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Great FBS Popsicle! The scale might need a little more coaxing!
Mad I had seromas after my surgery and had 6 months of home care after the surgery then the surgeon left the hospital and moved out of state. He instructed me to follow up with the surgery team if I had problems which I did not. I was just sick of doctors and hospitals at that point. I figured I could live with a fat misshapen belly. So maybe my fault. My problem also includes a lot of fat on my belly. I would like to get rid of that and that might help the issue.
I don't have back pain. It hurt a little after doing the twisting exercise but was fine the next day. My pain is feet, knees, hands.
Pipsicle, don't worry too much about the scale, but a blood sugar like that is worth celebrating!
Have you tried waist measurements, just once a week in the am. Even when the scale doesn't budge much, that seems to steadily improve.
my own weight is up a bit after a big eating day yesterday. Unfortunately, I even ate during the night when I couldn't sleep. That was not on plan, and didn't help me sleep either. Oh well, I expect I'm just excited and maybe I will sleep a bit on the plan. I downloaded some meditation audio files for me to listen to on the flight.
I will likely check in from time to time, since we will have internet. otherwise, will chat when I return.
Have a good weekend everyone
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I can't get my blood sugar down to save my soul. I believe it is carb creep and I'm letting more in than I think .Today I will eat to my meter. No eating unless it's below 120 or so. I'll fit a big salad in somewhere. I'm in a salad mood.
I've been kind of busy yesterday and today. Next week will be a busy week so not much to report. I am working at trying to spend more time living without thinking about food all the time as I'm so tired of reading books on food etc.
Weigh has leveled off no gain or loss and FBS is 152 this morning. Sleep is good and energy is fair not where I want it. Learning to relax and de-stress. I have been feeling myself becoming anxious and jittery a lot because I feel overwhelmed by everything in my life.
Mad sharing about the things she has been going through with dealing with trauma in her life made me realize this is what I'm going through with dealing with my Daddy. I am blessed to have my DH and DS to talk to and I realize those things are why I have lived my whole life locked in "anxiety" state. My sisters deal with depression and take meds for it. Baby sister takes or has taken meds for anxiety. I never thought about me experiencing those things. I don't want to use meds. I would rather deal with it and get past it without them. I suddenly realize that is what I'm doing. I had a great talk with DH and how it affects my relationship with him. He has been a great help. My prayer life is helping me with it as well and I'm beginning to let it all go and feeling totally free from the things that have caused it. May even help me to get my eating straightened out.
SC doctor once told me "You've been doing this long enough that you should know what to do". I think he was right. I get all messed up when I read about new diets etc. I've read a lot lately about certain nutrients that are good for me and just might help with some of the things I'm feeling lately. I've corrected things in the past by eating certain foods etc and I want to do that now. I've got info on what they call super foods especially for diabetes so I need to just work with those.
I used to play a game with myself where I chose certain foods by what it was good for. Example high cholesterol runs in my Mama's family so I learned from her to eat oatmeal. Berries are good for keeping the arteries clean, etc. I think I'm going to start doing that again. I'm a person likes to know why I can or can't do something and use what I need that helpful for me. It has worked many times in the past and will see how it works for me now.
I really think WW has a great plan when it comes to eating more fruits and veggies to get nutrition and antioxidents so I want to start eating more of those types of foods although I do think I need to limit some of the fruit which will fit very nicely in a good breakfast of oat or steel cut oats. Veggies with hummus makes a good evening snack. NO I am not going to do WW, but it doesn't hurt to take the good ideas they have and use them to create a healthy way of eating for me. So just working to get myself more organized.
I guess Mad left for her trip last night and pray for her a safe and great trip.
Carol Sue Glad your FBS was better today.
Pipsicle Glad things are going good for you too. Be patient with the scale and it is a good idea to use the measuring tape to help encourage you.
Y'all have a great weekend.
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Back on track this morning using the things I've learned that I want or need to use in my diet plan and tracked it on MFP. The amazing thing is that I've had breakfast with the steel cut oats and fruit and Greek yogurt and have a planned lunch for today and with 2 meals I will have a little over 1000 calories and can actually stop with a 5 hr eating window with no problems. My hope is that if I eat enough for breakfast and lunch that I will not need anything the rest of the day. The amazing thing is that my carbs are within the amount allowed for the day with some left over.
I've been so caught up in the low carb eat more protein and everyone is going with keto or eating mostly meat for their protein. I suddenly realized the other day I don't have to have eggs or meat all the time to get protein. Greek yogurt in my steel cut oats is protein. Fruits and veggies are carbs as well as is the starchy carbs. I remember the book I have of Low Carb for Dummies which brings this out and show how you really don't have to count the carbs in fruit and veggies. The only fruit she didn't allow to be a freebie is banana because she said that was the only fruit some people would ever eat.
Then I've been thinking about Fuhrman's book on reversing diabetes and it being more of a vegetarian diet. The foods in his book are carbs. I read yesterday in a nutrition article I got on line that research showed that grapefruit juice softens stiff arteries for women after drinking it for a number of months. I think it was like 6 months. I'm saying all this to say that there are a lot of good foods out there that are good healthy foods that we seem to think we have to write off. I don't think I could eat or drink grapefruit all the time although I actually went through a time that I craved it. LOL Can you imagine craving grapefruit?
I am so sure that IF is key to a chance of being successful at either reversing or controlling blood sugar that I will always do IF. My goal is to get back to my 2MAD. I just don't think I have to give up some of the foods that I like. I believe they can be included in a healthy eating plan. It all goes back to learning what works for each of us individually. I have a niece who keeps her bs controlled and she is a vegetarian and eats very little if any meat. Baby sister maintains eating mostly keto/low carb, but she lost the weight on lowfat diet. It is just as my SC doctor said, you have to learn what you can live with. I honestly believe that.
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Trish, I agree that this plan you are following is very good for you. I see great things in your future, healthwise.
I love grapefruit and grapefruit juice, but unfortunately I can't have it because it interferes with statins. When I worked at the pharmacy, I read something on their pharmacy notes that said that if you are taking statins you should avoid large quantities of grapefruit juice, as in a quart or more a day. I would never have that much. I like to buy those grapefruit sections that have the juice with them, and it's just a small amount. But the pharmacist argued with me and told me I should not have any. I don't know what to believe. All other sites seem to say don't have any.
I am about ready to dump all my meds and just live whatever's left of my life the way I want. I eat healthy. I'm just so sick of meds. The doctors want me to take these meds so they can see certain numbers on my blood test results. But what about my quality of life? I have had a lot of pain the past couple days. I did cut back on my Turmeric to see if maybe I didn't need it anymore, so I don't know if that's why I have the pain. I got tired of it today and took Tylenol Arthritis and the pain med the doctor gave me. I feel much better now.
A woman on the LC forum has lupus and she talks about the diet she has to follow to ease her symptoms, which include pain. Today I was reading about the Autoimmume Paleo diet which she follows. I was shocked to see that eggs, particularly egg whites are not included. So of all the things I've tried to eliminate my pain, eggs could be the culprit. I think that's why I'm so depressed today. I love eggs, and they are a big part of my diet. I can't imagine in my wildest dreams not have eggs every day. I did start eating more of them in the past year, and that's when this pain flared up. Coffee is another culprit, but I could give up coffee before eggs. Maybe I will see if my doctor will continue to prescribe the pain meds for me and to heck with trying to find a natural way to handle all this.
Carol Sue I wondered if you were okay since I haven't seen you here much the past few days. I actually thought maybe you had gone to the casino yesterday.
I know how you feel about the meds and everything, but when I think of the alternatives, I really want to live as much of a good quality life as I can. I didn't know about the grapefruit and statins. Thanks for letting me know. I did find frozen cherry berry blend at Walmart that I am using in my oats hoping it will help me relieve some problems I have been experiencing. I probably won't be adding grapefruit to my woe.
Are you still taking the Tart Cherry extract? I thought that with the turmeric was helping relieve you pain. I know it is frustrating when it flares up and you don't really know why. I pray you will find the answer.
I'm beginning to wonder if the statin has taken affect with me and might be preventing me from lowering my FBS. I will do my best to do 2MAD to see how things go. I am finding that the bs reading is lower before my second meal when I eat the oats combo than it is when I eat the eggs and bacon with or without toast. So I decided to eat the oats each day for breakfast. I decided that I could save the eggs and have them for a 3rd meal/snack if I need it. However, I'm hoping I won't need it.
DH likes BLT minus the lettuce once in a while and I figure I can get my bacon then. As for my eggs and bacon, I just don't think I would like knowing I could never have them again. So I feel your pain/frustration with it. You might try taking the cherry extract and turmeric the way you were when you had stopped the pain and then experiment with the eggs to see if it is a problem for you.
I've got pork tenderloin in the crockpot that I cooked all night. I'm hoping to get 2 servings for DH and my meal today and then have some pulled pork out of it for him to have for lunch tomorrow since I have to go meet Daddy and DS for his nerve test right at the time we usually eat. I will eat something when I get home. Baby sister has canceled going with us and I'm not sure if I'm still taking her to the beauty shop Tuesday morning or not.
Hope you get to feeling better Carol Sue and please go ahead and take your meds. You are feeling pretty much the way I did last week. It will pass so just keep doing what you know to do and you will get through it. Remember you also exercised last week so that may be part of the problem. You may have to pull back and not do so much at one time. We don't like to admit it but we are older and the weather changes things too for us. Oh how I hate admitting that one. LOL
HI friends: I am having a great time so far, and So happy to see older DD today when she arrived.
We have been going out to pubs for the best things in life, live music and people. However, i am way off plan in that I am drinking cider, and plenty of it. Because people are very chatty here, and want to buy a round for the Canadians, then we buy a round for them, and next thing i know I have had three pretty large drinks.
We are having a great time. Mostly eating ok, buying food at the grocers, though I did have a roast beef dinner, minus the gravy and Yorkshire pudding (very bread like thing, not sweet or pudding at all)
We have walked most places, but our airbnb is so close to everything we are doing, that doesn't add up to much walking.
In the morning we leave for Inverness and start being more adventurous, DD and I are planning a "walk" that sounds pretty strenuous in the Cairngorms.
I hope I can keep up. Had a little trouble with the dancing tonight, got out of breath sooner than I would like. Must get into better shape, and now!
Carol and Trish: I think there comes a time when you say "I'm managing ok with what I am doing, and I'm enjoying how things are" and there's a time when you double down and work through things. Where we each are in our lives at different points, we will do what is right. I often say to the people I care for: "I will give you information about the risks and benefits of this and that, and its up to you to make the decision about it that suits your family" as we are all different with different needs and expectations. And I marvel at how well and at peace people are with those decisions. If I check back with them later, they are still resolved usually to their original decision. If they dither, I ask them what they need to know that will help with deciding, and usually its that knowledge they need, and then can make the decision final.
Perhaps thats what we need. Its hard to balance all the multiple issues we may have to deal with at any one time.
In one of Dr. Fung's books, they tackle that. If you can't concentrate on diabetes and lowering blood sugar or losing weight, because of other health issues that are more pressing, then deal with them first. Or deal with blood sugar, and don't worry about all the other studies and new super foods, etc. DOn't always confuse the issues.
I have been very much able to stick with the blood sugar issue, although I have been able to CBT, EMDR and deal with my insomnia and CPAP at the same time, because they do not take me away from the eating plan.
I think this vacation may be a problem, so I will work on resetting myself tonight. I have certainly had a great time for two days, but tomorrow I can start the holiday planned with DD with all the hiking etc and forget the pubs.
Hi to Pipsicle and all the lurkers
Have a good night, tomorrow will be Thanksgiving Day in Canada, I am thankful for this group and your presence here.
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Mad, it sounds like you are having a great time. I wouldn't worry much about being on plan while on vacation. It's just a short time. Just enjoy yourself and get back down to business when you get home. You are doing great, and I doubt that you are really doing all that bad on vacation.
Trish, I will continue to take my meds, but my point is, they may be keeping me healthier as far as the blood work goes, but if I still have pain, I still have limited mobility, cannot do stairs without fear of falling, then that's what I mean by quality of life. I feel that I caused this by allowing myself to gain this weight that I can't seem to get off, and by discontinuing my exercise that I did so diligently when I was younger.
I took the Tylenol Arthritis and also the RX pain med today and I feel pretty good now. I still take the Tart Cherry but I think that's for gout, and I don't know if I have gout. DH thinks I do. I'm still taking the other supplements but cut back to 1 a day. Pain returned, so I guess I need to continue with 2 a day. I really don't think I'm going to discontinue the eggs, but when they are fried, I will only eat the yolk. If DH makes scrambled, the whites will be included.
From what I read online, statins do raise blood sugar, but not a lot, and the good effects of the statins outweigh the blood sugar issues. That's easy to say when you are not the one with the blood sugar issues.
When I see people who haven't seen me for a while, they tell me I look so good, but they don't realize how terrible I feel. I think I would rather feel great and look terrible. LOL
We went to Bob Evans for dinner. I got a chicken, cranberry pecan salad. It's very good. They sell a similar salad at Wendys that also contains apples. Wendy's salad is better than Bob Evans. I think from now on when we go out to eat I will always get a salad. It's usually a safe choice carb wise.
I haven't been sleeping well the past few days. I've also been falling asleep in my recliner a few times, and one time I fell asleep sitting at the computer. It's a wonder I didn't fall out of my chair. LOL
Carol- I am sorry to hear the pain is worse again. Maybe just cutting back on the amount of eggs would be enough? Of course, that is assuming it is the eggs that are the problem. Personally, I think eggs are ok.
Patty- Totally understandable on not wanting to continue to read everything out there on dieting and eating well. There is so much information. That's why I've taken to asking so many questions. It is hard to pull out the nugget I need from all that is out there.
Mad- Glad your trip is going well! Happy Thanksgiving!
This morning my FBS was 99 -normal for the first time in a long time. The 86 I got recently was after a longer fast. This 99 is from first thing in the morning. It seems the dawn phenomena that I had been seeing has run its course. Of course, I'd like to understand why. Do you think this means my liver is done releasing excess glucose?
The other things that could contribute are new set of testing strips (could they be off some how), better sleep (taking a med earlier instead of later seems to be helping me fall asleep sooner), and my doctor increased my thyroid hormone. Maybe it is a little bit of all of them. The drop in FBS seemed to happen nearly over night. Super glad and hope it stays that way. Now I can focus more on the BP which seems to have jumped up recently. I'm going to look into grapefruit and grapefruit juice.
Also, I've seen a couple of mentions to measure with a tape measure. Ultimately, I wear a tape measure at least once a week (pants that fit but are not supper comfortable). They are showing there is no change in measurement. Last week, I wore a pair that were really tight but ok. Ok that is until about lunch time and they got really, really tight. I must have been starting to bloat for some reason and I was very happy I was on my way home from work.
With regard to tart cherry juice, there was a study not too long ago that showed it helped people stay asleep longer. It helps my husband do that. When I tried it, I had trouble getting going the next day. I seem to be sensitive that way. Melatonin and OTC sleep aids do the same thing to me.
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Pipsicle, when I first started taking the Tart Cherry Extract I seemed to sleep better, but not this past week. Could be something else. And the Tart Cherry Extract could be what has been making me fall asleep in my recliner and at the computer.
All the things you mentioned could be contributing to the lower FBG. Hard to pinpoint which one it is. I hope the trend continues for you.
I can't remember exactly what it said about eggs. Something about something in the whites that shuts off some enzyme in the body. When I first read the list of foods to avoid for the Autoimmune Paleo Diet and saw eggs on the list I was in disbelief. I googled further and found the information on several sites, not just one, so I'm believing it's true. I might cut back a bit and see what happens. I recently started buying extra large eggs, too, because they are cheaper in a local store, believe it or not!! So that is contributing to me eating more.
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Weight 195 FBG 135. Both going in the right direction, finally. I wore my wrist support to bed and it really worked. It keeps the wrist from moving and compresses it and stops the pain. I got that thing at Goodwill, new, still in the package, for 99 cents. At the time I bought it, I was having occasional wrist pain. DH gets wrist pain too but he won't use it. Stubborn. I still woke up early and couldn't fall back to sleep. One time I got up to go to the bathroom and when I was getting back into bed, DH rolled over somehow and we butted heads. Neither of us got hurt, but I don't know why he couldn't stay put until I got back into bed. He got up before me and I was able to fall back to sleep until 9AM. I needed that.
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As the day went on my pain got to be less and less. I'm walking pretty steady, and I only got one sharp pain in my right knee that almost brought me to the floor. My wrist still hurts, just on the bone that sticks out on the side. I will wear the support to bed again. I didn't wear it all day.
I had eggs and toast this morning but didn't eat the whites. That was so hard, throwing them down the disposal. No butter on the 35cal toast. At lunch time DH made french fries and I ate 10, along with a stick of celery with cream cheese. For dinner, DH wanted tacos from Taco Bell. I didn't, so I grilled some calf liver. I only get to make that when there's something else for him to eat. He is mad because Taco Bell doesn't have french fries. I didn't have any vegetables today, so maybe later on I will make a salad. I could really go for some ice cream but luckily we don't have any.
I didn't have any vegetables today, so maybe later on I will make a salad. I could really go for some ice cream but luckily we don't have any.
