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ontariophotogal 03-13-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 2manysizes (Post 3756751)
Don't feel bad. I'm only at the middle of week two and I already am sick of it. Truly, I think this is a hellish diet for those of us that hate the unrestricted vegetables and salad. I have absolutely no joy in eating anymore. I have tried steaming, sauteeing, grilling and every spice known to man and I still cannot eat them all. I'm getting to the point where I would rather not eat at all than have to eat the veggies and salad. Maybe IP is not for me :?:

Well, in fairness, no one said this was going to be easy and for someone like me who wasn't a huge veggie fan ever either, I have found that slowly but surely, I'm finding ways to enjoy them and even look forward to them. I too have found that eating is not so much all that "enjoyable" anymore BUT at the same time, part of this whole thing is looking at food more for fuel, rather than anything else. I am choosing lately to find MORE joy in other things so I don't feel so "deprived" in the food dept. Hang in there and for sure check out more recipes for "spicing up" your veggies. And remember, this program has a start and an end...sacrificing now will make later, so much better :)

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Originally Posted by calival (Post 3756757)
Hi all, day 3 for me and it's rough1 I feel like I have the flu, achy bones, headache and just plain grumpy!!! This passes right?? Is tomorrow going to be better?? I guess i am a big chicken where discomfort is concerned. Not planning on discontinuing, just need some reassurance from you guys that have been "there' that tomorrow will be great! thanks

It DOES get better....this is coming from the gal who on day 4 and 5, was ready to completely throw in the towel....I'm now 3 and a half weeks in and feel FABULOUS! Some days are better than others but follow protocol and you will find health, success and happiness!

Gentlehyena 03-13-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by calival (Post 3756822)
:(Thanks Lori, how long did you feel headachy??

Think it was about the first 5 days or so.... really kicked up the water and was diligent with the vitamins. Don't know if it was that or just good old time! 2nd day was the worst one, could even move my head. Did they give you a handout with suggestions if you experienced headaches? I remember something like that in the initial paperwork.....hmmm
FOUND IT!
"It might be something to talk to your coach about but regarding the headaches my coach said to mix 1/3 of a tsp of salt with 8 oz of water, and 15 minutes after you drink it your headache should go away. I've had to do it twice and both times it's worked. My coach says a headache is your bodies way of saying you need to replenish your electrolytes. " FROM JORDANNA ON A PREVIOUS POST......

thumper 03-13-2011 08:13 PM

chicken broth
 
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Originally Posted by deelee10 (Post 3756801)
Hi everyone. I'm sick as a dog. If I hadn't had a flu shot I'd think I have it. I guess it's the worst cold, cough I've had in years. My youngest son came home form college Friday night and I was living for that. He brought a couple buddies with him. I wanted to be able to give him a hug and cook some nice meals. But I don't want to contaminate them. I'm going to doctor tomorrow.The boys ordered my favorite pizza. I want some. I can't breath well enough to chew any substantial protein. Had 2 eggs. Even though I feel so sick, I'm still hungry. Have a headache, tired. Is it allowed to have chicken broth on IP? I tried all different ways to search the site but only saw broth mentioned for recipes. I'm still in phase one.

Hope you feel better soon, what a bummer on the limitations when your son and friends came home......but it says alot that he wanted to bring them home in the first place and they probably felt "independent" having to do more on their own. Regarding the chicken broth, read the labels. Protocol is 0 fat, 0 carbs and 0 sugar if it is not on the list, which broth is not on mine. I pulled out my 100% natural Swanson chicken broth carton and it says, 1% fat,1 gram carbs and 1g sugar. Low, so would it be worth the "risk" if you need it for nourishment? Probably, but your call of course. Curious what the folks who have done this for a long time would say. Good luck. :hug:

2manysizes 03-13-2011 08:13 PM

Jency and Gentlehyena, thanks for the encouragement. Tonite I ate dinner without 2 cups of vegetables or salad. I had chicken with sauteed shallots and a IP vanilla shake (which is actually my snack for later on). There was a point a few days ago when I wasn't minding the veggies too much. I don't know what happened but now I can hardly get them down. I did have them for lunch with IP Tomato soup (roasted fennel and cauliflower) but that was all I could do. Also, I added a tablespoon of tomato paste to my IP tomato soup as another board member had recommended. It greatly improved the taste and I think it only added 1.5 carbs. I've also added the veggies to the IP chicken soup but there is something about the flavour of them that I really hate. I guess that's why I never ate much of them to begin with. I'm going to give IP until the end of the month and then I will probably try a carb-reduced diet without so many restrictions. The large losses are wonderful but so is being able to enjoy a meal.

Adrean 03-13-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by deelee10 (Post 3756801)
Hi everyone. I'm sick as a dog. If I hadn't had a flu shot I'd think I have it. I guess it's the worst cold, cough I've had in years. My youngest son came home form college Friday night and I was living for that. He brought a couple buddies with him. I wanted to be able to give him a hug and cook some nice meals. But I don't want to contaminate them. I'm going to doctor tomorrow.The boys ordered my favorite pizza. I want some. I can't breath well enough to chew any substantial protein. Had 2 eggs. Even though I feel so sick, I'm still hungry. Have a headache, tired. Is it allowed to have chicken broth on IP? I tried all different ways to search the site but only saw broth mentioned for recipes. I'm still in phase one.

I have heard broth is ok. THe lower the sodium the better and make sure its msg free. THere are some brands that are lower carb that others. THe one I usually use has 1g Carbs for one cup....really for me that is not a giant deal if it is going to get me to eat those despised veggies of mine! depends on how hardcore you are! but I have not noticed a difference at all in weeks when I used broth and weeks when I didn't....

maykatcooper 03-13-2011 08:34 PM

I hear ya JOLIEBUG82! I love lobster and have found that I will gain 1lb 4oz the day after eating a 7 oz serving. It is totally gone the next day but I've learned not to have lobster the night before weigh-in. I'm guessing that crayfish might do the same.

Also bummed... just looked up mercury levels and found that lobster is really pretty high. SAMS has been a regular visit for us for lobster shopping and pre-roasted chicken (sans skin). Oh well - talapia and flounder here I come!

maykatcooper 03-13-2011 08:36 PM

Oh speaking of fish and mercury levels, I was sort of confused reading the FDA vs American Heart Associations measures and so decided to go to the site for the American Pregnancy Association... No I'm not - had a hysterectomy 7 years ago and am 59 but figured that if it is safe for the pregnant and nursing it must be safe enough for me. LOL!

mamarix1 03-13-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentlehyena (Post 3756729)
My niece lives with us and brought those little critters home one day a few months ago and it has been such a hassle. She was coated. Dr only said to take antihisamines (benedryl) because it is an allergic reaction. Bath in Aveeno colloidal oatmeal bath treatments. she said those all helped, she liked the bath. Steroids are an anti-inflammatory and a last ditch effort to curtail the itch. Weight gain from steroids should be short lived if it is a short treatment period. Poor soul, you must be miserable. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you are feeling better soon!! :(

Thanks for your support, we stayed at the Sheraton Inn in OKC overnight and my husband and I both got them. I'm really suffering, It must be that I am just that much sweeter because they really didn't bite him all over like they did me.

deelee10 03-13-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrean (Post 3756857)
I have heard broth is ok. THe lower the sodium the better and make sure its msg free. THere are some brands that are lower carb that others. THe one I usually use has 1g Carbs for one cup....really for me that is not a giant deal if it is going to get me to eat those despised veggies of mine! depends on how hardcore you are! but I have not noticed a difference at all in weeks when I used broth and weeks when I didn't....

Thanks Adrean. I just don't want anything creamy today. Broth will be soothing I think. I'll check for carbs and msg.

mamarix1 03-13-2011 09:02 PM

Boot Camp next week?
 
Boot Camp participation slowed down last week. Is anyone interested in doing it this week? If so I will start a thread, just let me know. I don't want to go it alone, but I will.
Mary

longdivision 03-13-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mamarix1 (Post 3756905)
Boot Camp participation slowed down last week. Is anyone interested in doing it this week? If so I will start a thread, just let me know. I don't want to go it alone, but I will.
Mary

hi mary! i was really excited about doing boot camp for 3 weeks before my birthday, but i had the lowest weight loss so far after the first BC week. this week i have had one restricted per day and have lost much more weight. i guess i'm just one of those people who need the extra carbs to lose more. bummer. well, at least i tried (and found out what works for me in the process). awesome job to all of you who are sticking with it with good results! i'd be right there with you if it actually worked for me!!

maykatcooper 03-13-2011 09:30 PM

Possible Help ...
 
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Originally Posted by esammy12 (Post 3755471)
I'm sorry your coach isn't helpful. My coach yells at me, berates me, belittles me, tells me on weeks where I've lost 3 lbs. that I'm not working hard enough, blames my lack of energy on me, when I showed a 1 lb. loss of muscle mass instead of all fat loss - she yelled at me again and told me they were going to "terminate" me from the program. I'm in week 8. My losses have been 5, 4, 3, .5, .5. 2, 0. We have to turn in our journals every week and those are scrutinized by the local IP sales rep - who then has the Dr. call us at home and tell us what we're not doing right. They get confused, they forget some of my medical history and things that we've already discussed she brings up again as if we never talked about them. I'm constantly explaining myself, they make me feel like a child. I hate going there. I started to lose steam 3 weeks ago, I just felt crappy about going in to the office, I started to question the program, I ate more protein than I should - never ate foods off program, just more than I should. I started this diet (my coach is my cardiologist) because my blood pressure was 180/110. Three weeks in she checked my blood pressure again (right after picking a fight with me) and it was still 150/90. She yelled that this program probably wasn't going to help me, that I was obviously a Type A personality - told me I should get therapy - then closed the door and proceeded to tell me that she was now in therapy for the first time in her life because she was having marital problems !! - I'm not a type A, am no stranger to therapy. Anyway, I have had minimal weight loss the last 3 weeks (3 lbs. and some inches) but when they took my blood pressure yesterday it has come down to 120/80. I was euphoric, so happy. They were pleased for my BP victory, but told me that if I didn't lose 3 lbs a week from now on, they're going to "terminate" me. It's all I can do to remain positive and try to convince myself that this diet is for me - not for them. And not for them to make me feel like s***.

;)Check out www.idealtogo.com. Contact them and see if they can help you. Just a thought. That is how I can participate up here isolated in the mountains with nary a clinic within an hour or more drive...

Pxlkitty4 03-13-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mamarix1 (Post 3756905)
Boot Camp participation slowed down last week. Is anyone interested in doing it this week? If so I will start a thread, just let me know. I don't want to go it alone, but I will.
Mary

I'm in. My coach hasnt offered the restricted yet, and I haven't been eating any restricted veg anyway. I probably just have to up my water and I'm doing it anyway.

Lucky Chick 03-13-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by longdivision (Post 3756919)
hi mary! i was really excited about doing boot camp for 3 weeks before my birthday, but i had the lowest weight loss so far after the first BC week. this week i have had one restricted per day and have lost much more weight. i guess i'm just one of those people who need the extra carbs to lose more. bummer. well, at least i tried (and found out what works for me in the process). awesome job to all of you who are sticking with it with good results! i'd be right there with you if it actually worked for me!!

I'm really not sure how to test the impact of the restricted packets. The first two weeks I had just about one a day, but the last two weeks I haven't. The first two weeks were 4.5 lbs per week and the last to 2.5 lbs and 2 lbs respectively. Granted week 3 was TOM and I'm only 4 weeks in...

Any recommendations? I'm not changing anything this week (WI is on Thursday) but maybe I should try one restricted a day starting Friday (next week). What do you think?

TatiN 03-13-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2manysizes (Post 3756838)
Jency and Gentlehyena, thanks for the encouragement. Tonite I ate dinner without 2 cups of vegetables or salad. I had chicken with sauteed shallots and a IP vanilla shake (which is actually my snack for later on). There was a point a few days ago when I wasn't minding the veggies too much. I don't know what happened but now I can hardly get them down. I did have them for lunch with IP Tomato soup (roasted fennel and cauliflower) but that was all I could do. Also, I added a tablespoon of tomato paste to my IP tomato soup as another board member had recommended. It greatly improved the taste and I think it only added 1.5 carbs. I've also added the veggies to the IP chicken soup but there is something about the flavour of them that I really hate. I guess that's why I never ate much of them to begin with. I'm going to give IP until the end of the month and then I will probably try a carb-reduced diet without so many restrictions. The large losses are wonderful but so is being able to enjoy a meal.

I would definitely keep experimenting! This weekend I made mashed cauliflower, I added Imitation Butter Flavoring, and it was delicious! Baking cauliflower with something spicy like cayenne pepper is really yummy too. Cauliflower pizza crust? Maybe stuffed bell peppers? You could make your own meatballs or hamburgers with some kind of cooked vegetable mixed in, maybe cooked spinach or zucchini?
Don't give up!! And honestly, other low carb diets require daily veggies, Atkins is 2 cups, I think South Beach may be more. If you put in the effort now, staying at a healthy weight will be easier when you find veggies you like!


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