as do I? Is that supposed to be insulting or literal?...No not a masters yet...going for it now...I have a degree in psych though...I understand alot of it...Im just saying stop being so critical.....Look at her...shes going through some serious crap! She did it to herself but she is still human....And we can make some strange mistakes...

I agree with you.Unfortunately what I have seen in my profession tells me that the odds are not good for these children.She appears to not be stable mentally and that is very sad.

ok you got my interest...I turned it on...

so she didn't have work on those lips....right....

she doesn't want attention....right....

2 minutes in and changing the channel....

EZ-staytuned for the 2 year old screaming "*****".It gets better.......

I know...I see that she is going to have her work cut out for her....Im sure her kids may or may not have a hard life...My husbands aunts and uncles are like a cult! VERY and strangely close but for the most part fine...His grandfather was an abusive alcoholic...I hope for the best for her...thats all I have to say....

I was just referring to your previous post about going to school.No offence.My point is, you should understand what is required to receive a masters in nursing.I was trying to explain to you that I am not pointing fingers at her for no good reason.I have seen the aftermath of this type of parenting.I DO hope she gets help, soon.But it is really had to help someone that does not think she has a problem.

She changed her whole appearance...that was apparent after the Dr. Phil show....She looked TOTALLY different...She craves attention as I said earlier...Maybe child hood trauma maybe not....She is the product of a fallen and corrupt society...Her case is extreme....but she needs help...

And like I said, having 14 children is not her problem.I have a friend with 9.Its not a number issue at all with me.But if you watched the show you would see how totally out of control she is.I hope someone intervenes after seeing the 2 hour special.

HEY K....just a quick one here...my response was in NO WAY directed at you...it was at her when she said nothing to her lips....riiiiight and doesn't want attention....riiiiight

I know the work it takes...Im going for it now! And going nutts! CRNA is my major...I have 4 kids...8, 6, 2, and 1 year.....Its expensive and time consuming....But I still maintain my 3.9....I just like to try and see outside of disappointment....Maybe because I have been judged so much...I was 16 and had a baby and another at 18 followed by 2 more...I have been raped and molested and abused as a child..It makes me want to help people...I cant help it...Im hold the weight of the world on my shoulders...

did her kid just call her the b word....goodness

I will now call you SUPER K!

Yes they should intervene but not take them away...Maybe provide some type of 24 hour assistance....TO get them in line...My husbands grandmother did well with her 12 and she had only her husbands income...He drank alot...and he was abusive to her...

your making me laugh...you are silly....thanks though...

I see that all the time...Im glad thats th eone thing my babies dont do...I would be so hurt...Their noisy and bratty but they try to be good...