[Ruthxxx]

Lurker checking in to say Hi.

Gracious, thanks for posting your food choices - gives me a better idea of SB plan. I think my brain is in overload lately. I read Sugar Busters, Schwartzbein, Glucose Revolution and Fat Flush all at the same time. I badly need a defrag!

This is such a motivating Board - now that BOB has blown my cover with my low carb pals, I may pop in more often.

Might even horn in on Chat one of these nights.

[Fillise]

Good Morning Everyone!

I just got back from teaching a Lenten Bible Study class and am just settling in with my coffee. A quci stop here is necessary before I begin the rest of the day's work!

My topic this morning was "fasting." As most of you know my Lenten fast is strict observence of my SB nutritional habits. This year I am working especially hard on portion control. When I first began this WOE I feared being hungry more than anything. Now I welcome the feeling. It has been quite an interesting experience to learn to listen to my body. I still have to fight the urge to eat everything in sight--especially SB legal foods, but the hunger pangs do force me to realize that I've never been truly hungry in my entire life and there are people out there who don't know from day to day whether they will have enough to eat. If I can learn to listen to my body, to provide it the fuel it needs without overfeeding it, then maybe I can also take the money I will save on the Junk food and help someone who is truly hungry. Somehow, when this is not just about me, my fast takes on a deeper meaning and becomes something I welcome rather than dread.

Ruth--welcome, basically all of these are the same--adopt low glycemic nutritional habits and you will be healthier in the long run (not the mention thinner).

Gracious--welcome also! I think your menu looks pretty good, maybe some more veggies, and maybe I'd take the omlet down to 2 eggs or simply egg whites. I don't count fat grams (or grams of anything for that matter), but I do try not to overdo the fatty foods. All the eggs with all the cheese may be a bit too much.

Vesnoid--Congrats on the Slovenia medal. I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to be able to bear to watch the ladies figure skating tonight.

Deb--glad you managed to miss the car cause it sounds like it didn't want to miss you! I also think that's great that the woman stopped you to ask about your transformation. The women I was with this morning were also talking about my weight loss and asking what I was doing. One of them was my Dr.'s wife--so I was preaching the low-glycemic gospel!

Kim--It sounds like you have had quite a usy few days. I hope DH gets it all straightened out--he sounds like a genius! Gosh I can't imagine taking these girls for the weekend! Actually they were really great. But keeping up with one 13-year old in NYC last summer was hard enough--I can't imagine keeping track of 4!

Nascar--you leave my Jeffie-poo alone! Actually what goes around comes around because the same thing happened to him on that next to the last restart. I thought about you there--hope the trip was good!

BKM--WOW! You are really doing yourself some good with your new nutritional habits! Congrats!

Hello to everyone else--must go work now.

Susan
300/241/150

[tree]

Rosalie - I know what you mean about the protein powder. I actually found one that tastes good (well in my breakfast shake). It's called Aria and comes in vanilla flavor. It's much better than the veggie protein powder I had, and gives the shake a nice vanilla touch. It has soy in it, so they tout it as being for Women! I think it has some other "women" vitamins too.

Debelli - so glad you're alright. Nobody ever looks while driving! Arizona is one of the top 5 states where people run red lights. I'm not talking about a fudge between yellow and red, the darn thing IS RED! It' horrible to listen to the traffic report in Phoenix (all the fatalities everyday). Tucson is less aggressive. But, I LOL when Tucson claimed to be bicycle friendly (only on the UA campus!) My pet peeve is the people who back up without looking (don't know how many times I've almost been hit). Maybe that's why jogging suits are in neon. I think you should put one of those bicycle strobe lights on your jogging clothes. They can't miss that!

[Zanne]

I just got a great compliment from my DH! He's standing behind me and says: "Is your butt getting smaller? It doesn't look as wide" So I guess he's noticing. I'm doing pretting good eating wise and keeping up with the exercise. Some days I need to get more water in tho.

DEBELLI I'm glad you're ok. I was hit when I was a teenager. Not fun. Guy said he couldn't see me--I'm 5'7". Some drivers are in such a hurry they don't think anyone may be walking. That's really great that someone noticed how all your hard work has payed off and wanted to know how you did it.

GRACIOUS Welcome to the board from one Canadian to another. I admire your food journaling. I can barely remember to write down what I eat, let alone break it all down. It's nice to see your menus. It gives us more ideas for things to eat.

RUTH Glad to see you post here again. Pretty soon we'll have as many Canuks as there are Floridians LOL

ROSALIE I was in Ambrosia this afternoon and no agave I'm trying to pick up a few bottles at a time from there whenever possible cause I don't know about the order from BC.

HI to everyone I missed.

Gotta go. Getting some beef and barley soup ready for dinner.

[vesnoid]

I am controlling my urges much better today. I have been eyeing that box of home-made oatmeal cookies, but... I'll go for the nuts.

Rosalie - Thanks for the recipes. I will make some of the bars, and perhaps I can find the company that Tree mentioned for a better tasting protein powder.

Debbie - WHAT A BUMMER! I also think you should wear something in NEON color. I was in Old Navy not too long ago, and they had all sorts of running gear - in pink and green. I thought it to be rather tacky, but now I can definitely see the benefit. Apart from adding a large strobe to your gear, try also one of those blaring horns. That could also have more than one use Rosalie sent me some protein bar recipes, so I will try them first. If you have something that could be shipped or could hold outside the fridge for at least 2 weeks, I would also love to have that recipe.
Also - thanks about he Carbolite information. I heard the expression before, but just didn't connect it with my goodies.
We live, we learn...

BKM - Congratulations! I will quote your accomplishments to the Non-believers!! You must feel really good about your hard work!

QUILTER - EEE! You have such optimism in dealing with those machines! I teach a computer class, and it is just one mishap after another. I hope you get all set up and running - and stay that way! It is more true with computers than with dieting - it's the maintenance that will finally drive you bonkers!

[Beth2374]

Wow... I've been so busy I haven't been on the computer for days!! What a WEEK!!!
A girl at work was staying in a shelter with her 10 month old baby girl, and moved in to a friends home, who then decided it cramped her style to have a baby around and told her to go back to the battered women's shelter.... well... I can't handle that... I've been there. Sooooo... I moved her and the baby in here with DH's FULL support. She's working full time where I work, and will have the $$ for her own place within 3 months...we set up a budget and a timeline, so there will be no hurt feelings.

Anyway... I did my usual weigh in after bowling Saturday night, and found that I was down 2 more pounds to my MARCH 25th GOAL of 190!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited... I haven't been this light since 1996!!! Wow... I am so proud of myself!

I've done great OP... just having a hard time getting in ENOUGH food, and less junk... this was an exceptional week when you consider in the stress factor, though... so I'm just glad the snacks and sweets I ate were even legal!!

Tomorrow is one month OP, and I'm happy to report that I feel wonderful! I haven't had the time to cook any of the sweet goodies I got ingredients for, because of everything going on.

I read most of the messages, and want to say WTG to all of you, and sorry I've been MIA this week! I have been slacking on my walking, but with rearranging furniture, moving kids stuff into one room, DEEP cleaning to make room... I think I've worked off quite a few calories. Also...the new RM (roommate) wants to WALK with me!!! Finally someone to motivate my big ol butt to get up and GO!

Hope everyone is doing great, and I'm gonna MAKE the time to be here to check in more often...

DEB - I resisted the urge to buy a scale... so many less depressing things to do with thirty bucks

I have 2 cases of Agave coming too... so that should be good for me for a while!

See you all later

[Debelli]

Evening All

Thought I'd get in a post before tonight's chat and while the big boy is in the kitchen making his wonderful EGGPLANT DISH that I love! He's also going to make a SWISS CHARD SOUP WITH LENTILS that's delicious as well-he's gotten a cold and loves soup when he's feeling under the weather. Even as he doesn't feel good he's still in there cooking-I offered to make the soup for him-he said he'd do it-I've made it before and it's come out good, but I guess with the way he's feeling he doesn't want to chance it that this time I'd screw it up!

Went to the HFS today and found some of the new AUNT GUSSIES cookies. I've bought them in the past but they came out with a new version of a biscotti and of course, I had to buy them! Also got some of the HODGSON MILLS WW EGGLESS NOODLES which I'd been looking for-want to make a noodle kugel one day. Oh yes, and I picked up 2 more cases of agave-which at this point, I think I'm set for the next 2 years! Better safe, than sorry.

We ended up (where else) Ole Ole and then Carbolite which was NY CHEESECAKE & VANILLA. They are going to have COCONUT come this weekend, so I'll surely be treking over there at somepoint for a LARGE!

Thanks for all your caring about this morning. It made me realize that I really have to get some ID on me. I had looked at a website before we our meeting in Jan. and I think I may just have to treat myself to one of these ID TAGS. Check out the site and tell me what you think-or if you know of a site that has something similar and cheaper (you know, always looking for that bargain!):

http://www.roadid.com/products.asp

You know, I just have to tell you all how wonderful you truly are! I go to the Sweetalk Board once in a while to see what's going on there and there's so much discontent over there, bickering, removal of posts if you say anything they don't like-it's sometimes downright terrible. I feel so blessed that we have such a wonderful group of people on our board who don't bikker, fight, etc-we truly are a wonderful group!!!

VES, CONGRATS to SLOVENIA! I was actually watching the Olympics at that time when he was skiing and was thinking about you. They must be going nuts in the country!!! LOL! Once you get to know me you know I go for comfort, not style! I don't wear your typical workout wear, but instead, black leggings and black T-shirts that are entirely waaaay toooo bigggg on me (XL). Nope, it was hard enough to get me to buy white sneakers this time (which I still despise and hate and ***** at each day I wear them). Hey, I still have 3X nighties I wear! No, you will hear from others on this board that I don't vary much from my usual wardrobe-just the way I am As I mentioned above, I do have a strobe (should say WIDE LOAD when it flashes), but only use it when it's dark, it was full bright daylight when I was out this morning. She was just an idiot, and I hope I scared her more than she scared me. I don't think know if any bars using agave would keep out for 2 weeks without the use of preservatives of somekind. I've made cookies and after a week or so out of the fridge, they were molding, but then again, I haven't tried something that has only things like nuts & oats in them. LMK if any of those recipes are good that ROSALIE sent you.

GRACIOUS, you may like the program that I have if you like to keep details like stats and measurments, etc. It's called the WEIGHT COMMANDER PROGRAM and you can download a trial copy-if you like it, it's only $9.99 and the guy give you the download and you send him a check. I use mine every day, but not to it's fullest capacity-I like it. I couldn't agree with you more about SB being healthier than Atkins-I could never in my right mind eat that much fat-even when I was fat, it was sugar that was the culprint for me (and some fat as well). We have a FOOD FOR THOUGHT BOARD where you can post your daily menus for others to see. Here's the link: http://64.119.161.199/forum/showthre...threadid=13154 Hey, you can still have some yummies, like DEBS CRUSTLESS CHEESECAKE that I have posted on the recipe board. It's delicious and totally SB LEGAL (when eaten in a small quantity and not the almost entire cake, as I was doing). When I look at some of the low carb cheesecakes, I just about die when I see the fat content-it's unbelievable! I'm going to say that the menu you posted just doesn't have enough calories still. Have you tried entering your info on a site like www.fitday.com just to see what the ratios are???

ROSALIE, thanks for offering the chocolate, I'll take those 2 bars happily-just let me know the damage when we see each other.

RUTH, you should come around more often-more Canuks are invading the board-they need your presence!!! Hope you will join us in chat-you know you are more than welcomed to do so at any time. Have never heard of the FAT FLUSH book-what's it about??

FILLISE, isn't it wonderful to see how far you've come, to realize how you were in the past and to see how you've evolved over the past year! You too were recognized on how well you've been doing by your Dr.'s wife-how long has it been since she's seen you?

TREE, well, it was broad daylight out when I went, so even a strobe wouldn't of done any good, but I actually do have one to use when the time changes and it's dark early when I go. People are just in a hurry, talking on their cell phones/passengers and they just don't pay attention.

ZANNE, it should be YOU BUTT IS GETTING SMALLER!!!!! I honestly don't think this girl would of seen me any differently whether I was
5 1 1/2 or if I was 5 11 1/2! She wasn't paying attention.

BETH, you are a true friend and I hope this gal appreciates the sacrafices you are making to help her out-that is so sweet of you!!!! CONGRATULATIONS on the 2lb loss and making your March goal over a month early-WOO HOO! You are doing so well and you SHOULD be proud of yourself-I'm surely proud of you!!! Keep up the great work, or I should say, losses!!! Hey, and CONGRATS on tomorrow's 1 MONTH SB ANNIVERSARY!!!

Well gals, hope to see you at CHAT TONIGHT AT 9:15PM EST Here's the link to get to the chat area:

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/vbchat.html

Have a great nite!

Debbie
194/121.5/129
SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

[vesnoid]

I have been using FITDAY.com and I just can't get that darn fat down where it's supposed to be!
Right now (with my stomach full and almost busting at the seams ) I managed to get this ratio (had to eat cookies to get my carbs up!)
Total Calories:1509 (is that enough?)
33% Fat
43% Carb
25% Protein

Remember those oatmeal cookies I baked this weekend? Well, I calculated exactly how much per cookie and of what I am eating. Here it comes:
50 ckal
0.42 g fat, 11.8 Carb, 0.9 Fiber, 5.75g Sugar (Agave, of course), 0.92 Protein.
As you can see, they are almost fat free. I am thinking about decreasing the Agave content, to get the sugar down, but then I don't know if they will be sticky enough. Perhaps I could add more apple butter? I didn't count any type of nuts in my calculations.
Anyway, I bought egg whites today to have those for breakfast instead of eggs. Those things (eggs) have sooo much fat in them!

Deb - I went to the store and bought one of those waist belts -If I am going to be walking 3.5 miles, alone, I better have my cell phone with me and perhaps some other goodies. Ricky might deter someone, but if something happens to either of us, I want to be able to call for help. Do you carry a water bottle with you? I have one for Ricky, but I don't think I will take it with me, because it is too cumbersome. It flops around and bounces off my butt! If I have one for me, Ricky adn I could share (he drinks from my hand, of course ) Thanks for mentioning the mounding. I will put the cookies in the fridge right away!
You are so right about the Sweettalk board. It is so disorganized. I noticed there are some people who stick around, but in general, the atmosphere is not even close to being as nice as here. Must be our moderator...

Beth - How very nice of you to help out your friend. What a trooper! See, now you have a walking buddy, perhaps a coffee buddy, not to mention a happy mother with a baby! Ahh...

O.K. I hope to come to the talk tonight (if I don't forget, or....one of my shows is truly spectacular tonight. O.k. I'll come and have a peak)See you around!

Vesna

[Frog Lover]

Lurked and chatted today! Will post tomorrow! Good Luck tomorrow on the scales!

Peace,
FROG

[Frog Lover]

Brace yourelves ladies, this is a good one and will claim it as my lowest weight ever!

[Size=huge]146.2!! [/SIZE]

That puts my loss this week at one happy pound gone!

More later. Good luck to the rest of you!

Peace,
FROG

New #'s 190/146.2/130
(43.8 down, 16.2 to go!)

[Debelli]

Good Wednesday Morning Everyone

I haven't gone for my walk/jog yet-very windy outside with a threat of rain looming overhead. Waiting a few minutes to see if it will blow over quickly so I can go. If I wait to long I know I won't go.

TOM finally hit me last night-5 days late. Wasn't worried, just don't like how it wreaks havoc on my system and use to not being late these days (funny how I use to think it was unusual to get period on time years ago).

Well, TODAY IS WEIGH IN WEDNESDAY!!! I hope you all faired well this week. Personally, I'm still up from my lowest, but happy to still be within my cushion!! I'm at 122.5 today

Thanks to all of you who joined me in the chat room-always fun!!!

Poor Eli is still sick-he's going to work but hopes someone will be able to take over his shift. He shouldn't go in, but you can't tell him that!!!

I forgot to post this little tip I read the other day that I thought was worth passing along-esp. for those of us who've been making my CRUSTLESS CHEESECAKE recipe. It says, when cutting a creamy cake is difficult to use DENTAL FLOSS! (just make sure it's not minted or flavored). To hold a piece taught over the cake and bring straight down and then pull it out (not up). What a great idea! Guess who's bringing dental floss to the SB GET TOGETHER next month!

VES, oh my gosh, girl, you look like a model!!!!! Thanks for posting that pic!!! Your stats on FITDAY are just fine! Don't worry about it being exact, you will never get it exact. Your fats are close enough to 30%, sometimes I'm way over myself. The cookies sound good-but just how many are you eating in a day-THAT'S the big question. I rarely eat real eggs and use Egg Beaters-they're pretty good. One thing I found out is they taste a lot better in a regular stainless steel pan than one that's non-stick. I top mine with lf cheese, yummy!!! I do have a water bottle on my fanny pack. It's bulky yes, but you REALLY need to have water with you, esp. here in Florida and esp. during the hot months. It also helps you from slowing down from the heat-def. get one to take with you. If you don't want a actual bottle, I had found some that go on your wrist, but to me, that seems a little cumbersome. There are also ones you can put on your back. Whatever, you do need water!!!

FROG!!!! What wonderful news!!!! I'm so happy for you!!!!

That's it for me, for now. Will check in with you all later, have some errands to run this afternoon. Oh, Eli's boss just called and told him to stay home-YEAH! Do or die, I'm going to make him that soup today!!!

Please remember, TOMORROW IS RECIPE DAY!!! If you have any good SB LEGAL RECIPES you'd like to share with the board, please, try to post them tomorrow!

Have a great day!

Debbie
194/122.5/129
SB since 3/22/00
Reached goal 6/10/01

[The Quilter]

Hey everybody. Just have a few minutes before I head off to work. I already ate and drank this morning and forgot to weigh. Honest, that's the truth. No kidding. Seriously. Okay, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! LOL

Just a couple of quickies:

FROG---CONGRATS, you rascal, on getting to another all-time-new low!!!! Awesome job!!! You must be feeling great and you really deserve a pat on the back for getting up so early to get to the gym. SEE . . . that sacrifice is alrelady paying off.

VESNOID---Ricky is adorable!!! He reminds me a lot of my Maddie girl. He's got that same shepherd smiling face. What a cutie-pie!!! And you're a doll too. Glad you are with us. Sorry I missed so much of the chat last night. Just call me space cadet Kim.

Okay, girls and Daramus!!! Let's go out there and make it a GREAT day. I am feeling full and fat today. Got the elastic waist pants working for sure today. Ugh. Depressing.

Take it easy.
Kim

[gracious]

Okay....you know how I switched from 4 months on Atkins to SugarBusters 13 days ago. I started SB weighing 169 and this morning I am 166!!! I was in total shock. I have never gotten past 168 since I began Atkins. I am so utterly thrilled that SB is working for me!

I am now convinced that the reason I ended up stalling on Atkins for 2 months was the fat intake. I was so faithful to Atkins it is not even funny. Now that I am *aware* of the fat, I can't believe how much of it I was consuming. The full fat dressings, cheese, creams, nuts, etc. It is true it helps you feel satiated, but it obviously slowed down my loss. I would rather eat less fat, but have fruit and grains.

I am going about this in a more *scientific* method. It is a shame I can't use fitday with my crumby computer, but I do it all manually myself. I was excellent at counting carbs on Atkins, but everything else fell by the wayside. I now keep track of carbs/protein/fat. I have figured out the proper amounts for myself, according to the SB philosophy and it must be working to see the scale moving again after so long.

What I should be eating on SB as a min. based on 1400 cals/day:

40% carbs-140 grams/day for me
30% fat-46.6 grams/day for me
30% protein-105 grams/day for me


Here is what I ate yesterday:

Tuesday Feb 19th

Breakfast:
apple
triscuits (6)
1 oz light colby cheese

Snack:
organic yogurt
1 tbsp. SF blueberry spread stirred into it
2 oz green pepper

Lunch:
1 piece whole grain rye bread
1/2 tsp butter spread on it
1 oz light colby
1/2 cup chick peas
1/2 cup green beans

Snack: well..afternoon beverage
2 coffee (1/2caf) with cream

Dinner:
T-bone steak (I needed the protein but there is too much fat in it and made me go over my fat for the day-although it was worth it! hehe)
mushrooms
salad & dressing

Snack:
3 dried apricots

Total Carbs:95.99 (was trying for min. 140)
Total Protein:115.77 (was trying for min. 105)
Total Fat:80.82 (was trying for min. 46.6)
Water: 4 litres (16 cups)

So I did pretty good. If it wasn't for that steak I would have been under for my fat count too! The steak was a treat from my hubby so I had to eat it and would do it again in a second.

Obviously the leaner types of meat are better...things like chicken and fish. I would never give up my t-bones though!

Anyways...that is my great SB news!!

Now I am 180/166/154

[Red1]

Hey I'm back. I know I haven't been on the board very long but being away for the past few days I found myself missing all the talk.

Well, my son had a beautiful wedding and now is on his way to Eureka CA where he and his lovely wife(she definately is a keeper) will be going to college for the next 3 years. Oh to be young again. Boy is it hard to have your children leave home. You know they need to get on with their life but it sure is hard.

I have read the postings and I think that perhaps maybe the reason that I am stalled at my current weight is because of the combination of what I eat Carbs/Pro/fat. Is there a easy way to figure out what my husband and I should be eating. I notice a website fitday.com that vesniod mentioned. Will that help?

I didn't gain any weight this weekend with all the cheating that I did but I sure would like to loose some more. I know that I need to exercise and plan to start walking in the evenins this week.

Well, I need to get going and get ready for work. I'll post my weight later.

Hope everyone has a great day.

Oh ya! Where do you all get the cute little dancing figures and stuff. The smiles are cute, but I like the other things too.

Later,
Cyndi

[music teach]

Hi everybody. I've just been lurking this week. It's the end of the 6 weeks and there's just tooooo much to get done. Anyway, I think someone must have cybersneezed my direction. I've got the crud that some of y'all have had recently. One up side to it is that I don't have much of an appetite. I'm still up a couple of pounds, but I know it's from the Valentine candy. I'm trying to get my walking in too, but the weather around here is too crazy. The low yesterday was 65 and this morning it was 40. Go figure TX weather.

Congrats to all the losers. And welcome to the newbies.