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Old 07-28-2011, 05:59 PM   #421  
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Has anyone else had problems with getting a sugar rush from very small amounts of sugar since starting IF?

I had a cookie today that I'd made today using rolled oats. And from this one cookie I got a horrible sugar rush related headache and began to feel lethargic. I used to get this feeling only after a binge session.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:44 AM   #422  
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The Mane, I am not sure. At first, just eating after I broke my fast, made me lethargic. Now, I am getting more energy.

John P, so you are saying that if I do weight training before I break my fast, my body will burn fat for energy--not only that it will burn hard to reach fat? But if I do weight training outside of my fast, then it will be carbs and fat that is easy to burn off anyways?

still doing IF. Since my days are so abnormal, my eating window is 5-12am. I usually don't go to bed until 2 or 3 am. I am also bfing so I get very choppy sleep. And usually sleep in til about 2pm with the baby.

I would love to move my window to an earlier time. but I guess that is not going to happen for now.
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Has anyone else had problems with getting a sugar rush from very small amounts of sugar since starting IF?
Assuming by sugar rush you mean you have a burst of energy - than this means the fasting has increased your insulin sensativity. This is a good and normal thing. If you mean you're crashing after a brief buzz - I would presume your body is just adjusting to your new feeding pattern and will adapt to better control blood sugar levels.

Insulin sensative people tend to feel a rush of energy from eating carbs while insulin resistant people tend to feel lethargic after eating carbs.

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John P, so you are saying that if I do weight training before I break my fast, my body will burn fat for energy--not only that it will burn hard to reach fat? But if I do weight training outside of my fast, then it will be carbs and fat that is easy to burn off anyways?
Yes but it really doesn't matter for most people because for most people they have a lot of easy to burn fat. Also, it is also very possible you will have a better workout after eating because the carbs are better fuel for a workout than fat and therefore you'll burn more calories and thus burn more fat total for the day.

Just keep in mind that calories rule.

While I do enjoy theory what I have learned is that worrying about what is optimal is for the most part a waste of time.

Given that it is now much earlier I would have answered a little differently.

I would have said "It really doesn't make much (if any) difference for the majority of people so you should just do whatever is more convienient for you"
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ah, but if i had to lose the last 10 lbs, then weight lifting before I broke the fast, would be optimal.

I am asking you, cuz my legs shape up like nobody's business, but my abdomen is more stubborn.

i guess I need to get to the point where sweets give me a sugar rush. not there yet. I'm pretty resistant.
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ah, but if i had to lose the last 10 lbs, then weight lifting before I broke the fast, would be optimal.

I am asking you, cuz my legs shape up like nobody's business, but my abdomen is more stubborn.

i guess I need to get to the point where sweets give me a sugar rush. not there yet. I'm pretty resistant.
Yes - you got it right. When you're getting down to those vanity pounds it makes a difference. Regarding your abdomen ... I know how you feel. I am looking like a famine victim yet I am only sportly a two pack.

You may never get a rush from sugar. While it is true that the leaner you get the more your insulin sensativity increases there are people who just genetically are predisposed to be insulin resistant. Fasting also increases insulin sensativity as does lifting weights. So - lose a few more pounds - fast for 24 hours - lift some weights - and THEN eat some candy. See if you feel it.
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:09 PM   #426  
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So I was wondering how long your guys' windows are, and if you ever break them. For example, what if you're out all day, and it's inevitable that whatever you're doing eats up much of, if not all of, your window? Just curious to see how people deal with those sorts of things. Also, do you guys prefer to break your fast when you wake up, or start fasting when you go to sleep, or something else entirely?

I'm also kind of gathering info to try to figure out what I want to do when I start the new school year. I'm a university student on a meal plan (ick), and right now, I eat between 12 PM and 4 PM every day, but that's obviously not going to work at school, when I'm in class during those times. It's also likely that I'll expand my window to include both breakfast and dinner... I don't know yet.

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I break my window on a regular basis. Usually by an hour or less but the point is it doesn't matter.

In all dieting - there is nothing magic - there is nothing sacred.

It always comes down to calories.

IF is just a way to make dieting easier - any additional health benefits would just be icing on the cake.
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I am new to IF, I've never done it before or even heard of it. From what I understand it's eating between certain time periods and not eat for the rest of the day.. Does it matter what food you eat and do you still have to be at your calorie level? I calculated and I'm suppose to eat around 1300-1400 cals a day but if I do IF I don't think I could stuff myself within a time window.. Also would my body store the food as fat? If it thinks I'm not eating regularly?
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I am new to IF, I've never done it before or even heard of it. From what I understand it's eating between certain time periods and not eat for the rest of the day.. Does it matter what food you eat and do you still have to be at your calorie level? I calculated and I'm suppose to eat around 1300-1400 cals a day but if I do IF I don't think I could stuff myself within a time window.. Also would my body store the food as fat? If it thinks I'm not eating regularly?
You need a basic primer - so here you go.

Protein matters. If you don't get sufficient protein you will lose muscle mass. Get at least the RDA guidelines. I'd persoanlly suggest you double them.

Calories matter. Any time you eat a mixed meal your body stores fat. BUT - when your meal is digested your body starts using fat for fuel. What matters is ingesting fewer calories than your body needs and you will have a net loss of fat.

Your body is well suited to eat intermiitently. Think about the 100,000 + years of evolution and how scarce food was.
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has anyone else heard of the carbohydrate addict's diet? I read the book and it made sense especially about keeping blood sugar stable. I tried to eat like that, but I still craved sweets. When I fast, I can ignore all food, except for my little bit of tea, and I don't have to worry about the RULES. The CAD promotes an eating window of basically whatever you want within reason, and then has you go back to eating no stimulating foods.
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Hi Jendiet,

I tried the CAD, but the reward meal always did me in. I didn't balance it as I should.

I like IF, it seems I dont' even think of food until it is time to eat and when I am at work I can push my window back further. I am currently reading the Warrior diet. It does say you can have yogurt or green veggies before you have your big meal in the evening.

I have lost 5lbs gained back 3, but I did have a visit from TOM.

I do have a quick question in the morning I have tea and put two drops -- very little drops of honey in it, is this okay? I figure this was better than sugar. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

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johnP said anything less than 50 calories did not break the fast, I am not sure though. I do it, and I fast until 5 pm usually.
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johnP said anything less than 50 calories did not break the fast, I am not sure though. I do it, and I fast until 5 pm usually.
To be clear JohnP said that Martin (who runs leangains.com) says that under 50 calories does not lower the benefits of fasting but to play it safe JohnP stays under 25 calories.

Just to be clear.
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Thanks. That helps. Now the Warrior diet makes sense. I couldn't see eating and still be considered fasting. The warrior diet doesn't believe in just water fasting until breaking your fast.
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I hear alot about the warrior diet, but don't know much about it.

Thanks for clearing that up JohnP.
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