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Originally Posted by Viking_Jim
My first time entering this thread, and I am glad I found it.
My story is that I am about 8 weeks OP and have lost around 40 lbs. This week I seem to be losing and gaining the same one pound, so a little frustrating.
I was divorced 8 years ago and gained about 60 lbs in that time frame. Until reading this thread I never got the idea that there may have been a connection between divorce and weight gain, and it's staring to make me wonder if there isn't.
I'm happy so far with IP, but not thrilled. My goal is to get to 180, which would be a full 100 lbs lost, with a desire to get to 200 by end of April.
I am re-motivated by seeing some of your photos and reading your stories, so thanks very much for that.
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I have waited till I had some time to give you my $.02 and it may not be worth that.
This is a lot of information to chew on. Buried in my ADHD typing is many questions. I also know my typing can be very confusing to read. I apologize upfront for eyes bleeding.
Many things could be going on some of it may have ZERO to do with diet.
Water may or may not be part of it. Personally I never had issue losing the weight when not getting the water recommended. It helps & definitely doesn't hurt, but for me I didn't sweat it. haha i made funny. My first IP go around I calculated my weekly average weight loss @ over 8# each week all the way till I stopped after 89#. I kept my records. I have blood work over a decade old, I just kind of a nerd that way. Personally I think the water is used to keep a person busy and the stomach constantly getting a sensation of something in it. After years in military with only 2 canteens on your LBE water intake per day on long rucks for me it isn't largely relative. But get it in if possible, it will only help. On a funny note, I believe it was Arnold Schwarzenegger who made fun of gym rats who have to suck down water while working out. The body can go hours without it even during long periods of expenditure. It just uncomfortable.
In 8 weeks you most definitely had a dietary adaptation to a degree. Research shows dietary adaptation starts to happen in less than a month without an adjustment of some kind. It is a rule of thermodynamics. Yes not all calories are metabolized the same way, but physics still applies in the end. Contrary to what people think, you don't want your body to get (efficient) adapted to ketosis and low calorie. Lets think about it efficient means it runs well without wasted energy. When burning fat you want to be a ford galaxy gas guzzler not an efficient Honda Accord just replace Ketones to gasoline. See what I am saying. You want 8 miles to a gallon not 30. You still get to your destination easily, it just cost you more gas (ketones) to get there. Think about old carburated engines how you can smell free gas in the exhaust vs fuel injection. gas in the exhaust is ketone waste expenditure. Make sense?
The body wants homeostasis and will do whatever that entails to achieve. Your body will steal energy from all the systems and organs to support itself including your bones. It may even down regulate systems. Remember you are starving you body (hypo caloric) despite how you feel or people claim. Burning fat is a result of starvation. Your body will fight you to have a neutral or stored energy balance not a loss of energy. Energy being comprised of body tissues in this reference. It can even shutdown certain elements to achieve the balance it wants. Dietary systematic and planned disruptions, keep the body from adapting and stabilizing to a feast or famine (in IP case) dietary position. (AKA your metabolism) will reduce even with similar LBM.
Dropping a packet will drop roughly 100 cal + out of your day total. That is nearly a 10% reduction in total calories for a day. Based on basic averages. That should help troubleshoot and if you are in decent state of ketosis you won't even miss it after the first day or two. How much restricted foods/ packets are you getting? I use 3 packets without problem and many times I have to remind myself the get the 3rd one in. I get zero restricted IP products. Not worth it, I am knocking this baby out. Honestly if the 4th packet is what stalled you out it is no question you had a down regulation and adaptation.
Your weight hasn't dropped, but what have your measurements done? What about your LBM? How is your energy? Your cognitive function? Has your sleep improved?
Are you testing ketosis? Yeah don't get to hung up on, right? But honestly if you aren't flagging a keto stick you are AT BEST marginally in ketosis. We can do better than marginal. Especially men tend to havea higher % LBM density than women have. That is like having a gas guzzling v8 vs v6. It should be pretty easy to get into a small excess to medium excess on a keto measuring stick. Without exercise you can even get large and maintain excess keto waste. It may take some learning but it very capable. Again the car comparison, burn that gas inefficiently. If you cant getting waste ketones up that means your body is getting glucose from somewhere. Carbs, excess protein intake, or lastly muscle tissue itself. A ketone is an inefficient fuel for energy. At higher than sedentary levels of activity you should easily have them in excess. Your body can/ will feel good in ketosis but that is different than efficient energy pathways. What is your carbs gram intake total minus fibers? you may be like me and getting over 30 - 50 grams a day is enough to stop ketosis. If your LBM is holding I wouldn't add protein, add a teaspoon of coconut oil to morning coffee roughly 3 grams of fat or 30 calories. maybe work up to a tablespoon. and if your concerned about protocol just remove that measure as part of your allotted oils in the program. Dont do a TBSP off the bat. You will lose weight because it a massive diuretic if you aren't used to it.
Honestly at a starting weight of 280# your maintenance calories by normal calculators should be over 3k a day so even consuming 1200 calories or so is a huge dietary deficit.
What is your sleep like? If you aren't rocking a good deep sleep that could be a stalling effect. Here a podcast done by an ex navy seal turned doctor treating special warfare clients mostly on sleep issues. And not getting proper sleep is huge. In this podcast he talks about people losing 30# or more just by getting into proper sleep. No dietary changes.
http://daily.barbellshrugged.com/1-q...y-episode-113/
Check out this handout from Gaury Taubes. It has some great information and it almost a cliff notes to his book. 'Why we get fat, and what to do about it.'
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...-Fat-Bonus.pdf
If you are that type that does well on low carb (not everybody does). IP will shed the weight like a sauna suit when you figure out the issues and learn manipulations. Hopefully you have a coach that understands the biology and mechanism that happen. Mine 1st coach wasn't but I am very read on all kinds of low carb approaches. I constantly would get the 'Its like magic" answer when I asked question.
This is a lot of information to chew on. Buried in my ADHD typing is many questions. I also know my typing can be very confusing to read.
Don't bail on IP till you learn to tweak your entire lifestyle - food, sleep, meditation, exercise. It is all connected.
. After all, we think about what we are going to wear every day, what jacket & shoes to put on for the weather, etc. It's just another way of keeping yourself healthy.
