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Old 01-26-2005, 03:35 PM   #61  
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Unhappy Oh Woe Is Me....

Hey Lisa - CONGRATS ON THE ONE LB GONE FOREVER - keep up the good work. I commend you on the exercise - I have yet to repeat the one attempt I made earlier this week!

I try to keep a water bottle filled on my desk at all times - from the water cooler at work - have not tried a straw? wonder if it will make a difference??

Frannie - I am normally not a big chili eater - and don't even make it much at home - but since starting Core it seems like a good "food". I was just checking out the Stagg cans at the store and most are pretty high fat, except for the vegetarian one (like 0.8 grams of fat)...and all the ingredients looked core-friendly so I would certainly recommend this as an emergency pantry item for those times you don't feel like cooking and want something quick!

Now my sob story - for those of you who have been following you should know that dh and I are not happy campers and are having some issues. I am at the point where I feel we are "in crisis" and something needs to be done (e.g. shape up or ship out kind of thing). Recommended he go see his therapist which he did (to work on his own issues), but also felt we needed to work on the marriage and his treatment of my 2 kids (from a previous marriage and we have one together). If he was committed to stay in the marriage then some major work had to be done!

I have been trying to discuss this with him for a couple of days now - and today was opportune (was not feeling well this am due to headache and TOM so called in sick)....turns out yes he has been very unhappy - he realizes he has been bad to the kids, but the MAJOR REASON he has been so unhappy (are u ready for this!!) is BECAUSE OF MY WEIGHT! Yes indeedy the big fat reason is cuz I'm so fat!!! Yes there are other things that endear me to him, and of course we have borne a wonderful amazing child together (who we obviously don't want to traumatize) but his unhappiness which flows into other aspects of our lives (e.g. his nastiness to my kids) is cuz I'm fat and this affects his outlook, his demeanor and of course subsequent intimacy issues! Says the weight was always a "problem" for him even tho I weighed approx 160 when we married! (and yes I pointed out that 95% of people who lose weight tend to gain it back!)

So there is it ladies - and I'm glad I can come here to vent cuz I'm sure as **** not sharing this with too many others!! I told him that I found that to be very shallow of him, and almost guaranteed that the issues between him and my children would not change whether I weighed 140 or 200 lbs....but he does not agree! Of course I am very upset about this and can't stop crying but that won't help things! I almost want to lose this weight to show him how wrong he is....

He has agreed to continue seeing his therapist to work on issues stemming from his childhood and I have the name of a therapist who not only does marital/couples counselling but specializes in stepfamily issues!!! Will call her to see if we can get an appt! And he says he wants to stay in the marriage but his main reason I think is cuz if he doesn't he believes he will be out on the street (as he is unemployed now)..of course this would never happen as he has many friends and family for support and no one would allow that to occur!

So there you have it!!!

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Old 01-26-2005, 03:40 PM   #62  
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Mum, my 80 oz is just water. Sometimes I have decaf coffee in the morning (about 16 oz) and one decaf Pepsi at night (12 oz) or a hot decaf tea with skim and Splenda (10-12 oz). I just chug it down with my straw. I play games with myself. Like....ok you can't have lunch until you have consumed 32 oz of water. Or no dessert or snack if you haven't consumed 72 oz of water, etc. I couldn't drink half my body weight though.....I'd float away. That would be well over 125 ozs a day! Congratulations of your loss....you are OBVIOUSLY doing something right!

Cher, Frannie's right, you MUST try the crustless pumpkin pie. It's gotten me through Thanksgiving and Christmas. Let me know if you can't find the recipe. I also read about a good pumpkin custard. I'll see if I can find a link for you.

Hey Frannie, I watched the WW DVD while on the treadmill one day....Hubby thought that was a pretty funny picture and it looked pretty good. The Trainor had a nice voice and wasn't obnoxious. It might be too easy for you but it looked like it would be challenging for me. Had a "dancelike" quality to it. I may try it one of these days.
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Froufie, I am so sorry. He does sound very shallow. I guess the best we can say for him is that he was honest. I'm glad you guys are going to counseling. None of us should really be giving you advice, but my goodness I would hope that my husband would love me no matter what. You should lose the weight for yourself, not for him. You should do it for positive reasons, your health and for how you feel about yourself. No one can lose weight out of fear. Doesn't he feel happy and recognize that you are doing something for yourself by being back at WW and on Core. Couldn't he have given you some time? Sheeeessssh! Maybe he's just using your weight as an excuse because he's afraid to talk about the real reason?

Try to hang in there.....don't let him sabotage the wonderful progress you've made.
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Thanks Vickie - and you're right - I am planning to lose the weight for myself - especially to maintain my health as my genetic history is not that good and I could see myself going down that path if I did not do something about it!

My short term goal is to lose weight for July 8th (exactly six months from joining WW) as I will be flying to Florida to take party in my brother's surprise birthday party (bringing the whole family too!). I know there will be people there who have not seen me in several years and altho I know I won't have lost all the weight - at least I'll feel better about myself and look better too - was looking thru catalogues this afternoon at all the pretty spring/summer fashions and trying to decide what I would buy myself, in that much smaller size of course, to wear to the party!

So far no major binging or anything bad - I will stay focussed on my goals!

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Hey Mercee, good to hear from you. Sorry you missed your weigh in. I was wondering what was up. I wouldn't have gone out Saturday either! It was a nasty day here in Chicago. I'm sure this Saturday's weigh in will be great.

Cher, Here's a pumpkin pudding that sounds great to me. I haven't made it yet.

1-2-3 Pumpkin Pudding

1 can (15 oz) Libby pumpkin (not the pie mix)
2 boxes sugar-free, fat-free Jell-o instant vanilla pudding
3 cups skim milk
nutmeg, cinnamon, or pumpkin pie spice to taste.

Whip, mix, or user a blender to combine all ingredients. Either put entire batch in one bowl and chill or set up individual bowls and chill before serving.

Core (count 1 milk)

1/2 cup serving = 1 point on Flex Plan

Servings = approximately 8 to 10
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Here's the Crustless Pumpkin Pie so you don't have to look for it.
Crustless Pumpkin Pie
15 oz pumpkin (just under 2 cups)
1 can evaporated skim milk (12 oz)
3 egg whites
1/4 tsp salt
1 tsp cinnamon
1/4 tsp cloves
1/4 tsp ginger
1/2 cup brown sugar{or Splenda}
Combine all ingredients & beat until smooth. Pour into a 9" sprayed pie pan. Bake at 400F for 15 minutes and then at 325F for 45 minutes or until a knife inserted in center comes out clean.
Serves 8
1 pt per serving
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Good going, Froufie. At least YOU sound like your have your head on straight. You know that we'll all try to help you as much as we can. Just let us know what you need! Stay focused on the prize.
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Frannie, what time is your cut off for drinking on your weigh in night? I was drinking my water all the way up until the time I leave to weigh in. I saw your post (it might have been on the menu thread) where you said you have a cut off. My weigh in is at 5:00 p.m. on Thursdays.
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Damn it, Froufie, I have so much to say but don't want to step on any toes here, plus we already said I wouldn't give you advice!

But I'm going to say just this one thing. Why would he take it out on your kids? Is it THEIR fault that he's unhappy? Is it THEIR fault that you gained weight after you guys got married? And why would he transfer the blame for HIS problem to you?

And that's all I'm going to say.
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Thanks for the pumpkin tips. My kids might even like those!

Froufy, I'm sorry you're getting so little support at home. I am fortunate that my dh has never said a negative thing to me about my appearance, even when we both knew it could use some improvement.

I don't know what your husband's employment history is, but I do know that when mine was out of work for a while, it really affected his temperment. Not in quite the same ways, but he is usually a very optimistic person, and became quite the opposite for a while. We weren't going to be out on the streets either, but I think it's hard for people (especially men, maybe) to be unemployed. It feels like a big rejection and failure in a part of your life where you are supposed to be reliable. And another thing I think that men more often do is to project their feelings of failure onto others. I don't want to be an amateur analyst. I just know that when my husband got hired for a job he likes, he mellowed quite a bit.
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Thanks Vickie and Froufy!!!! I was pretty proud myself. So proud I went a little OP today........guess I better get back on if I want to keep seeing losses.

Froufy, sorry to hear about you and your DH, or is it just H now. Hopefully you guys will work things out; but I also have to agree that your weight is not the real issue. Maybe he'll find this out in therapy. What would Dr. Phil say?

Gotta run. Was on a field trip with my DS this afternoon, now have to take my DD to ballet and hiphop. Tomorrow night is jazz. Will check in later. Anyone want tot start an exercise thread??

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Anyone want to start an exercise thread??
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Sure, I will!

Now ... let me see ... exercise, exercise. I know I've heard that word before. Oh wait, I'll get the dictionary.
E-x-e-r ... okay, here it is.


Um, no thanks. That sounds HARD!!!
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Thanks to everyone for their support - I am having a real hard time with this! I agree w/you kathy - does not make sense to me - but his rationale is that he was so unhappy (due to my appearance?) that he tended to "react" to them negatively. I don't really get it either and can't wait to talk to a professional and hear what they have to say!

And he is not a very optimistic person to begin with - had a very bad childhood and can sometimes be depressed - of course the unemployment issues is a HUGE one for him - I agree on that. I think for men in general their identity is very much connected to what they do - and when they are out of work their self esteem can tumble. Of course this does not makes things better here! I just don't see how me being 140 lbs is going to change things? (unless I become so slim and gorgeous that I will be lured away by someone else? ha ha ha).

All I know is I've had enuf and by giving him kinda of an ultimatum, this was his response? I also feel that we should exhaust every avenue and try to do everything we can to save the marriage - and at that point we can decide how to proceed!

I think I am depressed??? How does one tell? I am feeling kinda lethargic, sad, dont' want to DO ANYTHING - everything seems overwhelming to me......and I feel like I have nothing to look forward to - just days upon days of sadness stretching before me!

...oh ya and I can't stand to see any normal looking woman...isn't that weird? Was watching tv w/him (oprah) and here is this audience of attractive slim gorgeous women - and there I sit comparing myself to them

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Oh Frouf, I'm sorry! This stinks, it really does. I agree with the others - he's probably very upset and depressed, and is projecting it on you because it's easier than dealing with HIS problems.

Vickie, I made the pizza casserole a.k.a. glop tonight. It was fantastic! 2 out of my 3 children ate it without prompting (WOW!) and the third ate it with a little help. It was really yummy, and that recipe makes a TON. I'll have lunches for the next 2 weeks now. I put in the turkey sausage, green peppers, garlic, and sweet onion - mmm.

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Wow, Froufie ... I'm so sorry your DH was so brutally insensitive. You are a much more forgiving soul than I am but I can appreciate that you want to make every effort to salvage your relationship with him for the sake of your child. I hope the sessions with the therapist will help. I know if I were in your shoes, I would be very much depressed. I'm sure some of your upset tummy troubles might be due to the anxiety and worries all this is causing you. I wish I could offer something profound but just know we're all thinking of you and hoping that things will work out whatever way is best for you and your kids.

Vickie and Frannie and all the rest of you who have Thursday WI's, I hope the scale will properly reflect all your hard work this week.

Welcome to the new folks from one who is pretty new herself!

Day 3 is down and while not perfect, I've been pleased with my overall eating choices. What's one of those sayings? I'm a work in progress!

Tomorrow is my birthday and I'm already planning to splurge on a piece of carrot cake ... my favorite sweet thing! Do you think I would be better to forego it? I like to think I can have the one piece without catapulting myself back into the junk food jungle but ... I know non-food rewards would be best but I REALLY want that piece of carrot cake!

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