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Old 07-31-2008, 01:28 AM   #241  
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Hi there,
I am flying by tonight... just checking in...feeling about the same-like I am walking through quicksand. I

t is so easy for me to get into the mindset of "here I go again in the GAIN part of the weight loss/gain cycle"...how is that for a sabotaging thought? Response: I can choose not to take good care of myself, believe that this is a cycle like before and feel horrible or choose to remember that, before, when I first lost the 35 or so lbs I have lost, I was feeling pretty kicky and great. I can do small things to take good care of myself this very moment. Another response: throughout my life, I will probably not stay at the EXACT same weight all the time (I should ask a thin person about this) and it does not need to freak me out to gain a few lbs.

Off to put my ARCs under my pillow in hopes that osmosis will take effect. ARGH!!!
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quick check in -overall a good day and even the internet is working. We did our exercising-Dh is feeling less tense doing the Yoga-still very hard for him but working with a great group of folks-most over 50 and at least a 1/3 are men- The pool was super crowded-often happens in summer when there is better weather and many tourist in the place. Monday was cold and foggy and I was alone in the pool. Would love to bottle my current atititude and pull it out for an later date when things get so hard again-right now only want to be on program-just not interested in overeating-know with time, stress, family crisis, exhaustion ect-overeating will again becken me with false promises.

Heidi-so glad you are hanging in here- Good luck on the Beck osmosis-My weight loss has been so slow-certainly could never do 1 1/2-2 lb a week-I only average about 40 lb a year-but am almost 80 lb lighter-I have a number of long plateaus but then eventually get more focused and more weight comes off.

RobinW-Great you understand the importance of taking care of your self-that is real tough one-we are starting a small handcraft busness-just working on a schedule to avoid those 12 hr days-way too easy to do that -plus then I am to drained to cook and do other chores-

QuilterInVa-Credit to you for your ability to be hungry and not go to a 7-11 snack shack for a treat!!Hope your asthma will not be bad.

onebyone-get better soon. Don't you want that blah feeling which makes food unappealing would stay-If we could make pill in which that stomach bug would only mildly make us stop eating but we could still keep working-hmmmm

shrinkin-much credit for just plowing through the day and ending up successful and with a good work out also. Some days are just that way-my sabataging thought is that the next day I should be lbs down because it was so hard to remain on program. Again much credit to you!

ScienceQueen-Much credit for your focus one each of the Beck sections-plus the posting help remind me to keep focus.- I do have trouble with selecting a goal weight as I have so far to go and sometimes it can take 2 months just to go down 5 lbs-which can seem so slow to me.

BBE-Blueberries are the best-plus so good for us. The song is Angel of the Morning-bet the one you have was done by Juice Newton.

evening to all

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Diet Coaches – A whole bunch of blueberry lovers here. Seem like we're the Blueberry Beck group, LOL. Normal day - on plan eating, did gym, took a walk (albeit shortish). Not great that I got my dander up about a contractor promising to come "next Saturday". Again. But nice that I didn't think of eating to solve the problem. (Although there are no calories in thinking of dumping boiling oil from the roof of my house, it doesn't help blood pressure or spiritual centering.) CREDIT moi for a normal day.

Yep, shrinkin and Sue (CoastalSue), CD#9 was Angel of the Morning by Merrilee Rush & The Turnabouts.

CD#10 of the 13 CD’s for $1:
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Hold me each evening by your side
Tell me you'll love me for a million years
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Then if it don't work out
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Sue (CoastalSue) - It's great to see you so motivated and focused. LOL at your wish to bottle up your current attitude for when the hard times come. Kudos to you and your DH for continuing to follow through. (Juice Newton??? How does your brain hold stuff like that?)

Heidi (hbuchwald) - Ouch for "walking through quicksand." Kudos for keeping your perspective and hanging in. Zillions to be made with your "Osmosis Diet," LOL.

onebyone – Ouch for some sticky bug. Take care of yourself. [ e-mailing chicken soup ]

Robin (RobinW) - Thanks for the useful reminder, "If I dont take care of "me" I will be useless to my customers." It is so easy for me to get so involved that I forget that and usually suffer.

shrinkin - So good to get yourself into the pool and then get rewarded by getting into your workout. And I really like your Helpful Response, "Just had to tell myself that it just is how it is." Kudos for using those Beck strategies.

Susan (QuilterInVA) - Big Kudos for "I wouldn't starve to death if I waited until lunch to eat!" Methinks it's a bid deal to change one's mindset - to be able to think of thoughts like that.

Lisa Marie (sciencequeen) – Kudos for just marching along to Day 10 now. Yep, a small goal seems to make sense. Do you have a reward in mind like freer's pedicure?


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• Cope with hunger and cravings. …" Beck, pg 24.
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Greetings, coaches!

Yesterday was uninspired but stayed on calories. Did not drink enough water. Not an exercise day and did not get any unplanned exercise. Credits for remaking my ARC so that it flips to a combo of "Its never OK to overeat" and "Methods to deal with craving/desire". It is actually printed on a small piece of paper such that the whole piece slides into my work ID holder. I have found it is a great place for me to pull it out during the day. Credit to me for remaking it with the new aids...now just have to use it.

Weigh in today: down 2.5 pounds this week. Some scale bobbing and number maybe lean as my water intake was down yesterday. Not the first time this week for the low number. Average loss for past 2 weeks = 1.75 lbs. Total Beck loss-9.5 pounds. You would think I would be ecstatic and motivated, but oddly, I'm not. Mind has been thinking about how long the road ahead is. Too hard on myself today.

Going to physical therapy this am. Having pain in both elbows and need to be sure that deep water walking not aggravating it. Wouldn't think so, but who knows. Deep water walking is "load bearing" exercise for core muscles, and for biceps, triceps, quads and hammies because the water comes up to the shoulders and the feet don't touch the ground.

BillBlueEyes-LOL over vision of you on the roof top with the cauldron perched and ready! Ouch for the BP. Credit for getting it back down and for another OP day. I think Angel of the Morning must be another classic that was done by a lot of groups...great melody and intriquing lyrics. I can sing all the words to #10, but can't ID the artist. Oh well, will just enjoy the song in my head all day. "Sweeting my coffee with a morning kiss"...wish DH were here for that today. He is back tomorrow night!

CoastalSue-Great vibes coming thru from your hard work and attitude! WTG! I am impressed with DH's yoga. Pool in the cool fog actually sounds pretty neat. If you get that bottling job done, I would sure be a customer. Could use some now.

hbuchwald-Credit to you for recognizing that the small things make a big difference and for the "I can" attitude. Kudos for keeping that ARC close to you. Keep on talking to yourself. You can and will get back on a downward wt slope. You know how and you know you want to for all those ARC reasons.

RobinW-Credit to you for learning to get rid of guilt. Good luck on the blog widget. Credit for persisting at that. Glad your eating is on track!

QuilterInVA-Hope the cold is short-lived and you are already on the upside. Credit for just withstanding the hunger. Yup, soy nuts are not really nuts at all (like peanuts which are also legumes). I really love walnus and pecans, so I have to watch myself with the "but they have healthy fats". The soy nuts are no flavor match for the others, but I need to get in more protein, without upping my fat intake. So, not a bad choice.

onebyone- Sorry to hear you are still sick. Hang in there.

sciencequeen-Kudos for setting a reasonable goal. Do you have any nonscale goals?

Have to stay OP today...including getting to the pool. Hope therapist does not decide I have to halt/slow that activity. Even though I am not thrilled going and often in dread mode, I do think I have some momentum and hate for it to be derailed.

It is another Beck day...Day 22 Say Oh Well to Disappointment. When do all these skills we are practicing become second nature (pg 178)?
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Bill~ Great job in not turning to food to feel better about that contractor. Dealing with others to get the job done is one of my major sources of stress (I have control issues) Awesome job!!!! Just Awesome!!!!

shrinkin~ dont think about the road ahead (my road makes me a bit bonkers) just think about today and getting thru it on plan. Then deal with tomorrow when it gets here. I know its hard to do some days, but if you can remind yourself when you start feeling down about how far you still have to go......remember how well you have done so far, and you will do just as good for the rest of the day. Your scale keeps going down ........thats a good thing

coastalsue~ I have found that if I need to work 12-18 yr days to get my days off in, I'll do it. The only time I'll work on a saturday is when a customer cant get to the shop during the week, I'll do an installation then....but then Im outta here! Give it a try, make your time off and do your very best to stick to it. Its taken me just over a year, but Ive finally got the hang of it

hbuchwald~ I have pretty much the same thoughts.....wont it be cool, when we are the skinny people need to ask us questions!?

Things are good with me....eating is good, exercise is sorta back. Im walking back and forth to work. I'll climb up on the treadmill tomorrow (with the a/c cranked as high as I can get it)

Have a great day everyone!
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*** Coming Soon ***
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by Judith S Beck, Ph.D. (January 2009)

Found this on Amazon today. You can preorder and they say it will ship December 23. Do you think she is actually giving a diet to follow in this one?

More later...
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hi all, just a flyby - still here, still working out, but i've been so hungry these last couple of days. very hard to wait until the next meal when i feel like i'm just not getting enough food - but i'm still logging every bite that goes into my mouth, and according to the log, i've been at (or slightly over) my allowance these last few days. crazy. i hope my body adjusts or resets or whatever it's supposed to do so i'm not thinking about food all the time! i probably just need to eat more protein or something.

happy thursday everyone - onebyone, hope you're feeling better soon!
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Good Afternoon Coaches.

I made it into the ceramic room at the school today. Unloaded both kilns, reloaded and fired the big one. I am on schedule again. The ride in on the bus was rough though. There are a lot more dips and dives when you have a sensitive tummy that's for sure. Anyway I stayed there for the least amount of time needed and hightailed it back home. Hopefully I'll be closer to 100% tomorrow. I am definitely better than yesterday. My food, of course, is all messed up. I've had nothing but liquids for two days, with some unsalted crackers and now some onion rings and this morning chicken burgers (no bun just burger). I think too much sodium and all that, but really I need to cut myself some slack. I haven't even had a chance to go over the paperwork nadine the trainer gave me on Monday. No time to plan out a food strategy. My workout session was postponed to Tuesday at 9am. Once I have that, that's it. Fast forward from there. Oh and I found out from my friend that another artist was suffering with a stomach flu when we were at the art show on sunday. I know she stopped by my booth and I went by hers. Guess I took something unexpected away from the show eh?

BTW scale read 256 this morning. Sheesh. Nice to see it below 260 for another day.

kuhljeanie Yes, have protein! A boiled egg is good. or add a couple of oz of lean protein to whatever else you are having. Your muscles want food I bet!

QuilterInVA I kind of hope Dr. Beck doesn't give us a specific diet. I like her current approach that we can use her system with anything, that it's portable and adaptable. But, of course, I am looking forward to what the new book offers.

RobinW Great going on getting your exercise in! It's really hard to start again when you start... extra credit for doing just that.

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Total Beck loss-9.5 pounds. You would think I would be ecstatic and motivated, but oddly, I'm not. Mind has been thinking about how long the road ahead is.
This is how I felt when I saw myself working out with the trainer in the gym. I just felt hopeless, even as I was doing the thing that would change my body. We are hard on ourselves... I think often on the brink of real change I will sabotage myself, and the closer I am to really changing, the more insistent those negative thoughts get. But OH WELL... what can we do? We jsut have to go forward and ignore the negative and keep going forward until we believe we really are going to get there this time. And we will.

BillBlueEyes Being annoyed by others coupled with no control over the situation does make for a fantastic opportinity to eat. KUDOS bigtime for not even thinking of doing this. Awesome. Me hopes that when you've got this thinking like a thin person down 100% you'll still be here coaching us all.
And thanks for the chicken soup...much easier to get it in email than stand over a stove cooking it from scratch.

coastalsue So thrilled to hear you are in the pool and wow, getting a hubby to try yoga is a biggie. Mine will not even consider it. Perhaps one day. Just keep it going girl!

hbuchwald And again I relate to this:
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...easy for me to get into the mindset of "here I go again in the GAIN part of the weight loss/gain cycle"...how is that for a sabotaging thought?
I know you wrote some responses I thought "so what?" As in "So what, the cycle isn't written in stone. I may go up a bit and then down a lot. I may not go up at all. I DO NOT HAVE TO SABOTAGE MYSELF BY OVEREATING TO MAKE THIS BELIEF OF MINE COME TRUE. I CAN CHANGE THIS." We can you know, change things. I am sure you have changed many things in your life, and this, girlfriend, is just another thing to change. It'll happen. We're all here with ya!

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CoastalSue: It really helps me to hear you say that about your slow weight loss and the long plateaus…thank you. Your energy jumps right off my screen and inspires me.

BillBlueEyes: Great visual of you on the roof with boiling oil… yowch! LOL…

Shrinkin: Way to adapt the ARC cards to be more convenient to access!

RobinW: We can do this!!! Thanks for your kind words. I love how you have made your time off sacred-so important!

QuilterinVA: Wow-I just looked for the new book the other day when Nessa posted and nothing was on amazon yet… hmmm…I just cannot believe that she would endorse any one diet….How could she top the day by day steps she has in this book…I am so preordering!

Kuhljeanie: keep on truckin girl! I really hope that things balance out more too for you-it sucks to feel hungry and/or wanting food all the time. The protein focus sounds good....

Onebyone: thanks so much for another response to my sabotaging thinking. I am glad that you are feeling a bit better and are so excited about your new workout schedule!

Today, I was ON…kudos to me for relaxing a bit today, for riding my bike 10 miles, for eating as planned, for planning my food and for giving some credit during the day. I am doing the bike leg of the danskin triathlon and haven’t been heavily training but am starting to freak out a bit so am on that bike!!! DD asked if we could go together tomorrow with that piggyback bike-YES! It feels really good to have a day of good self care.Thanks coaches for coaching me…  I am planning my food for tomorrow now…

the next week and a half or so will be full of challenges. DD is the flowergirl in a wedding on Sunday so we have the rehearsal on Sat night and then Sunday we drop dogs off to their former owners for our trip and then deal with the wedding all day (it will be fun but there is a lot of work that has to happen getting a five year old in the right frame of mind, looking cute as a button, staying clean and not BORED by sitting around during pictures and getting ready, etc…). Then, on Monday morning at the crack of dawn we fly out to Boston and will drive to Naragansett Rhode Island for 5 days and then hang with my mom in Boston for 2 days and come home on the 11th. It will be pretty easy to CHOOSE to stay on plan since most people there eat pretty healthfully and like to be active. There is an ice cream place that we usually walk to every single night. I am going to “pull a Judith” and allot for a treat each night. One scoop of whatever I want on a wafer cone-given that I stay OP during the day. Exercise won’t be a problem either-we walk a ton, will be at the beach (I love to just tread water in the deeper water and chat with whoever or meditate or whatever)…. I am really hoping that there are bikes there but cannot count on it. Maybe I could rent one for a day or two…Anyway, lots of crazy changes in my already “low structure mode” when I am on shaky ground with my program anyway. I can do this…I will make some response cards for snacking and for eating slowly and eating normal portions…. I can do this… (mantra)….
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Diet Coaches – Got in a good long walk, important because I've been walking less lately. Even so, I was hit with the Sabotaging Thoughts: That's really far enough, you're tired, it's hot, you can go back now. Sorta amazing that I hit myself with all of them at once. CREDIT moi for continuing. Was rewarded by the store at the far end of my trajectory having fresh pineapples for $2. That's in my gotta-have-it price range. We have a piece of fruit after dinner every evening. Watermelon is dominating right now - it is ever so good. But, I'm now drooling for fresh pineapple. Yay for summer choices.

Yep, shrinkin, CD#10 was Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye by The Casinos.

CD#11 of the 13 CD’s for $1:
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And the smell of flowers blooming fills the air.
Your mind is filled with the thoughts of a certain someone - that you love;
Your life is filled with joy when she is there.

Love can make you happy if you find someone who cares
To give a life time to you and who has a love to share.

Heidi (hbuchwald) - Yay that you're back on track. Kudos for your dogged persistence in getting there. Just love your phrase “pull a Judith” for the allocated treat. That's such a good idea to incorporate a desired treat into your plans. Look forward to hearing how it works out.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch for hungry; hope you find the antidote. One of the keystones of my journey is an eating plan that didn't require me to be hungry - really important for me. What I don't know is why that was possible. Don't know if I chose my foods wisely, of if I just chose a lot of food and slowly trimmed back, or if my mind and metabolism just happened to fit with my choices. But I remain convinced that a successful journey can't center on willpowering thru hunger rather than strategies that avoid hunger. All that said merely to support you finding your solution, feeling a bit humbled that I really don't know what that will be. More protein? Sounds like a good path to try.

onebyone – Ouch that the "sensitive tummy" persists. Congrats for the desired scale reading. Forgive me for being reminded of
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Emily: It's for Paris, I'm on this new diet. Well, I don't eat anything and when I feel like I'm about to faint I eat a cube of cheese. I'm just one stomach flu away from my goal weight.
Sending healing thoughts that you'll be your old self for your Nadine session on Tuesday.


Robin (RobinW) - Neat thoughts about making personal time. A good reminder that I need. One of the (many) sources of my clutter are from a stretch of intense working with no time allocated to even opening my personal mail or sorting any notes or paperwork. Once I'm behind on clutter, it's not a simple catch up, but a cathartic confrontation to get back on track. Kudos for the walking to work; good luck on the treadmill.

shrinkin - Thanks for getting me to go back and read Day 22 Say Oh Well to Disappointment. Just what I needed, especially as captured by: "I don't feel like exercising today. Oh Well."
Re: "When do all these skills we are practicing become second nature (pg 178)?" My experience is that some are creeping in. For example, when my walk takes me right by the takeout window of an attractive ice cream place, my thinking has shifted from: be firm and resist to the much more pleasant attitude: that isn't about me. On the other hand, when faced with FREE food samples, my most primitive feelings surface: I want!

Kudos for your creative storage of your Advantages Response Card in your ID holder. That's pretty neat.


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Thanks for the pointer to Beck's new book. I've put it on my shopping list until I find time to order it thru the 3FC link to Amazon. Released on December 23rd!!! What's that about? Too late for a Christmas gift - perhaps just in time for the guilty-about-overeating-during-the-holidays crowd, LOL



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• Eliminate emotional eating. …" Beck, pg 24.
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Default Day 11 - Differentiate between hunger, desire and cravings

Day 11 was an interesting experiment for me. I think it is going to be a key thing for me in this program. Why? Because one of the key things that pulled me in to this program was something from Chapter 3 "How Thin People Think". It was characteristic 2 of dieting issues: Low Tolerance for Hunger and Cravings. It was the last line that got me: In fact, some people who struggle to lose weight experience hunger and cravings as emergencies: I must eat now!

For about 6 years, I have told myself I have blood sugar issues. When I was pregnant with my first child, I almost passed out and the school nurse told me I needed to eat every 2-3 hours because any small blood sugar issue I may have had was compounded by the pregnancy.

Now, 8 months after my 2nd child, I am have changed my mind and realized that eating is NOT an emergency, I just need to balance my nutrition better. I eat very healthy most of the time, but when I need a snack, I tend to go for the high sugar stuff. Like yesterday, while it was only 4 WW points, it was all sugar - an 8oz Dr. Pepper and a small chocolate chip cereal bar. I need to find a better snack combination!

I have decided to continue Day 11 for two more days since the physical feelings/putting a number to it was so insightful.

onebyone - yes, the program does make sense. I'm going to slow down for a few days, though and take it all in. Maybe reread some chapters before moving on.

QuiliterinVA-wow, skipping your morning snack is awesome. That would (on a work day) be huge for me. I think I should try it some day, like the skipping lunch task.

Robin - I liked what you said about "If I don't take care of "me" I will be useless to my customers." I was talking about that to my trainer yesterday, but in relation to my kids, since sometimes I feel guilty working out while they are in there watching television.

hbuchwald- loved your thoughts about not being the same exact weight all your life and needing to get over it. I hadn't even thought about that - I've always just thought about the magic number!

coastalsue - wow! You got your husband to do yoga????

Billblueeyes- as for a reward, I liked the one in the book about the bracelet and buying a charm each time. Thanks for the reminder - that means shopping! I'll go check out Sam Moon this weekend and see if they have what I am looking for. (p.s It's August today - do we need a new thread? You're up early like me, and sometimes my brain is foggy, even after coffee...)

shrinkin - love the idea of the ARC on the ID badge. I was wondering what I was going to do when school starts up again, and you figured it out for me! My short term non scale goal is to be able to wear the work clothes in my closet when school starts up again. I have a closet full of clothes that are non-maternity, and they are about a 1/2 size below where I need to be and not look like a tramp.

kuhljeanie - I know that when have that feeling of needing to eat all the time, I definitely need protein. I used to turn to quarter pounders, so I either need to find a smaller, lower point burger, or find something else!
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