[Wannabehealthy]

I woke up at 4 this morning and read for a while then went back to bed, so I got 6 or 7 hours, total. DH told his kids not to come over for Fathers Day but they might still come. He thinks its silly. I won't cook for them because they eat different than we do. Anything they would eat, DH will not eat, and I still don't have the gas turned back on. DH has installed all of our gas dryers, 3 or 4 of then over the years but this time none of the duct work fits. Having them install it is costly but maybe that's what we should have done. Around here, electric costs a lot more than gas, that's why so many homes have it but the newer homes have all electric. The only v time I had electric was in my apartment.

My weight is still up. I'm just over eating. In Overfed Head it says it does not matter what you eat or how much, it only matters that you eat when you're hungry and stop when hunger is gone. It makes sense and sounds so easy. He compares it with feeding a baby who will refuse the bottle once he is no longer hungry. We were born with that naturally but over time many of us have lost it. The only other way I can keep my eating under control is to do brunch and dinner, no more than 2MAD 5 hours apart. Otherwise I overeat. Bad habits are so hard to change!

[Pipsicle]

All was looking good until the weigh-in today. My weight is up two pounds from yesterday and 3.5 lbs from my lowest weight this week. I haven't seen a weight this high (with the exception of one other Sunday weigh-in) since May 16. *~Sigh~*

I saw the discussion about Applebees earlier. We have an Applebees near us. It was terrible when we first moved her but about 5 years ago, it really turned around. I can find stuff there that fits into my plan.

[pattygirl63]

Pipsicle Sorry about that. I have had that happen to me too. The gain may just a fluctuation and will come back down.

Carol Sue Glad you were able to go back to bed and get at least 6 or 7 hrs of sleep total. I like to get at least 7 hrs if I can. I felt so good last night that I couldn’t even get sleepy until almost 2 am so that cut into my sleep so that I only got 7 hrs myself.

Hope you are able to get the gas back on. I actually prefer cooking on gas stove but I have to say that electric is cleaner. I always hated trying to keep burners clean and ovens were a night mare. That is why I like my smaller countertop ovens because the parts from them can be thrown into the dishwasher.

I think Overfed Head is right. I’m not sure what we eat is as much of a problem for us as is to when we eat. While I like eating low carb and using some of the ideas from the SB diet books, I really need to get back to eating only when hungry and eating only as much as it takes to be satisfied. I liked a couple of things that lady said to you on the other LC site. She talked about playing games with herself. I used to do that. For example, when I did IE in the beginning after marrying DH and moving to FL (of course we didn’t have the idea of IE back then) I decided to just see how long I could go without eating. The only rule was that I had to feel hunger. I wanted to know how long it took for me to be hungry after I ate. I got to where I could go all morning until about 2ish without eating and I almost always did low carb. I ate a lot of tuna salads with full fat mayo back then because I didn’t worry about fat or macro balancing and it worked. When I ate out I either ate salads with my favorite salad dressing full fat or if we ate somewhere that I couldn’t, I would make that a CAD Reward Meal for just that day. It actually worked and back then I didn’t always have to cook for DH since he would go get hamburgers or heat a can of soup for himself and he was not a breakfast eater. Although his Mom lived with us, she snacked on foods she kept in her room and we made up little cups of soup for her because it was what she ate for breakfast. She could heat it up and was able to carry it to her room. Some days I only ate OMAD as I had read Heller’s first original book back then so I knew it was safe. I just went by when I was or wasn’t hungry.

I think I am going to see if I can go back to eating the way they did about 18 yrs ago as far as IF I thing if I can follow the rules I had for myself back then plus other things I’ve learned from IE that I will automatically be doing some form of IF with some fasting hrs being longer some days than others. I will be doing it using many of the guidelines I have learned from reading Dr. Agatston’s books and when I eat carby foods I will keep CAD RM in mind along with it like I did back then. That worked for me with no real effort back then and with all we have learned through the years I expect it to this time too. Oh exercise was daily back then so I will also continue the exercises I’ve been doing the past few days but do it more faithfully.

Weight is fluctuating but no real gain. Up .8 lbs just sodium from the soup I cooked the chicken breast in. I could have washed it off but chose not too.

Fatmad Hope you are doing well.

Have a great day Everybody.

[Wannabehealthy]

We are,waiting to hear if step daughter got the house. There is one other bid.

Trish another thing it Overfed Head was don't eat extra food because you think you need the nutrients.....take a multi vitamin instead. That is something I do. 3 times now I bought a bag of apples with the intention of eating one a day to get the benefit of the apple polyphenols in the skins. All 3 times they went bad and I threw them out. I will try one more time.

They got the house!! PTL

[pattygirl63]

Carol Sue I am so glad your step daughter got the house. That is great. How much farther will they live from y'all.

I can understand why Overfed Head says that and I agree. I think that is what I do many times because there are times that I have been eating when I wasn't hungry just to get in the nutrients I think I need to eat. I do that when following rules and have done that trying to get my macros right. That is why that didn't work very well for me. It also may be the reason that I don't need to track especially on MFP because I try to at least get to the 1000 calorie limit.

I don't even buy potatoes any more because they always go bad. So far I have eaten 1 meal. I have the second one planned with a Premier chocolate protein shake but not sure I will have it since I am doing IE today.

[Wannabehealthy]

My son in law says this house might be the same distance or closer. They currently live in a trailer park. The house is in the next town, in the next county but we live a mile from the county line if that makes sense.

[pattygirl63]

Carol Sue That is nice that they aren't going to be all that far from y'all.

My first day back on IE went very well. Didn't feel pressure about anything but I just enjoyed the day. I ended up with a 2MAD within 3 hr eating window. So all is good.

[Wannabehealthy]

Glad to hear things are continuing to go well for you, Trish.

I only slept 2.5 hours last night. Found out that DH bought the wrong vent and what he bought could catch fire. This is getting me upset. He keeps buying more and more parts and they are wrong. Pretty soon he will have spent the same $$$ as paying a professional installer. Its nice to have a man to do these things but he should admit that he doesn't know what he's doing. Things apparently have changed since we got our last dryer.

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DH went down this morning and installed the original vent he bought. He figured something out. So I started washing towels but I don't understand the washing machine. I guess I have to get the book out and read it again.

Next I will do sheets. The rest of the day I plan on cleaning unless DH changes my plans. My book came and I'd like to start reading it but cleaning comes first. I've given up on weighing. I think I will be 190+ the rest of my life.

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It took so long to do 2 loads. Both the washer and dryer have longer and shorter cycles and I think I used the longer ones. Our clothes don't get that dirty that they need a long cycle so I will learn how to use the shorter cycles. Trish, we talked about the washer locking so you can't reopen it but mine only locked at certain times, like the spin cycle, so I can open it to add something I forgot. I know you can't do that with front load.

I kept going downstairs to check to see if they were done and they were not. I can't hear with the air condition running too. I must have gone up and down 10 times when I normally do one or 2. My legs and butt are so sore so I guess I got some exercise today.

[pattygirl63]

Carol Sue I can open the front loader to add something but the problem I have doing it is that it takes a while to let the washer stop and then when I open the door water leaks out. So not worth it unless I really have to. Glad your DH finally go it working. And you really did a work out going up and down the stairs.

Talked to DBS yesterday and today about our 4th of July get together. We are celebrating the 4th on Saturday since 4th is on Sunday. We were figuring out who is going to buy what and then we decided to have her kids bring the chips. Her Hubby is good at getting more food for less $ since they have 5 boys and a slue of grands and great grands. So he is getting the meat and buns and I will go half on the price of the meat. DH finally went out and cleaned my patio and the grill to see if it still works since is butane so that is clean and works and ready to go. In fact, I told him that I am going to start using it now that he got it set up. DS who doesn't like to cook will make her potato salad and then bring the paper plates and plastic utensils. Then I will make the resto of the foods. We are also going to tell everyone to bring their own drinks. So I am so thankful that is planned.

My weight is just bouncing right now between 180 and 182. I guess I am just going to be doing that as it seems to be a patter for me. I have a routine going although I am working toward IE at the same time. It is so freeing to not have any real rules.

I talked to DBS about how she eats. I told that I was doing what I saw her do when she stayed with us when Daddy died. She drinks her coffee with Stevia and SF French liquid creamer until she has her main meal. She uses a lot of creamer. I always say she and my DH drink a little bit of coffee in their SF creamer. LOL She told me that if she gets hungry before she plans to eat, she eats a slice of thin sliced ham and sometime she wraps it with lettuce but not always. So I bought some think sliced chicken meat so I can do the same thing. Sometimes at night I don't want a shake so I could have that.

We were able to go to Walmart on the way home from Sam's club because I got a message that his medicine was ready. So I am home for the week unless we just decide to do something because no beauty shop this week.

Hope everyone is having a good week.

[Wannabehealthy]

Up early again today. When I wake up and can't go back to sleep I hate to just lay there.

I read the first chapter of SBK. The whole time I was reading it I was thinking "This does not apply to me.". He was talking about sugar addiction and told the story of when he ate dinner of salmon and broccoli and felt great, but then started eating the blueberry pie and couldn't stop til it was gone. I am not addicted to sugar. I can eat a very small piece of something sweet then I'm done. If I eat more I get what I call over-sugared. I feel as though I can feel the sugar all through my body and I have to eat something else to get rid of that feeling. I bake all those cookies for the holidays because my family wants them but I might eat two or three the whole holiday season. When we went to the casino buffet I would go through for second helpings while DH headed for the dessert bar. But I am addicted to FOOD, A compulsive over eater. If I make chili or a roast, I can't put it away for another meal. I keep eating til its gone. Sometimes I DO put food away but an hour later it calls my name and I get it out and eat some more. DH is a sugar addict. He has cakes and pie around all the time but he eats a piece a day. What ever is left after a few days gets thrown away and he buys new. It can sit there forever and I'm not interested. Occasionally I will eat one small piece. On Thanksgiving I have to bake an extra pie because he will have the first one gone before company even gets here.

Another thing he keeps mentioning is being hungry all the time. I'm rarely hungry. My eating has very little to do with hunger. But I know this is about more than sugar so I will continue reading.

I like my new appliances even though I'm still learning. My towels came out so soft and fluffy but that could be the fabric softener. I normally only do one load a day. I really got a lot of steps on my Fitbit.

Your holiday get together is going to be nice. I love when everyone pitches in and brings things. Bringing your own drinks is good so one person doesn't have to provide everything. We haven't used our grill for a couple years. Its out in the hot sun and nobody wants to stand out there cooking.

My eating is going ok. I'm not tracking anything, not even fasting but I don't think I'm over eating. I'll get back to it some day but not yet. I'm not weighing either. I have too much on my mind and I'm stressing.

[fatmad]

Was still 162 yesterday, and planned to fast. Then read something and got anxious a bit. It just got worse as the day went on. Ate about 330 pm and anxiety improved significantly. Will try fasting again today. I guess I have to be careful with emotional responses, as fasting can be hard if I am having mood swings.
I did not overdo it, but must be cautious.

Still having sleep issues at times, and fasting makes that worse too.
Have a good day friends

[Wannabehealthy]

Good to see you, Mad. Anxiety and stress can cause a lot of angst. Even doing a partial day of fasting is good.

I got on the scale but when I saw 192 I jumped off and didn't let it register. I need to do something to keep it from going higher and start back down. I'm not into it right now. I bought more kale and spinach so I might have a salad for lunch. And I want to saute some, too.

I read a couple more chapters of the book. Interesting information. I'll keep reading.

[pattygirl63]

Mad Good to hear from you. Sorry you are still having sleeping problems. Anxiety and stress do go together and doesn't make life too easy. Hope things get better for you soon.

Carol Sue It is good that you don't have a sugar addiction. I don't think I have a sugar issue as bad as I have had a high carb issue. I remember when I was a member of Overeater's Anonymous years ago my then DSIL said to me one day "I don't know why you say you are an overeater because you are not".

One day realized that I really wasn't an overeater, but back then I did eat a lot of high carb foods because it was cheaper to to feed a family on those type of foods. Plus I had married DH#2 who had 3 kids to feed and they were raised to et 3 meals and 2 or 3 snacks a day. And I mean they were full meals. I remember hearing that my MIL told her Mother that she new her son had a good wife because she was a great cook after she had come to our house to eat.

I don't know that I am an overeater as much as the fact that I would rather have noodles and chips and potatoes etc very high carb foods, but of course, I can't have any of that on a VLC or Keto woe.

Right now I am mostly not eating anything until our main meal and then have a shake or a snack later giving me a 2MAD. Weight is still at 182.2 which I consider a blessing since we had KFC yesterday. We will be having CB from McDs today since Sam's had no tomatoes that we like and DH wants to go back today to get them. I'm not sure I can ever do a clean keto or LC diet plan so I am just trying to keep carbs as low as I can and do it Intuitively as much as I can.

Hope everybody has a good day.

[Wannabehealthy]

Trish, during my gaining years I ate a lot of carbs. I was an over eater because I could come home from eating out and make a sandwich as soon as I got home, then a bowl of cereal before bed. I gained very quickly. I have cut way back on carbs but I still can't stop eating bread/rolls in restaurants. The biggest thing is the toast with my eggs and I use the 35 or 45 calorie bread. If that was all the carbs I ate I'd be fine. I love eating meat/fish and vegetables but I can't always do that because of DH. I only like chicken and fish, not beef or pork but I eat it because of DH. I would rather have my eggs at breakfast or brunch and then nothing after dinner. Two days in a row DH made noodles or potatoes for lunch and I dumped them out instead of eating some. I know what to do but I am weak willed. Its time for me to clean up my act.

[pattygirl63]

I got the book I saw recommended on another LC website called Naturally Thin by Bethenny Frankel. I have no idea who she is as I have never seen her. She evidently is a chef who was an apprentice on Martha Stewarts show and I've never watched Martha Stewart.

If the book is anything like her introduction, I will enjoy the book. When she wrote about people who obsess about eating only 1200 calories, fat rams or carb grams and having to measure, count and restrict everything we put in our body which is says is not a normal way to function, I realized that person has been me for years. She says that they do it so much and don't get the results they want until one day they decided "I just can't diet or do this any more" and they either give up or want to. Boy do I know that feeling. She says it has nothing to do with willpower but it is about taking control of your own life.

She says when you are following a diet that you are letting someone take control of what you can and cannot eat, when you can eat and how much. When it doesn't work then we move one to let someone else do the same thing and feeling it is not our fault because their plan didn't work, I look forward to see what her ideas are.

She calls herself a "health foodie" who thinks that although food should be healthy that it also should taste good.

I'm pretty much into not eating until 3ish but I would eat a good breakfast if I needed or wanted it. We had the CB today. I thought about eating it on the regular bun but realized that I like it on the 45 calories Sara Lee MG bread.
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Chapter 1 was Rule #1 of 10 rules. Your Diet is a bank account. It basically is
basically learning to balance your eating through out the day. Example if you have a big or heavy breakfast have a lighter lunch etc. to balance it. Another thing to do which we learned in IE which she calls diminishing returns. It is when you eat something that tastes really great when you take the first bite but as you take each one of the following tastes it tastes less exciting/good so when it doesn't taste as good any more that is when you learn to stop eating it. I need to learn to do that again because I ended up eating my CB long before I did. I have to say the main reason I kept eating was I didn't want to have to throw it out. I need to stop that attitude too. And she says these rules can be done with whatever woe you want to follow low carb, keto, gluten-free etc. I am glad to see that because so many who do IE or ME say you don't do it to lose weight.