[SWP]

Originally Posted by CinnamonSparkles

SWP-
I think you are doing fine. Everyone's bodies are different. I'm on week 7 and have lost 21.2 pounds. Your weight loss is comparable to mine. Not everyone loses 3-5 pounds a week - I only had 2 weeks (first 2) where I lost 3 pounds or more.

My advice is to just follow that phase 1 sheet exactly. Eat the lettuce, have your 1-2 tsp olive oil every day. Also, are you getting enough sleep? Are you stressed? Both will slow weight loss in general. Maybe try taking the digestive enzymes and stool softener. I think Blue Mermaid said that an IP rep told her we should all be on those.

And about your cardio- that's probably contributing to the lack of loss. Try walking instead for 45 minutes of your 90. I walk and my coach said it doesn't interfere with the weight loss.

Also- who knows about the cheats? They probably do add up because we're not supposed to have fruit. But you know that. Plan ahead so you have something better to eat- talk to your coach about it too. Maybe the coach will allow you to have string cheese or some kind of protein so you don't end up eating a banana at work!

CinnamonSparkles-I totally need to get back to being strict on the diet. I do totally get stressed and eat as a result. I'm promising myself that I won't cheat. Plus the stress of cheating on top of everything else in life doesn't help. I do get plenty of sleep though and I take the enzyme.
I'm still really confused about the cardio contributing to the lack of loss. My doctor said that I should keep up with my working out...and cardio does contribute to weight loss, so I wonder why it wouldn't with this specific diet?

[SWP]

Originally Posted by jordanna

Hiya everyone. I went for my weigh in today and I was only down 2.8 lbs, so I didn't hit 40 lbs in 8 weeks like I'd hoped but I did lose 38.3 lbs in 8 weeks which is a perfectly great birthday gift if I do say so myself...

so happy birthday me, thanks for the gift!

Amazing! Great job and Happy Birthday!!!!!

[MuayThaiGoddess]

Originally Posted by want2run

Try taking an extra potassium supplement. If you are used to working out a lot I think your muscles need that extra support.

i just started taking the extra potassium today, im still getting wicked cramps but i think it has helped some. thanks.

[SWP]

Originally Posted by MuayThaiGoddess

WHO THE **** IS YOUR COACH? HE IS DEAD WRONG! there is a SPECIFIC protocol put out for higly active people on this diet as IT WAS ORIGINALLY USED TO HELP ATHLETES GET TO THEIR WEIGHT CLASS. I have the protocol from my coach which was formulated by none other that Dr Tran himself. you need to ask about this. it usually involves doubling alot of your packets but specific ones, but only for very active individuals (athletes) i can try to post it on here or could email it It is called the Ideal Protein Athletic Protocol. That is what i have to follow when i am training muai thai as it is very intense.

I'd so totally appreciate it if you could share the athletic protocol with me! Thanks!!!

[MuayThaiGoddess]

Originally Posted by BlueMermaid

Ok, I am sure your coach has asked but are you taking your supplements and eating your salt? How much water are you drinking? Did you cut out the caffeine? Withdrawal from that can give you a headache but usually only the first 3-4 days. I had pretty bad headaches for awhile to the point I would eat the salt off my hand and drink a glass of water. I was eating more salt than the teaspoon allowed but it seemed to help. If I push myself too hard on the treadmill I get a severe headache a few hours later.

I have a friend that used to get migraines quite often. Once we started working together I helped her recognize that chocolate was the culprit. Have you started eating onions and mabye didn't before? I have read they can cause migraines. I hope the migraines are not caused by the IP foods, this diet really does work but I feel really bad that you are having migraines.

I too seem to need to eat more when I start my period. I think I have this alter personality that eats everything that it can get it's hands on. Have you tried adding a 4th protein to see if that helps?

I hope you feel better soon! Keep us posted.

Thanks for the compassion with the migraines, i almost had to go to the emergency room until my doctor re prescribed me some meds for real bad head aches. Thanks for caring, seriously. I have had migraines since i was ten and went to one of the best neurologist in the country for 12 yrs - they don't know why- but they went NUTS when i got on the diet- but i defended it tooth and nail- saying it would have at least passed and then on the secong day A PATCH OF MY HAIR FELL OUT and i have gorgeous long curly thick hair- so i had everyone freaked out, but i seriously don't think it was IP- maybe the monumental stress im under- but none the less, not exactly your ideal dieting situation. I have added an addition protein. i take all of the supplements. I usually dump the sea salt in a warm glass of water and drink it straight- disgusting but nothing is worse than the pain of the migraine. i drink between 12-16 cups of water a day. and its kegan water the good stuff. im pretty obsessive about it, besides we can hardly drink anything else!! and as for caffeine, i don't drink much- maybe a cup of coffee every other day- nothing big- im pretty anal about staying in ketosis so i watch the carb intake- i know how it works- wether its atkins or IP- ketosis is ketosis. i got the ketostix and my ketosis is high tho so im proud of myself- at least i feel encouraged like i know its working!

[FuzzMa]

Originally Posted by SWP

I'd so totally appreciate it if you could share the athletic protocol with me! Thanks!!!

Yes, I would appreciate that too. I play soccer 3-5 days per week, and I don't think that 3 protein packs and 1 protein meal are enough. I sometimes find myself hungry (genuine hunger), so I have an extra pack or extra meat. I just wonder if I should be including these all the time, or just on the days I play soccer?

[stacerp]

Originally Posted by FuzzMa

Yes, I would appreciate that too. I play soccer 3-5 days per week, and I don't think that 3 protein packs and 1 protein meal are enough. I sometimes find myself hungry (genuine hunger), so I have an extra pack or extra meat. I just wonder if I should be including these all the time, or just on the days I play soccer?

I don't know the athletic protocol but why don't you try having the extra every day and see if you continue to lose? I would think that even on your 'off' days you are still burning more calories than if you were sedentary, per se, every day.

[stacerp]

Originally Posted by MuayThaiGoddess

awe.. thanks i feel like i really got a hug. im not used to the support. yes, my coach has gone over most of it with me. I just don't see how adding in all those vegetables can help- read nutrition facts- like 2 cups of broccoli has almost 6 sugars and only 70 calories but the sugars will mess with our ketosis. it just seems like alot of carbs to downgrade the fat burning from high to low doesn't it? But tonight i am ACTUALLY FEELING DECENT i am adding in more calories which is more like the athletic protocol- because my coach thinks i burn fat more like a man because i have so much muscle- and my body was just wilting with no calories- and i was well into ketosis and everything. i also got my period too- and im hoping with the change and after that awful thing is out of the way i can start feeling good. ive had such bad reations this week my coach was suprised i stayed on- i had my hair fall out- but i was just SURE it wasn't due to IP.- its been a rough week and i am SO READY for a GOOD WEEK! thank you so much for your sweet support it means SO MUCH. I AM SO ALONE.

You have a lot of support here. These boards are great! I am sorry that you are so alone. Do yo mean just with IP, or in general? I'm sorry you were having so many problems, I hope they are able to figure it out. Glad you are feeling better now, though!

[MuayThaiGoddess]

heres the 1st part

This is the first diet for people that train hard and want to lose weight. It’s very important that while dieting they consume a minimum of 1-2 Grams of protein per lean pound of weight per day. They should also reduce the intensity of their training. At this point they should not think about adding additional mass but more of preserving the existing muscle mass while trimming the fat out.
Strict Diet Phase 1 same as usually but don’t forget the additional protein intake .The protein should be taken throughout the day but very important pre-workout and post-workout. The post-workout protein is very important and it should be taken within 45 minutes after the workout.
I would suggest for breakfast a double omelette or oat meal on the training days.
Post workout the drinks 2 envelopes peach mango, pineapple banana, or cocoa drink
I would allow for lunch a protein envelope, but also 1 hard-boiled egg or one third of tuna can in water plus their veggies and unlimited lettuce. (Do be careful about the dressing).
Protein for the afternoon snack: soup, drink or pudding
Evening meal follow protocol Phase 1
Evening snack Pudding
For the veggies broccoli, mushrooms, and asparagus are great.
Drink lots of water minimum 2 liters
Supplements compulsory! Do check for muscle cramp. If it occurs, double potassium and check sodium intake. When they sweat they eliminate lots of sodium and electrolyte, s,
These are the products that are the highest on the chemical index and with a higher potency.
DRINKS: cocoa, cappuccino, yogurt, banana pineapple, and peach mango.
Puddings: ALL
Soups: All
Oatmeal, breakfast cereal, and the omelette
A great way to accelerate fat loss is to do cardio in the morning on empty stomach or with just a protein drink before.
IMPORTANT Never get out of breath, the trick here is to do 45 minutes to an hour of cardio but never out of breath .You should be able to have a regular conversation, and you should get sweaty after 10 -15 minutes. Dress with warm clothes as heavy sweatshirts and pants and you will melt away. Cardio 4-5 times a week

[MuayThaiGoddess]

Athletes: Very to consume 1-2 grams of protein per lean pound of body weight.
Breakfast Lunch Dinner Snack Compulsory Daily Additions

1-2 Ideal Protein Envelopes
Oatmeal or Omelette

(Optional)
Coffee/Tea with
1 oz of Skim Milk

*Sweetener Permitted*
1 Ideal Protein Envelope

Plus
1 Hard Boiled egg or 1/3 can Tuna

*2 Cups of Select Vegetables & Unlimited Lettuce

7 oz of Fish or Seafood or 5 oz of Beef, Poultry, Pork or Veal

Plus

*2 Cups of Select Vegetables & Unlimited Lettuce


1-2 Ideal Protein Envelopes
(Pudding)

1-2 Teaspoons of Sea Salt

64 oz. of Water (minimum)

1-2 Teaspoons of Olive Oil or Grape Seep Extract Oil

Ideal Protein Supplements
2 Natura Multi-Vita (with food)
4 Natura Cal-Mag
1 Natura Potassium-Calcium (with food)
Double Potassium if cramping

Dinner Protein: (Suggested Options) - No frying or breading permitted.
Fish: Anchovy, Bass, Catfish, Cod, Grouper, Haddock, Halibut, Hake, Mahi Mahi, Monk Fish, Pike, Perch, Red Snapper, Redfish, Sea Bass, Shark, Smelt, Sole, Sword Fish, Tilapia, Tuna (Red Tuna-1 x per week) Trout, Turbot, Whiting, Walleye, Wild Salmon (1 x per week) Seafood: Crab, Crawfish, Clams, Lobster, Mussels, Oysters, Shrimp, Scampi, Scallops (4 large) Squid
Beef: Flank Steak, (extra-lean) Ground Beef, Rump Steak, Roast, Sirloin, Round, Tournedos, Tenderloin
Veal: Breast, Cutlet, Inside Round Steak, Rib, Shank, Shoulder, Tenderloin
Poultry: (skinless) Chicken, Fowl, Quails, Turkey, (2) Whole Eggs, Wild Birds,
Pork: Fat-Free Cooked Ham, Pork Tenderloin,
Other: Bison, Deer, Elk Frog’s Legs, Kidney, Liver, Ostrich, Rabbit
Vegetables
Select: Algae, Alfalfa, Asparagus, Arugula, Broccoli, Bean Sprouts, Cauliflower, Cabbage (red, pak choi, bok choy), Celery, Celeriac, Chicory, Collards, Cress, Cucumbers, Kale, Dill Pickles, Endive, Fennel, Field Salad, Green Onions, Green Bell Peppers, Kale, Kohlrabi, Leeks, Mushrooms, Okra, Onions (raw only), Hot Peppers, Radicchio, Radish, Rhubarb, Sauerkraut, Soya, Sorrel, Spinach, Swede, Swiss Chard, Turnip, Watercress, Zucchini
Occasional (2 x per week): Brussels Sprouts, Beans (Green & Wax), Eggplant, Palm Hearts, Peppers (all colors other then green) Rutabaga, Snow Peas, Tomato
Not permitted: Artichoke, Avocado, Beets, Carrots, Chick Peas, Corn, Parsnips, Peas, (all) Potatoes, Pumpkin, Sweet Corn, Squash, Yams
Seasonings
Apple Cider Vinegar, Fine Herbs, Garlic, Ginger, Lemon, Lemon Grass, Hot Mustard, Hot Sauce, Soya Sauce, Spices (MSG Free/No Carbs), Tamari Sauce, White Vinegar- NO BALSAMIC or REDWINE VINEGAR!!

IMPORTANT – Only 1 of the following Ideal Protein envelopes are permitted per day; All Bars, Cakes, All Soy Puffs, Chili, Oatmeal, Pancakes, All Soy Nuts, Muffins, Hearty Beef Stew & (Spaghetti-max 2/week).
IMPORTANT – Reduce intensity of training, at this point priority is on conserving existing mass and trimming fat. Post workout (within 45 minutes) – Drink 2 envelopes: Peach Mango, Pineapple Banana, or Cocoa Drink.
Training note: Great way to accelerate fat loss is to do cardio in the morning. Never get out of breath, 45 minutes dressed in warm clothing performed 4-5 times per week.

i could email a better version- but that was the best i could do on here.

[MuayThaiGoddess]

Originally Posted by stacerp

You have a lot of support here. These boards are great! I am sorry that you are so alone. Do yo mean just with IP, or in general? I'm sorry you were having so many problems, I hope they are able to figure it out. Glad you are feeling better now, though!

no i mean in general. I have gotten more support being on this diet than in a long time!! i have my sweet love of my life- 14 month old son roman and my mom and thats about it. i don't really have any other friends or family. i have alot of health and life problems- hollywood has nothing on me- and i try to stay at home most of the time! so im trying to write a book about it to make the best about it. but this place is uplifting, i love it.

[wagnomore]

Originally Posted by MuayThaiGoddess

i just started taking the extra potassium today, im still getting wicked cramps but i think it has helped some. thanks.

You got a double wammy - just starting IP and also getting your cycle...No wonder you're miserable...Hang in there. When the pounds fall off it does make it a little better. Stick to the protocol. It will be better soon.

[Novak]

Originally Posted by jordanna

Hiya everyone. I went for my weigh in today and I was only down 2.8 lbs, so I didn't hit 40 lbs in 8 weeks like I'd hoped but I did lose 38.3 lbs in 8 weeks which is a perfectly great birthday gift if I do say so myself...

so happy birthday me, thanks for the gift!

Your results are so impressive... Happy Birthday, indeed!

[Novak]

Originally Posted by Birman

I hadn't heard of that album. Just checked it out, and liked the clips. So I ordered it!

BlueMermaid asked me that a week or so ago and I didn't respond because I didn't know the answer. But I guess now I'll have to stick around. Otherwise, how will I hear about good albums?

As long as your taste in music goes back to the 60's and 70's, I'm your gal! Hope you enjoy the album... "Sunlight" is a great Jesse Colin Young song (remember the Youngbloods?), and one of my faves.

Many of us do hope you stick around... you add so much to the boards, it wouldn't be the same place without you.

[Mystical Mamma]

Originally Posted by jordanna

Hiya everyone. I went for my weigh in today and I was only down 2.8 lbs, so I didn't hit 40 lbs in 8 weeks like I'd hoped but I did lose 38.3 lbs in 8 weeks which is a perfectly great birthday gift if I do say so myself...

so happy birthday me, thanks for the gift!

Happy Birthday to You!
Happy Birthday to You!
Happy Birthday dear Jordanna!
Happy Birthday to YOU!!!!



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