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Old 11-07-2010, 06:30 PM   #31  
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I am a very black and white person. I also tend to need perfection. It has something to do with control, I am sure. I get panicky when I think I might go backwards as I have done many times before. It is OK for everyone else, but for me, it is scary to allow a slip. I feel like an addict or alcoholic.

I just cannot express how helpful it is to be able to post here. Sorry if I seem to be a drama queen. I need to finish this and get my inflammation under control. I am not even sure losing weight will fix everything. I am so impatient to learn the results of this experiment. And to learn what I may have to individually change to be healthy.
You're doing really, really well. What is the saying, "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."?

I too find it really helpful to have a place to post to sort out my thoughts. I have the IP threads, this one, my blog and the PB/MDA forum Yikes! Logorrhea much?

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Svelting, what does the dental freezing consist of? It doesn't sound like fun!
Claire -- The dentist was preparing my tooth for a crown -- so grinding away at the old filling and some actual tooth. I didn't ask, but I think the freezing was novocaine. I'll be going back for the permanent crown this week and a small filling in a upper tooth. The dentist assures me that freezing the upper jaw is much easier than the lower. We shall see!
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[ I read your “observation” post and your comments on how, even though you couldn’t weigh, you wrote down your food. I personally think that tracking (for me) is the single most important thing I can do, it keeps me honest. <snip>

Holly, that sounds wonderful! Let us know about the coconut oil-ghee blend.

Also - I saw your progress pictures thread ... you look hot! Wow!! You must be so pleased with yourself.
I also like recording what I eat. If you think about this as an experiment, it's almost necessary to record the "inputs" to see if there are any patterns in the outputs. I kept a food, mind, and body journal when I did the Potatoes Not Prozac program. It was interesting to see what food seemed to cause what symptom. I started paying attention to my body in a healthy way and noticed that when I had a lot of milk (just regular pasteurized 1% or 2%) within about 30-60 minutes I had ear "wax-us maximus" I have cream and full-fat yogurt now and haven't had the ear problems.

Haven't tried the coconut oil ghee blend yet. I bought some no nitrate bacon and we've been eating and nibbling on that. I was apologizing for it while it cooked, the pink meaty parts turned grey-beige. It didn't look very appealing but boy it tasted good. My sweetheart admitted afterward that he had his doubts while he was tending it, but had his fair share last night and today!

Thanks for checking me out. I am very pleased with the progress I've made and am looking forward to losing weight and burning the belly fat on primalish eating. I'm going to give myself at least a month before I start the primalish movement (fitness) other than frequently move slowly.

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I need to thank you all for posting. If it weren't for you being here when my curiosity had me poking around 3FC, it may have taken me a long time to discover primal. I'm so very grateful.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:48 PM   #32  
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svelting, you may have mentioned this before but where are you with IP? It appears that you have had great success on it losing 50 lbs.

My SIL is still going back and forth between IP and Primal and isn't doing too well on either. His mom lost a ton of weight and is now pretty much living off the shakes as she has digestive issues and throws everything up except those shakes.

Are you using Primal to transition?
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svelting, you may have mentioned this before but where are you with IP? It appears that you have had great success on it losing 50 lbs.

My SIL is still going back and forth between IP and Primal and isn't doing too well on either. His mom lost a ton of weight and is now pretty much living off the shakes as she has digestive issues and throws everything up except those shakes.

Are you using Primal to transition?
I'm off the IP stuff. My intention was to be on it only for a limited period of time. Mostly because my pattern has been to be take something on enthusiastically for 3 months or so, then to get distracted and move on. I decided just to use that to my advantage with a planned change in the 3-4 month range. I didn't know what I would move to, just that I would move. And, here I am.

I'm theoretically in "Phase 3" which is the reintroduction of carbs (fruit, grain, low fat dairy) at breakfast. The principle of doing this is to "wake up" the pancreas in a controlled manner after a period of very low carbs. Instead of grains I was having a scoop of a sweet potato - red onion - apple casserole. The last 3-4 days I've been skipping the starch and just protein and fat (eggs + cream + coconut oil) or having full-fat greek yogurt with berries and some nuts. I may just roast up some more veggies and keep them handy for morning noshing this week.

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I would find it difficult to bounce back and forth between the two plans. Ideal Protein is a decidedly low fat plan, probably ≈ 25 g fat/day. They'll both work for him, he probably justs needs to choose to "put his whole-self in, and do the Hokey-pokey." That's what it's all about!

I hope his mother finds something other than the IP shakes. I wonder if some probiotics would ease her digestive issues. A decent coach might suggest that if informed of the difficulties.

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I'm really just using Primal to transition to Primal. Over the course of 2 weeks, I moved from having 1 real food meal + 3-4 protein packet meals/day to having 3 real food meals.

One tip from IP's maintenance guidelines (Phase 4) is to separate servings of fat from starches and sugars. Have fatty meats with veg. Have starchy carbs with veg and lean meat or lean fish. It's kind of an interesting idea, but I haven't tried it yet. I am keeping the tactic in my back pocket should my weight loss/fat loss stall for some reason.
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hey girls, I am back from my weekend trip where I was VERY naughty and I am good with that! (and good AT that)
Friday we had a Italian potluck ..and I had bread and pasta! it was not that great and I felt all bloaty and stiff in the monrning
Saturday We hit the road, I had KFC, but no biscuits or anything, just chicken and coleslaw.
Saturday night was Red Robin, I had the fries, and the burger I had without the bread!
BUT Sat night after soaking in the hot tub and playing in the pool we had Ben and Jerrys Ice Cream......YUP the whole thing!
Sunday morning hotel breakfast, biscuits and gravy, bagel and crm cheese and peanut butter
Sunday 3pm, chinese food, S&S chicken, pork chow mein, egg roll....

Now I am DONE.
Packed lunch of steak and carrots, brought my coffee and tea to work too, no excuses.
I am so gassey, stiff, achey, bloated. YUCK!

But I knew this weekend was coming and I was going to have what I wanted to have and be good with it
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Excited that we are starting our new Dave Ramsey Seminar. That is the Friday night potluck, so it will be a challenge, especially nights when they do things like Italian! But I will find a way. I think this next week will be Haystacks (taco salads built on tortilla chips) I can do that well, we will bring the ground beef and just have it without the chips.

We also have a meeting we go to 2 times a month that is potluck too, it gets a little difficult, I just make sure to bring a main course that we can survive on if we dont have anything else added to it.

Anyway, Dave Ramsey (Financial Peace) is a 13 week course, and we are excited. We are a small group going through it right now, and will offer it to our community in a larger group in Feb, and the ones going through it right now will lead the groups. I need to replace my car this spring, and possibly the other one too. My goal will be to pay cash for at least one of them. SO I am making my car payments to myself right now (to save for the future car)
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Good for you MikkiJoe,

That's how we bought our last car. The next thing is the house. My husband and I both left our first spouses with the house, the car, the 401k etc. Both didn't want to hurt the other person and possessions were just not that important to us. My ex even says regarding my daughters terrible divorce "I don't know what is wrong, your mother and my divorce was very smooth...". Ya right, cause I gave you everything. LOL

Anyway, when my new husband and I met, we didn't realize that we had both done that and neither one of us had a paid-for house. So we're starting over from scratch.

So funny reading about your weekend. I admire you telling it like it was, no excuses and no regrets!

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I briefly looked at your husbands web site Friday, very similar principles that we are "training" our brain to follow.

Lunch today, left over steak and veggie. I asked my daughter to pack the steak in a container and add some type of veg....she put in a handful of raw baby carrots. I do not like baby carrots when I am at work, it takes too much work to eat them, especially when I might have to answer the phone. So I left them in the container while I heated up the steak, about 3 minutes in the microwave....I think I found a new way to eat carrots, those were perfect. Still had crunch but not too much.
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Mikkijoe don't you just love unintended discoveries like your baby carrots? They must have been delicious after soaking up a little of the steak drippings.

Sandy you're doing well on your net carb challenge!

I can't believe my energy and mood the last few days -- steady, even high energy and I'm bloody cheerful even early in the morning.

Has anyone experienced low-blood pressure when rising either from bed or sitting? If so, what worked to eliminate it?

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I've experienced it before and during this WOE and have no idea what causes it.
I thought it was just old age. LOL

I just researched a little and read that dehydration can be a cause. I wonder if when we are low carb so we do not store water with carbs, if there is a problem with just not having enough water around. I try to drink water often but "forget". Days that I drink well, my urine is light yellow, almost clear. I have read that clear urine is too much water.

So I will start noticing, how I feel when hydrated and suddenly getting up. I notice this the most when I get out of my very hot bubble baths. They are probably not good for me but I cannot stand water that is not HOT

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hey girls ... Had a great weekend in NYC like Mikkie no regrets on any front ... This morning I was already down 3lbs of bloat .....

Back to work back to eatin well and exercising
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Hot baths; GUILTY! In fact my kids now have a glass of ice water waiting for me, seems like all I can do is get my jammies on and practically crawl to the recliner, it wipes me out! But I wont stop! My skin gets so dry in the winter, and the hot water is the last thing it needs, but too bad, must have my hot water fix.

Doing good today, have my curry packed for lunch, have chipless taco salad tonight, will stay on plan

Made 5 minute ice cream last night! Put about 3/4 cup of frozen blue berries in a heavy coffee mug, poured coconut milk over them till just to the top of the berries. Then quickly toasted some unsweetened coconut chips (the huge flakes) in butter till toasted and brown. Mixed up with spoon and kinda choped the berries a little. With the berries frozen it ended up freezing the milk and it was like ice cream! Fantastic! I used SO Delicious Original Coconut milk, but also tried it with canned pure coconut milk, both ways great, The SO cm was the very best though!
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OOOOH Mikkijoe...I might have to try that!! We used to do that with yogurt and blueberries but after the kids were diagnosed with soy AND dairy allergies, that dessert went out the window. And pretty much anything "frozen" has those 2 ingredients.

Will have to go shopping tomorrow!
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MikkiJoe...

I have a recipe for Chicken Veloute soup that is delicious but it has fresh corn in it that may "make" the recipe. Can you think of any vegetable that would have the little bit of sweetness the corn probably adds? I am already going to substitute the potato with rutabagas or turnips. Substituted rutabagas for the potatoes in the Olive Garden Soup mentioned on MDA and my DH liked that a lot. I just had the broth as I couldn't spare the carbs this week and it was really good.....

I was thinking maybe yellow peppers or carrots but neither one seems to be quite right.

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