in the refrigerated section of whole foods or the health foods stores.
I pretty much avoided pasta. I think I only had it 2 or 3 times in the entire year I maintained my weight and each time I felt horrible afterward and had obscene overnight weight gains.
I am not proud that I messed up and gained weight but, I am able to compare to what worked and what was good and what was a total failure. I am glad that I can see pretty clearly what won't be options in the future.
and it also helps of with your experience. So thank you.
Updated my progress pics again. It had been a month since I posted them here. I had done them, but didn't post them.
I can't believe that I'm almost done. What an amazing journey I've been on with all you wonderful ladies!
can't wait to see them, unfortunately cant at work... It does seem to go by fast doesn't it... until the last few pounds that is. Cant wait to see those pics.
