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Old 06-21-2015, 08:18 AM   #331  
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Thanks, I read your link about avocados, Carol Sue. Loaded with nutrients and some evidence that it can lower LDL. I like the fact that it has a lot of lutein, which helps prevent macular degeneration. I did a number on my eyes on my 7mo IP diet and now have dry eye, though it could just be age-related. I don't much care for Fuerte--not nearly as much flavor.

That's interesting-- and frustrating--about McDonald's. I think you are onto something now with letting go of night eating.

Chickadeee I've been misspelling your 'name'! I like that pizza topping idea. Sounds like you got loads of exercise at Strawberry Festival.

Jacqui, I'm very happy if I motivated you yesterday! Great that it made you feel good too, and that the universe rewarded you at the auction! Sounds like a great day was had by all.

Yesterday was good eating except too much tasting while I cooked for the week. Scale up to 170. I didn't exercise hard enough to say that is water retention, so it's likely post Carb Day-related, or from increasing legumes. That should motivate me to exercise and eat on plan this week. I'm ready! I have to say I like how I feel, even though a little too heavy. Instead of that listless, hungry feeling from calorie restriction, I feel energetic.

Gym today, too, though I'll have to wait for 830 opening.

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B omelet with tapenade, veggies, whey shake
L cabbage salad with beans, chicken, evoo
D ground turkey, beans, salad
S cabbage, evoo, Quest powder tasting, a lot of coffee with WF creamer, ground turkey

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I don't think legumes should increase weight because I have heard that they combine with other food and sweep it through your digestive system. I have not tested that theory, though. Although they have a lot of carbs they do not act like other carbs.

EDIT: I am referring to testing the no weight gain theory, not the sweeping through the digestive tract. LOL

I am surprised that you had so many problems with IP. I thought that was supposed to be a very healthy way to eat.

DH just decided we are going to the casino today. I didn't want to go, but he can be relentless in his nagging and he wore me down. It's going to be crowded with so many people bringing Dad for Father's Day. The only good thing about it is the free buffet, which will probably be crowded.

So far today I had

B eggs and sausage

I will have no lunch, because I will eat a lot at the buffet. I choose low carb items, but it's still a lot of calories.

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Carol Sue, "white" carbs like white bread, white rice, white pasta, and white potatoes are the "worst" quick carbs you can have. In fact, you'd think the measure for the glycemic index would be based on a spoonful of sugar but it's not. It's a piece of white bread. Is your pasta white or whole grain? I'm asking because you may rarely have sweets, but you love your pasta! And yes, my RA is extremely bothered by the weather, too hot, too cold, too damp, or too humid! It I could live in a nice 70 degrees all the time, it'd be great! But I swear Ohio is the most up and down state, weather-wise, in the whole US! As for leaky gut, I've heard it may be the source for all the autoimmune disorders. Anything we can do to try to correct that, we should work toward. That's why I've decided to incorporate coconut oil, ACV, and yogurt. They are supposed to help straighten out the gut flora. Drinking plenty of water and moderately exercising are supposed to help also. (Too little or too much exercise is not good for it.) I'm going to start taking a supplemental probiotic too. Since I take so many other vitamins and minerals now, what's one more pill to add?! It's all very interesting! I do hope the ACV helps your psoriasis! Yes, I imagine Atkins people would be totally against our Carb Day because it would take them out of ketosis. The way I figure it, everyone has to find the diet plan that works best for them, and this by far works best for me!

Mars, I've often wondered about the legumes/water thing too. I haven't noticed them causing me to hold water, even though I always think they will, so I don't know. I do know that if you don't drink enough water, especially if you exercise, your body will hold onto water. Have you had enough?

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Old 06-21-2015, 10:25 AM   #334  
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I only went up a lb after Carb Day!

Week 5: High 206.5, Low 204.5
5/31--(202.5) 206 Carb Day
6/1--(203) 206.5
6/2--(202.5) 206
6/3--(202) 205.5
6/4--(201) 204.5
6/5--204.5
6/6--205.5 Carb Day
Week 6: High 206.5, Low 204.5
6/7--206
6/8--206.5
6/9--205.5
6/10--206.5
6/11--205.5
6/12--204.5
6/13--204.5 Carb Day
Week 7: High 205, Low 201
6/14--204.5
6/15--205
6/16--203.5
6/17--202
6/18--201.5
6/19--201
6/20--201 Carb Day
Week 8:
6/21--202
6/22--
6/23--
6/24--
6/25--
6/26--
6/27--

Today's Meals:
Brunch: 11:30 @ IHOP
Spinach, mushroom, and cheese omelet
2 slices of bacon
Water

Snack:
Pecans

Dinner:
2 BBQ Ribs
Baked beans
Water

Late Night Snack: <<<---Not good!
3 more BBQ ribs

Today's Exercise:
1-mile walk around the track and 3 miles on the recumbent bike

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Sounds like you have a good plan, CarolSue--that's half the battle with a buffet! Do you feel ok when you skip lunch?

I'm not going to lower my legumes, but will really put a lid on random snacking. I threw out the Quest powder finally. It's protein, but sweetened, and there's just no reason to have it around beckoning.

re IP, it has it's pros and cons. The good is that for people with a lot of weight to lose, it gets quick results so you get to goal before diet burnout. it's nutritionally sound except for the fact that it's so low in calories <1000 (& fiber). Many people experience intense cravings after phasing off, which is a normal reaction after <1000 cal dieting. So there is some bingeing followed by compensatory restriction, and so the yoyoing begins. Some people also become hypothyroid, and vitamin-depleted--you can't absorb vitamin supplements without adequate fat & calories apparently.

Jacqui Yayyy for the goodscale! I think I drank enough water--2 liters as usual. I'm not sure if this is water weight or real poundage. I have to trust that if I stick t the plan, the weight will take care of itself. I like how I feel compared to last week's fatigue. Getting out of complacent mode will help get me to the gym. Maybe the scale is just telling me I need to commit to a non-sugar Carb Day.

I was on my back for almost 4 weeks with a work injury in Dec. and I know I lost muscle mass. Definitely time to muscle up. Thanks to this diet, I actually FEEL like moving, now.

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Today:

B: Went out for bkft, bacon and egg omelet, coffee
L: Ham and cheese with side salad
D: Rotisserie Chicken, veggies and salad.
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I like summer solstice even more than Carb Day, if that's possible! I walked 25 minute outside in a walking course along some nice wetlands. Once I got home, realized it didn't feel like enough of a workout so went back to the gym and walked 2o min on treadmill & ab curls. It made me hungry, but that should resolve as I adapt.

B Veg omelet and whey shake
L ground turkey, kidney beans, avocado, cabbage
S whey shake and chicken
D will be salad w beans, other half of large avo, maybe a little more chicken
Upping my water intake (honey/lavender herbal tea--no honey in it)

I'm adding sauerkraut to my omelet from now on instead of tapenade. Sticking a bit closer to Tim Ferriss for now.

Hope everyone is enjoying the long daylight!

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Need to get in more veggies, for dinner I did a veggie stir fry, kale, spinach, yellow pepper, onion, boc choy, tomato, garlic, olive oil, pepper, It was very good. Enough left over for a few meals.

I love stuff like this, you can really taste the actual veggies.
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This morning I was reading an article in Health Magazine about diabetes. It was not anything I didn't already know, but it reminded me that I need to eat smaller meals and get back to exercising. Big meals raise blood sugar even if there are not carbs involved, and exercise lowers it.

Chickadeee, I like to be able to taste the vegetables, too. Don't usually like anything on them except a bit of salt.

Jacqui, my pasta is white pasta because that's what DH eats. I eat angel hair and have read that it is very close to the GI of wheat pasta because it's so thin. And since I don't eat it often, I don't worry about it. A couple times I bought wheat pasta and one time tried a Barilla that was said to have more fiber, but to me, it wasn't different enough to justify the extra cost. I guess there's too many things I just don't worry about and that's why I struggle. Maybe all the little things I ignore are enough to cause me problems.

Mars, I read somewhere that if exercise makes you hungry, then you exercised too hard. I think what that really means is you used up all the glucose that was in your body and that's believable since you're eating low carb. As a diabetic, we're told to eat a snack before exercising so we don't use up all our glucose, and get a hypo.

I think I am OK skipping lunch because my breakfast was late and we eat dinner very early. It was around 3:45 when we got to the buffet. We had stopped at my step-son's on the way and I had a small glass of wine and a piece of provolone cheese, so that was a little snack.

Did you buy the IP food? I think some people do and some don't. I never paid a lot of attention to that plan because I don't want to be buying special food and I don't think I could stick to it strict enough to be effective. Right now I'm thinking that I'm incapable of doing anything that's effective.
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B omelet/mushrooms, onion, asparagus, sauerkraut. Whey shake/coffee
L will be salad, kidney beans, chicken, 2.5oz avocado, evoo
D cabbage,scallions, carrots topped with chicken and avo 2.5 oz, drizzle of evoo & soy sauce.
S whey shake, BBQ soy nuts
Exercise will be some stepping in place before work, steps at work, and if I'm feeling up for it, gym after work--long shift today so I'm not committing.

Scale up a bit, 169.6 Daily weighing helps me stay on track, but as far as making diet changes, I'll just pay attention to weekly trend. So the avocado stays I feel more energetic & better-fed than I have in a long time.
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I knew today's weigh-in wouldn't be good. I was a little stressed all day yesterday, and I ate BBQ ribs late last night! In fact, my whole eating schedule was messed up yesterday. I don't do brunch well, lol! I need my separate breakfast and lunch! And then I had an omelet for breakfast at IHOP yesterday and afterwards found out they add pancake batter to their omelets! If I had wanted pancake batter, I would have ordered pancakes. So between pancake batter and BBQ sauce (which I do allow, but not a good idea late at night!), I was bound to be holding more water today! I am feeling stressed again this morning but today is going to be a better eating day!

Week 5: High 206.5, Low 204.5
5/31--(202.5) 206 Carb Day
6/1--(203) 206.5
6/2--(202.5) 206
6/3--(202) 205.5
6/4--(201) 204.5
6/5--204.5
6/6--205.5 Carb Day
Week 6: High 206.5, Low 204.5
6/7--206
6/8--206.5
6/9--205.5
6/10--206.5
6/11--205.5
6/12--204.5
6/13--204.5 Carb Day
Week 7: High 205, Low 201
6/14--204.5
6/15--205
6/16--203.5
6/17--202
6/18--201.5
6/19--201
6/20--201 Carb Day
Week 8:
6/21--202
6/22--202.5
6/23--
6/24--
6/25--
6/26--
6/27--

Today's Meals:
Breakfast:
2 eggs fried in coconut oil
2 slices of bacon
Water

Lunch:
2 hotdogs
Leftover baked beans
Water

Snack:

Dinner:
Fish
Green beans with coconut oil
Water

Today's Exercise: (Open-swim pool times weren't good for DH, so he wanted to go out to the walk park.)
1.2-mile walk at the walk park

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Carol Sue I feel like my appetite gets triggered by anything these days, even someone else in the room merely thinking about food, lol. I don't think my workout was that strenuous but I like the idea, heh heh.

I did buy all the IP food. i had not found 3FC and had no idea there were alternatives. But it was worth it because everything was so simple. IP is a little too cookie cutter, though. If I had known to plan extra food on my long work days, I would have lost faster and felt better. As for maintenance, IP is useless, imo and that is why so many people regain. All in all, I'm very thankful that it worked as well as it did.

Ketogenic diets are for getting weight off fast and can be great for diabetes. I think the magic number of net carbs is below 50, but everyone is a little different. The key, imho, is to find the lowest tolerable carb WOE that avoids low mood or deprivation. (For me, it seems to be above that ketogenic level, dang. My brain will not run well on as low carb as it takes to suppress appetite. I've proven it to myself a several times since IP).

My internist made an offhand remark about ketogenic diets that was illuminating: ketosis suppresses hunger and, as he put it, produces mild euphoria. That's the magic that allows people to stick to it and lose weight. Calorie for calorie, it doesn't burn any faster than any other diet.

Carol Sue You are getting results from lowering your carbs and not snacking at night. Keep on believing! It might take a while for everything to register in labs and scale because this is not an extreme diet. But at least there isn't that Mantenance landmine at the end; we are already eating for maintenance.

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Jacqui That wt will come off fast, and all told, it's not much of an uptick. Pancake batter in IHOP????? That's egregious--thanks for the warning. I'll be sure to ask them to leave it out.

Your mind was mostly on plan, and that matters. I think there is a good reason Tim Ferriss says to eat the same everyday, but life happens. I've been stewing about this a little--'what do I do when there are occasions on both Sat & Sun?' I think I would move if there were such a thing as a Low Carb Community! I hope you didn't beat yourself up about the BBQ---they say it's best not to add any extra angst and just get back on plan. That's worked for me, in fact I hope you enjoyed every bite.

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Mars, I did ketogenic as maintenance when I lost weight the first time, but didn't know what ketogenic was. I just ate mostly protein. Now, I just feel that I'm missing too many nutrients by not having lots of vegetables. No diabetic educator would actually recommend a ketogenic diet. While I agree with them that's it's not healthy to completely eliminate any food group, it's a rare diabetic or overweight person who doesn't overeat when carbs come into play. If I could eat the way they suggest, I would lose weight and have good blood sugar, but starchy carbs are like a drug to me. Once I start, I can't stop. And I don't think I'm alone.

Unfortunately, I have not been sticking to my "no evening snacking" the past few days, and that's why I have not been listing my menu. I'm somewhat out of control again. I am losing my control and I have to get it back. Tomorrow, because I already blew today. I do not feel good about this, but thanks for the pep talk!
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Today:

B: Eggs, coffee
S: Radishes, cheese
L: Ham roll up
S: Yogurt w/nuts
D: Fried radishes, cold chicken, salad.
(my DH thought these were little red potatoes, very tasty)
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