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Old 04-14-2017, 06:01 PM   #346  
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p.a. The test showed you were burning fat. Maybe that was the reason for the higher A1c. I know Dr. Fung mentioned on the FB thing that a high FBS reading while fasting does not mean it isn't working. It actually means that it is. So perhaps that is true with your higher reading at the doc's office. The fact that the test dip showed you were burning fat sure sounds like it to me. I would take it as a good thing.

As for the lettuce, Dr. Halberg says that some people have to eat 20 or less carbs a day so perhaps that was the problem with the lettuce. Maybe your body is just soo used to 20 grams or less that just being over was too much. IDK but it is a thought.

Carol Sue I decided to purchase the Guideline to Fasting book because of the reviews. I've had many recommend his book the Obesity Code, but I read the reviews on both books and a few people said they had read both and they learned more from the Guideline book. I know you are like me and can't spend loads of money on books so I chose the Guideline. Like many in the reviews, it actually helped me understand more of what I was doing when I fast.

I don't ever plan to do an extended fast. For one thing it doesn't fit into my schedule/lifestyle. However, an 16:8 fast will fit any schedule. When I am home all day, I could easily do a 19:5, but like today my DS decided to go get DD and they picked me up and we went to Cracker Barrel to eat breakfast. We told Daddy we would go there if he would promise not to eat crazy. I told him "NO GRAVY" as it is just too much sodium. So today I am on 16:8 fast. Right now that is my basic way of eating.

I'm also cutting back on what I eat. We went to Arby's (one of DH favorites) and I got a Reuben sandwich which used to be one of my favorites there, but it didn't taste as good as it used to. I ate 3/4 of it and DH and I halved onion rings and drink wo fries. Today I made a huge salad with lunch and made baked fries and fish and couldn't finish the fries and fish after eating the salad. I am using EVOO and vinegar in my salad again and I really believe it is curbing my appetite. I don't know it does that or not, but it surely seems to for me. Even when we went to eat this morning, I couldn't eat all the food. I'm losing again, but it is inching down slowly but it is coming down and I decided that is the best way to lose it.

I exercised yesterday, but didn't have time to today. My FBS yesterday was 108. I don't know what it was before breakfast, but I know it dropped low enough that I was starting to feel really hypoglycemic bad just as I saw the waitress coming with our breakfast. I checked before I main meal and it was 114. So my bs is doing really good again. I have a feeling if I get back to exercising 5 days a week again that my FBS will soon get back to normal.

Couldn't get the car in to have it fixed until until Monday. So we have Daddy's car until we get it fixed. I hate having to use it because he might feel like getting out, but I'm thankful to be able to use it. It actually belongs to my DS and her DH and she has tried to get me to take it drive because she said it needed to be driven. I just hate driving someone else's car. I called her and told her I have one problem with that car and that is that the gear shift is in the console and the switch for the windshield wipers are where my gear shift is on my car. That care is going to have the cleanest windows by the time DD gets it back. LOL

No plans for the weekend except to take some onions to DD tomorrow. I didn't want to get out, but I forgot to take him some out of my bag (they always ruin before I use them up) and he asked me to bring him some onions when I go back over. I'll do that tomorrow. At least in his little car, I can run errands like that without using as much gas as my car does.

Y'all have a Happy Easter and a great weekend.
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Trish, p.a. said that her doctor was happy with A1c but the fasting blood glucose was high. I don't understand FBG. I doubt if I will ever have it under control.

I am 99% sure I'm ordering the Guide to Fasting. And I'm going to reread my JUDDD book, and remind myself why it worked so well for me. I am giving myself 90 days, until July 15, to get myself straightened out and get my blood sugar where it should be. Lately I have been the worst I've been in ages, and this has to stop. Now.

Sorry you have to wait for your car, but luckily your Dad's car is available for your use. I'm sure he doesn't mind, after all you have done for him. He can stay home for a few days.

I like Arby's roast beef, but only have it once in a while. Few times a year. Their fish sandwich is good for the price. DH only likes Arby's when we get get the coupon for 3 Beef and Cheddar, and I scrape the cheddar off mine. LOL He likes to sit down and be served. I think that's how his mother was with them growing up. If they wanted something, she made it and brought it to them. Bet they didn't leave a tip, though! LOL
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Carol I'm not sure what kind of stick it was,,,it looked like a keto stick and it did test for ketones but it also told dr I had bacteria in my urine....no idea.
I'm only guessing on the salad since I only ate that and chicken that night,,,who knows with us diabetics right? Trish I have heard about it's a good thing to have a high reading in the morning to show your liver is releasing the glucose but I don't think my dr agrees. She knows I do low carb but I have told her how low I go ...
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Good Morning Everyone! I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm Jen, and I was diagnosed with Type 2 10 years ago. Last year, when I almost lost some toes, I made a drastic lifestyle change, and lost 40 pounds and brought my a1c down from almost 8 to under 5. I'm still struggling with the last 15 pounds, and trying to beat my fasting blood sugar into submission!! It's harder now that I'm not on any medication, but it's still hovering around the 105 range each morning. Stupid dawn phenom!!

Anyway, just wanted to say hi!
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Welcome, Jen. You did a good job taking care of your diabetes! I would kill for a FBG of 105. I like your screen name. Cute

Trish, last night I was reading about meds that cause a rise in blood sugar and one of them is diuretics. I know you said you took one in the past, but don't know if you still take it. It mentioned drugs that end in HCTZ. Most of them are for blood pressure, and contain diuretics. Just mentioning, in case anyone is taking them. If you need it, you need it, though, but the article said to try to avoid taking them at night.

p.a. another article I was reading last night was about the cause of high FBG. It said that it is not necessarily from what you ate the night before, but often caused by hormones. FBG is something I will probably never fully understand. I did hear a long time ago when you are working toward lowering blood sugar, fasting is the last to come down.

I think this was the article I was reading. I hope I don't get in trouble for posting this link.

http://www.diabeticconnect.com/diabe...ucose-readings

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Well since insulin is a hormone and our bodies typically release too much of it in the dawn ( the dawn phenomenon) the article is right Carol,,,, does that help understand it ? What baffles me is the times it goes sky high, when it shouldn't be.
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p.a. I think you meant that the body releases glycogen in the morning, not insulin. Because if it released insulin, it would bring your blood sugar down, instead of having it go up. I understand that the body releases glucose because you have gone overnight without eating and the pancreas senses the lack of sugar, but it releases too much. I think as your work toward lowering blood sugar readings, your body gradually uses up the extra stores of glucose, and when it's pretty much depleted, the body will not have any to release, and you will no longer get the high fasting readings. The diabetes educators tell you to keep eating often to keep blood sugar steady and to include carbs, but then the body will never use up the excess and the problem will continue. While I understand their reasoning, I question if it's right or not. It seems that they were taught one thing and are not open to learn something new. I do feel that the diabetic body operates differently from the non-diabetic body, and everything about IF does not apply in the same way.

Last night I started reading the JUDDD book again, and once again I am psyched. I am half tempted to get blood work done and then compare the results after 90 days of JUDDD, but I'm afraid if the doctor sees the bad results now he is going to want to increase/add meds, and I don't want that. I want to see the eating plan make the changes. I would be really disappointed if it's wrong, but I won't know unless I do it and stick to it. I really don't think today is a good day to start back on plan, or even tomorrow, with all the leftovers, but as soon as the Easter food is gone. LOL
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Wow Carol, I reread what I wrote and your right,,,,please ignore my post above everyone,,,jeez not sure what I was thinking.
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Oh, p.a. don't give it another thought. We all talk through our hats once in a while. LOL I knew what you meant.

Yesterday at Easter dinner I was talking with my SIL. She is short, and very overweight. She used to be a lot bigger but had weight loss surgery. After marrying DH's brother she has gained some back. She is 52. She told me that she hadn't been to the doctor for a long time and decided she should get a checkup. He did a lot of blood work and everything was right in line. Only problem was B12 deficiency, which is common after WLS. It's so amazing to me that she has no medical issues at her weight and age. That' proves something, but I'm not sure what. LOL Everyone in the family talks about her behind her back saying how unhealthy it is for her to be that heavy, and here she is, healthier than everyone! For one thing, she belongs to a gym and does a lot of classes....aerobics and zumba, and exercise does a lot for health.

Our Easter at my son's was nice. I had 2 small glasses of wine and I felt terrible afterwards. I don't drink much and when I do, I usually dilute the wine with diet ginger ale but I forgot to take it there. I feel much better this morning. I guess I can no longer handle alcohol. Another issue, I drank it not long after taking my diabetes meds and the meds warn against alcohol, but I didn't think that small amount would matter. I really don't think it was the food because it's all food I've eaten before and I didn't really overeat. I'm blaming it on the booze. LOL

So leftovers today, and back on plan tomorrow.
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Ha thanks Carol.....I'm sure you all heard that big thump this weekend...me falling off the wagon big time. Ugh all that hard work to lose 10 pounds and quickly put some back on. I said I wasn't going to do that this time after Drs appt and here I am doing it. I'm confessing and getting back on track.
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HI gang: had a bit of an off day today, too many carbs, feeling it now. I went to a potluck and over ate and ate some carb foods I wouldn't normally eat.
Well, tomorrow will be a better day. I can start off with a mini fast and just have lunch and supper with low carb/high fat foods to top it off. Hope that will do, as I was at 173 again today after my previous off days.
Time to get back to weight losing days again.
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I have an article saved in my bookmarks, all about how the body wants to stay at the weight it is and will fight you every step of the way while you work at losing, and even if you do succeed in losing, it will fight even harder to get your back to your high weight, or even higher. It's so depressing, I don't know why I keep that article saved, and the saddest part is that I know it's true.

A woman on the JUDDD forum has lost a lot of weight and is in the 120s, but she said she maintains at 900 calories, and has to go even lower if she wants to lose. Also, I know my friend who lost all that weight isn't eating more than that. It's a very hard pill to swallow.

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I think its a concern Carol Sue, because we can't get adequate nutrition on those calories. I am sticking around 173-174 and struggling a bit too. But with diabetes, the weight loss affects other aspects of health we can't deny.
Its gonna be a smoothie day, to keep me on track.
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I know it is a concern, Mad, but most people just want to be thin. They don't worry about nutrition, because mostly you can't readily see the results of poor nutrition. Dr Johnson from JUDDD stresses the importance of getting good nutrition from the calories you are consuming. It's called CRON. Calorie Restriction with Opitmal Nutrition. He stresses that UD is not just a free-for-all-eat-what-you-want day, as some think. Calorie restriction is said to eliminate inflammation and increase longevity, but does have a bad effect when done on a daily basis. Thus, the UD DD. I know for a fact that my friend who lost and maintained 30 lbs is not getting good nutrition. She eats mostly packaged foods that are low calorie, like cereal, rice cakes, with very little meat or vegetables. She likes to be able to read a nutritional label and get her info from there. But she is happy that she is now so thin and wild horses couldn't convince her that what she is doing is not good. Her A1c went from 8 to 5, so that is one good result of her new eating plan. Only time will tell.
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Quick flyby. A lot going on as usual with DD. But I am back to using MFP and using diet plan I was on when I went to see the diabetic nutritionist and educator. It works for me and I just want to be healthy and do it without too much medication. That plan will also bring my triglycerides down without statins. With questions on statins and the way it makes me irritable and depressed, I don't want to take. Also it fits my lifestyle dealing with DD and all the emotional junk going on. Still not eating until 10ish and going back to fasting 5 hrs between meals during the day.

I have to say that while I want to be thin, at this point in my life that healthy is the main thing for me.

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