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dcapulet 07-11-2007 02:21 PM

"One last share: My 11 year-old daughter let me know she is proud of me for doing such a good job and sticking with it. She's starting to check labels and trying to make healthier choices too. If I keep it up, history will not repeat itself with her and she'll never experience this struggle. I'm a better mom than I was 2 weeks ago. So I'm going to bed tonight with a warm and more determined heart.
Thanks again Alligators. You are a great buncha "Chicks" :grouphug:"


Phoneix - That's the mom I want to be. I don't want either of my children to know the pain I have felt. If Alli helped you do that, then it's already worth it to me.

Keep up the good work!

Hun.e.B 07-11-2007 02:46 PM

Slept in LATE today so I'm just getting rolling and havent called the hotline with my questions yet but wanted to comment on one thing. The nutritionist on the Alli board says you dont need to take your pill if your meal is less than 5 fat grams.

Great post Mez! and Aphil!

dont you just love how many times you hear "yeah but when you stop taking X or when you stop doing the X diet you'll gain it ALL back" well thats the case with EVERY diet! If you go back to eating and acting how you did when you were fat...guess what...you are gonna get fat again!

Katrina....prenatal vitamins have a higher content of Iron in them than regular vitamins and Iron is SO hard on your stomach my OB always told me to try taking them at night. But, funny you mention Flintstones, my dh doesnt take an adult multivitamin, they make him sick so he eats the kids vitamins right along with them LOL..hey whatever works I suppose.

Danielle...I'm sorry day 1 is getting off to a rough start! I decided to stay under the covers extra long today, might have had something to do with going to bed well after 3am though LOL! I hope you are feeling a little better..stupid AF!! Dont let her get you down though! Did you open that journal yet?

Virgo....you can do Alli with any weightloss plan you choose. Good luck!!

Stilltrying.... .6 of a lb is 9.6 ounces I believe. There are 16 oz. in a lb. Way to go on skipping that late snack!!

Debalina...you've got a great philosophy that i could grab onto. I dont like the idea of saying things are forbidden, just a choice not to have them...or like you a bit or 2 and then the craving is over. Appetite changes is what I'm looking forward to most!

kc...you definetly shouldnt weigh yourself everyday. Your body fluctuates all the time and that can just get too frustrating. The constipation could be why you arent losing. Have you tried getting some benefiber and adding it to a glass of water?

katallan....I'm just starting so I havent experienced having a hard time getting the fat but just an idea is to add the good fats, like some avacado or olives to a salad, a snack of some nuts, cooking with a little olive oil...things like that.

Bev...that is what I love about Alli...it makes you THINK about what you eat.

Thingirl....keep up the GREAT work!!!

whew...hard to keep up with everyone when you laze away half the day!! Time to get rolling though, have a great OP and TE free day everyone!!

~melissa

Steelslady 07-11-2007 02:55 PM

Hi folks,

I posted this recipe in the Calorie Counters message board, but figured some of my Alli amigos might be interested in this- it's 14 grams of fat for the actual pizza, before toppings. It is delicious and filling. Anyhow, here's the post I made of the recipe at the other board, in case someone is looking for a yummy pizza that is satisfying:

Here in New England, we're lucky to get some yummy pitas and wraps by a comany called Joseph's. Their Joseph's Flax, Oatbran, Whole Wheat Flour Lavash Bread is a staple in our diet- one sheet of it is 100 calories.

Last night, I decided to try and make pizza with it, as I was hunkering for it. This is what I used:

1 sheet Lavash bread- they are 10 inches by 9 inches- big pizza all for you :D
1/4 cup Prego Three Cheese Spaghetti sauce
1/2 cup Reduced Mozzarella cheese
2 cups of mushrooms, cooked in onion powder with a couple of sprays of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter spray

I baked it in a 375 degree oven for 8 minutes, and it was absolutely delicious and FILLING! All for 320 calories, just under my 400 calories that I allot myself for each meal. If you just have cheese pizza only, it's 285 calories per pizza.

Tonight, I am going to try it with a slice and a half of Oscar Mayer 98% Fat Free Smoke Ham and one pineapple ring, crushed for an additonal 15 calories more than the 2 cups of mushrooms! I love Hawaiin pizza, so I am looking forward to dinner tonight. That will total to 380 calories tonight, and I plan on having some sugar snap peas on the side for an additional veggie (I just love those snap peas raw- I could eat a whole bag of them in one sitting, if I let myself ).

Edited: my math stunk today- it's actually lower in calories than I originally posted- woohoo! :carrot:

debalina 07-11-2007 03:19 PM

Thank you
 
It took me a long time to come to terms with my weight. I used to get depressed and eat. Then eat because I was depressed about my weight. I've been on so many diets that deprived me from eating what I wanted and after a few weeks, I'd literally go crazy and eat until I gained everything back plus.

I read a book where you legalize all foods and eat what you want. I did that and it helped me, but I noticed I was gaining weight, so when I saw the TV ad advertising Alli, I knew I had to buy it and I didn't matter what it cost.

Heck, I've paid $100 for the pill that was supposed to replace the gastric bypass surgery :dizzy: and all the pills were loaded with fiber. Well, heck, I could have done that myself. I'm happy to report that I got a refund. That pill is no longer out there.

I was always searching for the "miracle pill" and never found it. I already knew that low fat and exercise were the way to go, so when I saw the ad, I knew Alli would give me that extra "reminder" not to eat too much fat. BUT I wasn't going to deprive myself of the sweets I love and nowadays, you can find so many items to satisfy a sweet tooth that are low in fat or have no fat. Yes, I do pay attention to the sugar and I think I've done pretty good so far. I've lost 12 pounds in 3-4 weeks. I know the weight loss will slow down some time, but I'm going to enjoy watching the scale go down. I haven't been 223 in a LOOOONG time.

My mini goal now it to get below 200 and I can do it with Alli! I know it's not a miracle pill - it's a side tool that's helping me keep on track and I'm willing to pay for alli forever - even when I'm maintaining. My clothes are looser and I'm looking forward to shopping for new pants on Friday.

We now have to wear kakie pants and a polo shirt for work. Ugh, and I'm in the office of an engineering firm. Oh well. At least I won't have to stress over what to wear for work. ;)

pjbeau 07-11-2007 03:20 PM

Hi everyone!!

Well, I went camping for five days with my family. I took my Alli every meal. The only time I had a semi-TE was when I ate about a cup of boiled peanuts on the first day. I wasn't even thinking, I know nuts are high in fat, but I had a major brain fart. It wasn't until after I had the extra oily slicks that I put it together and figured out what I had done. What a bonehead.

Anyways, I kept my fat intake down the rest of the time, but didn't do as well with the calories. On Monday when I weighed in, I had gained two pounds. Thankfully, it was temporary and as of this morning I was back down.

So, I'm calling the last week a wash and getting back on track. My goal for this week is to start exercising like I'm supposed to.

elmuyloco5 07-11-2007 04:46 PM

Mez:

Hmmmmm....guess they can't fully figure it out either! HA! Oh well. I'm gonna see if I can convince the store to take mine back, as it's still sealed, but if they don't I might hang onto it as a last ditch effort if I hit a plateau.

I wish all of you on it alot of luck and hope that it does work for you! Anything that helps you lose, I think is worth it! Good luck ladies!!!!

Ant Bee 07-11-2007 10:40 PM

Watch your salt intake, GFs!
 
Hi All. This is such an active board that it's hard to keep up ---> that's a good thing, though, because we're in this together and need this terrific support.

You know, I've been taking alli for 8 days and it's been good - .5 pound here, .5 there - but until I had a history of my meals through the myalli site, I didn't know I was eating WAY too much salt/retaining more water than the Bonneville Dam. Since finding this out, and greatly reducing my sodium, I've lost two pounds! Not a magic bullet, but I'm wondering if this bit o'information might help those having trouble losing weight on alli? I really recommend using their site.

Welcome, Danielle, and welcome back to civilization, Paula! I bet camping was fun. Good job, StillTryin and Shanee. Thank you, Elmuyloco5 - good luck 2U2! Mezmerize: MZE/Mindless Zombie Eating. Way too funny & way too true! Great show of willpower with the ABC chicken nugget. WTG! And thanks for the great info from the alli 800# reps. Thanks for the great recipe, Steelslady. 12 # in 3-4 weeks, Debbie? You're an inspiration! And the khaki pants/polo look can be a good look...for a cult. Just kidding ;) I'm just jealous because I'd like a standard dress code. I have actually 'called in fat' before to work because I couldn't find anything to wear.

-Bren

Steelslady 07-12-2007 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ant Bee (Post 1770802)
A cautionary tale: My gall bladder doctor said that it is common knowledge within their profession that meal replacement drinks CAUSE GALL STONES. I told her that was news to me and, oh, the other million people who drank them and got stones - I was PO'd! She said they don't know why, but Slim Fast and other drinks like that form stones - please be aware!

It really bothers me that this was 10 years ago, yet it still has not been told to the public. :?:

-Bren

Bren, a male friend of mine had to have his spleen removed because of Slim Fast. One day, we were talking about losing weight, and I was telling him I was going to try Slim Fast for the umpteenth time (I always gave up after the first day, lol), and he got upset and told me to forget about Slim Fast, and told me what happened to him. Ever since then, I've been very leary of any of those type of shakes.

Besides, for me, none of those shakes work. I am always hungry right after, or within a half of an hour after drinking one. Last time I tried one was three years ago, when I was thinking of getting the Lap Band surgery done. Good thing I tried doing them, it made me realize that I could not last on those things for meals.

Definitely stay away from Slim Fast! It is dangerous. I don't know why doctors don't tell folks this- then again, we don't need a prescription to buy it, so unless folks tell the doctors they're doing it, they may be unaware that their patients are using this dangerous method to lose weight.

sugarandspice 07-12-2007 02:18 AM

Hey Everyone!
I have been reading all of the posts on this new Alli diet plan. The posts have been helpful. I picked up the Alli pills at Walmart when they first came out, and put them back. I have tried all the diet pills over the counter and spent tons of money. (I know, you must diet and exercise) but sometimes, its hard to stick to things. Life gets busy. My issue is that I work 12 hours at night for a week, then I have a week off. My routine gets screwed up. I also have issues with meal planning, I eat whatever. I do good when its my work week, only bring fruits, and a lean cuisine. Then my week off its another story, (Or that time of the month) I have bad craving for sweets!!!and I over do it!!! Anyhow, point is I have to lose weight, I will be 32 next month. I am bigger than I have ever been,(except when pregnant) AND I AINT! Just wanted to put in my 2 cents and let everyone know I am enjoying the website. I am going to purchase Alli tommorrow! I joined 3 fat chicks site in Jan, you know, the resolution thing, but my heart wasn't in it! My heart is in it now. I am more determined than ever, even if the Alli thing doesn't work, I AM LOSING WEIGHT THIS TIME. Thanks, for reading!

aphil 07-12-2007 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmuyloco5 (Post 1770338)
Mez:

Hmmmmm....guess they can't fully figure it out either! HA! Oh well. I'm gonna see if I can convince the store to take mine back, as it's still sealed, but if they don't I might hang onto it as a last ditch effort if I hit a plateau.

I wish all of you on it alot of luck and hope that it does work for you! Anything that helps you lose, I think is worth it! Good luck ladies!!!!

You could also sell it on Ebay if the store won't take it back. It is selling very well there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ant Bee (Post 1770802)
I thought that the gall bladder issues were with people who've had theirs removed. Sometimes folks have problems with fat 'spills' when you eat too much fat and don't have the gall bladder to deal with it. This gives ya the runs (personal experience-yikes!). My doctor put me on a strict low-fat diet before the operation to prevent an attack, so I would hope that the low-fat diet part of using alli would help stave off the pain/problems, and that alli is only suppose to work within the intestines. Funny thing is, I was used to living with TEs even before taking alli because of my lack of GB - and now I'm not have ANY, um, special moments with my porcelain! [Sorry, TMI]

I wondered that, too, since I can only take a vitamin in the morning. Does it somehow prevent alli from working, or visa-versa? Anyone know 'bout that?

A cautionary tale: My gall bladder doctor said that it is common knowledge within their profession that meal replacement drinks CAUSE GALL STONES. I told her that was news to me and, oh, the other million people who drank them and got stones - I was PO'd! She said they don't know why, but Slim Fast and other drinks like that form stones - please be aware!

It really bothers me that this was 10 years ago, yet it still has not been told to the public. :?:

-Bren

Vitamins-
One of the reasons that they want you to take the vitamin at night, is because the Alli when it keeps you from digesting all of the fat that you eat, and you expel it-there are some nutrients that go along with it. They want you to take it at night, because that is when you are taking a "break" from the Alli. You are going to get more vitamin absorption during that time.

When I was pregnant, I could not take regular vitamins, or prenatal vitamins because they made me ill. The doctor had me take children's vitamins, like Flinstones. (Make sure they are the "Complete" ones with iron, etc.) and they were just fine. They were a little bit of a lesser dose than the adult form. Maybe you could try that? Something is better than nothing. :)


As far as the gallstones/spleen/gallbladder surgery-has anyone said WHY meal replacement shakes caused the conditions? I have always read that having a too low calorie diet/losing too fast can cause the condition at times. They have changed the formulation of Slim-Fast a couple years ago, and they also changed the eating plan to a little higher calorie. It used to be loaded with sugar, and they took a lot of that out...and made it a little higher protein instead. They also used to have it in the 1980's and 90's as a "shake for breakfast and lunch and a meal for dinner". Now they have added more snacks, and they have added a mini meal to the lunch shake-like having a cup of soup or 1/2 a sandwich with it.

Also-there are many shakes and bars and protein supplements out there that are not formulated like Slim-Fast, such as Myoplex, etc. that weight lifters, etc. use. So, all meal replacements cannot be put under the category of Slim-Fast. I have used protein powders and high quality replacements such as Myoplex for years with no problems at all. :) They aren't the same.

ThinGirl in FatBody 07-12-2007 08:22 AM

Hi sugarandspice, welcome to the board - good luck with your new plan:)

Good morning everyone, well I am waiting for the TE to start any moment now. Last night I had a big crash in willpower and ate a bunch of crap that I shouldn't have. It's only the second time in 10 weeks that I cheated - the first time involving a tub of salted cashews, this time it was Mrs Fields cookies and pizza :o

How rotten I felt afterwards (combination of guilt, remorse and just bloated) reminded me why I prefer eating healthy, I just feel so much better and energetic, all those empty calories & fat just made me want to crash in front of the TV and rub my belly.

Countdown to the TE's begins now :o

Stupid time to cheat, I'm just 2 days away from my weigh in with the dietitian. :(

sstambler 07-12-2007 09:17 AM

Hi all - I am very confused (so what else is new!) I bought the pills two weeks ago and read everything including the book I bought seperately and I am still confused about how much fat I am supposed to eat, so I havent started!!! At 1600 calories how much should I have? Does it have to be equally divided by meal or just manage a daily total? What do you think would happen if I didnt do a phase 1,2 week and just started at a phase 3 level of fat?? I eat low fat cheeses and healthy peanut butter and hummus ( measured portions) but I think for Alli I would need to stop eating these foods and eat more carbs (even thought they would be healthy ones). What I eat currently fills me up and I have been losing weight so I just wanted to add the Alli but not sure if I will be starting off on the wrong foot. All of your insight and advice would be helpful.... thanks, Suzyq

StillTryin 07-12-2007 09:28 AM

Well my scale is REALLY MOVING NOW!!! MAN, I weighed Tuesday and was 175.6, then Wednesday at 175.0, this morning I was 173.8

It is FINALLY Kicking in! I am seeing some awsome results, the first two weeks were TERRIBLE. Not because the PILLS were not working but because I was not following what is recommended. Well I was close, but not at it. So this week I am seeing awsome results from being CLOSER to the intended plan. The bad thing is that now I am down to 3 pills and my refill wont be here unitl Monday!!!!! YIKES!!! So I will cut my fat for Breakfast/lunch and just use them for my bigger Dinner meal I guess. That is all I can do. Since the weekend is coming, I dont want to be off them for 3 days. I guess a little is better than nothing, right? I also had 2 of my pills in the container that were broken open when I got it, so that is not helping me out here.

Oh well, I will do what I can. That is all I can do, right?

katallan 07-12-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThinGirl in FatBody (Post 1771143)
Hi sugarandspice, welcome to the board - good luck with your new plan:)

Good morning everyone, well I am waiting for the TE to start any moment now. Last night I had a big crash in willpower and ate a bunch of crap that I shouldn't have. It's only the second time in 10 weeks that I cheated - the first time involving a tub of salted cashews, this time it was Mrs Fields cookies and pizza :o

How rotten I felt afterwards (combination of guilt, remorse and just bloated) reminded me why I prefer eating healthy, I just feel so much better and energetic, all those empty calories & fat just made me want to crash in front of the TV and rub my belly.

Countdown to the TE's begins now :o

Stupid time to cheat, I'm just 2 days away from my weigh in with the dietitian. :(


Don't beat yourself up! You are not the only one to have "slipped"! I will tell you that it took a day for the TE to kick in when I did the pizza thing. And I do not, repeat DO NOT, want that again! Although there were no accidents or leakage, the many trips to the bathroom were not fun!:o

Just get back on the wagon. :carrot::carrot:

And remember, that little blue pill helps keep you honest and on track. And I think it helps you get back on track sooner. Normally after a bad day it would take me days, if not months or years:(, to get back on track. This time it only took a single meal!

ThinGirl in FatBody 07-12-2007 10:32 AM

Thanks, yup I'm happily back on the wagon today with a nice healthy brekkie, a VERY light lunch today, and I'm planning a grilled chicken dinner with lots of veggies.

I feel a little sluggish and icky this morning but no TE's............. yet!

preppieblonde 07-12-2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sstambler (Post 1771230)
Hi all - I am very confused (so what else is new!) I bought the pills two weeks ago and read everything including the book I bought seperately and I am still confused about how much fat I am supposed to eat, so I havent started!!! At 1600 calories how much should I have? Does it have to be equally divided by meal or just manage a daily total? What do you think would happen if I didnt do a phase 1,2 week and just started at a phase 3 level of fat?? I eat low fat cheeses and healthy peanut butter and hummus ( measured portions) but I think for Alli I would need to stop eating these foods and eat more carbs (even thought they would be healthy ones). What I eat currently fills me up and I have been losing weight so I just wanted to add the Alli but not sure if I will be starting off on the wrong foot. All of your insight and advice would be helpful.... thanks, Suzyq

The book states that at 1600 calories a day, you should have around 15 grams of fat per meal. 3 meals a day= 45 grams of fat. Don't try to "save up" your fat grams for one meal though....that's just asking for treatment effects! if you started at phase 3, without having eaten low fat (15 grams per meal or less) in the preceding days you could def. suffer treatment effects.

preppieblonde 07-12-2007 10:36 AM

information posted on Slimfast by JaxJob in the slimfast area (I thought this was a good informational post).

gallstones

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preppie - I can't find any evidence online for slimfast causing gallstones or other gallbladder problems, even circumstantial evidence as posted in the alli forum here - except there. I'm not a doctor, so do ask one if you're really concerned. Everyone has things they don't like to do/use - for some it may be meal replacements. FWIW, *personally* I'd rather structure my diet around a product like slimfast than use a fat-absorption blocker like alli. But that's why I use slimfast, and not alli. I also have a deep loathing of artificial sweeteners. It doesn't make them bad, but I do avoid them like the plague. That's one reason I *like* the slimfast program.

What CAN cause gallstones or other gallbladder problems is very rapid weight loss (among other things). People with gallbladder problems are often overweight, and typically told that weight loss will help. If the loss is too rapid it can exacerbate the problem. The person posting on the alli forum about slimfast is talking about something that happened 10 years ago. At that time the slimfast program was shake-shake-meal, likely much lower calories than today. So it's quite possible that someone could use slimfast to restrict calories very severely and cause very quick weight loss. This *can* cause gallbladder problems. I remember when I was in my teens there were "meal replacement" plans available which consisted of ONLY shakes, no meals, and limited calories to about 660/day. (Yes, I'm 40, so it was a while ago .) This could be equally problematic.

Remember too that the formula of slimfast has changed in 10 years. If, indeed, there was a problem with it (rather than its application), it's no longer the same product it was at that time. I also think if we were seeing serious problems with it there would have been news and/or lawsuits (at least in the US). One or two people does not an issue make.

Anyhow, I guess this is a long winded way of suggesting not to worry about what people post. There are people who like and dislike pretty much every diet option available. Some swear by Atkins, South Beach, slimfast etc. Others have intense dislikes of certain programs. If you have a concern about yourself, talk to your doctor.

Hope this helps,
Jax

sugarandspice 07-12-2007 10:55 AM

Thanks for the welcome! Katallan and ThinGirl in Fat Body!
Another question of mine is sometimes I don't get enough sleep in my work week, what can I take or eat for energy.
I know energy drinks are a big NO NO!!! NOW! Anyways, would love to buddy up with someone. Is anyone out there that works night shift like me?? No more excuses!!! I am losing weight! I am on the band wagon!!!

StillTryinCONGRATULATIONS!!!! Keep up the Good Work!!!!

Bye, I got to do some things around the house before I'm off to town, then working tonight.

I plan to start Alli, but still unsure about the energy thing, working nights really puts a strain on things. Sometimes I don't get enough sleep, just don't want the vertigo or nausea. Just wondering, thanks for all the advice!!

StillTryin 07-12-2007 11:18 AM

I think we need our own "area" on this board since this one is getting long, I think there are enough people taking Alli to warrant it? What do you all think? Anyhelp MODS?

aphil 07-12-2007 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StillTryin (Post 1771426)
I think we need our own "area" on this board since this one is getting long, I think there are enough people taking Alli to warrant it? What do you all think? Anyhelp MODS?


As of now, I would honestly just start a new thread for every month. Like on August 1st having someone start a thread called something like "Alli Support Thread-August" or something like that, then I can come and close this one.

There isn't enough really, honestly, to devote a section of the forum to it. Most of the activity is really heavy because Alli was released recently-and because you ladies are talkative. ;)

I believe that it still belongs in General Diet Plans for now. If that should change, I will let you know.

StillTryin 07-12-2007 11:55 AM

OK THANKS, JUST ASKING! Thanks for the rapid answer, and it does make sense that it is so active since it is new....Your great Aphil

Shandee4007 07-12-2007 01:26 PM

Welcome to everyone who just started Alli, glad to see you here.

StillTryin - Your doing great, so happy to hear its kicking in for you. I am noticing a lot of changes since I'm into my third week also.

Its my TOM so I was wondering to myself, I may have lost more than what is showing on the scale. I'm usually 3/4lbs up during that time, so can't wait till its over to see what the real verdict is. Go Us and Alli!!!

I too agree this should have its own area. Wouldn't this fall under "Diet Plans" like all the other ones I see where there's WW, LA etc.?

Anyway, congrats to everyone's recent loss. And to anyone whose had a bad day, we have them all the time, just get back on that wagon the next day and keep movin' on - thats what I've been doing. :)

katallan 07-12-2007 02:02 PM

We could always do a "new" weekly post. Say on Sunday of each week? That way it would be less pages.

aphil 07-12-2007 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shandee4007 (Post 1771641)

I too agree this should have its own area. Wouldn't this fall under "Diet Plans" like all the other ones I see where there's WW, LA etc.?

A section of the forum is dedicated to a certain plan when it shows that it has stood the test of time (Weight Watchers, South Beach, Calorie Counters, etc. have all been here for eons...) and it is shown that the activity of this group will also stand the test of time.

There is a lot of advertising, and goings on with Alli right now, because it is brand new. It is popular. I am seeing it advertised in every major store, and in my recent Fitness and Shape magazines that I got in my mail. But, will the activity here, in this area and this thread-still be as active 3 months from now, or 6 months from now? That is the key.

There are a lot of plans out there that are bumpin' and busy for a month or two, and then there is no posting for a while. A few months later someone else starts a thread and it gets going again, etc. There have been months here where there isn't a post at all about Slim-Fast, and the next month there are tons of posts. The General Diet Plans area is for all diet plans which are not busy, or large enough, or established enough, to have their own section of the forum.

A few months from now, if things keep up, it might change-but for now, it is fine where it is. :)

Hun.e.B 07-12-2007 02:23 PM

Hello everyone!! Well I did it...I started!!! Yesterday was my first day on Alli. I didnt have it with breakfast, then lunch was so low in fat I didnt have it with that either but I ate WAY TOO MUCH! So I planned to have a light dinner of a lein cuisine pizza (only 8 fat grams) I decided to go ahead and have a pill with it since it was over 5 grams. Later in the night I got some serious munchies so I had some sf/ff banana pudding and some light popcorn. Then my tummy got upset. I dunno if I'd call it a TE but I did visit the porc. god, nothing major (sorry TMI). I'm raring to go again today!

I've noticed that I was super thirsty last night and this morning I had the hardest time waking up.

I did have to comment about Slimfast "causing" gall stones. I have done the Slimfast plan, in fact I was a community leader for a support group for it and was in pretty close contact with their nutritionists. Also I've taken nutrition courses (I was going to become a RD at one point) There is nothing in Slimfast that "causes" gallstones. Several years ago I had a gallstone attack and did ALOT of research on them both with the nutritionists and the doctor I saw. What Jax states in his post is absolutly correct. What generally can spur gallstones in people losing weight is rapidlyand/or fasting (among other things)...which you see with the old Slimfast plan. The Slimfast plan has changed dramatically over the past few years, its no longer a shake for lunch and a shake for breakfast then a sensible meal. If you research the plan now you'll see you eat quite a bit of food with the plan now. I lost over 75 lbs in less than 6 months. there are 4 F's to gallstones....fat, forty, female and fertile. The majority of gallstone sufferers have the 4 Fs (none of them being use Slimfast) If you are a candidate for gallstones and add to it rapid weightloss of a plan like slimfast used to be....gallstones could be in your future. My mother had gallstones and she never had slimfast in her life before having to have the gallbladder removed.

Okay off the soapbox. I hope everyone is having a wonderful OP and TE day!! I'm very excited to meet my first Alli goal!!!

~melissa

Hun.e.B 07-12-2007 02:24 PM

Way to go Ant Bee!!!!! Another 1.5 gone gone gone!!! Keep up the GREAT work!!!

~melissa

sugarandspice 07-12-2007 03:47 PM

Hey Everyone!!
I went to town and bought tons of ff stuff. I also bought the Alli starter pack!! I am very excited. I am going to wait till tommorrow or the weekend to try I think I haven't ate much today, sleeping late and shopping, now almost time to get ready to go off to work. I think I may go eat a salad. Anyhow, my hubby just chuckled when I said I hate to run to town to get that diet pill and some food. I am sure he is thinking, "here she goes again!" But no, I AM SERIOUS, this time!

Anyone have tips about working on the night shift??? Hard to stay on task! But I definitly will do this, This time. Later you guys, and congrads on everyone that is losing!!!! I will post in the am.

ThinGirl in FatBody 07-12-2007 03:48 PM

Still no TE's for me, I feel fine, had a light lunch with no need for Alli, waiting for something to happen LOL

sugarandspice, my hats off to you for working the nightshift, I don't think I would be able to adjust to sleeping in the daytime. Good luck with all your new healthy foods, enjoy!

Hun.e.B 07-12-2007 03:58 PM

Thingirl...well I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed for no TE...its still working without those! LOL!

Sugarandspice...hello and welcome! Remember that you dont eat fat free with Alli, you've gotta eat fat in order for the stuff to work. Good luck to you!

~melissa

gagurl78 07-12-2007 05:16 PM

New to the thread. Well I started taking Alli 3 wks ago. So far I am down 14 lbs. No treatment effects as of yet. Gotta run.

ThinGirl in FatBody 07-12-2007 05:23 PM

14 pounds in 3 weeks?? that's incredible.

StillTryin 07-12-2007 05:32 PM

Yes I have to agree, that is SUPER!!! WOW

gagurl78 07-12-2007 05:44 PM

Thanks. I'm pretty sure a lot of that is water weight. But I've been busting my butt as well.

Hun.e.B 07-12-2007 06:09 PM

Dont discount your hardwork! You are doing GREAT!! keep it up!!

~melissa

pmteub 07-12-2007 06:11 PM

hey all, I have been following the posts here, and started Alli last week Friday - so far I am down 5.5 #'s. Last night I ate cheese and crackers for supper....not smart - today I the leakage they worn you about - thank goodness I had my workout clothes in the car and could change. So now I know if I eat poorly I will need to be prepared better.! I have not had a headache yet, and havent been keeping a log of what I am eating....but I do notice I am not as hungry...but that includes not being thirsty - I am having a hard time gettng my h2o in. This weekend we are going camping and I dont know exactly how healthy I can keep my diet but I am sure going to try.


Pam

bobbigene 07-12-2007 07:04 PM

Good afternoon ladies! Wow, everyone is doing so well. I am having a hard time staying off the scale until Saturday but I don't want to step on it and see that I've gained or have stayed the same.

I hvae gone way over the fat grams at a single meal and haven't had any problems - which makes me wonder. Maybe all of the fiber that I'm eating is helping with that. I sometimes I even feel like I'm getting stopped up instead of the other! All very confusing.

As to the gallbladder issues. My dr has told me that more if you are Fat, Fair, Female and over Forty you run a higher risk of having gallstones. Also she has told some people to cut down on their dairy intake because they have a particular kind of gallstones made up of calcium. Now how they know that without taking them out I don't know. I figure that if you are gonna get them, you are gonna get them no matter what you do! It's like everything else in medicine, I think a whole lot of it is a crap shoot! People get lung cancer and they've never smoked. My mother smoked like a chimney for 50 years and when she was admitted to the hospital before she died, her chest xray was clear. I just do what I can and hope for the best!

Time to make dinner, think I'll have some grilled veggies with something else. Haven't decided yet what it will be.

deelightful32 07-12-2007 09:32 PM

Hello again all! Been praying for you all for strength...it's so very hard to stay on track when you just LOVE food! I know I do! I read that some of you were having issues with being tired or with waking up in the morning...I have always been such a morning person, I usually pop right out of bed. But I have been having a hard time waking up since I've been on Alli. I haven't had a single TE, I have had one headache (it was a stay-away-from-mommy-right-now headache) but since my start date of July 2, I have lost a total of 7.5 pounds. In ten days! I keep saying to my husband...this scale can't be right and then I make him get on it just to make sure...hehe. I do 20 minutes on the Gazelle after dinner every night while I watch T.V. and just try to stay around my 1800. I don't take a pill with breakfast because I have never been a big breakfast person, usually fruit.
I am so happy that this is working out for everyone and we have this great place to meet. Great job to all and thanks for the motivation. What a blessing you all are! Thanks...D

iloveadam 07-12-2007 10:01 PM

I have had Alli for 3 weeks....
 
and I still haven't taken them. Truth is, I'm scared to death to have treatment effects!:( I desperately want to lose weight but I feel afraid to start it and not stick to it. My family eats "freely" and it's very tempting especially because I'm the cook...I think I should just bite the bullet and begin it already, sheesh....I paid good money for it just to collect dust....Anyway...Just wanted to say hello to everyone here who is taking Alli. Keep up the awesome work!:smug:

sstambler 07-12-2007 10:24 PM

Iloveadam - I am in the same spot as you. I bought it and it is being used as a book end on my shelf. I am afraid after being low carb for so long, to increase carbs to keep the calories up and dropping the fats, so it never seems like the right time to start. I may just take one on a Friday night and hope for the best... Maybe we could plan to start at the same time??? Suzyq

Phoenix32203 07-12-2007 10:41 PM

Hi everyone! I missed you. I had a couple of busy days and was really looking forward to checking back in here to see how everyone is doing.
Not much happening here. I've been on the plan for 3 weeks and have lost 12pounds (mostly all in the first week). I have been eating low-fat, staying between 1200 and 1500 calories, keeping my food diary religiously, and making sure to get in all of the food groups. I got a new Calorie King counter booklet, since I am a calorie counter (it's what I do--It's what I LIVE for!) and a recipe book with lowfat versions of everyday, normal foods. I have a LOT to work on. I am not exercising regularly, and one of my ankles is swollen up in testament to my over-use of salt and my dislike of water. So I have two big goals for this month: to make sure to exercise daily and drink my water!!! The pieces are falling into place. I can't help but lose the weight eventually. In the mean time, I will feel better and be proud of myself for all the postivie changes I am bringing about in my and my daughter's life.

Thingirl--I hope the TE's are still at bay and that you aren't concerned about your weigh in b/c of your "evening off". I can't wait to see how much you've lost after three weeks! How exciting! One little slip can't undo all that hard work. You bought the Foreman grill, for Pete's sake!!!!!

Welcome, new Alli-gators. Hope your week is moving along fantastically!!!

Sugarand spice--love that kitty sandwich. :^: When I worked the night shift, I packed a cooler of healthy snacks and water/diet pop, along with a nice sandwich. We had a snack machine (kiss of death) so it helped to have something that I knew I'd enjoy as much. You know what I love now, though? Those 100 calorie packs. You can have a snack, the one you really want, and still make it fit your diet. I take one of these with me in my purse everyday (and to the movies!) for when that craving hits--the oreo crisps are the best, imo. Good luck.

Iloveadam--You are a prime candidate for this program, IMHO. You are scared to death of the te's, which means you will follow a low-fat diet come **** or highwater. I have yet to exceed my fat calories, and I have not had a single problem, mostly b/c, like you I am scared to death of the consequences. I hope you will bite the bullet and give it a try.

Congratulations to Delightful, PMteub, gagurl78 (WOW!), and Aunt Bee.

Hun.e.b Yay! You did it! I wish you big results!!!! Let us know how the first day went!

Take care, y'all.


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