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Old 05-03-2011, 10:25 PM   #406  
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Congratulations on making your goal!! I also just wanted to say hi! How's your poodle doing? I just got one in from rescue as a foster. She is a gorgeous 8 yr old red from a Georgia breeder that has fallen on hard times and needs to close her kennel. She is such a different personality from my other two.

I don't get why your coach wants you to do the phase 1 thing for so long. You should be able to do just one week like that with some enzymes and your body should be ready for phase2. Phase 2 is still ketogenic so, sorry love, you will still be losing for another 2 to 3 weeks. You should do phase 2 for the 2 weeks really to be better prepared for phase 3. Some say 1 week but, that is really the absolute minimum if you are rushing off the phases.

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Hey everyone. I thought I would join in here since I don't really feel I get paid any attention to on the other threads and it is frustrating! I am having a hard time. For some reason I am an extremely slow loser. Like Sherry, I am only five feet tall but I have much more to lose. My loss has slowed to only about a pound a week and I am getting very frustrated. When you still have 65 lbs to lose, a pound a week is maddening! Perhaps I could give you guys a big of background on what I eat and we can figure out how to boost my losses!

Breakfast is cereal. Lunch is my restricted (yes, I have a restricted daily, (maybe that is my problem but I was told by a nutritionist that it isn't good to go below 30 carbs per day or you run into problems). Afternoon snack is a RTD. Dinner is usually 6 oz of protein (chicken, turkey or lean burger). I stick to just a few veggies as I have gotten sick of most of them, I eat cucumbers, turnips and zucchini. Occasionally I will eat brocolli or spinach. I don't eat the lettuce that I am allowed to have during the day, perhaps that would help my losses. I drink 100 oz of water daily with the occasional coffee. That is about it. Here and there I will put some mustard on a burger or hot sauce in my turkey but I stay pretty strictly to this.

On that note, why are my losses sooooooooo slow? I am getting so discouraged that I just want to give up.
Hi there! I know you may be resolving your issue. I hope you don't mind my chiming in. I know 1 pound a week can be hard but, you are moving in the right direction. In the hope of getting things going again, I was looking at what you are eating and, based on your choices saw this. (based on not seeing an evening dessert snack)

Breakfast is Crispy cereal. calories 90 fat .5g carbs 5 fiber 0 pro 18g
Lunch is my restricted. cal 110-160 fat 2.5-7g carbs 8-17 fiber 0 pro 11 -20g
Afternoon snack is a RTD. cal 100 fat 1 carb 4 fiber 3 pro 15g
Dinner is usually 6 oz of protein avg. cal 300 fat 8g carb 0 fiber 0 protein 53g
a few veggies I eat: based on 1c or equivalents of 1cup

cucumbers ...... cal 16 fat 0 carb 3g fiber 1g pro 1g
turnips ............ cal 34 fat 0 carb 8g fiber 3g pro 1g
brocolli fleurette.. cal 20 fat 0 carb 4g fiber 0g pro 2g
brocolli whole..... cal 54 fat 0 carb 12g fiber 6g pro 4g
zucchini raw...... cal 14 fat 0 carb 4g fiber 1g pro 1g
zucchini cooked.. cal 12 fat 0 carb 3g fiber 0g pro 3g
spinach. cooked.. cal 12 fat 0 carb 1g fiber 1g pro 1g
spinach raw ..... cal 7 fat 0 carb 1g fiber 1g pro 1g

I don't eat the lettuce per cup minus (cal 8 fat 0g carb 2g fiber 1g pro 1g) and lots of necessary vitamins (IP Natura Multi is a supplement intended to complete the diet as prescribed.)

I drink 100 oz of water daily

SO, out of that, if I assume 15g carbs average for the restricted items, you are getting roughly :
veggies(cucumber, turnip, zucchini):
80cal 0fat 18g carbs, 6g fiber 4g protein

IP foods: using avg of 140 cal for restricted

330cal 6g fat 24g carb 3g fiber 49g protein

Meat:
avg. 300 cal 8g fat 0g carb 0g fiber 53g protein

Olive Oil:
1tsp 40 cal 5g fat 0g carb 0g fiber 0g protein

ROUGH TOTAL: 750cal 19g fat 50g carb 9g fiber 106g protein

total carbs 50g net carbs 41g

Anything above 40g total or 25 g net MAY take you out of ketosis. Anything near 60g will definitely get you out of ketosis unless you are a very physically active person. AND, the numbers above do not allow for hidden carbs used to sweeten drinks (splenda, truvia, purevia, etc), torani syrups, garlic used to cook, onion used to cook, any prepared item with a carb or trace of carb (it will add up eventually).

Some people can only handle 30g of carbs TOTAL per day to continue losing especially if those carbs are coming from refined sources.

What I see is you may be getting too many carbs, not enough fiber, and POSSIBLY too much fat.

You are getting about 39% of your daily calories from fat. It should be closer to 25% and some people won't lose well with it over 30%. The rtd and the restricted are working together to provide the extra fat.
To lose most easily you need about 12-15g of fiber a day on this plan. By dropping the 4 to 6 cups of lettuce a day you are taking yourself right out of the proper range of fiber. Fiber helps offset the increase in fat by the way so, you are creating a synergy that makes the added fat a greater slow down.

Last the carbs are mostly from the restricted foods about 1/2 of them actually and those are more refined and include both starch and sugar which are higher glycemic index and glycemic load. If you are sensitive to carbs these will hit you hard and slow you down fast.

Anything under 1750 calories a day will cause you to lose at the weight and height you are. So, you are creating a 1000 calorie deficit. IF you are deeply in ketosis your body will take the equivalent (actually a little more) of those 1000 calories from your fat so, about 1.94 pounds of fat per week. Some fluid will disappear too.

My guess is you need to drop the restricted (cuts fat and carbs simultaneously), add the lettuce (as much as you can) and, broaden your variety of veggies.

Also, if you started to add light walking 3x a week to your plan it would cause you to burn about an extra 250 calories a day more. Or, another 1/2 pound.
I bet things start coming off more quickly if you will.

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Old 05-03-2011, 10:29 PM   #407  
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It's a dive by......can't stay, been cooking dinnersand making all the lunches for my brother and his kids for the last week. SIL is in Monument taking care of her dad. Would love to tell you what I've been cooking but I don't have the energy to do that white fonty thing, so I'll just say, it all looks totally YUMMY!

But I am having a issue. If this coach doesn't phase me off after tomorrow night, I may have to phase myself off. I am WAY to thin. Size 4's are falling off and I told him there was no way that I'm going into a 2. Don't ya think having cooked protein for one week has start the stabilization process. If I go one more week on a real phase 1 (not bootcamp) I am gonna blow away in the wind. Honestly, I am irked to ****, here!
I don't understand why you can't have extra protein every day, like more than the alloted 8 oz. Ask Laura and see what she says, or Juiceman. We don't want you to blow away, and if you are concerned, you should try something different.
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Wow Carla!!!!

Have seen you in forever!!!! Love the new pic! Whatcha been up too?
I know many have missed ya, including me!

I'm not sure what my coach is thinking. I think he's concerned that since I haven't had cooked protein in 6 weeks that phase 2 will be to much to fast for my body. Tomorrow night is WI and I have been eating not drinking protein for one week. ****, I look at it this way, if I do start gaining a bit of weight, it wouldn't be a bad thing and if it is a bad thing for me, I'd go right back on phase 1, no bootcamp. I will talk to him and see what he has to say about this.
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Speaking of protein, I guess it's time for my snack...

Ohhh what to have, what to have? lol. Hmmmm, I'm thinking
Crispy cereal with cinnamon... ohhh YUM!
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Wow Carla!!!!

Have seen you in forever!!!! Love the new pic! Whatcha been up too?
I know many have missed ya, including me!

I'm not sure what my coach is thinking. I think he's concerned that since I haven't had cooked protein in 6 weeks that phase 2 will be to much to fast for my body. Tomorrow night is WI and I have been eating not drinking protein for one week. ****, I look at it this way, if I do start gaining a bit of weight, it wouldn't be a bad thing and if it is a bad thing for me, I'd go right back on phase 1, no bootcamp. I will talk to him and see what he has to say about this.
I've mostly been taking care of my family. Circumstance became a bit bad for my grandmother and she passed away a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there are so many things to still do to "tie things up".

Also, my strange live in relationship with Ex-BF ended; He finally moved out of my house. So, that brought some relief.

I have been helping current beau with the business we have been working on. It's been fun!

I have also been doing more work with poodle rescue. Lots of good dogs have been turned in late. We have probably 10 standard poodles right now looking for homes.

I would think with some essential enzymes you could start adding more real food next week. I would start with something easy to digest like egg whites or chicken.

How is the case you were working on? I know it was going to trial.
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Carla, I'm so sorry to hear about your Grammy It's also hard anyway and then when you have to dead with lose ends it makes it even worse! But really happy to hear the guy is finally gone and you have a new beau ♥

It's very cool your helping out with the Poodle Rescue! How awesome! Smooch them all for me, each and everyone of them! I love them, love them, love them!

Ohhh yea, finally after 3 dang years jury selection will start May 9th and opening statements start I think the May 17th. The defense is doing anything in their power to keep the evidence out of the courtroom, but it's not working out so good for them... *tee hee* Caylee will get her justice! That's all the matters and that witch will rot!

I will talk to my coach about those enzymes. It's just time to phase off. Tho I do plan on using my product in my day to day life. Rondar has turned me on to several other products that I really like, so that's been fun!
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It's a dive by......can't stay, been cooking dinnersand making all the lunches for my brother and his kids for the last week. SIL is in Monument taking care of her dad. Would love to tell you what I've been cooking but I don't have the energy to do that white fonty thing, so I'll just say, it all looks totally YUMMY!

But I am having a issue. If this coach doesn't phase me off after tomorrow night, I may have to phase myself off. I am WAY to thin. Size 4's are falling off and I told him there was no way that I'm going into a 2. Don't ya think having cooked protein for one week has start the stabilization process. If I go one more week on a real phase 1 (not bootcamp) I am gonna blow away in the wind. Honestly, I am irked to ****, here!
sherry- do i need to give you a good shakin? it doesn't sound like what i know of you that you'd go against what you feel is right, regardless of what your coach says...

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I'm not sure if this is all in my head, but when I eat asparagus I'm down the next day. Crazy? Just an observation. But I hope I never get sick of asparagus like I am of broccoli.
mama- asparagus grows wild on the ditch banks here... can't wait for a little more sun and go hunting! yumm!

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I've mostly been taking care of my family. Circumstance became a bit bad for my grandmother and she passed away a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, there are so many things to still do to "tie things up".

Also, my strange live in relationship with Ex-BF ended; He finally moved out of my house. So, that brought some relief.

I have been helping current beau with the business we have been working on. It's been fun!

I have also been doing more work with poodle rescue. Lots of good dogs have been turned in late. We have probably 10 standard poodles right now looking for homes.

I would think with some essential enzymes you could start adding more real food next week. I would start with something easy to digest like egg whites or chicken.

How is the case you were working on? I know it was going to trial.
carla- poodle me! - just don't let dh in on it or there'll be another death on the boards..

man o man, i'm about miserable today, TOM finally came, (praises!) but the big C is killin me! i finally got back OP but not quite all my veggies (i know, i know!) and the scale started moving, but everything else forgot to... ughh. would you all say avoid the fiber supplements right now as to not compound the problem and just use a laxative? i added vit c, colace and water. i'm considering mag citrate, sea salt in water or something... suggestions please!
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Well I've had my cereal so I guess it's bed time for me.

Carla, I hope you pop in more when you have time. This
blog just isn't the same without ya. Hoping Svelting the welding
carmel nut bar lady pops in someday too. lol.

Big to ya!!!!
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Hi Carla - you mentioned trying to get the fiber content of 12-15 grams a day. Besides your lettuce, which has about 1 gram a cup, do you have any suggestions on the best vegetables with high fiber to lower carb content? I seem to find the veggies with higher fiber also has higher carbs.
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Rondar!!!!! Yea! your on... of course you come on just about the
time I'm about to wonder to bed.

Whatever you decide to take for the big C, make sure it isn't calm juice,
ok? LOL. Glad to hear the scale is moving...

I know, I need a good shaking! But ****, what do I know? He's the coach,
and has always been a great one for me. Maybe he's right, I'll start gaining
weight without my body getting use to cooked protein again. Guess I will
find out tomorrow night!

to ya Rondar and big teeth :-* to Jace, the handsome boy!
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So I talked with my coach and I'm thinking of starting the process of phasing off. I don't feel like I am really at my 'goal', but I'm wondering if I should get on with life for a while, see what I've learned and then figure out if I want to get back on Phase 1 to get a little smaller.
Hey Lucky,

To answer your question, a couple questions back to you:
Are you happy with your weight now? Have you gotten out of this process what you hoped you would? If you stop now, will you feel like the process was successful, and you achieved what you set out to do? Most importantly, are your numbers in a healthy range now?

If you can say yes to all of those, then by all means, start phasing off. Don't set your goals based on someone else's.

If not, I would encourage you to stick it out. You have the will and the resolve and the tools to do it now. Do you want to take a chance on any of those things not lining up quite right again?
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But I am having a issue. If this coach doesn't phase me off after tomorrow night, I may have to phase myself off. I am WAY to thin. Size 4's are falling off and I told him there was no way that I'm going into a 2. Don't ya think having cooked protein for one week has start the stabilization process. If I go one more week on a real phase 1 (not bootcamp) I am gonna blow away in the wind. Honestly, I am irked to ****, here!
Uhm, what? Your coach won't let you go into Phase 2? That makes no sense to me. Especially if you're already so thin, and YOU feel like you're too thin?

This seems really wrong to me. If you think you've lost enough weight, you should start phasing off.
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Carla!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I can't thank you enough for all of that individualized information you gave me. You truly are amazing. I have added in lettuce and I am dropping the restricteds after this week so I will hope for better results! I am trying to vary my veggies more now. I have added asparagus, peppers, cauliflower, celery and cabbage (as well as my addition of two salads a day!). The scale seems to be moving a bit more now! As of this morning, I have lost 2.5 lbs rather than my 1 lb.. and I haven't even gone to me weigh in yet!

From the bottom of my heart, I thank you all for helping me through this. Being heavy is such a difficult thing to endure for such a long period of time, I was wondering if I would ever be able to shake off the funk that I was in! You guys have really made me felt better and I truly appreciate it.
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Rondar!!!!! Yea! your on... of course you come on just about the
time I'm about to wonder to bed.

Whatever you decide to take for the big C, make sure it isn't calm juice,
ok? LOL. Glad to hear the scale is moving...

I know, I need a good shaking! But ****, what do I know? He's the coach,
and has always been a great one for me. Maybe he's right, I'll start gaining
weight without my body getting use to cooked protein again. Guess I will
find out tomorrow night!

to ya Rondar and big teeth :-* to Jace, the handsome boy!
ha ha ha... no "calm" juice for me tonight! fyi to ya'll- "calm" juice at my house consists of vodka! shhhhhh, it's secret code!
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