[pattygirl63]

Carol Sue, I couldn't think of the word earlier when I wrote, but the lady who wrote th OP book said that instead of giving meds that don't work or make things worse, that doctors should be looking for ways to help us keep from falling by teaching us ways to keep our balance. I feel like that is what I do. I use the cane when I know or think i'm going to have to walk long distances. They also stress making sure that we keep the place where we live is safe and free from falling find exercises that strengthens our balance. I will check into exercising wiith weights, Tai Chi and Yoga for exercises that helps strengthen my bones and will help with balance.

I read a an article on Livestrong on eating low-acid diet. I wanted to know the acidic foods that cause inflammation and the ones that doesn't. However, the artiicle suggested that instead of not eating any acidic foods that you could run into health problems overdoing alkaline foods. The ph in our bodies needs to be balanced. I drank milk and also added green veggies... broccoli and Brussel sprouts to my meal and had potty issues. I only had one drink of ACV today but didn't add lemon although I did have lemon water before dinner. I read that drinking lemon/Acv combo drink detoxes a person so I may not be able to do that all the time because diarrhea is a side effect.

One diet says eat dairy and another says don't. So I will read from the books she mentioned in this book to see what they say as she doesn't really talk a lot about what you can and can't have to eat.

Your stuffed bell peppers and green beans sounds good. I need to eat something pretty soon to get my 2 meals in within 4 hrs, but not really hungry. Don't know whether to wait until hungry of just fix something and eat. I've had less than 800 calories so far.

[anie22]

Originally Posted by Wannabehealthy

Trish when DH fell and broke his hip he thought he was going to die because that’s what we always hear. He fell on cement and fell on his side and broke off the ball that goes into the hip socket. So it was not the actual hip that broke. As far as we know it healed ok but he won’t go for his checkup. I think when people die they do so from getting pneumonia from lying in bed. They made him get up and walk right away which was very hard but necessary.

I made stuffed peppers and green beans then fell asleep. So I didn’t eat until 6:30. It was good.

I know how you feel about walking outside with a walker. I cannot walk outside for fear of falling. I feel like the neighbors are watching me when I go out for the mail at the end of the driveway. I am ok walking on my treadmill holding the rail but I read an article that said you should not hold on because it’s not good for your body. They said to walk very slow to get used to not holding on. But I think it’s better to walk holding on than not walk at all. I don’t think they are taking into consideration that older people have balance problems. I also don’t like to walk up or down the front steps because the neighbors can see me. I do better if I come in through the garage and come up the cellar steps.

I totally agreed! One of my family members has a problem with walking and his doctor is really supportive and always tries to motivate him. He says that confidence is really important and recommends he use these walkers. I must say that it's really important to continue your walk in the morning and evening without any hesitation from neighbors or anyone. I think others can also feel your pain and the things through which you're suffering.

[pattygirl63]

I did my 2 meal day but meals were 5.5 hrs apart because I didn't get hungry. I just grabbed a snack of little cocktail sausages to take my pills. When I went to finish my tracking on MFP, I found that I only ate 942 calories and net carbs of 49 g. Too late to eat anything else. I didn't eat enough protein. I will share tomorrow what I learned about how to eat for bones. It is late so and I need to go to bed soon.

[Wannabehealthy]

Annie thank you for your input. I have one of those walkers that I bought at Goodwill. It was in good condition and a good low price so I wanted it in case I ever needed it. DH doesn’t want me to use it until I really need it because he says I will get used to it and need it all the time. Right now I agree and want to keep working at improving my walking.

Trish I didn’t log my food for yesterday so I don’t know my total calories yet. I only ate my breakfast and dinner so it should be low. Tell the scale that!!

[pattygirl63]

A quck Flyby as got to leave in a few minutes to go to doc appt. Weight this morning was late because I slept 8 hrs and got up later, but weight was down to 181.6. FBG down to 101. I did buy another kindle book on diet for reversing osteoporosis. It was pricey for kindle, but almost 5 stars. It is more work than I will put into it but will get a lot of good info on what to eat and prepare. But then we don't follow 100% any plan. I won't have to make many changes to the plan I'm on now. So that is good.
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Doc's appt went very well. DH A1c was 6.3 and mine was 4.7. He really wants me to take the Fosamax but said it is up to me. He agreed that dentists don't like it and he had just come back from a conference where a guy told him it wasn't as bad as the dentists think and the jaw thing is rare. I told him I suffered heart burn most of my life and have finally got it under control and really don't want to deal with it again. He said "Take it and if it gives you heart burn by all means don't take it". I was tempted to take it and see, but I have decided that I will see my new dentist and see what he says before trying it. I see him in December. I gues when it comes down to it that the risks of fracture is no different whether I take it or not, but I'm more concerned with the damage to jawbone which can be a terrible thing to go through. I don't know what it looks like, but I saw a man once who had to have part of his jawbone removed due to cancer. I guess I need to research and learn about that more too.

I'm still have protein spilling over into my urine and more than last year. So he is doubling my Lisinopril. I didn't think about it when there but he had put me on a lower dose because th 10 mg was too much. So we probably should have gone to 5 instead of 2.5. I asked him if it was from eating too much protein and he said no. I asked him if you could eat too much protein but he didn't know. I'm not sure he likes all my research that I do, but at the same time I think he respects it.

From what I have read concerning eating for osteoporosis so far, the little 45 pg book I read last night says eat 5 serving veggies, 3 servings fruits and 4 servings of whole grains. He does say protein is important and our bones need it to be sure not to stop eating. I was able to calculate that for my weight that I should eat about 66 g protein. I think that changes as we lose weight because the book showed a woman weighing 150 lbs needs 55 g. I remember Dr. Berger saying eat about 65 g protein a day.

I already eat some fruit and grains and I will probably just keep doing what I am doing. I might add a little more variety but not go overboard. Weight is starting to come off and I think getting the right osteoporosis friendly exercises and doing them is probably what I need to be doing.

[Wannabehealthy]

Trish, I hope your doctor appointment went well. It’s good that you are finding books that help with issues you are having. I get mostly free books but will pay for a book if it’s something I really want to read. Sometimes I’m afraid to pay for a book then find out it wasn’t as good as I thought it would be. I’m reading a romance novel right now. The girl in it has weight issues. Her boyfriend just proposed and I think the story is going to be her losing weight for the wedding.

I exercised today for 40 minutes. I could have gone longer but my knee started to hurt even though I had my knee brace on. I was on my vibration platform first and forgot to wear the knee brace so that might have caused it. I was going to walk on the treadmill but decided to try the elliptical first and was surprised I could do it. I’m embarrassed that I have all this equipment but haven’t been using it but no looking back to what I did wrong. Look forward to doing right. I used to exercise while I watched my soaps. I’m going to watch them daily so why not exercise rather than sitting in the recliner. I got away from it because the tv wasn’t working right but DH got a new antenna and now the picture is perfect. It is my plan to keep this up in the future.

[pattygirl63]

Carol Sue, Do like the vibration platform? Did you get it at Goodwill like your other equipment? I read that is good for building strong bones. It is mentioned in one of the books I read. I looked at them on Amazon, but it looked like something that I might fall off of it and break my neck. I want to start using my weights more. They say to work up to 3 sets of 12 of each exercise 2xs a week. I think the recommendation is to do 2DAW but to do different exercises so you work a variety of muscles etc. I probably need to read more on that to be sure. I have a yr and a half before I have another DEXA bone density test and I want it to be improved if not reversed.

Calories today were 1187 and net carbs of 101 g. Protein was 50 g which isn't high but at least in the range of what I should have at my normal weight. I ate this within less than 4 hr window. My exercise today was walking at doctor's office and at the local store. Today was McDs.

Carol Sue, I'm not sure I really wanted the osteo diet book I bought today but I had to pay for it on kindle and I wasn't going to pay $25 for a paperback book. If it had been hardback I would have paid it. I think this is a good diet plan and would work but I don't want to make Ezekiel bread and a lot other food from scratch. Like all the other books we have read, I will read take the best things that I can apply to my lifestyle and forget the rest.

I sure hope I can hold on to my 181.6 weight that I had this morning. I told DH that I am going to get to179 very soon. Then my mini goal will become 169.

[Wannabehealthy]

Trish, I just got the vibration plate recently and this is the second time using it. DH has been using one for about a year. He sits on a chair with his feet on it and says it helps his legs. He will not stand on it because he has a history of kidney stones. He wanted me to try his but I would not because I was afraid he would put it on high speed. After reading about it I decided to get one for my exercise room. I am also afraid of falling so I have it next to my treadmill so I can hold on. I use it on slow speed and it shuts off after 10 minutes. I was used to it after a minute or 2. I have a hard time believing it does so much just from shaking you. I don't know if its really helping DH since he is not standing on it but if he thinks it helps maybe it does. I was surprised that my blood sugar was only 120 after eating the hamburger for dinner but maybe exercising today helped lower it. It says online that the vibration platform will help lower blood sugar. I will let you know if it continues to be a positive experience.

Here is what I found online that says a vibration platform can be used by a person in a wheelchair, so I guess it is beneficial to DH to use it sitting.

Even customers who are in wheelchairs can benefit from Whole Body Vibration! There are different positions you can try with a Whole Body Vibration Machine to get different benefits. We’ve outlined a few of these below.

Circulation to Lower Extremities – While sitting in the wheelchair, move the wheelchair close to the vibration platform and place feet close together on the platform itself. Move your feet farther apart if you find this more comfortable. Utilize the vibration machine for 1-10 minutes on speeds that you find most comfortable. To work on improving movement of Lymph fluid in ankles, perform the above, but also gently massage your ankles in an upward motion with your hands. This will help relieve swollen ankles and help steer the lymph fluid toward the heart. Again, do this for 1-10 minutes a session.

Neck and Shoulder Massage – While sitting in the wheelchair, place feet on the vibration platform and place forearms on knees. This will provide circulation to the upper body and will also provide pain relief for the shoulder and neck.

[pattygirl63]

Thanks Carol Sue for the info on the machine. I don't know if you were able to see it or not but I wrote post about our doctor's visit before you wrote about your exercise. You can read about it there.

I also wanted to comment on what you wrote Annie about the walker. I have a very nice walker that I could use if I ever need it, but I really don't want to use it unless I really need it. Even today at the doc's office I decided not to use my cane because DH was with me and I could hold on to his arm. But then once I got more confident walking, I walked on my own without him. In fact I walked to the front desk to set up our next appointment while he stayed that nurses station waiting for the nurse to print out our test results. I am doing better but could do better. When I start doing some balancing exercises etc, I should help me get better.

[Wannabehealthy]

I am so mad at myself because I forgot to weigh before I ate. I will probably weigh anyway but keep in mind that I already ate. I had sunny side up eggs, bacon and 1 SL toast. Only the bread had carbs. I have decided the Metformin is causing the potty issues. Since my breakfast/brunch is very low carb I think I should not take it. I will only take it with dinner since that usually has carbs. Also, since I lost weight since I was first given the 850 mg I think it might be too high a dose now. I might try cutting it in half but I never think of that.

Your doctor appointment went well. Great A1c. I would not take Fosomax but the decision is yours. I would not want you to have a fracture because of my opinion.

I think I have protein spilling into my urine but the doctor doesn't say anything about it. I forgot what I read about it so I will read again. When I was in my late 20s I was told I had protein in my urine but nothing was done about it and I didn't even know what it meant. Back then I ate mostly chicken fish and veggies. Hardly any beef or pork but I did lean toward high protein.

By the way, the girl in the novel I'm reading is a size 14 but bought a size 8 wedding gown and has 9 months to fit into it. It is a romance/comedy.

[Wannabehealthy]

I made myself get on the scale even after brunch and weight was the same as yesterday. 186.2. I want it to go down but I need more veggies I think.

I got a shower and did my vibration. I want to see if blood sugar goes down. I only did it for 1 10 minute session which it recommends. Yesterday I did 2 sessions because we were trying to figure out how it works. I was concerned about it shaking my head too much but I read that jogging shakes your head more but the brain is protected from light blows so its ok as long as you don't get headaches, which I don't. I just hope this does something for me like strengthening my muscles and improving my balance.

[pattygirl63]

Carol Sue, I think Fosomax is not something that would keep me from having fractures or jaw problems. Although some doctors or may pharmaceutical companies are swearing it doesn't cause jaw problems, even the doctor said that they haven't been able to convince the dentists of it. Also I found it interesting that my doctor did admit that it is true that some oral surgeons will not perform surgery on women on that medicine. I find those 2 things good enough reasons not to take it. They say we don't live long after a bone break and that the medicine can give us a good quality of life longer, but the evidence Ive seen seems to show the opposite. Besides I'm not afraid of dying, I figure I will go when the Lord calls me Home and not one minute sooner.,

I loved the first statement in the Forward of this book which was written by a doctor. He said, "It sure would be nice if 'the experts' didnt't keep changing the truth about what's good for us and what isn't". I agree with that and it would be nice to know who "they" are too because there is so much research out there, but my SC doctor told me to always look to see who paid for the research. If a name brand company/s who sell that product paid for it then it will usually lean the way they want it to go. I heard people say on a talk show last night say they don't even trust anything people say about any research any more.

We watched Dr. Berry's video Reverse Bone Loss and he I thought it was interesting to learn that when astronants come back from being in space for very long they have to build their bones back up because of being without gravity so long. I personally believe that if they lose so much bone density and build it back then we should be able to as well. DH said he couldn't discuss it with our doctor because he couldn't remember how Dr. Berry discribed how our bones rebuild themselves and what meds like Fosomax does.
He said that it is like having a brick home and wanting to build its density stronger. They pile a bunch of bricks in your living room and leave doing nothing else. Is there more density in the house, yes, but it do a thing to make your house stronger.

I guess you can see that I'm not giving up daily weighing. I'm on a downward move and I want to keep it going. It was 181.2 this morning down .4 lbs. FBG was 112 but I ate some caramel popcorn and it was the sugar. I did eat breakfast this morning. I ate 2 boiled eggs and 2 slices of bacon. I intended to eat a banana but forgot it after eating the eggs. I guess I was satisfied. I'm cooking the frozen sesame chicken today and DH and I will half a serving of brown rice like we always do when we get takeout. I will add enough sweet n sour for taste and heat some of it for DH to dip his chicken in. I usually don't eat the sauce at all. I usually just add soy sauce which is what I may do this time. I will keep it as it is at MFP because I had to add calories just to get to 1017 calories. If I don't eat the 3rd meal, I won't even have 800 calories today.

I'm going to talk to DH about that vigration machine. I may get one. Did you order yours from Amazon?
I found some weigh bearing exercises on line and I found out I was already doing some of them so I started back on them today and did away with some that weren't helping my bones and replaced them with some that are. I did the one set of 12 of each of them and will work up to the full 3 requirement sets as I get more comfortable with them. I read one place do them 2 days and another says 3 as they seem to be exercises that aren't to be done everyday but I haven't read why as of yet. I don't mind having to work at rebuilding my bones. I personally believe it is good to have a goal to work as we get older. It keeps our mind working and young.

Have a great day Dear Friend and Lurkers.

[Wannabehealthy]

Trish I got my vibration platform from Walmart.com. it is a Maxkare. I just looked for price and that one was the cheapest at the time. I can't really say I recommend getting one because I haven't had it long enough to say yay or nay. You would have to read about them and make your decision. I still don't understand how it does what they say it does. There sure are a lot of different ones on the market.

I woke up with a sore throat. Not severe, just mild. No other symptoms. I took Tylenol and it improved but it came back. Very mild right now. I hope I'm not getting Covid.

[pattygirl63]

Carol Sue, Sorry about the sore throat. I pray a good nights sleep will do away with it. I pray you never get covid. There was a couple checking at docs office yesterday who had been exposed to covid. He had some of the symptoms but not all and had come in to see his doctor. We weren't close to them so should be okay.

Thanks I will look up the vibration platform machine at Walmart and read up on them more.

I listened to Dr. Berg about having protein in urine test. My doctor said eating protein has nothing to do with it, but he is wrong. Dr. Berg says it means you are eating too much protein. He says eat 3 to 8 oz servings at each meal and that has to do with your size. So I think I will try to keep my protein at 65 g as he recommends at other places. I could tell from things my doc said that he hasn't clue about nutrition so it was no surprise since I heard they only get one class on it in medical school.

[Wannabehealthy]

Trish, back when I was young I know I was eating high protein but I know I'm not now. I don't eat anywhere near the protein I should be eating because DH is not big on protein. I tend to eat more like him because its easier. And I still have protein in my urine. I think eating too much protein could probably be one of the reasons but not the only one. I read about it online and there's a list of things that cause it. One is dehydration and I think that's my reason. I know I don't drink enough water plus potty issues cause dehydration. When I go to the hospital they always tell me I'm dehydrated and put me on IV saline. I don't drink a lot of water because I don't want go be going to the bathroom all the time. More water would help with my uric acid and gout too. Next time I go for bloodwork I will drink a lot of water the day before and in the morning to see if my results are better. Eating too much protein could be your reason.

I am down 1 lb to 185.2. I didn't feel like I lost but I forced myself to weigh.

I bought new ground beef so we will have hamburgers tonight. DH really only likes them with fresh ground meat, not frozen. I prefer them home made. You really don't know what they are putting in them and sometimes they don't even taste like meat. Ours are all meat. Also I don't like a lot of things on my hamburgers. Lettuce tomato and a touch of mayo, or else I like a touch of mustard without lettuce or tomato. When I order a hamburger out I have a long list of things I want them to leave off. I love cheese when I'm eating just chunks of cheese but I hate it with other foods. I used to like cheese burgers, omlets, etc, but now I can only eat cheese by itself. I'm strange.

My throat still hurts. Just one spot on the left side and only when I swollow. This is a puzzle.