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Old 09-11-2012, 08:50 AM   #391  
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Ishbel: What fun to plan your wedding and to find a dress!!!When are you getting married?

Lizr: It is funny how your tastes change...not liking something you always enjoyed before. Like you..if I am going to indulge in something, I sure want it to be good.
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I am REALLY looking forward to planning the IP wedding too!!!!

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Ishbel: What fun to plan your wedding and to find a dress!!!When are you getting married?

Lizr: It is funny how your tastes change...not liking something you always enjoyed before. Like you..if I am going to indulge in something, I sure want it to be good.
It was such AWFUL pizza! I had already planned to have Saturday as my 'cheat day' by having some birthday cake & some drinks, and honestly - it did NOT even appeal to me on the menu, I had already wanted to order a Spinach Salad with Chicken - but then hubby wanted to share a pizza, so I went ahead and changed my order....it was Simply. Bad. Food. Not only bad for me, it tasted bad, and I physically felt drained afterwards, I did not end up ordering any drinks - I would have passed out from lethargy. Don't get me wrong - I do enjoy GOOD pizza, with QUALITY ingredients - this was the opposite and soooooo not worth it. Lesson = Learned (the hard way). What a waste of a perfectly good cheat day!!

And then to add insult to injury on our drive back to Dallas, which was my Phase 1 day afterwards, I ended up picking up a bag of beef jerky on one of our stops and afterwards looked at the label and saw it had 15g of carbs, all from sugar! It was another reminder that I really can't drop my guard - I was always so careful and planned so well when I was strictly Phase 1 - less than 2 weeks ago!! - and feel foolish for being so ill prepared on Sundays drive.

I'm finding that sticking to the Phase 4 sheet 'food combos' is getting to be really stressful for me and am going to be sticking more to Phase 3-ish eating from here on out mostly. I simply don't miss the carbs and was making more work for myself trying to fit that in to my daily eating schedule. But I do enjoy the fruit & dairy with breakfast and the ability to do high intensity workouts again. Now that I've found zucchini lasagna and cauliflower pizza, what else do I need!!! Lol....

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Day one of Phase 3. I think I already screwed up. I followed the guidelines on the phase 3 sheet, but after I figured it all up on Myfatsecret, I had double the calories! And too much fat! GRRRR.

Sort of confusing, but I guess I will try again tomorrow. Less Bread, less fat, maybe.

I already miss phase 1!
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I had to weigh in today, a day early. -3.2 pounds. I'm happy with that, especially since last nights dinner was missing veggies as we were out!

5.8 to go in the next 14 days!
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Hey Hey Everyone,

Pleased to announce that I'm back to Phase 4 today with 4 lbs under goal this morning - 2 lbs from where I left to go to Scotland. I am happy that I'm back to 'normal' as jetlag has me firmly in it's grip and I'm now getting sick...bought NyQuil for the first time in almost 2 years. I find I don't get as sick as much since I started IP, must be all the veggies...I was very sad to have to buy medication and a crap load of sugar free halls!

maile Actually I wasn't having much fun yesterday (being sick probably didn't help), who knew it would be so difficult to book a hall AND a church on the same date. He should have asked me a year ago apparently to be married in June of next year! lol Dress is a long ways away (or at least feels like it!)

delgan phase 3 can be confusing I always found it helpful to use fatsecret or what I'm using now...My Net Diary to keep track of what I'm doing. Even now I my habit is logging the night before. You'll get it! I only ever figured out one breakfast using the foods I liked...many people figure out more then one. I'm too much of a creature of habit in the mornings, I don't want to think. So I just eat the same thing every morning and change the fruit.

New Englander what did you decide to do with your phasing?
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Day one of Phase 3. I think I already screwed up. I followed the guidelines on the phase 3 sheet, but after I figured it all up on Myfatsecret, I had double the calories! And too much fat! GRRRR.

Sort of confusing, but I guess I will try again tomorrow. Less Bread, less fat, maybe.

I already miss phase 1!
Phase 3 is a little stressful for breakfast, but so good! I was able to lose a little more on it, at work I would have: greek yogurt with cinnamon and truvia, added 1/4 cups of museli cereal and a banana with almond butter.
during weekend I would make multi grain pancakes with a little butter, WF syrup, berries. some times I would do toast with egg/cheese, turkey sausage and fruit.
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Day one of Phase 3. I think I already screwed up. I followed the guidelines on the phase 3 sheet, but after I figured it all up on Myfatsecret, I had double the calories! And too much fat! GRRRR.

Sort of confusing, but I guess I will try again tomorrow. Less Bread, less fat, maybe.

I already miss phase 1!
Cindy, dont panic. I had a couple of different breakfasts to choose from, but my favorite was...

1 cup Greek yogurt
1 cup berries
1 Thomas's whole grain sandwich thin, toasted
1 TBSP maranatha almond butter

Relax.. You have this under control.

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Ishbel: Congratulations! So true about working out on the cheat day and being so very hungry the next day when doing Phase 1.

LizRR: Absolutely agree the fun day food better be both high quality and amazing. Otherwise, bad pizza or non-chocolate desserts aren't appealing. But even bad wine is OK with dinner a few times a week ; )

mom2: how nice that your diligence to p1 was rewarded on the scale

Anyone still use IP products, for snacks or after work outs?
Do you use good (aka tasty, healthy) alternates instead?
Did you find some whole foods that are just as satisfying?

I tried a few random drinks and a quest bar and I wasn't impressed, although the price was so much better. Are the Proti-thin Chocolate Wafers as good as/better than the Strawberry Wafers? I'm using that as an evening snack/protein treat. Using the chocolate drink mix after workouts.

Anyone doing Phase 4 "as written"? Basically a Phase 3 kind of breakfast with fats at lunch and carbs at dinner? I guess what I'm really asking is if anyone started out that way and it got them into trouble (gained while following it) or they couldn't keep it up (like LizRR said--too stressful or other reasons) and then switched to the P2/P3 type days that many of you have mentioned. Right now I like the rhythm of phase 4, but I'm still working out the kinks.

Anyone not do a fun day every week? Sometimes something that is more of a slip feels better than an eating free-for-all, so I'm trying to figure out if the day of extra calories is what is important.

Thanks!
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Cindy, dont panic. I had a couple of different breakfasts to choose from, but my favorite was...

1 cup Greek yogurt
1 cup berries
1 Thomas's whole grain sandwich thin, toasted
1 TBSP maranatha almond butter

Relax.. You have this under control.

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Thanks! I won't panic. My sheet from ip is confusing. But I think I have it figured out. I had both a dairy and a fat. Had almost 800 calories! Yikes. I will try again tommorrow and figure out the totals before I eat it!
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I have been on maintenance for about 6 weeks and have found it difficult to record what I am eating because I seem to hyper focus on it too much and then not allow myself to try and eat a variety because I don't want to have to figure out all the carbs and get more confused. I do tend to eat alot of the same foods, maybe because I am still enjoying having real food and I haven't tired of the same things yet. I found that I am not real interested in eating carbs at dinner so tend to stick to protein and veggies with a glass of wine some nights. I was still losing because I hadn't added enough carbs back in so for the last few weeks I have been adding quinoa or garbanzo beans to my lunchtime salad, along with some fruit and I have been at a stable weight give or take a pound since. I also found that unless we go out or have plans, I really haven't had a true "fun" day. I also want to have something I truly want if I'm going to splurge and it needs to be good quality, not just to be eating because I can! Hopefully, as we get closer to the holidays I will still be able to say that, but right now what I am doing seems to be working.
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Thanks! I won't panic. My sheet from ip is confusing. But I think I have it figured out. I had both a dairy and a fat. Had almost 800 calories! Yikes. I will try again tommorrow and figure out the totals before I eat it!
Do you have a worksheet?
I probably found the attached one in the stickies.

You can have both a dairy and a fat as long as it totals to 15g of fat or less.
(You could have fat free yogurt and peanutbutter or low fat yogurt and cream cheese, kind of like that).

That breakfast remains the best meal of the day for me. Just keep the future ones in the 400 to 500 calorie range, with the variety from the groups shown on the worksheet.

You can make the foods anything from the categories -- rice, oatmeal, cold cereal/doesn't have to be bread, any fruit in the portion to fit the carbs, protein can be anything, not just eggs or if the Greek yogurt gets the protein up high enough, that can count too.

I'm sure at this point, you really just want to have a shake and be done with it!
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I have been on maintenance for about 6 weeks and have found it difficult to record what I am eating because I seem to hyper focus on it too much and then not allow myself to try and eat a variety because I don't want to have to figure out all the carbs and get more confused.
I understand. I do want to track what I eat, but I don't want to put everything into my one cup measure at every meal, and what's the point of putting it into myfitnesspal if you don't know quantities (and, per my coach, IP doesn't want us to count calories.) I'm trying to figure out what a serving of vegetables should be, but I do still measure what I see as the limited items at breakfast and lunch, and sometimes measure the vegetables at lunch to be sure I am eating enough of them. Plus, I pay careful attention to the quantity of the carbs at dinner; I do try to make the amount "about a cup".

I do tend to eat alot of the same foods, maybe because I am still enjoying having real food and I haven't tired of the same things yet. I found that I am not real interested in eating carbs at dinner so tend to stick to protein and veggies with a glass of wine some nights. I was still losing because I hadn't added enough carbs back in so for the last few weeks I have been adding quinoa or garbanzo beans to my lunchtime salad, along with some fruit and I have been at a stable weight give or take a pound since.
I really like my set breakfast and rarely mix it up, because I can't think of anything that I would want more. I added 1/8 cup of nuts (measured!) or a tablespoon of peanutbutter to lunch because I just found it unsatisfying if it doesn't end in an IP sweet. I like being able to have some of what the rest of the family is eating for dinner, but I don't mind having something else, either. I'm working on getting dinner to be mostly what we will all eat, with me paying attention to portion sizes.

I also found that unless we go out or have plans, I really haven't had a true "fun" day. I also want to have something I truly want if I'm going to splurge and it needs to be good quality, not just to be eating because I can! Hopefully, as we get closer to the holidays I will still be able to say that, but right now what I am doing seems to be working.
It is so great that you found what works for now. It is kind of ironic that the fun day is messing me up a little. For the most part we eat so "clean" with IP, that I don't want to mess it up by eating total garbage on a fun day, more like just mixing carbs & fats to make it fun. I just watch the weight rise after the fun day and then take the rest of the week to drop back, then it repeats. It seems to stay within 4 lbs, but it has only been about 3 weeks of "real" p4. I am trying to figure out where to set my "rumble strip" and at what point to do more than one p1 day or to go with some other variant that keeps the rise and fall more within 2 lbs. Also, changing up exercise messes with things, too.
It is a very interesting journey. Thanks for sharing part of yours.
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Do you have a worksheet?
I probably found the attached one in the stickies.

You can have both a dairy and a fat as long as it totals to 15g of fat or less.
(You could have fat free yogurt and peanutbutter or low fat yogurt and cream cheese, kind of like that).

That breakfast remains the best meal of the day for me. Just keep the future ones in the 400 to 500 calorie range, with the variety from the groups shown on the worksheet.

You can make the foods anything from the categories -- rice, oatmeal, cold cereal/doesn't have to be bread, any fruit in the portion to fit the carbs, protein can be anything, not just eggs or if the Greek yogurt gets the protein up high enough, that can count too.

I'm sure at this point, you really just want to have a shake and be done with it!
Thank you so much! all of you are so, so helpful! i will use the worksheet. my coach seemed to think this was a no brainer. Well, 10 brains are better than no-brains for sure!
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Infoplease: I am probably different from most people here. I mainly follow Phase 3 and do not have fun days. I indulge in a meal now and then if I want..or add carbs such as black beans or tabouli in small amounts. I am not using packets anymore. I just have nuts for snacks. If I do Phase 1 it is totally low carb without packets. But like I said, most people here are doing things differently.

Dlegen> It really helped me to plan and calculate breakfasts nutritionally.Then you can choose one and relax. They are a great part of my day.

Lori: I agree with you. I would rather eat carbs at lunch than dinner. I also went through an phase where I continued to lose. I added avocado or tahini for lunch..or garbanzos.

Ishbel: I hope you are feeling better. It is not fun to be sick. I am working with kids and I hope all of these vegetables keep my immune system up!

Momto 2cs: great job on losing 3 pounds. You are doing it. It must be that club soda!!

Lizr: That was too bad about not having a good pizza..Plus jerky can have sugar. I can survive on zuchinni lasagna and cauliflower pizza as well.
I stick to Phase 3 also.. Last night I tried spaghetti squash with feta, olives, basil and onions. It was delicious. Today I am going to check the carbs!

Have a great Wednesday maintainers!
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Clearly maintaining is different for everyone and requires trial and error. Maile's plan is nice because no days are restrictive and you aren't forever contemplating a splurge...I will consider that again when my 21 days are up.
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