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Old 03-20-2008, 01:31 PM   #181  
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Woohoo Cammie good for you for saying NO to a yummy bagel with butter...

i hope you are eating more than an apple for breakfast.


gahudy thanks for the advice.... I don't want to 'cheat' at this... still working on eating slowly and mindfully!!!
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Cammie-try inculding some protein in the morning, maybe a slice of ww toast w/ pnut butter on it to go with your cereal. if i eat both carbs and protein it seems to last longer. great job on NOT stopping for a bagel. i know when i found out that i am allergic to wheat, the bagel was the thing i missed the most! have a great rest of your day!
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LOL! Yes I am definitely eating more than an apple for breakfast. I had a bowl of cereal with skim milk and two slices of turkey bacon. The turkey bacon is a staple, I have that every morning, but this was the first morning I had cereal with the bacon. It just wasn't enough, I needed something more substantial.
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i can't do cold cereal for breakfast... leaves me starving. i have to do oatmeal and an egg and v8 and there is milk fruit and smart balance in my oatmeal



CREDIT ME: i went to Ruby Tuesdays and ate on plan came home had coffee (i always have coffee when i come home) and then i saw the pistachios and i wanted them and i counted out my 30 but because they were not planned I PUT THEM BACK!
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ladybugnessa – “if you are already exercising do you really need to work on it more? “

Yes I do since I feel that any time I will can just stop cold. I’m sure it is one of the many mental games that run though my head. I just know that I’m not comfortable with that part of Beck right now.



CammieCam – I’ve found that if I eat some low fat protein with my fruit it keeps me full. My breakfast is cream of wheat (comfort food reminds me of home) I make it with water. I put a small package of raisins in it some benafiber powder a few crushed walnuts a splash of vanilla soy milk. I drink water and sometime finish my cup of coffee with vanilla soy milk. I found this fills me up and I have more than enough energy for my workouts.



Today I did the 4 mile fast walk twice so 8 miles minus the jogging. I’m really hoping to be in onelander by April but I’ll not keep my hopes up. A good note I tried on all my spring clothes and nothing fits. All too big. So I am very happy.
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Mez: your bfast sounds yummy!! i love cream of wheat, i never thought about putting that many flavors in it! i will have to try that with oatmeal.
nessa: good job NOT eating an unplanned snack and GREAT job for staying on plan at Ru by Tuesdays! i just love that restaurant!
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:04 AM   #187  
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Diet Coaches – The rain parted just in time for me to take my lunchtime walk. CREDIT moi. Because of an event last night I had to have a light dinner early (at 5:30 p.m.). I didn't think of food until I got home at 8:45 and had my evening snack of a Navel Orange. Nice to be reminded that when I'm in a place where food isn't available, I don't think about it, since when I'm at home, despite how busy I am, I sometimes think about the food that's in the fridge. It's a good reminder for me that it's desire not hunger.

Mez (mezmerize) - Good luck reading the "the fitness in Beck."

Cammie (CammieCam) - Kudos for sticking to plan with the apple snack. Sounds like you have a sound plan for breakfast and are just working the volume aspect - good luck with that. Thanks for the story of the woman who stayed on plan with institutional food; I agree with you, if she can do it then certainly I can.

onebyone – Congrats on the loss. Have a grand time as well as a safe trip to see Wayne Newton!

amy (gahundy) – LOL at "why do you want your breasts to grow?" Now you have me drooling for peaches. Kudos for skipping the fast food breakfast.

Nessa (ladybugnessa) - You wrote "if you are already exercising do you really need to work on it more?" My take was that if I could complete the checklist, then I had "completed" the Program-day. So someone who is already working an eating plan and exercise plan easily goes through those check lists based on their current work. It did, however, take me 74 calendar days to do the 42 Program-days because I dawdled over some exercises, like the hunger day, until I actually did it. Good luck.

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Old 03-21-2008, 06:56 AM   #188  
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Good morning fellow travelers!

My schedule has me in a whirl and I have not had a chance to check in here to do this site justice and read the posts. Hopefully I will have a chance later today to catch-up.

Today I’m working on Day 11…hunger…desire…craving. I’ve lagged a little. Exercise is still not where I want it to be and I’m putting off Day 12 (which I’ve nicknamed “Starvation Day”…scary for me) until a weekday when I’ll have more distractions and less easy access to food.

Just want to mention briefly my WI “experience” from yesterday.

My normal pattern…. for say ...WWs ...when I was on that program and weighing in each week at a meeting and losing really well… was to starve myself for a couple of days before WI. I HAD to starve myself before that WI, because after I had successfully dropped on the scales at the meeting each week… I would go home and EAT. Like a maniac sometimes. Anything and everything. And though I’d tell myself that I would stop after the day was over, sometimes this would go on for more than one day. Thus the starvation periods leading up to weigh day got longer and longer in order to still drop on the scales. Talk about a very sick unhealthy unbalanced way to be living.

This binge/starve mode of eating is my enemy. Making changes that I can live with and that will support my health and well being is its cure. And this is so very hard for me. It’s all in my thinking and my behaviors.

I know it has something to do with authority and rebellion. (Maryblu, I was also the first daughter in the family… but I was the deliberate and embattled black sheep and proud of it! LOL)

I was caught in a struggle…like “I’ll show that scale who’s the boss!” I hated those weigh ins. I felt like a captive and I fought against it. I felt lost and out of control.

Now I am slowly allowing myself to realize there is no authority…only my choices. I can choose to stay fat. Or I can choose a healthy balanced lifestyle that will support weight loss and maintenance. It’s up to me. And I’m going to ultimately make that choice anyway with each bite that I take, so I might as well be “armed” with the alternatives I’m learning from Beck. It’s powerful.

After my bingy kind of behavior last week… my first inclination was to starve the following day. And it’s more than an inclination… it’s a drive, it’s so embedded in my second nature. But Beck says don’t… just calm down and move on and eat normally. Wow. I did that against everything inside me telling me to do otherwise, and it was great. I felt great. I felt free.

I weighed in yesterday. And despite eating more calories consistently each day over the last week and even with the lapse into trigger food, I still lost 1.5 pounds. I was shocked. I still can’t believe it.

And I didn’t binge at all yesterday. I broke a pattern. I am sure it’s not gone forever. But if I continue to do this consistently, I think that eventually it will be gone…. for good.

It feels so good just to write this down. Kudos me for believing in Beck against every fiber in me that told me not to.

Happy Friday my dear friends!

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Ellen: you are well on your way to overocming this struggle! i am also glad that you still lost weight so that you could see that even with a lapse (on occasion) you are still on the right track, which makes it easier for you to stay there.
GREAT JOB!!!
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:26 AM   #190  
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good morning. read my day "set realistic goals" at the dentist this morning waiting for DH who had eight (yes EIGHT) teeth pulled... home now taking care of him.

I can easily set 5 pound goals. I've lost 5 pounds 11 times so far. now i'm 2 more pounds from the next 5 goal... I can do this.

thinking of having my reward be to be a small ladybug tattoo for each 5 I lose from now on.
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:46 PM   #191  
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I'm back from my whirlwind trip to see Wayne Newton. I am really glad I saw his show. His voice wasn't good. It cracked and faded in and out and when he talked it warbled like old people's voices can do. He mentioned being on the Dancing with the Stars tour, 45 cities in 45 days, and then he played two nights at the casino where we were. I kept wanting him to rest his voice. Even with this, the show, and Wayne, was everything I hoped it would be. DH and I had a great time with the over-70 crowd around us .... AND on top of all that he sang Mack the Knife. Awesome. And played an electric fiddle?! Who knew? I didn't. I was laughing asking DH if he could feel the "sexual tension" in the air. I tell you, many of those ladies would have gone to Wayne's room in a second! It bodes well for my future sex life, that there will still be one haha!

So, to important things now coaches. Foodwise I didn't do too well. I did not stick to plan. I overate. But not to really really stuffed, only to overfull, and this includes one meal at a buffet. I kept thinking of BillBlueEyes and his post one day where he said he was allowed seconds of soup and salad and nothing more. I didn't have seconds of anything but made sure I ate soup first. And slowly. But there were some changes. I wrote down what I ate. And like I said I was at a buffet and only took one plate, no seconds, and filled up with soup. I did some bored eating in the car. Not good. I would have been fine WW points foodplan-wise had I not eaten in the car. We got home this afternoon and once in the door I have been a bit of an eating machine here at home. I've stopped now. I foolishly stepped on the scale when we came home and saw 258. I said to myself "oh you can only lose like 3 pounds before tomorrow's weighin so you're going to be higher than last week again. And so this week is going to end as a failure for you." So after this negative self-talk, I came downstairs and ate some more. argh. But I've stopped now.
And I am here posting.
And what's a pound or two or three? It's most likely water weight.
Most positively, I did swim for 30 minutes at the hotel yesterday and I did the treadmill this morning for 20 sweaty minutes. I didn't throw everything Beck has taught me out the window. Far from it. I just could not manage to stay totally on my foodplan while away so I feel down about that. I don't want to see weight gain and that's all. I am really glad I went though.


ladybugnessa Wow having 8 teeth pulled at one time is a lot. He is lucky to have you there for him! And congrats on all your weightloss to date. you are so close to the next 5. I find it hard to figure out what kind of reward I really want. Ladybug tattoos sound cute.

gahundy Recently I tried mixing a serving of peanut butter into my oatmeal for a protein boost. I kind of liked it, I think? It was suggested to me by a WW member who has maintained her loss for 2 years now so I take advice from her seriously.

SeaChild I so relate to the binge/starve cycle especially related to wanting the scale show a "good" number. I am fighting that thinking today, right now, as I write this. For me it's a prime example of self-deception, as if I can even control the scale anyway. I can't. It will give me whatever number it wants. I cannot will it to do anything ever. I can stick to my plan. I can stay positive. I can get back on plan if I am wavering or off altogether. It's great you're getting real insight on this binge/starve cycle. I too have made progress with it. It's really a big part of me carrying so much weight for so long. I can see Beck helping with it. Thanks for your post on this topic.

BillBlueEyes I fought off a lot of food desire over my trip. I gave in to others. But judging by how I feel right now, I wish I would have stayed the course. It's a positive sign, in a back handed way, as I can see that I do really want this to work. And your past words regarding eating out came in handy so thank you for your thoughtful posts.

mezmerize Great going keeping up with all those workouts. Those 4 mi dvd's are challenging. You should be very proud to do it once, let alone twice! No doubt you will see onederland. It's sure to happen.

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I've resolved that I won't bring these binge-inducing foods into my kitchen no matter how I feel when I'm in the grocery store. I just have to do it.
There are certain foods that I can't have around me. I really will eat them. In the car on the trip there were 6 mini chocolate eggs. I, without thought, greedily took 3 for DH and 3 for me from the reception desk at the school where I work right before we started out for our long drive. I ate my 3 really fast. DH ate one. I kept looking at his 2 shiny ones in the bottom of the cupholder and at one point about 2 hours into the drive I ate one of his. Oh he was mad! he said it was like living with a kid. I thought "He doesn't want this. if he did he would have eaten it by now." uh, wrong. So, there's a clear example of my inability to stop sometimes. If I hadn't have taken them I would have stayed on plan and not had that scene with DH. Live and learn.
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Hello All,

currently very over helmed due to a number of things-Like you Onebyone I have not thrown out everything I have learned from Beck-some good stuff has remained with me but really struggling with using food to cope with the feelings of being overwhelmed, stressed, exhausted and ill. It is that tough one of desire versus hunger. I am overeating which is underming my behavior changes but the good new it is healthy stuff-that is all I have the house. Still too old nasty habits are cropping back-too much food and late night eating. Very busy day Sat. but really hope to swim tomarrow-did get an hr in today-it windy and freezing. While the burning of cals and strengthing is important right now I just love how calm I feel swimming. But the most important goal for me tomarrow is Not to eat after dinner. We have more rounds of activities then a healing lull will happen starting after Sunday.

I have working on Beck for months and here I am again coping with desire. I can hear myself say that I know I am not hungry-that I trying to use food to "reward" me and make me feel "better". I know it is a lie but there I am overeating. I am not hopeless but sure annoyed with myself!! this too will pass and I will return to again be successful using all the skills of Beck.

What things help you guys to get back on target and seriously get back to work on changing old habits?

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Diet Coaches – For lunch at work yesterday I had the corned beef and cabbage left over from St. Patrick's day. Standard CREDIT moi. However, I carefully chose all the cabbage, onions, and carrots, but only a small portion of the boiled potatoes, leaving some potatoes behind (to be fed to the worms in the compost bin). BIG CREDIT moi for leaving food to be thrown away, that's an action that's still pretty new for me.

[Looking for someone to start the discussion for Program-day 15: Monitor Your Eating. (Thanks Heidi (hbuchwald) for starting Program-day 14.)]


Sue (CoastalSue) - Sending tons of supporting thoughts as you struggle with your food plan even as you excel with your exercise plan. BIG Kudos for sticking with the struggle even with being public with your diet coaches here on 3FC. Hope the weather stay clear enough for you to be able to continue to swim and get the calming that you derive from that.

onebyone – So glad that the Wayne Newton performance met your expectations. Great story about the 70 year olds in the audience. Kudos for handling the buffet and for sufficiently staying on/near plan for the trip, and BIG Kudos for coming back with your attitude in the right place.

Ouch for your dustup with DH about the chocolate egg. I really appreciated the story because it reminded me of my own dustup with DW a few years ago when I was still in continuous grazing mode. I thought I understood our relationship after (then) some 25 years of marriage. I made assumptions about the intimacy implied by having kids together, a joint checking account, pillow talk, and bedroom activities. Apparently, I was presumptuous in assuming a level of intimacy that included her chocolate bar in the freezer, when I helped myself to a piece. Presumptuous indeed; I never knew that she measured and treasured her chocolate stash and considered herself violated by my transgression. So I know now, LOL, after 30+ years of marriage, that her chocolate is in the same category as her diary and her underwear drawer. [Note to all fathers out there: Be sure to add chocolate to the topics of your father/son chat.]


Black sheep Ellen (SeaChild) - Kudos for breaking the cycle of starving/bingeing, and Kudos for being so aware of your actions on this, including Kudos for giving yourself credit. Congrats for the 1.5 pound loss. And BIG Kudos both for believing in your Beck path and for giving yourself credit. Sending supporting thoughts for "Starvation Day."

Nessa (ladybugnessa) - Kudos for eating on plan at Ruby Tuesdays. Kudos for carefully counting out a portion size of 30 pistachios instead of eating from the bag. BIG Kudos for not eating them. Kudos for having a planned reward for each 5 pounds lost. Do you have to plan the locations in advance for a flock of ladybugs or just assign a new spot for each one when it happens? Sending eight healing thoughts to your DH.

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gahundy – I also buy dehydrated fruit . It’s made for toddlers. I bought it for my grandkids and put a few in my cream of wheat and it was great!!! It’s made my Gerber and Wal mart also has its own brand. There are many kinds.


BillBlueEyes – I find I think about the food in fridge will think of desire not hunger. Thanks Bill Kudos on once again throwing food out. I’m sure the worms will enjoy the potatoes.



SeaChild – Congrats on the loss and making the changes at WI time!!


ladybugnessa – Your reward sounds cute! Congrats on the 5 lbs 11 times. Breaking down works for me.


onebyone – “I was laughing asking DH if he could feel the "sexual tension" in the air. I tell you, many of those ladies would have gone to Wayne's room in a second!”

Kudos for sticking to soup and 1 serving. Water weight to me is a warning to be good our else!! Kind of like my mom telling me one more time and you are in big trouble! Swimming will be a huge help in getting things back in place if you can avoid it don’t step on that scale if it will interfere with your WL. This is a learning process and I feel you did very well ONLY 1 serving at the buffet!!! I’m don’t think I could have done that!!



coastalsue – I do a number of things, quotes that I read and look at pictures of myself before and now and I have theme songs. Like Break On Threw To the Other side – By The Doors, It Don’t Come Easy – John Lennon & Ringo Starr, Sexyback - Justin Timberlake, Bony Moronie - Larry Williams. (I don’t want to be bony it inspires me to keep going)


As for me yesterday was crazy! I did my 8 miles once again. I didn’t get enough calories in which worries me. I’m going to be better today. I just didn’t have the options yesterday. Due to my lack of planning. There was too much food porn where I was at and I felt it was best to skip then to start and not stop. I did eat when I got home but at is was ½ till bed time I kept it light.
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Happy Saturday my Beck Friends...

thanks for all the well wishes...

Mezmerize I am so jealous you can do 8 miles. I'm not allowed to walk for exercise even when my ankle is not bothering me.... good for you!

BBE I have not yet gotten to 'leave food behind" good for you! that one scares me.

Sue have a good day darling and know that we all struggle... at least I do.

OnebyOne buffets are always my downfall!

my ladybugs will either be down my spine like spots or on my right wrist like a bracelet.

this weekend i will work hard on days 4 and 5 eat sitting down and eat slowly and mindfully. those are my two days that are still so hard for me. especially eat slowly and mindfully. so my plan is to work those days today and tomorrow.

have a great day everyone.
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