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pattygirl63 10-18-2021 02:36 AM

I ended up with a lot of calories within 1500 max but I did manage to stay within a 6 hr eating window. I didn't have enough pork for bother of us to have and I had made my beef veggie soup so I had soup and salad dinner so I didn't eat anything else so just a 2MAD today.

Carol Sue I wake up with my hip or back hurting sometime. As a matter of fact, I woke up with it this morning, but by the time I showered and dressed it was gone. I think mine was caused by the way I laid.

I just realized how late it is so I'm going to bed hoping I can sleep.

Good night.

fatmad 10-18-2021 07:32 AM

Hi friends: figured I will post then go back and read your recent posts.
I am doing ok. I am 160 after my fast. I have been managing a fast every other day. Yesterday I was 162 after eating the day before, so thats my new "unfasted" weight down from 165 a couple of weeks ago. I have yet to see the 150s fasted or not. I guess thats for later this week.
Still walking lots, although the fasting is affecting that, not because I can't walk when fasting, but that it has been causing me a lot of bowel issues. I have been trying to figure it all out. I have stopped the magnesium citrate and have reduced the metformin on fasting days. But I seriously can't leave the house some mornings because I don't know when I might have to go. DH takes the dog out those mornings and I do a big walk with him in the afternoon, but this is a small problem and I continue to look for a solution. I am delaying the morning meds on fasting days as well and will see if that helps.

Hope everyone is well. TTFN

Wannabehealthy 10-18-2021 11:19 AM

I have skipped the scale for 5 days in a row so decided it was time. 187.6, up 2.2 lbs. I think I was higher at some point. I'm disappointed that I have relapsed but life goes on. I will deal with it.

Mad, I think its noteworthy that we all get the same issues when we fast. That does contribute to weight loss. I have read about it online but not what actually causes it or how to stop it. I blame mine on taking Metformin without food but I'm not sure if that's it. Trish does not take Metformin and I don't know if Berberine could do the same thing. I get it occasionally when I'm not fasting. I did not get it when I was eating high fiber. I got the opposite.

I ended up eating at 11:15, scrambled eggs and a small piece of sausage patty. I am still only eating a 1-bite size piece of DHs sausage. He only buys it several times a year. I like to taste it but otherwise its too salty and greasy for me. One bite is enough to satisfy me. Not more than an overnight fast though, maybe 12 hours. That's ok. I was starting to get hungry and thats my sign to eat. DH has become accustomed to me not eating until at least 11 and doesn't cook until then, and he asks if I want them! Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks!! He only eats a little bit, though. He will probably still make lunch. He loves those Pastaroni boxes. I like them too but need to stop eating it with him. I will not be hungry that soon.

I don't know what we will be eating for dinner. I want him to decide.
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pattygirl63 10-18-2021 02:19 PM

Fatmad Glad you posted and also thank you for sharing your experience. It helps to see how and what others are experiencing as it helps to know me on my journey. I hope you can resolve you potty issues. I've been having the same problem. Not always diarrhea but definitely determines where I can go and when because when the urge hits I better be near a bathroom. Glad your weight is coming off again although not necessarily as fast as you would like. I finally decided that down is down and that is good for someone like me who seems to lose like slow moving turtle these days.

Carol Sue remember 187,6 lbs still isn't 190s so you are doing good. You will get it figured out and get back into your routine. Congrats on DH changes. It is nice that he still can feel that he is taking care of you but more on your terms.

Yes, we all do seem to have the potty issues. I never related mine to the fasting mainly because I seem to get it after I eat not while fasting. I've given up the night shade tomatoes to see if they are problem although I never ate many of them any way. Plus I have had problems with cabbage in the past so seldom buy it. And I have switched to almond milk. However, I had problems after eating the egg bacon combo yesterday for breakfast even though I had toast with it this time. In FL I didn't have any bread so I figured it had to be the eggs or the bacon and as much as I love my bacon I strangely would rather it be the bacon than my eggs. So I had French toast with just eggs and SLMG bread testing to see if I have any problems and so far so good. So it looks like I'm giving up bacon. I want to get this figured out because DS and I would love to get with BS and go out for breakfast but I need to know I won't have a problem when we do.

Carol Sue I also thought about he Berberine because it does work like Metformin. I read on line that it can be the problem. So I have cut back to 2 a day instead of 3 to see how it affects my FBG and this morning my FBG was 93. So I don't think I need to take more than the 2. I will do that for a while and then if I have to I will cut back to 1. I just want to be able to go places without worrying about having an accident.

Yesterday I said that I am testing for a pattern of weight loss. And sure enough weight is down .8 lbs to 184.4 today. Hopefully I'll be back back down to 183.6 in a few days. This tells me that one day off or eating higher sodium calories etc, won't hurt me as long as I get right back OP the next day and not to do an off or higher sodium calorie day 2 consecutive days in a row. So I am learning how to make my personal woe work for me.

Fried catfish is on the menu today along with salad and carrots. Then I will have the rest of my beef soup for supper is I am hungry for it. Calories will be under 1250 and I've done my exercise for today so I'm off to a good start today.

Have a nice day Everybody.

Wannabehealthy 10-19-2021 09:55 AM

Weight is up a lb to 188.2. It is still under 190, but that is not my goal. It took me years to get through the 190s. I don't have time to take years to get through each decade. Don't get me wrong. I'm thankful to be firmly in the 180s but I need to continue down. I thought I ate fairly well yesterday but I know I am allowing things to sneak in.

But overall, I'm feeling better. The only thing I really did was cut fish oil down to one a day. I might stop it altogether once its gone. I'm taking drug store fish oil and it can be contaminated. Better to eat more fish.

Last night I slept on my back most of the night and had no pain. I can sleep on my back as long as I have my shoulders on my pillow. If I lay on my sides my hips start to hurt. They say it's best to sleep on your back.so I'm going to work toward that.

Trish, I sometimes get potty issues after eggs and bacon/ sausage. I blame it on high fat. I don't know if that's it. Are you eating regular bacon or Canadian? I had no issues when eating fiber, but I remember you still did.

If I was eating alone I would buy a carton off egg whites and combine them with 1 whole egg. This is what Dr Naiman recommends. But DH doesn't even like the whites and throws half of them out so he wouldn't do that. If I had stayed single I would be thin and healthy. DH introduced me to terrible eating habits and I am a follower, not a leader. I am doing much better than I did for years but I still fall back way too much. I need to try to get him more over to my side. I am amazed that he is delaying breakfast! I watched him yesterday and he did NOT eat lunch. Maybe he sees that i lose weight by delaying breakfast. We ate dinner around 3. I had salad and a cup of vegetable soup. But I snacked on pistachios after dinner.

Back when I was doing low carb, I told myself I could overeat as long as it was low carb. I snacked a LOT. Lots of cheese. I eat very little cheese now. No shredded cheese in my salad. So overeating has been my problem no matter what woe. If I eat within a 5-6 hour window and stick to it firmly I do best and can eat anything. Another thing. If I eat a small dinner, I tell myself that I can have something later, like the pistachios, because I ate the small dinner. I play games, but I'm only fooling myself. Any diet will work, but I cheat, and tell myself lies to justify what I'm doing.

Trish, I had catfish twice in my life. Years ago Bob Evans had it on the menu and it was good. They have it on the menu at Texas Roadhouse but I tried it and don't like the way its prepared. I love fish and could eat it often. DH only likes it deep fried and I can't do that. So I eat it in restaurants where we can each order what we want. This is why eating out works so well for us. We never order the same thing.

I want kielbassi with tomatoes and noodles but I doubt if I can talk DH into that today. He hates my cooking! ;) I have let him take over.

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So much for good intentions. Its 12:45 and I've eaten 1100 calories! I don't want to talk about it. DH is on his own for the rest of the day!

pattygirl63 10-19-2021 02:36 PM

Today I am not eating until 3ish. I've got chicken breast cooking in French onion soup in the crock pot. I will make a salad and not sure what he veggie will be. I'm not tracking today because I suddenly have a tendency to eat more calories than I should because I stretch to get to 1000 anad then I end up eating more than I should. That causes me to eat 3 meals which causes me to end up with 1400 to 1500 calories and I am not happy with that. So far I have had coffee with stevia and SF creamer and 1 c with collagen. This way I can have my main meal around 3ish and then 4 hrs later I can have breakfast for dinner and stop eating until 3ish the next day. I really like eating the WW SF plan and will use it for my food plan.

Carol Sue My weight is up too. I was kind of surprised as I thought it might come down or at least stay the same. MFP said I had too much sodium and fat so I guess that is where it was. I was 185 this morning. Like you want to get out of these 180s but I want it to be 170s when I do.

Have a nice day Everybody!

Wannabehealthy 10-19-2021 05:42 PM

I'm miserable today because I allowed myself to eat so much. I really don't like MFP. I don't think their information is correct. Even if I enter something from a menu like Bob Evans it brings up 3 different items. I choose the highest one. Other things that I make from scratch are total guesses. But it synchs my calories-in to Fitbit and I can compare it to calories-out. They are a guess, too. ;) If my calories are below 1000 I enter something small in snacks to bring it up so MFP will accept it. But I'm usually over 1000.

I went back to the thread in 2018 when DH was in the hospital and was reading about my weight loss.. I was stressed and lost that weight fast. I think that's why it didn't stick. I started regaining after he came home. I just realized I got down to 181 back then and I'm not that far away now.

I can't usually go without eating until dinner. That's too long. I get too hungry then I eat too close to dinner and then I'm not hungry. But I would like to try. I would like to do OMAD. Maybe I could do it one or two days a week, let my body get used to it. I think that's the key. My body got used to delaying breakfast. I used to always eat breakfast before work. I could never go to work without food.

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We are going to the casino tomorrow because of good sunny weather. Storms are predicted for Thursday and I hate the interstate on a good day let alone storms. I will highlight my hair in the morning before we go.

I think the tart cherry might be why my pain has improved. I stopped taking it for a while because I thought it wasn't doing anything. I started taking it again recently. I was just reading about it's benefits ​​​so I ordered it again along with some HA for my knees. I didn't realize I had gift card money left on Amazon so no charge!! :cp:
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fatmad 10-19-2021 07:47 PM

I was just 161 this am after eating yesterday, and was planning to stick to alternate day fasting, but I caved about 4 pm, and ate so today will be OMAD. I have leftovers from yesterday's stir fry, and some other stuff. I did not have a good sleep last night and have been dragging today. I did a bit of work and took the dog out but that is about it. I will head to bed early and go easy on myself because of the sleep deprivation. Tomorrow is another day and another opportunity. I expect I will be up a pound with rebound. I am very thirsty tonight for some reason.

Thanks for your support everyone, means a lot.
Carol Sue, I am so impressed you have gotten your DH to change some of those bad habits. this is a game changer for you and has helped you make changes yourself. I have confidence you can get back down again with those changes.
Trish you are really finding your groove with different eating plans and change up. That works well for you.

Off to bed early

Wannabehealthy 10-20-2021 07:16 AM

Good for you Mad! You're fasting is working nicely, and you got your walk in with the dog.

There is no good reason for my weight to be up to 189 this morning. I overate, but I stopped when I hit 1100 calories and didn't eat dinner. I got a little hungry so I cooked some broccoli and cauliflower since they are so low calorie but filling. My stomach started growling about an hour ago so I got up to have some coffee. I don't think I will be able to sleep more this morning. That's not good since we're going to the casino. Too bad. Maybe I can get a nap at the casino. :D

I didn't have any back/hip pain overnight so maybe that's gone, too. That would be wonderful. I'm feeling pretty good except for the scale. I think I'll reset it. Maybe that will help. Maybe not.

fatmad 10-20-2021 08:03 AM

Maybe you are just holding fluid right now Carol:

I am up a pound after my eating yesterday, which is disappointing. I oddly did not pee much overnight, so I too may be retaining fluid.
I am going to fast today, I had a great sleep for about 10 hours overnight.
I have a lot of work today so keeping busy should also help. I don't really lose weight doing OMAD so its not a great option for me.
Have a good day friends.

Wannabehealthy 10-20-2021 10:44 AM

Mad, I know that fluid and hormones cause fluctuations but we only like the downward fluctuations, not the upward ones. Right? Ha ha

I highlighted my hair. It doesn't look like its enough but it never does, until I get used to it. But I needed it after getting this recent haircut. I just don't like my dark hair and neither does DH.

I still didn't eat. Well, DH had fried eggs and I ate a piece of the egg white. He doesn't like the white. His brother eats the white but not the yolk. I like it ALL. We are leaving at 3 so I will probably eat something before we leave but I don't know what. Maybe I will cook some veggies again. I need to do something to get a drop and I can't fast that long.

pattygirl63 10-20-2021 05:55 PM

Weight this morning was 184. So down a lb. I made spaghetti today and MFP shows I had too much sodium so not sure how that will turn out. I fasted for 20 hrs after a 19 hr fast yesterday and had a 4 hr eating window yesterday. So I've had 2 days of longer fasts. So far my calories seem to be barely over 1000 today so this might turn into another long fast maybe even a 24:1 ratio. Not sure.

No we don't like fluctuations especially when they bounce up. I do so hope we can all get the scales consistently going down. I know some foods cause a bump while others don't. The problem is that I don't always know which ones.

Carol Sue I like the whole egg too. BTW I remember you asking what kind of bacon I was eating. I had been eating regular bacon which was one of the big reasons I loved doing low carb. Actually I probably can go back to eating Canadian bacon although it does have more sodium but then I never eat a whole serving which usually is 3 or more slices to a serving depending on the brand.

Fatmad I hope your fast goes well.

Y'all have a agreat day.




Wannabehealthy 10-20-2021 10:49 PM

The casino was ok. Not great. It was a long day though and not a good food day. I don't know why I'm eating so much. Its like my body loves being 190.

You are doing great with the fasts, Trish. Your numbers should go down in spite of the sodium. I want to be more like you when I grow up. ;)

I miss spaghetti and also chili but DH says he's tired of things with tomato sauce. I have 2 other dishes I like to make with tomato sauce, one with chicken and one with kielbasa but I guess he doesn't want them either. He won't tell me what he does want!

I'm so tired, I'm going to bed. Hmmm, DH just turned the furnace on.

pattygirl63 10-21-2021 01:16 AM

Carol Sue Sorry you are so tired and the eating wasn't good. Lately I do cook a lot with tomato sauces as well as soups but that worked for me in SC so I am hoping it will work now. Glad the casino was ok. I know you were tired before you went so hope you get a good nights sleep.

I had a good day as far as calories go as far as I can tell from MFP. Never sure how good the counts are. A lot of them I go buy calories on the products I use and pick as close as possible. Calories were just under 1200. I've been hungry all evening but I don't want to mess up my fast so I didn't eat anything. I don't know if I will wait until 3 to eat tomorrow but I will at least wait until around noon as I want my longest eating window to be no more than 6 even eating 3 meals or 2 meals with a snack. Potty issues are doing better with the lowfat eating with more fiber. I know I said I wasn't going to use MFP any more but I am doing WW SF plan counting calories rather than counting points.

Good night.

fatmad 10-21-2021 07:14 AM

Carol my DH loves all the tomato sauce things like spaghetti and lasagna, but he doesn't really do it without me. If he cooks ravioli from the fresh pasta section of the grocery store, he doesn't have it with sauce unless I heat it up. He doesn't make lasagna for himself, and doesn't buy it frozen, though there are many brands. He doesn't tend to make spaghetti unless I do the sauce and am having spaghetti squash or something. And he loves tomato sauces, and chilli etc but the tomatoes have to be "saucy" not sitting there as a whole but cooked tomato. Mostly I don't think he is picky except that thing about cooked tomatoes, but he is lazy about food.
Where I have gotten to cook more interesting and complex things. If I am only eating occasionally these days, I want to enjoy cooking and eating for sure.
Today I will plan to have bacon and eggs for brunch. That's simple, and easy when I am breaking a fast and hungry.
But we were gifted a large butternut squash and I will turn that into a delicious "jamaican squash soup" from a recipe I make a couple of times a year. Its a big squash so the soup will be good for today and also when DD comes for supper on Sunday.

I hope you are recovering well from your day at the casino. Are they still serving buffet style? With covid I would not feel so comfortable. or feel good with the crowds etc. especially without vaccine passports. I hope you can get back to your eating plan and IF. I am sure you can do it, and see your weekly casino trips as treat days.

Trish, good for you for getting back onto IF and your eating plan, doing great.

I am back to 160.0 today. Happy with that, but would like to see that number dip into 159.9 just for my psychological well being, but it won't happen today.
have a good day everyone.


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