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This is the Sugarbusters support board, where anyone following, or interested in following, Sugarbusters is welcome to come for discussion, and support. We hope you will become a part of our great group!

We try to have different themes for different days of the week.

MONDAY: MMM, or Metal Monster Monday, is when we weigh in, and post our progress. This is voluntary.

TUESDAY: Is tip day- we try to share a tip, or two to help each other.

WEDNESDAY: Is Wonderful Wednesday. On Wednesdays, we share something wonderful about our selves, or our lives.

THURSDAY: Is Thirst Day! A reminder to drink your water! Its a good day to share a recipe too!

FRIDAY: Is FF, for Friday funnies. Everyone needs a laugh on Friday!


You are welcome to post questions, vent frustrations, whatever, but please be respectful of others and their beliefs.


Please take some time to check out our extensive recipe boards. Our RECIPE BOARDS can be located at the link below:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=89

Look for our QUARTERLY RECIPE BOARDS to post your favorite recipes and to see the most recently posted recipes. Recipes from the quarterly boards will be archived in proper categories at some point.


We have FIVE INFORMATIVE BOARDS!!!! Please take a few minutes to visit them! The boards are listed below as well as the link that will take you to the boards:

THE RECOMMENDED READING BOARD
THE TOOLS & TIPS BOARD
THE FOOD INFORMATION BOARD
MOTIVATIONAL & INSPIRING THOUGHTS BOARD
MY FAVORITE SB LEGAL FOODS


http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=89

We also have a SB WEEKLY EXERCISE BOARD that you can log your daily/weekly exercises on which is located on our weekly support board:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/show...40#post1344740



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Set a mini goal for yourself, and a reward for reaching it. Share it!

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Happy MMM to all you ladies. I hope the scale is good to everyone today.
I am down around 2 lbs this week, but more important, it is the first Monday I have weighed less than I did on Friday before. So that is a big accomplishment for me. I acutally had a 100% totally OP week and weekend. Even managed to make it through the pool party with no slip ups. I took all the sides (green beens, squash and zucchini casserole, corn, veggie tray, baked potatoes) and they supplied the meat, pork chops, ribs, hot dogs. I had my allotted amount of wine and did fine. I have been so proud of my DD, she had stayed OP all week and weekend too. She leaves for vacation on Friday so we have been working on how to manage while there. Last week we did the core plan which is so much like SB. This week we are trying the Flex plan just to see which one works better for us.

Worked out in the yard all day yesterday and cleaned house. My DH has decided (for some strange reason) that we need to cut the grass "tag team" style. If this continues, I'm getting a riding mower At least it is exercise.

I found some ww blueberry muffin mix at Krogers (sorry BOB) and they are not too bad. Something different.

Wasn't sure if we would make it to the gym tonight, so I go up and got 20 minutes on the out of the way.

Monet, glad you are better today. Don't overdo though.

Toni, Get back on that today. Monet is watching you. Glad you had a nice visit with your DB.

Tech, how many green tea bags do you sue for your tea. I can't seem to get it strong enough. I add a couple to my regular decaf mix. Speaking of people smoking while they are preggo, I got a call from a friend of my niece. The girls is 33, just had her 3rd child (less than 2 months old) and she has breast cancer and has to have a mastecomy. She smoke all through her pregnancy and is still smoking. It must take a hammer for some people to come to their senses.

Thin, glad Sean has found his nitch.

Talitha, any more pains or do we have a baby yet?

BOB, where the heck are you??????

Anyone else lurking, pop in and say hi.

Got to get busy. Have a great day.

I'm boycotting MMM today. I've been a bit unhinged for about a week. But today for breakfast I had a peach/raspberry smoothie made with frozen fruit, about a cup and a half of milk and a healthy splash of vanilla. And I had three sausages with it.

I have to go lay down, though. I'm pretty much strictly decaf and I'm getting headaches in the mornings without the caffiene. I'm sure they'll go away in time.

Okay...the front porch has my name on it...talk to you guys later.

Monet, Do you have a zucchini bread recipe made with ww flour? I can't find one on the boards. I forgot, congrats on your loss. You seem to be consistantly losing with this new med.

Small rant time: My parents are at it again in torking me off. Okay...here's the deal. Let's start with me. I grew up in a Lutheran church. We went just about every Sunday, I went to Sunday School and was 'confirmed' when I was about 13-14 years old. To this day, I'm not quite sure what 'confirmed' means, but I'm thinking it means I'm an adult member of the church and that's about it. I went to two years of Monday night classes for it and don't really remember much accept the Apostle's Creed. Anyhow...then when I grew up I became a teacher at the same church and taught 1st and 2nd graders and really enjoyed that.

Anyhow...enter my husband. He grew up in a Catholic home. His mother was really devoted. BUT, when her first husband (Derek's father) left her (HE SLEPT WITH HER SISTER!!) and refused to pay her any child support (it was the 70's before these things were enforced), she turned to the church for support and help and 100% shunned from, not only support and help, but from attending all together. This is where my husband's first bad taste of church came from. He's had other problems, as well, but it all ended when the two of us went to my old church...we had just gotten a brand new pastor about 2 months before we went there...to have pre-marriage talks...you know, that pre-kana (sp) thing. Well, we took a test and we were listed as a 'conflicted' couple. The pastor said we needed to seek counseling before he'd marry us in MY church. I couldn't get married in the church I had grown up in and this started MY first bad taste of church. PS...the reason we were listed at 'conflicted' is because I was honest. For questions like, "Does your partner have a bad temper?" instead of saying, "Oh, no...he's got the personality of a lava lamp...why, he never even raises his voice!!" I said, "Of course he has a bad temper...he's ITALIAN!!" So, we pretty much failed the test.

Anyhow...my husband has a real and present dislike for the church. Seems every time he goes there, he feels as though he's being brainwashed or doesn't fit in or has a really bad experience. So, who am I to pressure him into going to church, right? He has a great faith in God (and pretty much feels that he's God's favorite to backhand and put through as much misery as possible...I would refer you back to my conversations about his mother and his inheritance...which is about to be given to an Amenian woman that is about to marry my husband's step father), but has an absolute zero regard for the church.

So, this has led us to an interesting place...I, who have had many great memories going to church, have just about given up going to church because every time I do, my husband give me a load of crap for going...says he's not giving me crap, that I'm free to do what I want...but gives me a total cold shoulder when I go. Then gives me the speech about how he grew up in a Catholic church and who says I have the right to bring Kyle to a protestant church when he grew up in a Catholic church and maybe he wants his children to go Catholic... So...I just don't go...the stress it induces is just plain not worth it.

So...on to the next saga. I'm at my parents house yesterday and my dad says, "We have to talk about something very serious...Shelley's of age to get 'confirmed' and it's important to us that she gets confirmed...she's never even had her first communion!" Which, she has, its just that she has been taking communion at the Methodist church that we went to (before Derek became convinced that the pastor wanted to have an affair with me ) where God's table belongs to God and all who want to take communion are welcome...not like a Catholic or Lutheran church where you are only welcome if you have gone to school for two years to learn what it means. Anyhow...Im conflicted now on many levels. My husband will kill me if I take Shelley all the way to Orleans (45 mins away!) for confirmation classes and he'll kill me if I start taking her to the Methodist church because then he'll be convinced the pastor want to do inappropriate things to Shelley, I don't like the presbyterian church because they make me hold hands with total strangers...and then I have my parents telling me what to do with my child!!

Which is what's making me most mad, I think. My parents telling me that I need to get Shelley 'confirmed'. Why? It's not something she needs to get into college OR heaven...in my opinion. It's jsut a formality, to me. So, she can be an adult member of their church? If I tell them they can come get her and take her themselves, then when Kyle gets to be a preteen, are they going to start in on my about him? Derek would spontaneously combust!! When we go out of town for the night on Saturdays, he gets miffed if my parents take him to church for sunday school! He's convinced he's getting brainwashed.

So, anyhow...this is what happens when you marry outside of your religious beliefs and upbringing. I'm totally comfortable with my salvation and my childrens and even my husbands... At the end of the day, I really just don't like going to church up here. The churches are too small and I feel like the people in the congregation are total gossips and I totally get the feeling I'm being talked about by them when I'm not around....like if i go to church for, say, three weeks in a row, then if I don't go, they're all talking, 'why didn't she come to church this week?' I'd like to think its because they're concerned for my welfare, but I feel more like it's because they're gossipy old people. AND EVERY SINGLE TIME I go to church, I get asked to volunteer for something....like VBS is coming up. You know what happened the last time I volunteered for this? THEY PUT ME IN CHARGE...because, 'well, you're a stay-at-home mom...you have more time than anyone else...' I'm not even kidding!! I hate going to church up here...and the pastor IS creepy. He is always looking at people like he's really not thinking about their salvation...and his wife always makes me feel like I AM the other woman...she always gives me a funny look... When I taught Monday School (after school Sunday School...on Mondays), he would always be sitting in the corner playing his guitar and wouldn't ever discipline the kids...just sat there playing his guitar...

So, at the end of the day...would I LIKE to go to church every Sunday? Sure! Would I LIKE to have my kids confirmed? Sure! But not with the amount of stress it's going to cause. And ESPECIALLY (I'm going to sound like a bratty teenager here) since my parents told me what to do with my own kid! I mean, what I feel is important to my kid is my business, IMHO. At the end of the day, I just don't see what the big deal is. Baptized? Sure. Two years of classes with the creepy pastor so she can be an 'adult' in the church? I don't think so...

I think what is really getting me is my parent's telling me what to do morally. I mean, it's my life...I'm 40 years old!! They are such conservatives. You know...Derek's advice is this...join the Catholic church...and REALLY blow their minds. See...when my parent's got engaged, it caused a scandal...not because they were 17 and 19 years old...but because my dad was Catholic and my mom a Lutheran and my dad left Catholism to join up with the Luteran's...so my gramma banned all of my aunts and uncles from being in the wedding...and my parent's have always embedded in my head that WE do NOT belong in the Catholic church...like as if any of us went in a Catholic church, the roof would totally fall in on us. To this day, I'm intimidated by the Catholic church. The one across the street from us, its over 150 years old and I've only looked in the front door...I'm literally afraid to walk in it. Or intimidated, anyway.

Anyhow...I'm jsut miffed is all. I mean, what's the big deal, anyway, about being confirmed? So one can be an adult member of the church and take communion in a Lutheran one? Shelley already takes communion...and I explained to her what it means.

Okay...I have to clean my kitchen floor...talk to you guys later on.

Good morning a little late. Hope everyone had a great week end. I'm so happy I lost 4.5 lbs this week. I know next week will slow down but I'm so pleased with my loss. I just got off the treadmill. For breakfast I had 2 softboiled eggs and 1/2 ww english muffin. I've got to plan out the rest of my meals. I have my kids coming from Texas next Monday so I'll have to really have the food planned out for when they come so I can stay OP.

Monet- Glad you're back to exerciseing. Hope you don't overdo. Congrads on that pound. Thats so good especially after you've been so sick. I'm so happy you're feeling better.

Solly- Yippee for 2 lbs.!!!! Weight Watchers is working. How lucky to have your daughter doing this too. Yum blueberry muffins sound so good.

Techwife- I'm so sorry you're having such a bad time about church. You are 40 and do get to run your own life.......

Well almost time to go fold clothes. Be back later..

TECH: Well, I am not sure why your parents want to see Shelley confirmed. I don't recall ANY Bible verse that claims it is essential for salvation. AND, it sounds to me like they are going on 'tradition' here, and perhaps a bit of superstition. Thank them for their concern, but you will do what you AND YOUR HUSBAND agree is right for the children. I am sorry you both have had bad experiences with the church. It is NOT supposed to be like that. I have heard that Christianity is the only religion that shoots its wounded. There are a lot of misconceptions, and errors in the church. That is because it is made up of humans, who are all sinners. Thankfully, God is still good.

Evening all,

I have not been good all weekend and the scale shows it. I'm up 7 lbs from my low of 233. I am not a happy camper, but its my own fault. We had revival services at church all weekend and served refreshments all the days. Our pastor and wifes 5th pastoral anniversary was this weekend and we celebrated. But I am getting back on track today. I worked to hard to get the weight off and I'm not going to ruin it by going back to old eating habits.

Tech-I'm like Monet never have I read anywhere in the bible where it says we have to be confirmed. Now we had our girls dedicated but that was our thing....God gave us our girls and we dedicated them back to the Lord. Hope things work out for you. Will say a prayer for you. I'm 44 and my mom trys to tell me what to do but I don't let it bother me. I will listen and if its good advice I will consider it but some other things I tune out...lol

Monet-Hi there!! So glad your feeling better. My weekend was good all except my eating was out of control . Curtis has leveled out and the truck he drives is kept very cool so it doesn't hurt the byetta. The garden has all gone except for my okra its just starting to bear good. I have a gallon bag full in the frig I have to do something with. I like it boiled but I don't think I want to eat a gallon of it....lol .

Solly-Hi! Congrats on the 2lb lose. I am going to get what I gained lost and then some... .

Toni-Congrats on the 4.5 lbs lost!!!!! Doesn't it feel wonderful. Enjoy your visit the the kids next week.

Bob-Oh wheres Bob..I miss you!!!!!

Everyone else have a wonderful day and take care!!!

I ate an avocado and a couple little boiled red potatoes for dinner. I put some cheese on them, and some smart balance and low fat sour cream. Not a very legal dinner...I just did not feel like eating much.

I went with my friend who had the birthday party to return the dishes and table ware and tables she rented this morning. I have not accomplished much today, and I am very tired. I still get coughing fits, and they are still pretty bad. I would go get in the pool but Tom shocked it last night and it did not help at all! Its worse looking today then it was yesterday. He is so disgusted that he is going back to the old kind of chlorine he used and is mad that he ever called the man who came to work on the pool that convinced him to switch to a new type of tablets.

THUNDER: My mother in law drops small okra pods into boiling water, then takes them out, and rinses them in cold water and puts them into bags and freezes them. Then, during the winter, when she is cooking peas, she puts a package worth of the par boiled okra on the top and makes it boiled. You could do that...and have it all winter! I love it in soups, and its especially good fixed Indian style, with coconut milk, curry powder and chopped onions, sauteed in a pan.

Thunderstorms this morning! I was in the bathroom and heard the distant rumble of thunder, and them FLASH - BANG!! I'm going grocery shopping today because I'm low on meat and produce (actually, except for the frozen stuff in the freezer, I'm completely out of produce!) I bought some green bananas last night...DARK green bananas and they were GROSS! I had to use a knife to cut the peel off. Bleh!

My kids are getting nice and tan We've been spending so much time on the boat and at the beach...it's been so nice! I will have to download some pics and sent them to Monet for posting. We've been having a relaxing and fun summer so far. Tomorrow we go to the St. Lawrence County Fair for a competition and parade, then on Saturday we go to Six Flags in Darien Lake with the Marching Band. Four hours it takes to get there...but I'll be in the school bus with the kids, so it's not my gas tank. I hope I get to ride the Superman coaster this year. I took the Girl Scouts there a few years ago and the line was a mile long and I didn't want to spend my whole time there in line for one ride.

Okay...so this morning I'll have another smoothie and sausage for breakfast. Then its off to Walmart.

Talitha: Does your absence indicate that we're giving birth? I hope so! You've been through enough for one pregnant woman!

Monet: Derek is thinking of selling our boat and putting in a pool in a year or two. I know, pools seem like a great idea, but then I hear the horror stories of people with green pools and the problems that happen. Makes me think the boat is less maintenance! But a pool in the backyard would be used more, for sure!

Thunder: Those summer parties are murder on a diet plan. Don't sweat it...you'll be on track soon.

Toni: I hope you have a fabulous time with your kids!!

Regarding the church thing again. This may be unpopular, but I've always gone to church because I felt it enhanced my own belief in God and made me feel better connected. But when I go and it makes me angry to be there or uncomfortable, then it's time to stop or find another church. I don't even want to go to the Catholic church because, well, the sunday school teacher is a known floozie that 'dirty dances' with her boyfriend at the bar on the weekends and literally ran into my friend's house one Saturday night because she was too drunk to manuever the car around the corner my friend lives on. So, no...I don't want my kids goign to Sunday school there. It's just my mom gives me such a rough time about not going to church and I'm thinking...going to or not going to church doesn't make or break your salvation, either, imho. There are so many bad people that go to church and very nice people that don't. I'd hate to think that the nice people aren't going to heaven someday, but the bad people are because they walked into a building every Sunday. Perfect case in point is my husband's step father (again). Here is a guy that goes to church every single Sunday, cries to all who will listen about how much he misses my MIL and then goes to visit his 40-year-old Armenian girlfriend in his T-bird convertible that my MIL wanted to buy a few years back, but Frank said no, that it was a waste of money...so he went out and bought one not one month after she died...with HER money. Which, legally is his now, but SHE is the one that earned it and worked long hours at the studio for.

Anyhow...just had to add that. If Frank goes to heaven and I don't all because I don't attend church every week, I'm writing someone a letter!!

Off to make my smoothie!

Good morning ladies,

Hope everyone is well today.

Made it to the gym last night and should make it all week.

Tech, Since I am a mother who often give advice to her children, I can say that you should at least hear what they say and decide if it is right for you. I offer my opinion, try to wait until it is requested, but then I drop it. The Luthern church and Catholic church are very similar in beliefs and practices. Since I grew up in the Catholic church and am from the "old" school, I hang on to a lot of the old practices and beleifs. That is probably where your parents are coming from. The younger generation just has different beliefs and not to say they are wrong and won't get into heaven, it's just hard for the older folks to accept.My kids don't go to church on Sunday and we do. I hate it and pray that they will return to the church, but then again, if they don't I don't thing they are going to ****. I know they have had a good upbringing and have good morals. The conflict between you and Dereck about which church is something you will have to work out among your selves. I have a friend whose DH is another religion and even though they raised their children Catholic, they take turns on going to each others church every other Sunday. Good luck, I hope you find a solution.

Toni, Wow! 4.5 lbs is awesome. I'm so happy for you. You are doing great with your :tread; and eating. yes, planning your meals ahead for when the kids come to visit is the way to stay OP.

Sonya, Don't let the gain get you down, just don't let it get any bigger. You have been doing so well. It is so hard to do the right thing some time and so easy to fall right back into our old habits. Hang in there.

Monet, You are doing so great on that new med. It should be giving you great motivation. Are you seeing a difference in your clothes?

Talitha, are we having a baby?

Where is Bob?

Better get busy. Need to check points for my DD lunch. Have a good one.

Solly: Thank you for your post. You're right...it's just a generation thing. But I don't have to ask why they want my kids confirmed...it's really and truly because they want to be able to tell anyone that asks that they are confirmed. Otherwise, it's embarassing to them...and that is truly the only reason behind it. At the end of the day, though...the conflict between Derek and I is only enhanced by my parents interference or opinions. So, I wish they would just drop it and let us live our lives they way we see fit. Derek doesn't really love my parents as-is, and this really and truly makes things worse.

Breakfast update: I had a bowl of Kashi. I made Kyle a bowl of Cheerios and they looked good, but I opted for the Kashi instead.