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  • Quote: your making me laugh...you are silly....thanks though...
    I am glad I make you laugh


    but

    SUPER K is with the same respect I give my children for their efforts in school! One a high school teacher and one a scientist...both graduated college magna cum laude with honors...so SUPER K it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Kiahna-I do understand.i really do!!I also went in to nursing to help people.What I have learned is that I cant fix everyone.Trust me, I tried many times when i first started my career.I have seen horrible situations, sad situations.Yes, people choose their own lifestyle.Its just that I have seen many children with virtually no chance of a normal life because of their lack of parenting.That is very frustrating.Hopefully someone will help these children....which would only put a dent in the mass numbers of misguided parents out there.No one is perfect.I understand that.And you....should be pround of yourself.You are a success story.Take care of you though.Major burnout in this profession!!!
  • Quote: I get what your saying and she does crave attention....BUT...I just think people should dislike someone they only know from TV....I hope she does well...She always took care of her other kids....with lots of love...Yes she went to extremes to get more attention but I think we should just observe because the kids are already here....Theres nothing you can do...

    You should listen to what her own parents have said about her.

    It's not a simple matter of going to extremes to get attention, she brought 14 lives into the world. You don't think that's a big deal or any cause to be concerned?
  • Quote: Yes they should intervene but not take them away...Maybe provide some type of 24 hour assistance....TO get them in line...My husbands grandmother did well with her 12 and she had only her husbands income...He drank alot...and he was abusive to her...

    She apparently does have like 6 24-hour nurses. She has a whole team of them.
  • Quote: Kiahna-I do understand.i really do!!I also went in to nursing to help people.What I have learned is that I cant fix everyone.Trust me, I tried many times when i first started my career.I have seen horrible situations, sad situations.Yes, people choose their own lifestyle.Its just that I have seen many children with virtually no chance of a normal life because of their lack of parenting.That is very frustrating.Hopefully someone will help these children....which would only put a dent in the mass numbers of misguided parents out there.No one is perfect.I understand that.And you....should be pround of yourself.You are a success story.Take care of you though.Major burnout in this profession!!!
    I am very proud...I had not so good parents and I vowed to be different...Lack of parenting is a BIG thing in America...Most americans dont think they can change their kids or they think no matter what they do they cant change inevitable outcomes...Parents under estimate the power they have over their kids....Its like people think they MUST have kids...no one has to have kids....
  • Quote: You should listen to what her own parents have said about her.

    It's not a simple matter of going to extremes to get attention, she brought 14 lives into the world. You don't think that's a big deal or any cause to be concerned?
    no because my husband has 12 aunts and uncles...didnt you read that? Her mental state is the ONLY concern I have...My husbands family were those christians who dont believe in birth control and she had 12 kids...They are fine..All college grads and ALL have jobs and familes of thier own..They love eachother so much...they just dont trust anyone else...sucks for me...
  • Quote: She apparently does have like 6 24-hour nurses. She has a whole team of them.
    I see...and we are looking from the outside...the media portrays everyone in a negative light....Lets just hope she does her best...LIke the shows on TLC where they have 18 kids! Whats the difference? They are married? Thats it....The only reason she is so in the media is because she had 8 at one time...
  • Did not watch - refuse to give her any attention at all. Feel sorry for the kids, but she's nuts.
  • ok i didnt mean to start an argument. i also agree that number of children is not relevant.

    as a mom, i feel like its my job to give my son the best possible opportunities in life. i dont think she is in a position, with 14 children, no husband, and no job, to provide her children with all the opportunities they deserve. aside from that, she is clearly attention starved (even though she CONSTANTLY complains about how much she hates it) and is not up to the task of watching the 6 children she already had. they run around hitting each other, screaming and cursing.

    during the special even she was talking about how she regrets having them. her parents also think she is irresponsible. CPS was called twice during that special, and the police were called 2 or 3 times.

    bottom line, it takes a one in a million woman to deal with this many children, and i dont think she is one.
  • Quote: She changed her whole appearance...that was apparent after the Dr. Phil show....She looked TOTALLY different...She craves attention as I said earlier...Maybe child hood trauma maybe not....She is the product of a fallen and corrupt society...Her case is extreme....but she needs help...
    Woah. Do not blame this woman's craziness on society. That is a cop-out. She is not the only woman on earth to suffer childhood trauma (if she did, I don't know her backstory).

    Nurses wise: She has 5 during the day and 4 in the evening.

    You talk about your husbands family having 12 kids.....this case is different because 8 of them were born at once. She's unemployed. She's single. She doesn't parent her kids.

    The show on TLC (with 18 kids) is different because:
    The parents work, and they have real estate that they rent out for extra income. They take care of their kids and actually educate them and control their poor behavior. They both have big families, true, but I think it's two entirely different scenarios.
  • How the EFF did she lose all of that weight and skin in 3 months??
  • Quote: no because my husband has 12 aunts and uncles...didnt you read that? Her mental state is the ONLY concern I have...My husbands family were those christians who dont believe in birth control and she had 12 kids...They are fine..All college grads and ALL have jobs and familes of thier own..They love eachother so much...they just dont trust anyone else...sucks for me...

    And I'm pretty sure that they had two parents who weren't unemployed.

    No one can raise 14 kids by themselves with no job. She's getting by on charity.
  • Quote: I see...and we are looking from the outside...the media portrays everyone in a negative light....Lets just hope she does her best...LIke the shows on TLC where they have 18 kids! Whats the difference? They are married? Thats it....The only reason she is so in the media is because she had 8 at one time...


    Well, the Duggars are married, it is a two-parent household, and the husband has a job. Neither are on disability, and their kids are of all various ages which makes it easy for them to take care of their younger children. All of Nadya Suleman's kids are under the age of 10.

    You can't compare the two, I've watched the specials on the Duggars and they're very responsible well-rounded sane people. Nadya Suleman is not.

    You have to look at it from the facts. She's unemployed. Single. On disability. On welfare. And all of her kids were from IVF, which costs thousands of dollars per treatment. You don't think that's in any way irresponsible?
  • Quote: Woah. Do not blame this woman's craziness on society. That is a cop-out. She is not the only woman on earth to suffer childhood trauma (if she did, I don't know her backstory).

    Nurses wise: She has 5 during the day and 4 in the evening.

    You talk about your husbands family having 12 kids.....this case is different because 8 of them were born at once. She's unemployed. She's single. She doesn't parent her kids.

    The show on TLC (with 18 kids) is different because:
    The parents work, and they have real estate that they rent out for extra income. They take care of their kids and actually educate them and control their poor behavior. They both have big families, true, but I think it's two entirely different scenarios.
    If you read my ENTIRE post and didnt just comment on what would be relevant you YOUR argument...I ALSO said it could be childhood trauma or neglect....
  • Quote: How the EFF did she lose all of that weight and skin in 3 months??
    More than likely a tummy tuck...

    Quote: And I'm pretty sure that they had two parents who weren't unemployed.

    No one can raise 14 kids by themselves with no job. She's getting by on charity.
    And Im pretty sure you dont know what their situation was..He was an abusive alcoholic...so she eventually started fostering children....She had a total of 15 children in her home at one time...She had to take care of herself and her kids after he died of a heart attack...And money isnt the only way to take care of kids....People with less children are on assistance.....I just said mentally she should get help so she can be better for her kids..

    Quote: Well, the Duggars are married, it is a two-parent household, and the husband has a job. Neither are on disability, and their kids are of all various ages which makes it easy for them to take care of their younger children. All of Nadya Suleman's kids are under the age of 10.

    You can't compare the two, I've watched the specials on the Duggars and they're very responsible well-rounded sane people. Nadya Suleman is not.

    You have to look at it from the facts. She's unemployed. Single. On disability. On welfare. And all of her kids were from IVF, which costs thousands of dollars per treatment. You don't think that's in any way irresponsible?
    For the hundredth time...I NEVER SAID SHE WASNT IRRESPONSIBLE but I don tremember GOD giving me my platinum perfection card...So Im not going to judge her...I hate that everyone has to look at things from the same point of view or you get angry....You came in at the end of the debate....