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Phoenix, good to see you posting, I've been wondering how you have been doing. What about putting some crystal light or something in your water bottles? I'm drinking 8 bottles of water a day, I line them up on my desk at work and at home so they are in my face and I don't forget, because otherwise I am a camel and wouldn't even think to get a drink. I am excited and hopeful for my weigh in on Saturday too, I'll report back! Take Care :hug: |
SuziQ and Iloveadam...... You know this is exactly the point of Alli...you dont want to have the treatment effects so you eat within your guidelines. You've read the books so you know it says that that is the way to avoid it. Honestly the more I get into this the more I feel like its not really a "low fat" plan because eating 19 grams of fat per meal is alot of fat for me. But, like my friend suggested perhaps that is lowfat compared to before. I almost feel like (even though the book says otherwise) that it would work better with lower carb because most of your fat you get is from proteins, the trick is to get the healthy proteins. I think about how much food I'd have to eat to get 19 grams of fat when I'm eating whole wheat pasta, chicken breast and mixed veggies as I do so often for lunch...theres just no way. I guess I'm rambling now. My point is dont be afraid! I'm finishing day 2, I didnt eat lowfat before I started and I've not had a single TE. Tonight for dinner I had steak (little bigger than a deck of cards), baked potato w/ butter buds and 2 TBSP real sour cream, corn on the cob with maybe 1/2 teas butter. I'd say I was pushing close to that 19 fat g. but no TE. I really feel like as long as you do what you are supposed to you'll be okay, and if you do get a TE...then you know what to avoid. Good luck to you both!!
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First few days on Alli
Hi everyone,
I started Alli on Monday. 7/9. On that first day, I ate a humongous plate of taco salad loaded with fatty beef, cheddar cheese, and sour cream! I haven't taken more than 2 pills a day, as at least one meal is low or no fat. Yesterday, I ate low/no fat breakfast and lunch, and then got a pannini sandwich from Safeway that was very greasy...omg. But every day, I stayed within about 1600 calories even though I was eating one meal with crazy amounts of fat. Today I had a repeat performance--dinner was 27 grams of fat--but I don't have the pills with me and didnt take any for that meal. Still, my daily total calories was 1600. I guess I wanted to see too if I would have treatment effects, and how bad they'd be. This alli launch coincided with TOM, which is always horrible for me, so it's hard to know how much was TOM and how much was TE. Over the last few days I had slight headaches, was super gassy and bloated, and shifted between constipated and loose bowels but no accidents. I was waiting for the greasy globs in the toilet and finally got them. Now I am very grossed out by the thought of them and it's kind of turning me off from wanting to take more pills. Instead of turning off the pills, though, I am trying to shift the gross feelings to be about not wanting to eat too much fat and having to find that in the toilet. So, I've obviously got some work to do on managing the fat content of my meals. Tomorrow I am going to be more mindful of the fat content of my foods, and try to stay in more reasonable ranges. |
Phoenix..I just got it...ALLI gators!!! Love it!! Its really great to see that things are all pulling together for you!! Thanks for being such an amazing support!
Deelightful...you are right, its so hard when you just love food! That is my problem, it never tastes bad to me even when I'm stuffed. I hear alot of people say...ugh it just doesnt even taste good anymore. I NEVER have that problem! I think Danielle said it those of us addicted to food have it much harder off. We'll get through it together!! bobbiegene...Scales are for fish!!! Pam...way to go on your 5.5 lb loss!!! That is awesome!! Keep up the great work! I'm really looking forward to not being hungry, I feel like today I was pretty hungry all day long. To get my water in I have a 3 liter jug I fill it at night before I go to bed so its nice and cold when I get up, and I make sure I drink it all before bed again. So far so good! Thingirl...I noticed you were going to Orlando in 3 weeks, how fun!! We went last summer about this same time and we absolutly roasted! So hot! But its worth it. Just remember that sunscreen! I wish we were going again this year! Off to bed all....Day 2 went great I just feel really hungry, tonight after my bike ride I had 2 slices of toast with sf strawberry jam. Not I'm just gonna go to bed before I decide to snack some more. "see" you in the morning!! ~melissa |
Battleax...you are right instead of stopping the pills to stop the TE, you should just cut down on the fat like it suggests. The book says for 1600 calories to only have 17 grams of fat per meal and a total of 54 for the whole day. It also says in the book not to load up on the fat in one meal to spread it over the whole day. My feeling is that the whole point of alli is to avoid those TE, thats when it really starts to work. Good luck to you! I hope you feel better!
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Wow this tread is really clicking along!! Sorry that I can't keep up!
Yesterday was my weight in for All. (Also my 3 week with Alli) I lost 2 lbs. So that makes it a total of 10 lbs lost. I hope never to find again!! I wasn't happy with the Alli Rewards when I lost my 1st week. Basically they will text you warm fuzzies! I was hoping for maybe a coupon for my next purchase of Alli or on some healthy food item. Not to have to pay money for them to text me. |
Just dropping in a line... Sounds like everyone is doing great with Alli! I am starting on Sunday, I joined with the website, and they suggested to start after eating the low fat for a few days, so I am trying to wait, "but I am ready to take them!" I am sorta nervous about TE, though, cause I do work with people and the thought is scary! DONT WANT THAT!!!
With working nights just unsure how the tummy will handle it, and I drink tons of coffee, trying to cut back, but very hard!!!! Phoenix32203, yea I do LOVE those 100 calorie pack snacks, ESPECIALLY the oreos. They are great with coffee!!!! Yea, I HAVE ISSUES> I bought decaff yesterday, trying to cut back on caffinine. Haven't tried it yet. I am trying to limit my diet pepsi to 3 cans a day.... WHICH IS SOOOOO HARD!!! I drank lipton diet green tea yesterday, I like those.... I am working on drinking water... TRYING>>> LOL... later my ALLI CATS, I must get to sleep!!! |
You guys, I have fallen off the wagon big time, and once again lost and feel hopeless. I had lost 5 pounds on alli, Im sure those are back. I just feel so addicted to food- junk. I was thinking about Overeaters anonymous or a binge support group, but I am just living meal to meal right now. Last night I went to the store and bought 3 mini twinkies, a big fudge popsicle, 2 large cookies and a real fruit popsicle. I could of kept going. I just see my stomach growing and bloating, and I dont know why this is so hard!
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I'm glad it's Friday. After being on vacation last week, this work week seemed long. But, I am happy to say that I have taken off the couple of pounds that I gained over vacation so now I will keep going in the right direction with every additional pound I lose. The Alli is working as it should and I've not had a single TE this week. My "official" weigh-in is on Monday morning so I'll continue that as it keeps me accountable over the weekend.
Everybody seems to be doing well for the most part. Keep up the good work and hopefully after next week, I can report another nice loss. DNR |
I didn't do so well this week, but a 1lb weight loss is a 1lb LOSS. I haven't had alli since Tuesday because my daughter moved my pills and can't remember where she put them! A couple of times I was tempted and said "no". A couple of times I was tempted and said "yes". At least I made it to the gym every day this week, and I will be back on alli by tomorrow - even if I have to buy a refill.
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Not good - gained
Got on the scale this morning and I gained all what I lost in the previous week. :( It's nobody's fault but my own. I reveiwed my diary and saw I was not getting enough protein and fat. I ate too much carbs and moved too little. I was on vacation and we ate out a lot. :cry:
But in a way, I think it's my TOM that's the culprit here. Even though I had a hysterectomy, I still have one ovary and I still go through all the symptoms - bloating, moodiness, soreness - hey, maybe that's the cause for the weight gain! But I still messed up with my eating and I'm going to do better. It's weird, don't have the parts but feel miserable. :( I'll do better next week with my choices and move more. I'm going to pretend this week never happened. Can I do that???:?: |
Way to go on those losses Mez and Stacey!! WOOOHOO!!! Keep up the great work girls!!
For those struggling or frustrated...do not give up!!! You can do this!! You deserve this! Have a fantastic Friday Alligators <<<stole that from Phoenix! LOL! ~melissa |
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Gosh, the days are just whizzing by, I can't believe it's Friday already! I was shocked to be at Target yesterday & all their back-to-school stuff is out. Only about a month and the kiddies are back to school around here. :dance: Ssshhhh, don't tell my kids I was dancing, okay? lol Umagurl, boy I sure know what you're going through. I have been diagnosed with binge-eating disorder and OCD (especially with food if you can believe that!) and I have been in your shoes many a time...or two..or 10. Hang in there sweetie! I would suggest that if you have insurance or the means financially to see someone that you can talk to. For me, my shrink really helped me with this, something I struggled with my entire life. Granted, its taken alot of work on my part, some days are alot harder than others and sometimes I blow it and do have a mini-binge-fest. BUT. I have been taught little tricks and tips with how to react to food, situations, etc..it just takes lots and lots of practice. And I can tell you that I haven't had a full blown binge in probably a year and that feels awesome. Don't give up, please don't feel discouraged, I know this is hard but you are worth it! By all means, keep posting with us here, we all want to encourage you and support you the best way we can! :hug: debalina, hang in there! TOM can be so mean. I'm with you, its here for me too and getting on the scale was not a good idea. It shows that I've gained almost 2 lbs but there is NO way I've eaten enough for it to be true. I still say your gain is TOM and I wouldn't sweat it toots! Keep on going and weigh when those symptoms have gone away for sure, I bet you will be pleasantly surprised!!! Melissa, I, like you am really questioning the fat intake here. You know me, I never write anything down but the last day I have been jotting and realizing I don't even come close to 19g of fat per meal. Seems like I would do ALOT better doing a low carb plan. Besides, seems like doing low fat (=lots of sugar) makes me hungrier all the time! :dizzy: I dunno yet, havent decided what to do. Of course I haven't the patience to actually sit down and calculate what a lc meal would consist of fat gram wise or anything! LOL Congatulations to all the losers this week!!! Keep up the great work ladies, it looks great on you! ;) To the girls struggling, just hang in there and keep on keeping on, we can do this! And for those thinking about starting Alli, I do hope you'll join us regularly if you decide to start, this is an awesome bunch of ladies with lots of support to give! We're going to see Harry Potter tonight....surrounded by all that yummy popcorn!!!!! :eek: I am going to make room in my menu today for it though, because I know myself and know I will "cheat" if I don't make allowances for it! The candy and the soda I don't care about, but something about that popcorn........ Well, I weighed today, but not so sure I believe it. TOM is here and I am big & bloaty all over. Scale says i gained 1.5 pounds. Not entirely convinced. Granted I have not followed a strict low fat plan for an entire week, but know that I have not gorged myself on enough junk to gain like that. Think I will wait til next week and see what happens. This way it will give me an entire full week on Alli, better results hopefully! :crossed: Ladies, have an awesome day and a fantastic weekend!! Work your plans and keep working hard! Hope to see you all around here! |
Sugar and Spice....Thank you! I also have OCD and have been using wellbutrin for the last little bit and did notice it did help a lot with bingeing, but not helping the extra food in general from entering my mouth. Im going to see my new boyfriend tonight, and I am fat. I know I get depressed when I eat junk and I feel more fat, and Im full from lunch right now, but I want cookies and I am going to get them....I do not have insurance unfortunately, and cannot do private therapy, Just too expensive. I will probably get the weekend over and get back on track monday - (I know - bad bad) I hae feeling like this.
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I see you and I have the same weekness...."movie theatre popcorn" it is SOOOO good. But I have to warn you and everyone else. Even if you do not take your alli pill prior to eating it is in your system!!! I didnt take any yesterday because I am rationing them through the weekend to last until my new shipment comes, I am down to 2 pills! Well I went to lunch yesterday and had onion rings! NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!!! Even though I hadnt taken any Alli since the night before, and havnt taken any since today I had MAJOR TE's for the FIRST TIME!!!!! I was walking out of my office (thankfully NO ONE was here) and passed a little gas, well I figured I better get to the restroom as that is where I was headed to begin with...OMG!!!!! MAJOR OIL SLICK!!! in the bowl and in my pants! I didnt lose any stool, but OIL!!!!! THANK GOD I had a pair of pants in my car from yesterday (I live like 10 miles from work) and I also work with all MEN! So I quick snuck out to my car and drove around the corner where there is no traffic/people/buildings ect and changed my pants! This could have been MAJORLY imbarassing, but it wasnt. But I can tell you this, I will NEVER EAT O rings or anything else like that again with or without the pills, just seeing that was enough to turn my stomach! **Sorry if this was TMI for anyone** |
Hi everyone, StillTryin is right... the TE's take a while to hit, I was hit today a good 36 hours after my litttle binge and remember, I didn't take any Alli yesteray or today because I was eating under 15 grams per meal, so my TE's today were from the pill I had with lunch 2 days ago.
Having said that, it was great to see the oil and know that my slip up would not screw up my progress (too much) To the binge eaters, I hear you - it's tough, but you have to find a way to get control. I've had 2 slip ups in 10 weeks, the other day and a few weeks ago with cashews. The only reason I have only had 2 slip ups is that I don't let myself get hungry. I have a great breakfast that I really enjoy, I have a snack later, I have a good, tasty lunch, I have another snack, I have a great dinner, I have another snack... and if I'm still feeling I need something - I have another snack. The other thing I think is important is most people go on a diet and start eating rabbit food or things they detest, things they wouldn't normally eat. I don't do that, I eat food that I really like and would have eaten normally of not on a diet, but I watch the portions and change how they are made a bit to lower the fat/calories. Don't deprive yourself, have a fat free cupcake, have some low fat chips or popcorn, ice cream, etc... just keep yourself satisfied so you don't lose control. If you are stuffed full, not hungry at all and you are still grazing for food and sabotaging yourself then it's time to get some help with that. Something is 'eating you' and you need to get some help & guidance asap so you can start making progress. Tomorrow is my weigh in, I am sure I have lost more, I'm really hopeful it's a good 5, 6 pounds +++ I'll let you guys know as soon as I do! |
StillTryin~ Oh My Gosh! I am sooooo scared to try this pills!!! These stories are scaring me!@!!! Thank God no one noticed, or was around!!
Yea I LOVE ONION RINGS!!!!, but haven't ate any in awhile. I start my pills on Sunday I THINK!!! I am not sure after reading these TE posts... I am scared, I haven't cheated, I ate good yesterday and today so far. I will go to work in a few, and yes that is where there is tempatation. I caught myself last night looking at a piece of chocolate, no one was around to see me eat it, BUT I resisted, IT WAS WAY HARD. There was a meeting with cookies and candies... I did good... but man was it hard!!! Anyhow, I have lost a couple pounds, I think that is just water weight. LATER ALLI-GATORS!! check in later!!! |
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Sugar & Spice Do not worry about the TE's, if you are within your range the majority of the time, you shouldnt have a problem. My little experience was completely MY fault, not the meds. I am kinda glad it happened, only because it reminds me that I CAN NOT eat like that!!!!! |
Hi Ladies - I read through all 27 pages of posts yesterday and was ready to purchase my starter pack today. I was at Target and it was way more expensive than Costco, AND I was nervous that someone I knew might see me. Crazy, I know. I will have to wait now until next week to get to Costco.
What a wonderful support group you've got going on here. I'm cheering all of you on and wishing you all great success! I'll pop in next week once I get started. Have a great weekend! |
Brightside, welcome and good luck! go get your Alli and to heck with anyone watching! Talk to you again soon.
sugarandspice, the TE is just some orange oil, it's not a horrible-end-of-the-world-life-altering-experience, it's like salad dressing or that oil on the top of hot pizza, really it's not that bad. :) Weird that it's coming out of your butt, but in the big scheme of things, it's not so bad! :dizzy: |
Me Too
I posted earlier after I got back from vacation about how I had a little problem too with the oil slicks that I had not had the previous 2 weeks. I was eating the right foods but it's very difficult when you eat in restaurants all week and don't know what the fat content is. You have to do the best you can. I always made it to the bathroom but had some spots on my underwear. This happened when I skipped the pills for 2 days so it's true that the TEs may not show up right away. So, believe me, the popcorn and onion rings would not be worth it for me to have to worry that a TE could happen when I'm least expecting it.
I guess I'm a 'tell it like it is person' but aren't we taking the Alli to make us accountable for what we eat and to lose the weight? If we keep eating things we know we shouldn't, aren't we just sabbotaging ourselves? Something to consider. It is very hard to resist and you might have to play little mind games with yourself in order to do just that. The saying "if you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got" rings true here. I got fat because I ate too much of the wrong foods my entire life and in order to make this a lifestyle change, I have to stop and do this correctly. That doesn't mean that you can NEVER eat something you love, but if you are like me, I'm an all or nothing person when it comes to food and I'm better off not even getting started on those trigger foods because once I get started, there's no stopping. I don't want to have to relose the same pounds I worked so hard to lose in the first place. I'm off my soap box now. Just some things to think about. DNR |
Our Walmart has knocked the price down a few bucks. the 49 dollar pack went down to 45.
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Hi all! I just bought the starter pack, but I don't plan to actually begin until next Wednesday because my hubby and I are going away for a few days. Trying to play it safe!! Anyway, if I go to the Alli site and register, does that mean that I can start it when I want or does that mean that I need to start it right when I register?
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Very Well said DNR, I myself get frustrated when I see people pushing the limits with any diet plan and then wondering why they arent losing. Its as if some people think they can keep doing what they are doing and still lose. There is a reason we gained weight...and its not that hard to figure out why. Changing that is the key to losing. yes its hard to let go, but what is the alternative?
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Good afternoon all! It's so good to hear that everyone is doing well and sticking with it - even if they slip. My official weigh in is tomorrow and I hope it's good! I just binged on watermelon this evening and now I'm stuffed. At least it won't cause a TE so if you are gonna binge, it may as well be watermelon! I just really needed something sweet and it did the trick. I'll probably skip anything else for supper.
I may have to put one of my cats on a diet along with me. The male cat is skinny, the female cat is rather rotund. She eats like a dog - if it's there it's snarfted down. The male cat is a nibbler, like cats should be. If I don't pick up his food, the female goes for it. I told her I'll have to add a ticker for her to my posts! Dumb cats, but they are my babies! Gotta do the laundry now. Keep up the good work! |
Today went well
Hi ladies,
I think it helped to write about my huge fat fests while taking Alli (but still eating 1600 total calories). I didn't take any pills yesterday because I forgot to bring them with me during the day. I had treatment effects yesterday, but today woke up in better shape and a desire to eat more appropriately. Today I ate well for what was available to me. A low-fat bk (no pill); a lunch with 17 grams of fat (took pill), and dinner had only about 9 grams of fat so I didn't take the pill. I would have eaten more fat with dinner, but I did the best I could with what I had. I feel great that my day went well and I didn't overdo it. Yay! |
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When we do have the TE's, isn't that kind of good because all that fat oily stuff is coming out and not staying in? To me it looks like that stuff they suck out of people during liposuction. |
TE's are your friend not your enemy. :)
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When you have the TE's, it should only be in very small amounts. If you are eating a low fat diet at each meal, you shouldn't really be having all that much. Having TE in your underwear, or huge oil spills in your toilet are signs that you are eating too much fat. It is good that the pill is taking out some of it, but remember that it only takes out abuot 25%. When you test the limits to see how much fat you eat, think about whatever you see in the toilet, that about 75% of it is still staying in your system.
It's good that it is coming out...but the pill isn't a green light to eat high fat/high calorie foods, simply because you don't absorb it all. You still need to commit to a low calorie diet, and reasonable fat percentages, and exercise, to lose weight. If you are eating a 500 calorie meal that contains 10 grams of fat, and ALLI takes away 25% of the fat you eat...here is the math: 1 fat gram=9 calories. 10 fat grams in the meal=90 calories from fat. 25% of the calories (in fat) that ALLI will take away in TE's= 22 1/2 That is 22 1/2 calories in a meal with 10 grams of fat. If you are eating in moderation and following the low calorie diet, then it is giving you a bit of an edge. You might not ingest an average of 75-100 calories a day in your diet-adding up to an extra pound or two a month than someone who is dieting and exercising without ALLI. However, it isn't a large enough deficit to allow you to eat high fat, high calorie foods-assuming that a lot of it goes out in TE's. It doesn't. If you continue to do it that way, you won't lose weight. |
I do have an occasional TE but not much. I have been doing very well eating low fat. In fact I am having trouble eating enough fat grams especially at breakfast and lunch.
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I struggle getting in the fat too emmak, never with breakfast but with lunch and dinner I range from 10-15 g. Honestly I think thats doing pretty darn good. No matter how you look at it the name of the game is calorie in vs. calorie out. Alli is keeping us looking at what we eat and watching those calories going in. To me the whole point is to avoid the TE, so far so good and I think I'm really doing great with my eating.
Little slow on the water today surprisingly considering how darn hot it is outside. I just had a great meal, I had lasagna and garlic toast and stayed right at about 15g of fat. Very tasty dinner, I dont feel deprived at all! ~melissa |
Hi ALLI-CATS (awww--that's cute!)
NOT a good day. Didn't stay within any limits--calories or fat (sigh). Looking forward to starting fresh tomorrow. I bought this new tea. It is diet white tea with clementine orange flavoring. My sister-in-law (who should be a model :)) clued me in. It is really good for you and tastes great. Good luck tomorrow Thingirl. Glad the te's have come and gone. I have my water bottles all lined up. Great idea--thanks! I'll let you know how I do with the drinking thing. Hi Umagirl--YOU CAN DO THIS!!!! Please don't give up. You deserve to be healthy. You deserve to have the confidence and gorgeous wardrobe that come with shedding this fat cocoon we are all wearing. You deserve to feel proud of yourself when you accomplish this task. It is huge--losing weight is hard, esp. when you are dealing with depression or other issues that throw you into a tailspin. Enlist whatever help you need to make this happen for you. Make a list of ways you can deal with the lows when they hit instead of eating. Clean out the cupboards and take away your permission to travel when you know it will turn into a junk food run.:no: Add things that you love to your diet so you don't have a chance to crave things. Don't allow yourself to get hungry. I know it is hard--I deal with the same issues too. But it is worth whatever effort or time you have to throw at it to make it happen. My mom says that when you make this change, you should give yourself the best of everything. Buy the best, crispiest apples, those expensive baked chips, 100 calorie packs (ok--I will stop beating that horse!), really good sliced turkey for beautiful sandwiches. Instead of thinking of how you are depriving yourself, start thinking of this as giving yourself anly the best fuel to run on everyday--good, clean, high-quality, delicious, fresh food. And hey, if you plan for it, cheesecake can be on the menu. So can chocolate, esp. dark--it's like taking medicine these days! Most of all, quit beating yourself up. Would you treat someone else so shabbily if they were having a bad day, calling them names, making them feel worse? No--you'd give them a hug and point out all the wonderful things there are about them. So here's a hug. :hug: You've lost a lot of weight already and it is just the beginning. You have friends here that will be with you every step of the way. Start fresh tomorrow and stop by to say hi. YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!! :carrot: Off the soap box. I feel like yelling TOWANDA today, like in Fried Green Tomatoes. :drill: We are losing this weight, darn it!!!!! Who's with me?!? (Gee, I wonder if the tea is decaffeinated?) Good luck, |
Towandaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!
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P.S. - Think you got the caffeinated tea... have a great day. My pills are now a book end and I havent taken them yet...never seems to be the right day.... TOM now, when that is done I think I will start... great day to all. May all your TE be little ones!!! - Suzyq
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Phoenix-
WHAT A GREAT POST, VERY SINSIBLE and everything you said is RIGHT ON!!!! I know when I fall off the wagon it is MY fault. I am going to try to use some of your ideas to help! BTW- I loved Cathy Bates in "Fried Green Tomotoes" That was such an inspiring movie "TOWANDA!!!!!" |
:D Wahoo! 2 more pounds lost! This is the lightest I've been since last year! It may be all in my head, but I think my pants are a little looser. Don't care if I'm imagining it, it's still making me feel great.
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Good Morning Alli-cats & gators
Phoenix, you are making me laugh here :D and from all the energy in your post, I'm thinking you have the caffeinated tea! My appointment is at 2pm, :dizzy: |
Good Luck with your weigh in today! We are all rooting for you!
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I'm with ya Phoenix!!!! Thingirl, I hope you have a huge weight loss!! Bobbigene...great job on the two pounds!:hug:
Thanks for the continued motivation everyone! |
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