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Old 02-18-2015, 04:25 PM   #451  
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I was also going to ask about Complete Nutrition Smart smoothie here are the numbers. 1 scoop: 120 calories. 2 gr fat. 4 carb. 1 fiber. 20 gr protein. 1 sugar. Calories from fat 20. Whey protein isolate, fructose, what else do indeed to pay attention to? Thanks
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My cursory look at the brownie looks like it would be okay: 120 cals. 10 net carbs, <30% fat.
Is it soy-free as well? If so, I'll have to take a look...

The powdered peanut butter on the other hand....
It isn't enough protein to be a "packet" so then it would be an extra.
Extras should be 0 carb/0 sugar/0 fat.
So, save that one for P3-4
It isn't soy free, unfortunately. I was frankly shocked to find a mix that is gluten free.
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Could checkout thrive market place. Being that it is a paleo market online the food quality should be pretty high. I would imagine products void of gmo, soy and gluten. https://thrivemarket.com
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What do you think of coconut milk and almond milk. Is that allowed?
I hope someone weighs in on this question -- I have considered Almond Milk, unsweetened of course, as a desirable substitute for the 2 oz of skim milk referred to in the IP protocol...... is that substitution on program or off?
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unsweetened almond 4g fat, 2g (1g sugar) carbs, 1 g protein per 1 cup. seems rather safe personally. I am not a milk person my wife uses it for her bfast.
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Thanks oneuh2. I think I saw that post, must have missed the part about fat. I will go back and check it out. Does it matter if the shake is whey or soy? I have not heard good things about soy. Also the vitamins...I remember taking handfuls of them when on the original IP diet. Are they extremely important? Which ones are necessary/helpful for weight loss. We are in very good health. There is a lot of information on this thread but I have not seen Lindora mentioned. Is that a good site for alternatives? I am positive the caramel nut bars were the exact CNut bars that IP sold. A lot cheaper. Thanks again
Cicibel - I still use my clinic to get the IP supplements but there were recent threads that discussed the supplements. From what I remember, someone even posted a spreadsheet that summarized the IP and compared it to other brands. Also, someone recently posted that she found the IP supplements online (a Canadian company). Try the advanced search and use "supplement" as your search term, I think that might give you some info. I think the vitamins/supplements are important for health reasons and maybe to assist with weightloss as you are not getting all your nutrients with the food alone.
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I was also going to ask about Complete Nutrition Smart smoothie here are the numbers. 1 scoop: 120 calories. 2 gr fat. 4 carb. 1 fiber. 20 gr protein. 1 sugar. Calories from fat 20. Whey protein isolate, fructose, what else do indeed to pay attention to? Thanks
Fructose is high on the glycemic load and will produce a rapid insulin response. Which means that any excess blood sugar will be converted into a storage fat and put into a fat cell very quickly.

One of the major benefits (and aims) of IP is to stabilise the insulin production to keep the pancreas at rest (ie not overproducing insulin). Over time this will aid in producing only the amount of insulin that is needed to handle the sugar in the blood from the breakdown of carbs/fats/proteins and stop us putting excess into storage and gaining weight.

If it's only 1g of sugar then the amount of fructose must be pretty low, so if you don't notice any adverse effect on weight loss, it may work with your personal biology (not insulin resistant and not hugely carb sensitive). The only way to know for sure is to try it.

Check out Glycemic index AND glycemic load for common sugars and other carbs.
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I hope someone weighs in on this question -- I have considered Almond Milk, unsweetened of course, as a desirable substitute for the 2 oz of skim milk referred to in the IP protocol...... is that substitution on program or off?
Oheuh2 - I have used almond milk - particularly when I used Pure Protein powder, which makes a shake with a very thin consistency. Technically, it's not OP, but I never had a problem with it.

I've also used it with coffee. Never more than a cup in a day, but as you said the whole cup of unsweetened almond milk is comparable to the 2 oz. of skim milk.

Now I use the Quest shakes, which are fine with just water.
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Weighing in on the almond milk -

I use Silk unsweetened vanilla almond milk. The macros per cup are 30 cals, 0 net carbs, 2.5 grams of fat, and 1 gram of protein.

I never use an entire cup in a day. Some days just a splash in my iced coffee or some days a splash on the proti diet honey nut cereal. The amount I use adds a negligible amount of anything to my diet and I have seen no changes in my weight loss since making the switch. I have also used the unsweetened coconut milk with no adverse affects either.

A cup of skim milk has 80 cals, 12g carbs, 8g protein, and 0 fat. I'm not an expert or anything, but I don't see any reason you couldn't use the almond milk except for the fact that it's not on the sheet.

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YES! Thank you very much. I had found a previous version by searching the forum, but it did not list the sugar contents.
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Tried Quest Chedder and Sour Cream chips today. I'm not a huge chip person but occasionally like that salty, crunchy texture. 120cal, 20cal from fat, 2g fat, 5carbs, 0 sugar and 21g protein. I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked them. Not a horrible aftertaste like some things have.
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Tried Quest Chedder and Sour Cream chips today. I'm not a huge chip person but occasionally like that salty, crunchy texture. 120cal, 20cal from fat, 2g fat, 5carbs, 0 sugar and 21g protein. I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked them. Not a horrible aftertaste like some things have.
I like all the Quest chips but I have to be careful because I found myself wanting a second bag. Somehow it didn't seem like "enough" and triggered something in me. I had a whole case of them around the house but stopped eating them for awhile. Luckily, when I went back to eating them I was able to control myself.
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Tried Quest Chedder and Sour Cream chips today. I'm not a huge chip person but occasionally like that salty, crunchy texture. 120cal, 20cal from fat, 2g fat, 5carbs, 0 sugar and 21g protein. I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked them. Not a horrible aftertaste like some things have.
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I like all the Quest chips but I have to be careful because I found myself wanting a second bag. Somehow it didn't seem like "enough" and triggered something in me. I had a whole case of them around the house but stopped eating them for awhile. Luckily, when I went back to eating them I was able to control myself.
these have become my best friend!!
i love the sea salt and bbq the best!!
and at only 5 carbs i feel like i am cheating!
omg they are the perfect snack for when i am craving something crunchy and salty!!!
they go perfectly on a picnic and in my daily lunch!!
thank you QUEST!!!!
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I also really like the Quest bars. I try and stick with the natural ones that only contain Stevia and Erythritol. They are very filling and satisfy the need for something sweet and chewy. I try to keep it at 2 or 3 times a week but they are great for on the go. Did I see someone post that the Quest powder is good?
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Lori - I like the Quest powder. The vanilla is very good - and blends up nice and thick.

I love peanut butter, generally, but that flavor has a bit of a funny taste to me - I can cover that up if I add a bit of PB2. (A cheat, I know, but a small one. 1 tbsp = 23 calories.)

I just received a big shipment from Quest today, and will be trying the chocolate.

I do love the Quest bars, and also the sea salt chips.
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