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Old 10-03-2006, 08:18 PM   #166  
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Obsidianbbw, congratulations on moving. It is such a stressor! We moved a few months ago and I am still not over it. I don't know if you just went through the whole sell/buy process, but we did and it was horrible. And then, of course, the actual moving of stuff. Ugh!

I only did the buying part and I can't imagine doing selling and buying at the time same time. My realtor said my deal was pretty simple but it just seemed horrible to me. Really wanted to give up in the middle, but happy I didn't. I closed a month later than I was supposed to which meant I had only 4 days to move. I had planned on 30. Anyway I'm here now and very happy.

Eating today was a little wacky, at a cinnamon role because I wanted something in my mouth not out of hunger...Then had a nice size lunch (we were celebrating my moving into the condo and I got a lil tipsy so was more concerned with sobering up for work than how satisfied I was. I manager to be ok at work...lots and lots of glasses of water LOL).

Also I was in starbucks when I grabbed the cinnamon role and I grabbed a carton of milk as well. I said it was organic milk so I figured all the better....they added vanilla flavoring to it and all I could think was it was the worst stuff I ever tasted. I don't have a big sweet tooth...blah all I could think was give me the processed stuff.
No desire for dinner
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Old 10-04-2006, 12:40 AM   #167  
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I hope you all don't mind that I post a lot. I am online a lot and so I switch between sites several times a day.

Obsidian, there is a list somewhere of life events that cause stress. Moving is a major one, near the top of the list.

I was wondering if you finished the nasty milk from Starbucks or if you threw it away. I get a certain amount of "intentional" joy from throwing things away if I don't like them but I don't think I have fully gotten over the feeling of wastefulness. Also, I haven't yet gotten over the "rejecting food is rejecting who made it" dumb thinking.
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Wiffle, we don't mind you posting at all! Kay, my hubby was a wrestler in college, too, and he did the same.......starving to cut weight. We were just talking about it last night. He once had to cut 13lb in 2 days so he didn't eat or drink for those 2 days. After wrestling was over in the spring he gained 30lb. He has never been more than about 30lb overweight in his 58 yr but he is a semiinutitive eater. He eats what he wants when he is hungry but has the diet mindset in the back of his mind so I think that's why he is not thin. I, on the other hand have been dieting ever since the birth of my first child 35 yr. ago.
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Old 10-04-2006, 11:34 AM   #169  
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I get a certain amount of "intentional" joy from throwing things away if I don't like them but I don't think I have fully gotten over the feeling of wastefulness.
I have finally realized that the wastefulness occurs at the point in time that I bought/prepared the product, not when I make the decision whether to eat it or throw it away. I never eat something just to keep from "wasting" it. My body isn't a garbage disposal.
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Here is another interesting article, author Nancy Hill.

Stop dieting and start living

According the National Eating Disorders Association,
the annual amount spent on dieting is over $40 billion
per year. Other sources put the figure at more than
$50 billion.

The diet industry obviously has very good reasons to
keep us hopeful and desperate to lose weight. Much of
what is reported as "scientific research" is actually
bought and paid for by diet companies and the
pharmaceutical industry.

These days there are two distinct groups within the
obesity research field:

~ Traditionalists
Those who favor the old ways of cutting intake with
restrictive dieting, diet pills, or surgery.
Researchers in this camp openly acknowledge that diets
do not work in the long-term. They acknowledge that
diets cause many side effects including weight gain.
However, they are funded by the diet industry. These
researchers' salaries are dependent on promoting
dieting or drugs.

~ Anti-diet
Independent anti-diet researchers have come to the
conclusion that diets do more harm than good. They are
the leading edge of studying how, and why, to get out
of the vicious diet cycle we've ended up in.

As Benjamin Franklin put it, "The definition of insanity
is doing the same thing over and over and expecting
different results."

As dieters, we've been brainwashed
~ We've trusted authority.
~ We've blamed ourselves for failing.
~ We've worked hard.
~ But we haven't been working on good information.

Our pockets have been thoroughly picked. And we've been
lied to.

It's time to return to childhood. When we were children
we knew how to eat. We knew how to stop. We knew how to
move our bodies and have fun. All that wisdom lives
within us still...it's just been distorted by the
effects of dieting.

If you're reading this email, you're on the cutting
edge of a growing movement in America. Clearly diets
don't work. It has taken us a lot of experimenting to
reach that conclusion.

As you return to your natural state of normal eating
you will be leading the way for others to heal as well.
Spread the word.

Every one of us has so much potential. It's time to
redirect all that wasted dieting energy and money to
endeavors that have real meaning and true worth in the
world.
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Hey everyone ! Just wanted to check in with you all to see how you were doing. I'm doing well. It's funny my body seems to be maintaining at around 135 lb. I guess that's where I'm suppose to be. I'm still using the IE method of things even though I have to track stuff for my health. I finally finish The Overfed head (TWICE) and I recommend it to anyone on the board. It's great.

Ok, got to run just wanted to say hi and hope everyone is doing well.

Lots of love to you all!
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I was wondering if you finished the nasty milk from Starbucks or if you threw it away. I get a certain amount of "intentional" joy from throwing things away if I don't like them but I don't think I have fully gotten over the feeling of wastefulness. Also, I haven't yet gotten over the "rejecting food is rejecting who made it" dumb thinking.
I took a few more sips I really wanted some milk, but ended up throwing it away. I try and stick to the only take/cook/buy what I am going to eat so I tend not to throw away much and figure I can always go back.

I don't like throwing stuff out...I am also a clean plate person so it is a little hard, but I am happier in terms of food than I have been in a long while and it has only been a month.....
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Ladybug, I noticed you lost 75lb on WW. You must think pretty highly of that program.
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Hi All,

I am new to this site. I have read IE thread #1 and now #2. I am so proud of all of you!!! You girls have done a great job. I read the Overfed head about 3 weeks ago and decided to ditch my diet and start IE. I have been doing pretty good so far, I've lost about 5 lbs in 3 weeks!

It is a learning process, but so far so good!

I hope to participate in the discussions and get to know all of you better!
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Ladybug, I noticed you lost 75lb on WW. You must think pretty highly of that program.

I do like that program alot, and yes I did loose 75 lbs. on it. I have about 10 more to go until I'm back at my goal weight. I've been doing it for so long that it has become second nature but after a while you just need something else to shake things up. That's where IE came in for me. I love the whole idea of it and it's help kick start my weigh loss again. I realize now that if I have a day that I ate more then usual - I was probably hungry for that much and the next day will balance itself out. I don't beat myself up any more over it and I've become a much happier and less stressed out person as far as food goes. I always have and idea of what I"m eating and how much is a portion - that I learned from weight watchers - but eating when I'm hungry and stopping when hunger disapears and truely being able to recognize those things is something IE re-taught me. I do still sometimes track what I'm eating but I incorporate IE with it. and it's working for me.
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Ditchyoudiet, Glad to have you here. We are all very much still learning as we have been dieting for years (me personally it has been 30+yr.... I am 57) and that is sometimes hard to get out of your system. Recently I came up with the idea of having the things I like handy so as not to eat things I don't like or that are not what I need. Some of my favorites that I just made yesterday are fruit smoothies that are 100% fruit and homemade vegetable soup. Had a good day yesterday except that I made pizza for company and rather than make something extra for myself, I ate it and I know I shouldn't be eating calcium (I have trouble with high blood calcium). I have been surprised that there is so much info on the net on IE. Thanks for your story, Ladybug.
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Suppose I should report in even though things are slow. Yesterday was a trying day eating wise. We went shopping and ate out and then to top it off I ordered a coffee chiller in the afternoon that didn't even taste good. You think at $3.85 for a small I would throw it out? Not me! My daughter always gets those but her's tasted better. Maybe it was just the camarderie of the thing. So for supper I ate mostly fruits and vegetables because we had company and I didn't want to sit down and not eat. My 16 yr. old daughter (the youngest of 10) ALWAYS wants so go shopping and I just sort of lost my zeal for shopping after all those kids. Hey, when you can get it on line why spend all that time running around? But she is a sweetie and I do like doing things with her so am torn. Hope someone starts posting again.
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Maybe this thread will be coming to an end. I have been really discouraged myself and very hungry lately. Last night my dh was making cookies and the smell was so inticing. I ate 2 and had a stomach ache in the middle of the night. Makes me wonder if I should have eaten them. Was I hungry? I suppose not.
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Hope you don't end the thread.
Today just sucked.....I just ate whenever. Will re-group tomorrow and monday back to my excercisng. Now that the moving and everything has settled down I am going to refocus. Hope everyone else is doing well.
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Remember not to beat yourself up if you have an off day (I've been reading alot of posts like that). It's not the end of the world (although sometimes it can feel like it). If you overeat on one meal you can just get back on track at that moment and choose not to eat until you are hungry for you next meal. That's the beauty of IE. Even if you have a total day that is off - don't worry. When I have an off day instead of beating myself up (I did enough of that while dieting..) before I fall asleep at night I read something to inspire me or listen to an inspiring tape to help put me back in the right mind set.

Remember also it's all progress not perfection. You can't be perfect and eat the perfect foods or the perfect amount all the time - it is a learning process (I am still learning myself).

So, instead of beating yourself up on a bad day - do something loving for yourself - possitve reinforcement is much more effective the negative.

Hope this inspires you!
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