Carol Sue, I ordered the kindle book since it is free reading. It might be something I can even share with DS since they eat a lot of takeout. I didn't look to see if they have it so it will read to you as that is the kind of books she likes. I prefer reading because my mind can wander when I'm listening to something and I miss things. I hope the book can help me balance our way of eating.

I too never worried about what or when I ate before I got married. I could go all day without eating and it never bothered me. Since dieting, I seem to have this feeling of being afraid I can't eat if I don't especialy when doing IF within a certain eating window. My weight was up to 184.8 this morning I'm sure it is because of the takeout. I am always so exhausted when we get home and I sleep a lot after we eat. I finally realized it is probably the takeout. I remember reading in the CAD books that just because they aren't supposed to use MSG they still use it and just call it something else. So I think that is why I feel the way I do. I just don't think it has to do with the walking etc because I am busy doing other things everyday at home and don't feel that way.

I did eat breakfast and decided to try to go back to breakfast and dinner and a 2MD within 5 hrs. However, I'm not going to be too concerned with macros. FBG was 101 which reminded me of why I do better with not eat in the evening even if it is within 8 hr eating window because of how it affects FBG. So eating window needs to be earlier in the day, not later. For some reason, I can't do OMAD any more either Carol Sue. It is strange to me that I did it automatically as a teen and mid twenties and even befoe I married DH, but just don't seem to be able to any more. I wonder if it is psyhological or habit from dieting? Oh well, it is what it is and I will do what I can. DH wants pizza today so I'm making our personal pizzas today for lunch so that will probably add another lb to my weight for a few days. I sure need this book you told me about. I think I'll go read some of it.

Have a nice day.

Trish that is exactly the reason why I don’t like watching videos. My mind wanders. Also they talk on and on about details when I just want them to get down to the nitty gritty. I never actually tried listening to a book. When I read, sometimes I have to go back and read things over so I understand.

I am finding that I can go longer before my first meal. I’m gradually increasing my fasting window. Eventually I want to vary it so it’s not the same every day. I don’t want my body to get used to any one pattern. DH is also delaying his first meal but not as long as mine. He will get there.

I started back to exercising today. 30 minutes of various things. That’s why I like having all the different things to do. A few minutes on each while watching tv. I’m sleeping better by having a broken Benadryl on my nightstand. If I wake up and can’t get back to sleep I take a half. If I wake up with pain I also have Tylenol on my nightstand. All with a bottle of water. Another thing I noticed. If I feel like I’m getting a cramp in my foot or calf I rub it with the Epsom salts cream I bought. I will have to see if I can buy more.

Well, I ended up eating 2 meals and a snack less than 1500 calories within 8 hrs. I'm enjoying the book because she reminds me so much of how I feel about things. She also says the same thing doc in SC said all diets work. The key is to find on that you can do and stick to.

Scale is up 1.2 to 188.2. I overate and had Chinese again. I didn’t use any soy sauce this time but didn’t matter. I feel that I am never going to get into the 170s. But I remember thinking I would never get and stay in Onederland. Then I thought I would never get and stay in the 180s. So it will come. Just not as fast as I want it. I should be happy for the weight I have lost and maintained.

I read another short book last night. This young woman was obese. Her mother was always trying to get her to eat healthy and exercise so she got annoyed and started avoiding her mother. Then one day she got a call that her mother was diagnosed with breast cancer. She went for treatment but lost the fight and passed away. The daughter then started to eat healthy and exercise. She successfully reached her goal but was disappointed with herself that she didn’t do it when her mother was there to see it. Bittersweet.

Carol Sue What a said story. It is a shame that the girl's relationship was never healed. However, it is good that she lost the weight.

I feel the same way you do about my weight and have to constantly remind myself of how far I've come and how long it has taken me but it has come and if I don't give up, it will work out. DH put our pictures on our pc screensaver and I've been seeing all these pictures of when I was thinner. One thing the No Veggies book said is really true about me. I never saw myself as thin even when I looked at those pictures. Now I look at them and see how I really looked, but I didn't feel it. I have an album of pics when the kids were growing up and I saw a picture in there one day of this lady and thought she looked good but I didn't know who she was. Because I remembered wearing that outfit, I was shocked to realize that was me. Like the girl who wrote this book, I want to feel the weight loss this time and learn to enjoy where I am as I lose so that when I get to goal I will not keep feeling that "fat thinking". I think that just might be the key to keeping the weight off.

Weight stayed the same today which is rare with pizza so that is good. Today I am eating more Intuitively. I'm going to go back and read some of my IE/Mindful eating books when I finish this veggies book. No real rules, just eat if hungry and eat only as much as I want and stop. I've done that before and going to do it again. I've got to change some of my "diet thoughts" to "lifestyle thoughts".

We can do this. Consistency is the key.

We had one of my favorite quick and easy meals today. I’ve been wanting it for a while but DH likes the way he fries potatoes so we have to do it when he wants to. It’s fried potatoes, ground meat and green beans together with mushroom soup poured over. DH made this up years ago. He rarely eats the green beans like today. They are my addition. They are low calorie and low carb. This is like Hamburger Helper without the box.

I tracked and it says I am at 800+ calories, 68 carbs and 11 fiber. I will adjust a couple things to get it up to 1000 calories so MFP will accept it. It’s hard for me to figure this meal. I have to enter each thing separate and estimate how much of each I had.

Our DGS wants to come to stay overnight on Thursday. There’s really not much for him to do here but he will bring his video games and DH will play on the computer with him. I hope the dog behaves. He probably doesn’t remember when he stayed over when he was little and then we used a baby gate to keep the dog away. John is almost 14 and too old for the baby gate. Maybe we can use the gate to keep Rusty in our room. Also, I don’t know what food to get in the house that he likes. They eat completely different than we do. I will have to ask his mother.

Trish, I always think I am thinner than I really am. I am shocked when I see pictures or see myself in the mirror and I look so big. When I look at old pictures from when I was thin I think I still look like that. Sometimes I buy a top and it looks like it will fit and when I get it home it’s entirely too tight. One time I was in a store and this lady was standing so close to me! I looked to see why she was so close and it was a mirror and it was my reflection! So I have a completely different view of my body.

Today the scale wiggled at 186.8 then stopped at 187.0 which tells me if I have a good day today I will be down to 186.something tomorrow. I’m down from 188.4 yesterday. I’ve been weighing later in the day and getting better numbers. I wonder why. Probably fluid.

I think I am going to cook my roast in the pressure cooker today. I like it better in the slow cooker but I don’t have time. I don’t want to wait til tomorrow.

I have an order coming from Amazon. It’s 2 inexpensive things I can do without. It was due on Saturday. Then I got a message that it was coming on Thursday. It did not come. I got a message that it was delayed and coming Friday or Saturday. It did not come. I got a message that it is lost and I can request a refund. I clicked on “get refund” and it said if it doesn’t come by Wednesday I can get a refund. This is being delivered by Amazon. I have always received my orders when they come by UPS or USPS. In the meantime, the charge is on my credit card. Of course! I know of some people who receive orders that don’t belong to them and people who get a message that their package has been delivered but not to their house. I did not get a message that it was delivered. It disappeared into thin air. I’m glad it’s not something I really need.

Carol Sue I had to chuckle when I read that about you seeing yourself in the mirror wondering why she was so close. I remember the first time I had the revelation that I was fat. I bought a skirt and when I got home and put it on, I couldn't even get it on me. I was probably 20 yrs old. It was a real shocker. I got on the diet rollercoaster after that. I'm not sure I've ever been much lower than 150 lbs sense. Each substantial weight loss was followed by gaining more weight each time I got to a stall.

Weight today was down .8 back to 184 but haven't been back down to 181 in over a month. So it looks like I will have a gain when I see my doctor.

I need to thank you again for the book no veggies because it has really helped me figure out how I can and should change some things so I can stay OP better. I realized that ike her, I don't want to do keto/low carb diet any more. The reason being is that each time you get off plan for even one meal on keto or low carb, you have ruined all you have accomplished during the time you were in ketosis etc so that now you have to start over at the next meal so you can get yourself back into keto/low carb mode.

I don't have to do that with calorie counting. Also I can do what some call cycle or shift calories from day to another so that your average calories over a week will be for example 1200 a day or whatever you choose your average to be for weight loss. This why WW worked for me, but I found counting calories easier. WW taught me portion control and so will calorie counting with no food off limits. The only foods that I actually limit althought never say I will never eat them is my trigger foods which I only buy (if I can) in small portions. So this is my best way to eat to lose weight and make it a lifestyle rather than a diet. I don't think I can think of this as a diet any more if I want to lose the weight and keep it off. So I will never be on a diet again. I'm just counting calories as a lifestyle.

Thanks again for the book. I hope you and the lurkers have a blessed Sunday.

Trish I am so glad this book is helping you. She chose counting calories because it was what worked for her. I agree that it works for you too because in the years that I’ve know you WW is the only thing that worked for you, and WW counting points is just another way of counting calories. I think it will be successful for you. For me, I count both calories and carbs. I am still diabetic and need to watch carbs. I’m not doing it for weight loss per se. If I keep my carbs down my blood sugar doesn’t spike. If blood sugar stays low I need less G. G raises insulin and insulin stores fat. You seem to have beat diabetes if you even had it in the first place.

In the book I like how she said going to fast food allows her to buy a single portion of what she likes, and she chose to give up the French fries and replace it with ice cream. It was within her calorie allotment. I used to get ice cream on the way to the casino. On those days I didn’t eat brunch but had the ice cream instead. Now I have decided to not have ice cream until I reach 180 lbs. It has become so easy for me to pass it up. I didn’t even want it the time DH got some. He got tired of waiting for me to get to 180!! It is also becoming easier for me to not eat before noon. In a way I’m actually not craving eggs like I used to. I am making lifestyle changes and I hope they stick.

My roast is in the pressure cooker. I looked up some recipes for shredded beef and most had a lot of ingredients I don’t want to use. I just want roast beef that has some flavor like DH gets in restaurants. I chunked the beef, seasoned and browned it and put it in with beef broth and onion. I hope it tastes good. I will make brown gravy from a gravy mix because DH does not like home made gravy. I set it for 59 minutes. If it’s not done by then I will cook it longer. This is trial and error til I learn what to do to get what I want. It has to be tender enough to shred with a fork.
He usually likes it on bread with French fries. I just tolerate French fries but will make them for him. I am such a good wife!
Before I started my first diet I went to visit my friend who just had a baby. We took pictures. When I saw the pictures I was appalled. I had gone from 124 to 149. I started eating less and exercising. I got down to 125 but fluctuated 10 lbs for 10 years until I met DH. After that it was up up up changing my eating to be like his. It has been a battle ever since. When I went from 124 to 149 it was because I was working and going out for lunch with friends. I rarely ate lunch before then. So it seems I can eat properly if I am on my own and not eating because other people are eating. Before I started working I think I didn’t eat until dinner. I just didn’t think about it.

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My roast turned out good. It shredded nicely and had good taste. DH loved if. We ate it on a slice of bread with gravy over it. I wasn’t crazy about the gravy. I will try a canned or jarred gravy next time but DH liking it made my day. I am just glad I learned how to make it the way he likes it.

I ended up with 987 calories 51 net carbs in a 5 hour window. I increased the amount of roast to bring it up to 1022 calories so MFP would accept it. The only reason I do that is because it registers in my Fitbit app. I have not been hungry at all today but also not stuffed. This is what I want and it feels like normal eating. It is controlled but eventually I hope it will just be natural for me to eat this way. My goal is no more compulsive overeating.

It seems to me that DH is eating less, too. He still eats earlier than I do but not a lot and hasn’t cooked for me for a few days. Today he made pancakes and it looked like he ate 2. That was around 10 am. He asked if I wanted some but didn’t push it. At noon I ate 1 pancake with 1 fried egg. The rest have sat out there on the plate. He tried feeding one to the birds and they wouldn’t eat it. This is working out fine. He eats what and when he wants and allows me to do the same. He was hungry again at 2. I told him to eat something but he decided to wait for the roast beef. Maybe that’s why he liked it because he was hungry. So other than some popcorn that is all he ate so far. It’s 6 pm so he might eat again tonight.

Carol Sue Your roast sounds good. Glad your DH loved it and he is doing better with letting you eat when you want etc.

I too have had a good day with my eating plan. My calories wer 1059 and although I'm not worrying about carbs per se, I don't want to go crazy with them either. The total was less than 100 g. I want to keep them and calories rather low but extremely. At least not at this time. I want to kind of go by the WW plan but count calories instead of points and I stayed within 7 hr eating window. I wanted to drink a protein shake but got busy and forgot. DH has an eye appt. with our new eye doctor so I copied the forms we will have to fill out so we have them ready to hand over to them when we get there. I also filled out mine too in order for them to send for my records from other eye doctor and have them when I go for my appt. in September.

Sounds like we both have had a very good day and hopefully on our way to a good start on our woe.

I guess the ACV is working. Today is day 8 and weight was 182.2 and FBG 96. This is wonderful. I was hungry after I had the ACV cocktail this morning but I don't want to eat a lot, However it will be at least 5:30 if not later before we will eat so I am having a slice of cheese toast. I think the ACV caused my bs to dip and I was feeling like I need something to settle it down. I hope this will be enough since we are having LJS today. That shouldn't be a problem because I will have at least 7 hrs between the toast and LJS so a mini fast within my eating window. Isn't that neat? That is how normal weight people eat.

I've decided that unless going out to eat, I usually know what our main our main meal is going to be so I will work around those calories to keep my calories in the range I want them for weight loss. Once I track those on MFP, then I know what I can have the rest of the day and work to stay within 8 hrs as much as I can, because I still don't want to eat just to fit the clock. I still want to learn to eat ONLY if hungry.

Busy day. Have a nice day everybody.

Must be a good scale day all around. I was 187 yesterday. Today I passed up 186, passed up 185 and dropped to 184.6. It can’t be right. I expect it to be up tomorrow. I don’t lose like that and didn’t do anything to deserve it.

unfortunately I’ve had all the carbs I should have for the day. We went to Bob Evans for breakfast then to Walmart and ALDIs. Then we stopped at the farmer to get some corn and I had an ear of corn for lunch. I have a couple hundred calories left but I’m at 50 carbs. I might not even get hungry again. I’m doing so well with this way of eating I don’t want to mess it up.

Carol Sue, I know exactly how you feel. But I was so excited to see that 182.2 I could have done the and I feel the same for you. I honestly believe we are on our way to the 170s sometime soon. I feel so empowered right now. I've done 15 minutes on the bike and did about 10 of my core exercises and that doesn't include a little bit of walking at the store when we have to go get DH meds. I believe we are on our way. I want to try to weigh once a week, but we know how that always turns out.

I feel good because I don't consider myself on a diet. I'm eating the way I plan to eat the rest of my life. I worked around the LJS meal and I had to stretch it but I will have end up with between 1000 to 1100 calories today and carbs staying under 100.

Trish, I don’t consider myself on a diet either. I pretty much eat what I want, just not as much as I used to, but I used to eat until I was stuffed. I really went over my plan today. We went out and I got a breakfast sandwich, similar to an Egg McMuffin. It was what I wanted and very satisfying but too many calories and carbs for my day. But I’m not on a diet and I will make it up tomorrow.

Carol Sue, that is what I love about eating this way. We can adjust our calories from day to day so we aren't really over eating.

We loved our new eye doctor. When I called to make the appointment the receptionist told me he had seen DH before, but I didn't remember it. It turns out that when DH had problems after his cataract surgery that he was the one who saw him in place of the surgeon because he was out that day. DH problem was so rare and they had decided that whoever cleaned things up before DH surgery left some of the stuff from previous persons surgery in the material so they had to really keep an eye on him for a while aftre. Thank God it cleared up. Any way, he has gone out on his own now from that office and we are very pleased with him.

We got the LJS fish on the way home and it was 7 hrs after my cheese toast for breakfast. I got busy later and I was so satisfied from supper that I didn't even have my 2nd cup of collagen coffee because it was just too late and I didn't want the calories. In fact, I had to fudge on the amount of corn that I had just to get the calories up to 1006 so MFP would accept it. Still don't know what we are doing tomorrow, but we will either eat out with DS and her DD or we will get takeout on the way home from stores.