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Thanks ChimpChamp! I think I'll buy the asian dressing from Lindora and check it out. I make my own dressing but could sure use a change.

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Not sure how this works.......beings this thread is opened is the other one closed? I read this on the other thread and had a question

My coach told me not to exercise either because I would get new muscle and it would slow the weight process down. However I will be ending my second week and think maybe I should start exercising. Can you tell me what exactly are low intensity exercises? Is there something I can do at home? I have four small children so I do not get out much. I do have an elliptical and a total gym......are those off limits and how long should I exercise?

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Unfortunately, we are such an active group that we hit a 500 post per thread limit each week sometimes even during the week. To avoid that we try to do the multi quote in same posts. In any case, unless we come up with a different process, each week ( or when we reach 500) we have to open a new thread.

Exercise... It really is a tough thing and a question treated differently by every coach. You can see from the results on the many women here that the exercise, if don't correctly, doesn't have to impact your loss. Assuming Elizabeth (deinekatze) isn't too crazy with wedding planning this week and sees this post I am sure she will chime in; she is the "unofficial, in house personal trainer". As far as the idea of NEW MUSCLE slowing down a weight loss... I HARDLY think so. Muscle mass is component of our resting metabolic rate(RMR). As LEAN BODY MASS increase (muscle mass goes up) the RMR also goes up. By increasing muscle or by increasing the ratio of muscle on your body you will burn more calories not less. The confusion could come from the process to create muscle. In the development of muscle protein is used to create the new fibers. During the protocol of this diet Protein is also used but it is used to nourish and provide energy. It is possible there is confusion or concern that trying to build muscle while on this low calorie, very low fat and carb diet, could possible rob our body of the necessary nutrition from the protein as the protein is redirected to create muscle. The end result is we build very little muscle, lose muscle or have a net change of ZERO. The reason for that would be although you can build muscle through exercise and protein, you will also lose muscle if you don't have enough protein and your body has to "rob" it from existing muscle. THAT is possibly why any exercise is recommended at LOW intensity. You can ask those who are exercising what they do and how often. In general, what I have noticed is walking, biking, and light aerobic or weight training. Here is a link to what Elizabeth posted about knowing your heart rate training zones. It is recommended to stay in the 60 -70% training range.
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I am only 3 pounds away from the 7777777777777ssss.

Showgirlaz-Just for fun, I am trying Chaplain'swifey's 2 drinks and a jello today. She has lost a lot very quickly and you have me thinking, maybe 3 of these drinks isn't the way to go...I've never had the jello and wonder how it can be without the Whipped cream?????
AND definitely HAVE THE BABY. If you are wondering about it NOW what will you be feeling at 60 when you didn't do it?? I love my two children more than life itself. For me, there is nothing as good as being a mother and yes, I have had a pretty serious career too. Just do it right now. 60 is the new 50 anyway. You will have a 20 year old at 60. Not a problem. Read the quote you put at the top of this page.
Have a great week everyone. Aren't you glad you found IP???
WOO HOO!! 170's are calling your name! Yay!

I like the jello. I never grew up eating jello with whip cream so, not problem for me. I did try using the packaged vanilla drink with a little less water and mixed it to make a thicker mixture sort of like whipping cream. I would create two cups of jello and split my vanilla whip on top of them. It works ok.

I KNOW! I keep telling myself that too about time. Unfortunately, the part I left out, I have a lot of experience with the "child of older parent thing". My mom was born when her mom was 43. I have 5 friends who are children of parents 40 -50 years older. It was all good until the kids were in their late 20's then... it is not. I lived it with my mom. While my mom was age 30 and trying to raise 4 kiddos she was also taking care of my grandparents age 73 and 84. It was really hard on her and us. The same has been true for my friends in the same position. They are busy trying to create careers and raise families and all of a sudden they are also taking care of elderly, sick parents. It becomes quite a challenge and can be a bit much at times. From the grandchild perspective, I have lived that too. There is a joy of being so close grandparents but, when your grandparents are in their early 80's and very ill or with a form of dementia or alzheimer's that experience changes. The house is confusing and, from experience, there is a challenge balancing the needs of the kids and the elderly parents. I think I am afraid to create a scenario for a child of mine that I hated growing up in. I loved my grandparents but it was hard to live through and it was hard to watch my mom and the depression she felt from being overwhelmed. I currently take care of my 94 yr old grandparents. My grandfather was just diagnosed with moderate dementia but a very healthy body. My grandmother is very frail in bones but healthy otherwise at age 94. My father is 68 and has a few chronic illnesses. He is doing fine right now, busy traveling all the time but, he is racing against a clock just counting down to the day when, because of the illnesses, he will likely be incapacitated. That likely means a future of caring for him (already been discussed) or nursing homes (just don't have the heart to ask him to go there). Knowing all of that my fear of what a child would experience coming into my life at this stage, well, it just magnifies. I feel like it is selfish of me. I wish I hadn't grown up in that life cycle... maybe I wouldn't be thinking about it the way I do. I have talked to a therapist too, just for perspective, and he says I am over thinking it a little but, the concerns are real. That didn't help much! LOL

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Another week and more success I'm thinking! I'm on my third week and 9 lbs. down.
Nice work! Keep up the efforts!

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GOOD MORNING,

THIS IS MY 2ND WEEK ON IP. SATURDAY MAY 22 WAS MY 1ST WEIGH IN AND IM 8 POUNDS LIGHTER. I CHEATED AND JUMPD ON THE SCALE THIS MORNING AND IN TOTAL IM 11LBS LIGHTER LOL (HEHEHEHE)
Yep! You're gonna get addicted to scale hopping! It is so much fun to watch the scale drop like that. Great job on the big losses!

I don't know about missing a meal. I was told missing meals is the same as cheating to your body. NOT in terms of gains but it causes your body to starve. I WOULD NOT make a habit out of it or it will slow you down. You are probably ok if it is just the one time thing.


REPOSTING THIS!

HEY EVERYONE!!!

I have been seeing how often we have run over the 500 posts in our weekly chat. Also, have seen many comments that the thread is hard to search, hard to navigate, and cumbersome to find specific, frequent points of interest. I am concerned if we try to go to a daily chat thread it will be even more challenging for all of us and some very good information will be lost to archives as we all avoid a cumbersome search process.

To that end, I contacted Ruth to see if she, as our moderator, could help us to obtain our own sub forum in the carb counters forums ( like ATKINS thread). The advantage to this, if it were granted, would be we could have chat, sticky's by topic of really frequent and important information, and have something that is more organized and searchable. Ruth agreed to look into this for us and let us know what can be done.

IN THE MEAN WHILE, we need to try and use the multi quote as much as possible.

For those needing to know how to multi quote please, look at the lower right corner of the post above this post. notice there are icons for EDIT , QUOTE, "+, and a page with an arrow.

The icon "+ is the multi quote button.

As you read a post you wish to respond to or respond in part to, click on the "+ icon, it will go a pink red color, move to the next post and when you find another post to comment on do the same.

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ALL that you multiquoted will not be in the quick reply message window, IN THE ORDER THAT YOU CLICKED ON THE MULTI QUOTE BUTTONS.

Make your response.

Click on the post quick reply

YOU'RE DONE!! This should help keep posts under 500. Also, if you are making a comment fairly close to your last set of comments, just go to your last post, click the edit button and add any other information you wish to add.

As RockyMonarch points out:

Also: re multi-repsonses
once you click on the reply button you can go in and edit down the things you are responding to, so the whole previous message is not repeated, just the sentence or two you want to respond to. Just be sure each quote begins with bracketQUOTEbracket and each quote ends with bracket/QUOTEbracket which is what tells the software what part to put in the shaded area.


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MEMORIAL DAY!!!


Memorial day should be easy for those who are hosting a party but, for those who are faced with attending an event at another place here are a few suggestions:

Where possible, offer to contribute a dish or two to the party. Bring a nice salad and a side dish of veggies - veggie platter, pickle tray, roasted veggies (they are good cold with a little olive oil, vinegar, italian seasoning or mustard/lemon/thyme), a cucumber/tomato/raw onion salad in a vinegar and splenda dressing with a little fresh herbs like dill or basil, a tray of grilled veggies (asparagus, zucchini, mushroom, green pepper), deviled eggs, faux potatoes made with cauliflower or turnip... this can also be done as a cold salad, broccoli slaw, deviled eggs, a cold salad made of sliced chicken breast or sausage(chicken, turkey or pork in a specialty or italian style)mixed with grilled or saute veggies (green or red pepper, tomatoes, onion, zucchini, mushroom, yellow squash, brussel sprouts, asparagus, etc.), a tray of stuffed zucchini, green peppers, eggplant or mushroom; cabbage rolls, veggie "lasagne", fennel salad, zucchini and kale chips, mini sliders on portobello buns, lettuce cups or lettuce wraps - can be vegetarian, chicken, or chilled shrimp. The list goes on from there!

You should be able to eat most proteins but, to be safe take a cold bottle of water and a protein drink with you. If you can't find a protein appropriately seasoned, drink a drink.. it can be done fairly discreetly. Eat your salad and veggies and drink LOTS of water to avoid the desire for everything else.

TAKE AN EXTRA PACKET.. something you see as a "dessert" like item. Make sure it will counter a sweet tooth if you need to. If you are at a point you can have a restricted item like a bar take it. Or you can make the chocolate crepes into cookies or mini cakes. Maybe, make a dish of rhubarb! You could even offer to bring it as a side dish. Make 2 dishes one smaller low carb variety and one regular with a crumble top.

Take a small packet of sea salt with you to season your meal. Even take a small container (walmart carries a few things and so do tupperware or rubbermaid) of your homemade salad dressing. Take a small tub of WF french onion or ranch dip which you have doctored up with a little extra ranch flavor or onion flavor.. You can use it to dip raw veggie in.

If you need a drink you love: Take a pitcher of your own tea. A safe soda (if you are using them). A container of Sandy's mojitos or bahama drinks. A bottle of pelligrino and a lemon.

In general, the summer barbecue holidays should be very easy to get past. If you plan ahead, act with commitment, and don't let someone else opinions impact your decisions.

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Did you start IP in Jan? You make me very excited, as we're close to the same goals. How amazing to be only a 5 months away from goals!
You and I are similar in size too. I am 5'5 and started at 248. I have been on for a little more than 5 months ( I haven't been doing exercise and have a slow thyroid) I am at 165 now. I think, at the rate I am losing I will be at 140 in another 10 to 12 weeks. I am going to start adding exercise like CW has to see if I can get a better loss in quicker time.
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Hopefultricia: Yay for you! The 180's are around the corner and I cant wait. Im sticking pretty close to boot camp so I'm hoping to see them at my WI on Thursday. My TOM is lurking but hopefully...

Neese: Awesome job! Isn't it great when you're not so hungry too? I bet you're excited!

Happy week everyone! Oh, and thanks Carla for the Memorial Day pointers. I like the one about bringing your own dish. I believe I could turn my friends into roasted zuchini lovers. That's my new favorite. Slicing zuchini on my mandolin (is that how you spell it?) works well on getting really uniform thin slices. So good!

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GOOD MORNING,

THIS IS MY 2ND WEEK ON IP. SATURDAY MAY 22 WAS MY 1ST WEIGH IN AND IM 8 POUNDS LIGHTER. I CHEATED AND JUMPD ON THE SCALE THIS MORNING AND IN TOTAL IM 11LBS LIGHTER LOL (HEHEHEHE) This program is great. The hunger is gon, i have more energy. I went to a jamaican festival and i walked around the entire park and i wasnt even tired. i love ideal protein. SN: i forgot to eat my 2nd cup of veggie and protein pack yesterday will that effect my progess?
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Im having trouble uploading a profile image. I select the file, it appears in the profile picture box, but when I hit save changes button I get a message that the file failed to upload. Any suggestions?

The picture is there, too when I click on my name but not when I post. ???

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Sad day in my world, my dear aunt lost her battle with cancer. She was a fighter, first diagnosed with breast cancer more than 20 years ago. It returned several years ago and she fought it in every way known. She is now no longer in pain, but that doesn't comfort me much.

Do me a favor and keep yourselves healthy and get screened regularly.

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Oh sweetie - I'm so sorry!! I know how hard it is to lose someone you love, and you're right - them being at peace doesn't always bring much comfort to you in the beginning - but it will. Remember the good times, and cry when you need to. Much love today!! I'm so sorry for your loss!!
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Okay so I broke down and bought two things with my Grandpa money:

1. new bras - I started out at a 46DDD and I'm down to a 38D!
2. cute jean shorts - I started out wearing a size 24 and I bought a size 16!

Hooray!

And that's it for my big splurge with Grandpa's money lol.

Pretty great for 4 months. Have I mentioned lately that I ♥ IP?!
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Hope everyone had a great weekend!! I stuck to plan (I haven't cheated once in two weeks), but I'm so nervous about tonight wi. I swear the scale has not gone down...if anything it's gone up. I'm really irritated.

also is anyone concerned about how much Sea salt is recommended for this plan? I feel like I'm salting everything, and I know my family history of high blood pressure so I'm a bit worried!
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The picture is there, too when I click on my name but not when I post. ???
Kelly, are you trying to get a picture with your info? I think it is called an AVATAR. Under UserCP, edit Avatar. Put your picture path in there and that should do it!
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I went to the dr. this morning and I have lost a total of 47 lbs. so far. Things are still really stressful, I got divorce paperwork this week so I know the stress is contributing to my slower weight loss. Please continue to pray for me and my boys.
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Exercise... It really is a tough thing and a question treated differently by every coach. You can see from the results on the many women here that the exercise, if don't correctly, doesn't have to impact your loss. Assuming Elizabeth (deinekatze) isn't too crazy with wedding planning this week and sees this post I am sure she will chime in; she is the "unofficial, in house personal trainer". As far as the idea of NEW MUSCLE slowing down a weight loss... I HARDLY think so. Muscle mass is component of our resting metabolic rate(RMR). As LEAN BODY MASS increase (muscle mass goes up) the RMR also goes up. By increasing muscle or by increasing the ratio of muscle on your body you will burn more calories not less. The confusion could come from the process to create muscle. In the development of muscle protein is used to create the new fibers. During the protocol of this diet Protein is also used but it is used to nourish and provide energy. It is possible there is confusion or concern that trying to build muscle while on this low calorie, very low fat and carb diet, could possible rob our body of the necessary nutrition from the protein as the protein is redirected to create muscle. The end result is we build very little muscle, lose muscle or have a net change of ZERO. The reason for that would be although you can build muscle through exercise and protein, you will also lose muscle if you don't have enough protein and your body has to "rob" it from existing muscle. THAT is possibly why any exercise is recommended at LOW intensity. You can ask those who are exercising what they do and how often. In general, what I have noticed is walking, biking, and light aerobic or weight training. Here is a link to what Elizabeth posted about knowing your heart rate training zones. It is recommended to stay in the 60 -70% training range.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/othe...iet-faq-7.html
BINGO on the SWAMPED comment there ;-) I am exhausted! Don't know if it is that or what but seems like I am overly sensitive and actually cried quite a bit yesterday (a bit of a discussion with my Fiance and then watching the LOST finale...which still left me LOST btw LOL)

so to answer SweetSheila ...yes, go look at what I already posted on the Heart Rate Zones...and what I think that coach is looking at is the SCALE...again, muscle DOES WEIGH MORE THAN FAT so you may not see THAT number as drastically changing BUT look at your clothing sizes more and your inches... there in lies true victory in my opinion.




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I KNOW! I keep telling myself that too about time. Unfortunately, the part I left out, I have a lot of experience with the "child of older parent thing". My mom was born when her mom was 43... ...
I understand your concern BUT the longer you wait the harder it will be.

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I currently take care of my 94 yr old grandparents. My grandfather was just diagnosed with moderate dementia but a very healthy body. My grandmother is very frail in bones but healthy otherwise at age 94. My father is 68 and has a few chronic illnesses. He is doing fine right now, busy traveling all the time but, he is racing against a clock just counting down to the day when, because of the illnesses, he will likely be incapacitated. That likely means a future of caring for him (already been discussed) or nursing homes (just don't have the heart to ask him to go there). Knowing all of that my fear of what a child would experience coming into my life at this stage, well, it just magnifies. I feel like it is selfish of me. I wish I hadn't grown up in that life cycle... maybe I wouldn't be thinking about it the way I do. I have talked to a therapist too, just for perspective, and he says I am over thinking it a little but, the concerns are real. That didn't help much! LOL
So you are taking care of all these people... it must be a lot of work BUT who will be there for you? Inevitably those folks will move on and you will then be left with a lot of emptiness. I hate to say this but ultimately the true question is what do YOU want your life to be like? You need to take care of YOU first and then others. It is not selfish, it is how it works and you can see it when you are trained to be a rescuer of any kind... you are NOT To enter into any situation to "save" anyone if you can endanger yourself... even on planes they tell you place the mask on YOURSELF first before assisting others...because otherwise you PASS OUT and can't be of much use to anyone then right?

If you see your life as one with no children ever then that is you choice BUT try not to "assume" that a life for that child would be miserable because you had it hard too. You need to ALWAYS take care of you and stay healthy and active for YOU and that child may actually have quite a phenomenal life! We can't live our lives for others...and THAT I had to learn from being a mom myself believe it or not... kids are yours to an extent as they are their own people and will make their own decisions and live their own lives...you never can predict what will it be like for them. We try as parents to provide and make sure they are always good... yet ultimately it is them who decide and chose and have to go through their own experiences. We just give them foundations to go from.

Chose for YOU girl, it is time that YOU do for YOU. If you feel a baby would be amazing and a blessing and make your life beautiful and happy then GO FOR IT!

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Could The Fine Herb Eggs Be Cooked In The Microwave?
Yep!! I have an microwave omelet maker I picked up at WalMart and make the Fine Herb Omelet in it every morning. I go 33 seconds twice, flip it over and mic for another 22 seconds. Very good.

NEWS FLASH: I tried on some clothes that my daughter had given me this morning and they ALL FIT!!! 2 wks ago they didn't....I LOVE IP!!!!!!

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Can't remember who it was that asked me but here is some info on L-Carnitine

In the strictest sense L Carnitine is not an amino acid, but a substance related to the B vitamins. However, due to its chemical structure, which is similar to those amazing amino acids it is usually considered together with them.

It's primary role is to help transport fatty acids into the energy producing units in the cells - the mitochondria, where they can be converted to energy. This is a major source of energy for the muscles, including those of the heart. As such, carnitine increases the use of fat as an energy source.

Carnitine is manufactured by the body if sufficient amounts of iron, vitamin B1, vitamin C, niacin, vitamin B6, lysine, and methionine are available. Carnitine also enhances the effectiveness of antioxidant vitamins C and E.

Carnitine is often referred to as a protein-like substance or a vitamin-like substance.

A carnitine derivative – an ester called acetyl-l-carnitine is thought to slow the aging of the brain as well as other nerve cells.

How Can L Carnitine Benefits – Benefit You?

Carnitine plays an important role in preventing fatty buildup, especially in the heart, liver, and skeletal muscles, and it helps keep blood levels of cholesterol and triglycerides in check.

The heart depends on adequate concentrations of carnitine for normal heart function.

Carnitine supplements are used to help people with carnitine deficiencies. More specifically, some people cannot properly absorb this nutrient from foods or have dietary deficiencies and thus would benefit from taking a supplement. Carnitine deficiencies may be caused by genetic disorders, liver or kidney problems, and certain medications. In addition, inadequate intake of iron, vitamin B1, vitamin C, niacin, vitamin B6, lysine, and methionine can result to a carnitine deficiency. Some symptoms of deficiency include: fatigue, chest pain, muscle weakness, and confusion.

In addition to the above aforementioned L-carnitine benefits, L-carnitine supplementation may benefit individuals with the following conditions:

Carnitine may be useful for angina pectoris, congestive heart failure, and elevated cholesterol and triglyceride levels. It is also used for recovery from a heart attack.

In fact, in several large clinical trials conducted in Italy, this nutrient has shown to have boastful favorable effects in helping people recover more quickly from heart attacks. For example, according to the well-renowned tome The Pill Book Guide to Natural Medicines written by Michael Murray N.D. who states:

"Subjects taking carnitine showed significant improvements in heart rate, blood pressure, angina attacks, rhythm disturbances, and clinical signs of impaired heart function compared to the subjects taking placebo."

Carnitine has been used experimentally for Alzheimer's and age-related memory impairment. Acetyl-L-carnitine, or ALC--is currently being studied in supplement form as a possible treatment for memory loss associated with aging and Alzheimer's disease. Some studies have shown L- acetylcarnitine may help delay the progression of Alzheimer's disease. In addition, it may relieve senile depression and other forms of dementia, and improve memory in the elderly. However, results from other studies have been conflicting. As such, more research is needed to determine efficacy.

Carnitine may be helpful to those that suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome. Studies have shown decreased carnitine levels in many chronic fatigue sufferers.

Carnitine (L-propionylcarnitine) has been used in connection with intermittent claudication, a peripheral vascular disease of the legs. At least one well-designed study suggests that carnitine supplements, particularly proprinylcarnitine may improve muscle function and exercise capacity in those with peripheral vascular disease (PVD). In other words, PVD sufferers may be able to walk farther and longer.

Carnitine has also been used for male infertility. Low sperm count and abnormal motility have been linked to low carnitine levels in men. Several studies have shown that L-carnitine helped increase sperm counts and motility.

Other conditions L-carnitine supplementation may be of benefit include:

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