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Old 11-27-2007, 05:19 PM   #1156  
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Gen have you had an ultrasound or anything else on your achilles? The tear might have gotten bigger, and you may need to treat it a bit differently. Mine still gives me grief from time to time, but is nowhere near as painful as it used to be.

Why is everyone struggling so much at the moment?

I don't believe that any of you want to gain weight, or to give up on yourselves.

Gen I might be doing well now, but until six weeks ago I went for 13 weeks without being able to shift a pound! That had nothing to do with a plateau, and everything to do with me not being able to get my head right. But through it all I was determined to NOT undo all the good work I had done.

I honestly believe that, in order to be successful with this, you have to make it a priority in your life. I set aside an hour a day - and whether I use that time to plan meals, exercise or just visualise myself at a healthy weight, I make that commitment to GIVE myself an hour every day.

If there's anything I can do to help or support you (and I mean everyone who is struggling), I'll do it. I want us all to win this one!

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Old 11-27-2007, 07:41 PM   #1157  
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Thanks Ani, that's lovely of you. I agree, it's getting the head right. Unfortunately, it's so easy to lose the right mindset!

I need to go to the gym - the physio said I needed time off work to rest my foot, but it's no better, so I may as well go back to work and back to gym. Once I'm exercising, it's much easier to eat well because I don't want to ruin my good work.

I think I'll feel better once my last assignment is done for uni. I got the last essay back and got 90%, so that was good Next one due in 10 days or so... exceedingly boring and stressing me out.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:37 AM   #1158  
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Once I'm exercising, it's much easier to eat well because I don't want to ruin my good work.
Is it possible that you've got this around the wrong way? I know - because I used to be like this - that it's easier to find motivation to eat well when you're exercising. In fact I used to believe I couldn't lose any weight if I didn't exercise. Then I fractured a vertebrae. And then I fractured a rib.

Consider this:

Even when we're engaged in a full-on exercise schedule, weight loss is 80% about what we consume, and 20% is exercise.

And this:

We can go a month without exercise, but we can't go a month without food.

So doesn't it make sense to change the way we think about stuff, and say: "Once I'm eating well it's much easier to exercise, because I don't want to ruin my good work."

I know it might seem like I'm playing semantics - but if you wait until you're able to exercise full-on, and then get back into healthy eating/calorie counting, doesn't that feed our "all or nothing" tendencies? And isn't that one of the cycles we need to break in order to achieve long-term good health?

Just a thought, and you're welcome to tell me to shut UP!

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Old 11-28-2007, 08:03 AM   #1159  
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All or nothing? Moi?

LOL.

Makes sense, but I might need you to repeat it daily for a few weeks until it sinks in
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:34 AM   #1160  
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just a quick one....
i was thinking.....
ani you are right in heaps of ways but i was thinking with regards to actually LOSING weight i think you do need to focus on it and almost have an all or nothing approach to it at least every so often HOWEVER staying the same weight and maintaining a healthy lifestyle needs to be a lifechoice and daily thing... it is late but does that make sense??

i am so all or nothing and it works i lose weight but i dont want to have to consiously think of it forever, i dont want to be doing meal plans forever or HAVING to exercise hardcore forever which is why i believe there is such a thing as a DIET and it is what you do when you want to lose weight... when you dont want to or need to that is everyday and it is the everyday bit that we all seem to blow

sorry if i didnt make sense i will go to bed now and look forward to weigh in tomorrow.... bit scared as tried to be good without going overboard if that makes sense...
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:42 PM   #1161  
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woohoo
i just cant believe it
85.9kg that is loss of 1.1kg
wowee
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:42 PM   #1162  
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Kel - that's fantastic! I'm excited for you

The old "all or nothing" debate is interesting. I raised it because I think it works sometimes, but at other times it actually inhibits people from losing weight. Especially at those times (and we all have them) when we can't get our heads in the right place.

Throughout winter, when I went for 13 weeks and lost nothing, I had to really fight to stop myself from putting the weight back on that I had lost. I was disheartened, I felt like giving up, and I wanted to turn to 'comfort food' to soothe myself, punish myself, and prove to myself that I really was a failure after all.

Instead of doing that I gritted my teeth and promised I wouldn't undo my good work. I understood that it was a dangerous time for my weight loss, and it was a point where I could have just 'quit' and gone back to the old me.

It became even harder when I couldn't exercise. And that's when I realised I had to let go of my "all or nothing" tendencies, and try something else.

Don't get me wrong. I count my calories every day, and I plan my day's meals every morning. But I no longer get stressed if I can't exercise, and I occasionally make a conscious choice to eat above my calorie allowance.

I firmly believe in setting goals, and in finding a way to reach them.

And I understand that what works for me may not work for someone else. But I like chatting about these things with the women in here, because I always learn something
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:32 PM   #1163  
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Kel - that's fantastic! I'm excited for you

The old "all or nothing" debate is interesting. I raised it because I think it works sometimes, but at other times it actually inhibits people from losing weight. Especially at those times (and we all have them) when we can't get our heads in the right place.
hey hey
now i am understanding more what you are saying
i know exactly what you mean.... ie..... all or nothing..... oops i didnt have 2L of water today so lets throw in the towel... its not worth trying for the rest of the day, lets start again tomorrow.
and we all know
tomorrow never comes
i get it completly!
all or nothing does work definately but only if you are strong enough to keep going with a little slip up.....
i was asking my hubby last night coz he is one of those never had a weight problem only eats when he is hungry, leaves things on his plate, can eat a packet of chips in THREE sittings and so if he ever wanted to LOSE weight he would have to concentrate on it and change something about his lifestyle...

baby crying gotta go
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:13 PM   #1164  
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Thats me. If I stuff up once during the day it's 'bugger it I will try again tomorrow. Meanwhile probably putting on a few hundred grams in the process. We have all been sick her. Bub on Monday, other half yesterday (threw up 2 hrs straight and had o go get needle to stop). I felt queezy yesterday and so did 7yr old. I have bad body aches and pains and migraines today, 7yr old throwing up. Man I don't think we have ever been like this. So to counter the bad feeling I went and bought a block of milky bar. I will share it though so I don't eat the lot. And me to share that is something.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:35 PM   #1165  
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Congrats Kel, that's awesome!! Hope that gives you the motivation you've been searching for!

I stepped on the scales this morning and it wasn't actually as bad as I thought, so we'll see what happens at weigh in this weekend.

Just saw your post Vonni - hope you all feel better!!

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:50 PM   #1166  
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Hi everyone



Just popping in to say that I'm back. Had a great time in the tropical north and wish I was still there. I went completely off my diet while I was away and will not be weighing in for a week or so to allow myself a chance to get back on track.

Haven't had a chance yet to read back over what's been happening with all of you over the past week so I'll just say hi and I hope everyone is doing ok.

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Old 11-29-2007, 01:14 AM   #1167  
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Hi everyone,

I've been back on plan since Sunday and I'm feeling fantastic! I have energy seeping out of my pores. Well I feel that way anyway...lol. My eyesight has cleared up enough so that I dont need my glasses again (thats a huge plus, I can wear my sunnies again). I've also lost some weight already too. I'm down to 92.6 as of this morning. I'll have to fix my ticker again. Considering that when I popped back in here a couple of weeks ago and was 94.8 I'm pretty happy with that. 2.2kg gone baby.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:50 AM   #1168  
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Welcome back Julia!

Well done Kathy, that's awesome!
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yippee kathy!! carrot carrot carrot!!!
welcome back julia so are you not weighing in monday? i reckon you should so you can see damage IF ANY so you can get your mind around what you ate and how it affected things??
vonni - i know exactly how you feel, kinda, when we were all sick we took it in turns kinda, not all at same time.... YES SHARE THE CHOC.... that is one way i stop from eating the whole lot of something i tell myself that i have to share it with benji or that half of it is benji's (then i make him eat it) so then it is not mine to eat... just a mind game that works for me...
i'm still on cloud nine from my by myself weightloss this week and am pumped to keep being 'good'
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Kel, you're right - avoiding the scale will not make any weight gain disappear so I will go to the gym tomorrow and assess the damage.

Having had a week of indulging in whatever I want I feel ready to get back on track and am actually quite excited about it. I think I'm finally starting to get that saying - nothing tastes as good as thin feels. If I eat something that is not so healthy but tastes great it keeps me satisfied for maybe 5 minutes but then makes me feel guilty for days. If I eat well and stay on track I feel proud of myself and my self esteem soars.

So back on track as of today. I'm back to recording my food in my nutrition diary and will continue to count points. I will go to the gym after work tomorrow afternoon and will weigh in. I will take mum's dog for a nice long walk on Sunday. I will get back into my gym programme starting from Monday.

I WILL DO THIS

As for my trip to Cairns, it was awesome. I wasn't allowed to try the scuba diving because of my medication and was really gutted about that as were the other 3 who couldn't dive for various reasons so they arranged a 5 minute helicopter flight over the reef for us. I've always wanted to go in a helicopter but have never had the chance so that was brilliant.

Hot air ballooning was awesome, really surreal to be up so high with just a basket around you. Whitewater rafting was so much fun and I'd definitely like to try that again. I caught up with my friends on the last day which was great. They took me shopping and I was stoked to buy a couple of tops which are both size 14. Yeehaa! Weather was brilliant and it's a beautiful place, I'll definitely be going back some time.

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