What a great post, Button!

Hi,
I've been lurking on 3FC off and on for several months. I'm so glad I found this thread.

I've owned "Intuitive Eating" for 10 years and have read it several times, but I've only actually had success with it once. I lost 10 lbs. by eating intuitively, I felt great, and then I went on vacation, and while I was able to keep eating intuitively on vacation, it all went out the window when I got back. Now I weigh about 50 lbs more, and I feel awful.

So, I'm going to pull out "Intuitive Eating" again, and give it another try. I really feel it is the most sensible and natural way to eat.

Does anyone have any recommendations of other books I should read?

Thanks,
Nickole

Question: When was the moment that you FIRST started getting concerned about your weight?

Mine was:

3 months after I had my second child, I went to vist my mother. She looked at me and said "Wow you really have gotten fat, you need to do something about that", I told her "I just had a baby and Im nursing", her response was "Yes, but you look terrible and really need to do something about your weight, your rear-end is HUGE, and you really look awful".

Now understand, my mom has always been about how things look. I had a facial deformity as a child that was corrected in my teens, and until it was corrected, she was embarassed of me. At the time she said this, I had only had her approval for a few short years. I won the Young Authors Conference in my state when I was 12 (hard to believe with all my run-on sentances huh) and she refused to have her picture taken with me for the newspaper...for fear that someone she knew would know that I was her child. When she said this, I hadnt been too concerned about my weight, Id gained about the same with my first child, and it had come off for the most part after a few months (my boobs were bigger, and I had hips, but I still looked good and felt good in my clothes). This time the weight never came off on its own, and I started hating how i looked all the time. I started the whole "im not going eat anything but salad for a month" mentality, and then hating myself because my body just wanted more nutrients than that, then just stuffing it in because I was a fat cow anyway.

I was just thinking about this this morning, and it really pinpoints the exact moment that I started unhealthy abnormal behaviors about food.

So heres to my mom and how I should have responded "Mom, gaining weight after having a child is normal, and even if it never comes off...so what, Im still in a very healthy weight range. You on the other hand drink a quart of vodka a week, and look like crap for your age. You look like crap because you are a mean, bitter woman, and as you have gotten older, it has come out on your face and you LOOK like a mean and bitter woman. Id rather have a few lbs, than frown and scowl lines. Id rather treat my children with respect and love regardless of what they look like, than sit around pissed off because they are not "perfect" and be embarrassed because of something so superficial as their looks. I want my children to want to talk to me and spend time with me, instead of dreading it. Shame on you for failing to build your child up and succeeding so well in tearing her down. I would rather have a flawed body, than a flawed soul."

Enjoying reading all the posts so much but I was hoping that we could all refrain from using %@# words when posting. It's just kind of hard on the soul. Still working on hunger and fullness here. I finally finished Intuitive Eating by Evelyn Triboble and Elyse ???? I thought it was a good book but you could see that the nutritionist angle comes out kind of strong.

Nickole, The Overfed Head is the best book I have read on the subject of IE.

Okay no more potty mouth

me too

Well at least you can say we're passionate about what we believe in

Well yesterday was ok. I think I was trying to over compensate for Hash-Gate O6 so I ended up with 3 meals and 1 snack. Still did ok, and way more conscious about the good and bad foods. Find myself eating more vegetables and fruit.

One other sort of upside...I used to go to buffets and darn (see I can be good) near drool over all the food I could have.

So Yesterday afternoon I went to the buffet and just kinda really took a look at everything and just wasn't as excited. Then for my later meal (I was doing the late shift) I went to the wholefood supermarket which also has a buffet and just wasn't interested in much of it. I also have developed and aversion for things that look like lots of oily saucy stuff with bits of meat in it. I just think it is a big vat of badness.

Anyway, A question I was wondering. What other threads do people belong to? I do a walk away the pounds thread, a weekly challenge, and a walk challenge (100 miles in 4 months). Most of it is for accountability and a way to track my progress with the excercise.

There are some others I subscribe to, but I only lurk in those.

-Obie

Thanks, girls, I appreciate it. I just read here and don't get anything on email. I do that with all the sites I visit. I usually press "new posts" and see what they are saying. Aussie chicks is interesting and Summer Sass Plan though I don't often post. As for exercise, I have walked as much as 6mi a day and not lost anything. I think exercise is great for fitness but not for weight loss. I find Lilybelle's posts very encouraging even though she is on modified Atkins. She has lost over 90lb and takes prednisone!!!!!!! Now that is QUITE and accomplishment.

This was on the old thread..posting it over here

Hi everyone!

Hope you are all doing well.

I"m not doing to bad - I have hit a little speed bump in my progress - I found myself starting to over eat again. So, I figured I need a little bit of hand holding until I get the process down.

I'm actually, after I've rated my hunger (that I actually am hungry), trying to choose mostly whole foods like on the WW Core list and trying to get a handle on a decent portion size and to hit the mark that I am comfortable and not slightly full or higher. I'm definately not depriving myself of anything I really truley want - but I'm trying to be more aware of the type of food I'm eating especially since I also have to watch my sodium.

Has anyone else found they needed to use IE with information from another program? And has this helped you?

Would love to hear some feedback/advice on this one.

i starte ie yesterday and feel so good and now notive that i have to eat. but i have a question. how much weight did you lose on the first week of ie? one more q... is diet soda ok?

Hmmm...

I think I've been doing intuitive eating while also keeping track of calories on fitday. Prior to about 5 or 6 days ago, I was eating 3 times per day to satisfaction, only when hungry, and this was an average of 1200 calories per day. Now whether this happened because my computer was in the shop for a few days and I couldn't get online or because I just decided I wanted to increase my calorie intake, I started eating a couple of slices of whole wheat bread with dinner. I think it was probably a combination of both.

I'm not trying to lose weight, and just want to maintain, and I was basically maintaining or rarely unintentionally losing very slowly on around 1200 a day. Since it seems like others eat more and maintain, I've been justifying to myself stuffing the extra bread down with dinner. The thing is, when I eat the bread, it's definitely not intuitive eating...when I wasn't eating the bread, I was perfectly satisfied with the dinner I was eating. I was full and didn't feel a need to eat more.

So, where do you draw the line with intuitive eating? I feel like I'm overeating when I eat the bread (and it does taste good), but is it necessary ignore the signals and overeat a little to take in more calories?

Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks!

Tara,
I argue with myself sometimes about proper calorie intake vs IE. Sometimes when you don't take in enough calories, you can't lose weight. On the other hand, IE says that it doesn't matter how much or when you eat, your body will get what it needs. I think it is good to use IE to get control of emotional eating, binging, to try to get away from the extremes. When you have those undercontrol, it will be easier to make food decisions that are based on nutritionality. You can decide to eat that extra piece of bread to get your fiber or whatever. I think it is somewhat of a fine line. Okay, it is really a gray area!!
I have found that now that food is not an obsession, when I plan my meals I am focusing more on nutritional balance because I want to. I don't feel that great pressure of good vs. bad. Like Obie said- I too have started to get grossed out when I see things that look like a sea of grease. It's a nice feeling instead of wanting to eat that stuff!

I had an arguement with myself on this same subject, but my issue was that I noticed that my caloric intate was very low for the day. What I decided for myself was that overeating (eating past the sensation of satisfied) was not ok, and if I wasnt hungry dont eat. Toddlers and children self regulate very well....one day they eat you out of house and home, next day they have a glass of milk and 1/4 of a sandwich all day. I really think that IE, like every other eating plan out there, is something that you have to work out yourself and adjust to your own comfort.