LA Weight Loss - Beck Diet Solution/For LIfe – January 2009 – Support, Discussion, Diet Coach/Buddy




BillBlueEyes
01-01-2009, 02:43 AM
Welcome to the discussion group, support group, diet coach group, diet buddy group relating to the two books by Dr. Judith S. Beck:The Complete Beck Diet for Life (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/084873274X/3fatchionadie)and the first bookThe Beck DIET solution: train your brain to think like a thin person. (http://astore.amazon.com/3fatchionadie/detail/0848731735/104-4216363-1799918)

The Beck Diet Solution is a psychological program, not a food plan. It provides a step-by-step program to learn specific techniques to stay on our diet, lose weight, and maintain our weight loss for life. The program is based on Dr. Beck's clinical research in Cognitive Therapy (CT).

The Complete Beck Diet for Life expands the earlier work and includes a food plan with suggested menus. From the cover:With The Complete Beck Diet for Life you'll discover the 5 stages of successful deiting and maintenance. You'll learn how to motivate yourself, give yourself credit for every change you make, create time and energy for dieting, and handle hunger and cravings. Dr. Beck easues you into changing one step at a time. You'll master one task before monving on to the next. And you'll learn tehcniques to deal with challenging situations, such as sticking with ou plan at celebrations and dealing with "food pushers." With Dr. Beck's skills, you'll acheive a lifetime of healthful eating and lifelong motivation.

This is a place to discuss the Beck strategies and our daily efforts, to receive and provide support, and, for some of us, is where we serve as on-line diet buddy (coach) to each other.

If you’ve arrived from a search engine, you’ve landed at the site of 3 fat chicks, a remarkable place for those interested in a healthy life style, including mindful eating, exercise, and weight loss. More about the site, including how to register so that you can post can be found here (http://www.3fatchicks.com).

The books are available on Amazon through the 3FC store by clicking their names above; buying through 3FC helps to cover the costs of running this site.

Previous Beck threads on 3fatchicks.com:

The Beck Diet Solution – December 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/general-diet-plans-questions/157482-beck-diet-solution-december-2008-group-support-discussion-diet-coach.html)
The Beck Diet Solution – November 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155386)
The Beck Diet Solution – October 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152905)
The Beck Diet Solution – September 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150552)
The Beck Diet Solution – August 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147919)
The Beck Diet Solution – July 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145225)
The Beck Diet Solution – June 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143194)
The Beck Diet Solution – May 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141254)
The Beck Diet Solution – April 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138609)
The Beck Diet Solution – March 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135814)
The Beck Diet Solution – February 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=133223)
The Beck Diet Solution – January 2008 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129810)
The Beck Diet Solution – December 2007 – Group for Support, Discussion, Diet Coach (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128075)
The Beck Diet Solution - November 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126374)
The Beck Diet Solution - October 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124433)
The Beck Diet Solution - September 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121790)
The Beck Diet Solution - August 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119430)
The Beck Diet Solution - July 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116556)
The Beck Diet Solution - May/June 2007 (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112274)


landlady6
01-01-2009, 05:25 AM
Happy New Year coaches/buddies/friends!

I am up WAY too late... but I am making my response cards and ARC deck...Til tomorrow, Heidi

BillBlueEyes
01-01-2009, 08:15 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Happy New Year to all you active posters, posters on leave of absence, and Readers. May 2009 be joyous, prosperous, and on-plan.

OK, I made it through my two eating events of New Years Eve good enough. CREDIT moi. Wish they were closer to a normal days eating, than needing to use my generous celebration allowance to make it on-plan. Oh Well. Good news is that I never felt out of control, like the old days. The opportunity appeared to have fondue, which I haven't had for years and years. The dipping and dripping was much fun, but actually wasn't as good as its memory. Cheese was only so so, and the white bread used for dipping has long ago lost its appeal to me.

But BIG WOO HOO: For the potluck I unloaded the tray of fudge that had appeared in our life over the holidays, as well as the bag of Kit Kat candy bars from Halloween. The fudge was pretty good, seeing that go wasn't a surprise, but watching adults (as well as the teenagers) going after the Kit Kats made me super happy. They are gone from my house.

And DW has the black eyed peas soaking for our traditional New Years dinner.


onebyone - Continued Kudos for your continued cleaning and organizing your space. Neat that you're preparing space for your wii workout. And super neat that you'll even drive to Toronto to get one.

It appeals to me that you're off to explore an Arabic grocery store. Perhaps fate has selected this moment to help you with your veggie challenge via completely new tastes. Looking forward to hearing what you discover.

As for "sources of real wisdom", I take encouragement and insight from Maintainers Weekly Chat Thread (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159558) - everyone is welcome who has lost so much as a pound, because from thence, one is a maintainer.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch for only four hours sleep. But in awe pondering the power, however mixed the metaphor, of el nino firing on all cylinders, LOL. Local weather man could improve his act with some descriptions like that.

Heidi (landlady6) - Kudos for making your new response cards and ARC deck. And Kudos for staying up to welcome in the New Year, LOL.

Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for six hours in the mall, even though with your DD, and even though there was shopping success. My notion of the tenth level of Dante's **** would be a New Jersey shopping mall with all national brand stores. Frightening enough to keep me on the straight and narrow.

Anne (wndranne) - Sending supportive thoughts as you continue your transition - with both its "independence" and painful letting go.

Kudos for planning for your IHOP visit; it's neat for me to be reminded that ordering from the kids' menu is a realistic choice. My brain doesn't tend to ever think that thought in a real situation.


shrinkin - Waving; wishing you a Happy New Year also.

Chris (Anglemoma210) - Kudos for scheduled play; good stuff that licorice.

Andrea (thinkerbell) - Sobering story about the gumpkys, but enjoying your self-deprecating writing style, as in, "DUH! Can someone whip me with a cabbage leaf?" Kudos for getting back on track in time for the new year.

And thank you for your kind words when we cross-posted yesterday morning. I am so used to being the first poster that I forget to look for posts that arrive while I am typing or wandering about chasing down references to other threads.


Readers - "That's what The Complete Beck Diet for Life does for you - it gives you your life back in so many ways:

• It frees you from guilt, worry, self-consciousness, and self blame.
• It frees you from you fear of hunger and your fear of losing control.
• It frees you from overwhelming temptation and emotional eating.
• It frees you from feelings of deprivation, unfairness, and discouragement.
• It frees you from obsession about your food choices, weight, and appearance." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 13.


thinkerbell
01-01-2009, 09:02 AM
Happy New Year Coaches, Buddies and Friends!

I am soooooooooooooo happy to report I am back on plan and the scale showed just a 0.4 lb gain (and this weight was after eating breakfast!).....which is a major victory for this holidaze season! Woo-hoo for me! I maintained my 21 pound weight release! It is a wonderful way to begin 2009! Not yet in Onederland but it does feel Wonderfull!

Oh, and I begin 2009 not hung-over.....food or alcohol wise! Credit moi!

I'll be back for personals as I am not sophisticated enough to figure out how to open multiple windows ......and to do personals this morning I would need to go back to December's thread....much to complicated for my low-tech brain!

May your dreams and resolutions all come to be in 2009!

Andrea aka thinkerbell

lilyyoung
01-01-2009, 10:24 AM
I've been working with the Beck Diet Solution since 9/30/08 or so. I finished the book, but I haven't been able to rigorously apply all the strategies--especially after I finished the book. And I got tired of re-reading it. So I wa eagerly anticipating publication of the Complete Diet for Life and bought it the first day it came out, December 23! I'm probably not the only one. New Year's Eve was spent in a local steakhouse with my boyfriend. We shared an amazingly delicious and very large chocolate chip sundae (who cares about the food, it was the dessert I was looking forward to!) I gained .6 overnight, which isn't that bad, but it puts me slightly over 160. I started this journey at about 165. I've been down to 157 for one day, I think. My goal is to be 150 lbs. or less. I'm 54 and not very active, with a bit of arthritis and back problems--not unusual at my age. I was in physical therapy, which just ended, and one of my challenges for this year is to keep up with exercise. I am thinking of joining a gym, but just on a one-month-at-a-time basis because I don't know if I'll be able to keep up with it, and I am afraid of injuring myself. I have been doing weight watchers' points--the old plan, not the one they just started, and incorporating some of Beck's diet. I'd like to be a part of this group and get and give some support on this lifetime journey!
Lily

RobinW
01-01-2009, 11:20 AM
Good Morning and Happy New Year! :newyear:

onebyone~ Im jealous, I didnt get to see Bolt :( Dd went with her dad....but I think we are off to see Marley and Me today :corn: I think the best movie Ive seen with a theatre full of kids was the 2nd Harry Potter. Because the kids were already into it, their reactions were so cool to experience. Hmmm...I read your post and wanted to comment on a few other things, but I cant remember now :dunno:

lilyyoung~ Im glad you found us....you'll find lots of support and help here. Welcome!

Bill~ you are too funny!! Dont threaten you with hard jail time....threaten you with MALL time!!!! :lol3:

Kudos for making it thru your parties!! Another big kudos for recognizing that the white bread dipped in cheese really wasnt that good! ......and for getting rid of the fudge and kit kat bars!! Its always so nice to see that stuff being eaten by someone else! :lol:

Anne~ Sounds like you had a very nice day yesterday! Kudos for keeping to your plan and being happy with the way things are working with it!

The mall was fun....but dd knows not to push it too far :lol: Dont get mom burned out on malls or I wont go at all.

shrinkin ~ landlady6 :wave:

I sat down yesterday with my dd so she could show me how to use her nintendo ds. She gave me a racing game........then got so frustrated with her mom trying to make it work she took it from me and did it herself! :lol3: My stomach hurt from laughing so hard at my attempts to stay out of the water, and constantly hitting the wall :lol: The coolest part was; she had me put my own voice effects into the game. It was hilarious! But I dont know if she'll let me play with it again :rofl:

K....food was 100% right on, exercise wasnt too shabby but lacking on water again today.

Today is the last day of my first 21 day challenge! I am going to call it a successs. Christmas was the mid challenge, challenge! I ate mindfully, but didnt realize the sugar that was in my food was so high. I overcame that and made it thru the rest of the challenge.

Tomorrow I'll get on the scale. I dont want to. Ive stuck to my plan and Ive been very happy with the way Ive been feeling. I just dont want to get on the scale and be dissappointed in what I see. If the scale hasnt moved, that will not be good for my inner skinny person trying to get out.

On the plus side, nsv has been wearing my jeans again without having to lay down on the bed to do them up. Also my winter jacket is snug around my belly anymore. I actually have room to put stuff in my pockets now without that stuff also pulling the jacket tight around my belly.

..........maybe I should stay off it and be happy with my nsv? Wait until the end of my next 21 day challenge?

Let's hear what you all think....I think Im making some thinking errors here and need to identify them.

Have a great day everyone!

freer
01-01-2009, 11:34 AM
Happy New Year to All!

Before I head out to the Jazzercise One Club class (we all start at 1 class again on 1/1) I wanted to check in on what I'm guessing will be a busy day here on the boards, what with all the resolutions going around.

I've been on plan for a few days now and that feels good. After my morning weigh in I noticed that I'm exactly the same weight I was 1 month ago. I can look at that as a not so great thing, but I'm choosing to look at it as I made it through the holidays unscathed! Glad they're over and all of those tempting foods will be out of the house.

Best of luck to all Becksters old and new - THIS IS OUR YEAR!

kuhljeanie
01-01-2009, 12:25 PM
morning my coaches,

still sick, sick, sick, but DH is off today so he's taken el nino out to run errands. i love that kid to death - but it's a huge relief not to have to entertain/corral/carry him when i feel so crappy myself. shout out to my fabulous DH. and to bill for calling me on an unintended mixed metaphor. i used to be a professional editor; i should know better. :)

did our annual new year's dinner at a legendary italian restaurant last night. i had eaten so little during the day, i actually came out below my calorie target. don't feel like giving myself huge credit for that, but what the heck.

looking forward to feeling better and going back to work, where the gym is. ironic, ain't it? :)

happy new year!

QuilterInVA
01-01-2009, 12:38 PM
Hello, everyone. I'm still around. Started back to WW on December 11 and have lost 7.8 pounds so I'm really happy about getting through the holiday eating season.

I dislocated my thumb 2 weeks ago so now have to wear a brace for 3-4 weeks. Needless to say, I can't do Curves one handed so I have been doing some exercise DVDs I have. I'm so glad 2008 is over, it wasn't a good year.

Happy New Year to all of you!

angelmomma210
01-01-2009, 01:03 PM
Happy New Year all.

Last year was very hard for us and I am glad that that part is over. We did learn alot last year and that is a plus. I also learned what true friendship means to me. To have people here that I do not know personnal that take the time to listen and support means the world to me.

It may take some time, but dh was on the phone for over 2 hrs. with the eeo person. Yesterday was the first day that dh felt so positive. I also got to talk with them and tell them how my dh had changed to depression thru out this past year. I too feel alot more positive...we just need to make it until this is settled.

I only gained 3 lbs thru the holidays and that is great for me. Last night I was very careful with what we had and for our new years drink we usually have the sparkling cider...this year I just wanted apple juice and only 1/2 a glass. Dd called us at 9 our time as she is 3 hrs ahead of us and then called us when we hit the new year.

For my new years resolution...I want to become healthier by losing weight and trying with the dr. to cut my a-fib down. I will be talking with him about the surgury for a-fib and see if I am a canidate for it. After 11 years it gets very hard to go thru an a-fib.

I am so glad to read about all of you and what you have accomplished that it gives me a goal for myself. I can do this and I will.

Thank you again my friends for your support and just letting me vent when I need to. I also hope to be able to be here more and to do the new book. I have it and have gotton my supplies and am on the 3rd chapter. I want to do this right so that I can move on.

Take care and will try to read more later.

onebyone
01-01-2009, 09:48 PM
Good Evening Coaches

Man. I have had a rollercoaster of an emotional day today. I have been working with affirmations again and one of things I do is give myself a thought/a wish/ a direction as I am going to sleep and in the morning I usually get an intuitive thought... that still small voice you know? So basically i've just been asking for direction, to do the next right thing, to get a clue as to what that would be and this morning the thought was "call your family and say Happy New Year."
What? That?! Ugh. Do I have to? So I called my mother who got my present who loved it and told me news of my sister who just bought a house in Key West and so the family didn't spend Christmas together and they didn't give gifts. The sister who usually does all that was in Key West. Anyway, after that I called my other sister and got a machine & left a message. called my brother, got a machine, & left a message. Knew the other sister was in key West and don't have her cell and figured she'd be away a long time but I called my mother back to get her cell# and she didn't have it so I left a message with my mom to tell her happy new year for me and to tell her how truly thrilled I am for her that she got a house in key west. really. I wish it was me and I got a house, but honestly. That's fantastic news. So very happy for her. So, I keep trying to connect... I am doing my bit, I could do a bit more but hopefully someone will respond. My mother assured me no one was mad at me. Okay. On to other things.

I cleaned the top of the stove off. It's shiny and white now. That was my big accomplishment. I haven't been up to snuff today. (Girl trouble.) So I hope to be better tomorrow. I am due to go out with my friend for a car ride (so thrilled to get out!) and some shopping and looking around. Awesome.
She's promised me a ride to a store to get fresh green things. Veggies here I come....

So my food was about 70% today on plan. kudos for this. I underate.
I am giving my foodplan lots of thought. i read the story of a person here who lost 130+lbs and did it by incorporating 14 superfoods into her diet. She just made a decision to eat only good food and treat herself well. I am really thinking of this as being my approach. How can you go wrong with this? The carb cycling I have started doing works, but it is very highly structured and in the end I am not sure is doable over the longterm, like a life. But changing the substance of what I eat and the amounts of food, the quality of food, this is sustainable. Anyway, just thinking about these things since it is New Years Day and a good day to plan and look ahead.

angelmomma210 I hope 2009 treats you well! Kudos on only a 3lb gain. That's fantastic!

QuilterInVA Congrats on your weightloss over the holiday season. Sorry to hear about your thumb :( happy to see you back!

kuhljeanie Happy new year and I hope you feel better ASAP.

freer Yes this is our year! I think you did amazing to be even given the holidays... and now going back to jazzercise today? i'd say you're ahead! Kudos.

RobinW Hi! I think you need to get on that scale. The scale is holding too much power over you. You need to re-read Beck and dealing with disappointment and you need to take the power away from the numbers. Maybe write down all the positives before you step on it and then think of it as another kind of marker. that's what I do--neither good nor bad it's like the marks on a ruler. It's just a way we humans measure things; the measurement of gravity upon our skin bones and muscles; our bodies. On the moon we'd weigh different, Venus different again and Mars different. And the scale is indifferent to our angst. it's just a number. We give it meaning or power. Just get the mark and leave it at that for the next time. JMHO. You know if you can cope. It will be there in 21 more days if you do need to take a longer break from the scale. Before bed ask for an intuitive thought about the scale and act on it in the morning. you'll know.:hug:

lilyyoung Hi and happy new year! Glad you joined us... looking forward to your posts.

thinkerbell Good going on your results... big kudos for maintaining. That's awesome!

shrinkin' happy new year coachbuddy!

BillBlueEyes Congrats on successfully navigating the holiday food feasts. We are back to normaleveryday challenges now! woohoo! ;)
I am still planning on the Arabic foodstore but will get some known staples tomorrow via my friend's car. Looking forward to it. I am starting to believe that we will be moving and so I am feeling even more motivation to get rid of things that I really do not and will not be moving. I feel a willingness to do this inspite of beng a hoarder for decades. 2009 will indeed be a great year.
All the best to you and your family and to those other readers reading this...
may we get all the goodies we so deserve in 2009.

AnneWonders
01-01-2009, 11:40 PM
Coaches/Buddies A long day and I'm tired. Fatigue factor of about 8 right now. I did OK again today. Read my cards, weighed in (no change), mindful eating, lots of credits, exercise, resisted desire to eat, monitored my food intake, and followed my plan. About one more week of this and I'm on to Stage 2/4.

My parents are leaving tomorrow, which puts things almost back to normal. I'm sad to see them go. The kids were a handful today, which is why I'm tired.

I've been reading ahead in CBDL, and am trying to figure out what to do with the various stages. Stage 3 is special circumstances like eating out, family dinner, holidays and so forth, which I'm dealing with right now, and so sort of leaches into all the other stages. So I'm sort of skipping around. Stage 4 is modifying the eating plan, which I'll do anyway as part of Stage 2. As a six year maintainer, I feel pretty comfortable I can handle that, and know which foods work for me and which don't. I also know that some of the plan relaxation in Stage 4 is a place I can't go--I have to monitor my food or it gets out of hand. So there's that. It'll be a while before I get to Stage 5, or maybe I'm already there, depending on how you look at it.

Heidi Happy New year!

Bill Thanks for starting the thread! Good enough is good enough, LOL. Hope you enjoyed your black eyed peas.

Andrea Great job on maintaining over the holidays!

Lily Welcome to the group. I get a lot of great support here, and hope you will too.

RobinW Congrats on completing your 21 day challenge! I hope you get on the scale. Here's an analogy from CBDL that may helpIf you woke up one day and weren't feeling well, you might take your temperature and use the information to decide what to do. If the thermometer read 98.6 degrees you'd probably go to work. If it read 102, you'd probably stay home and call your health-care professional. You wouldn't think, Oh this is terrible! I can't believe I let the number get so high! I'm such a failure! No of course not. You would just use the number on the thermometer as a guide in deciding what to do. She suggests we learn to see the scale in the same way. Take it or leave it as you need to.

freer I hope you enjoyed the Jazzercise. I'm glad you are on plan, and hope you are giving yourself credit for maintaining over the holidays.

Jean Glad you got a break from el nino's sickness so you could deal with your own. Hope you feel better soon.

Susan Good to see you back here. Nice work on that big WW loss over the holidays, and extra credit to you for figuring out how to work around that injury!

Chris I hope the EEO people can help your DH. Two hours sounds promising. Hoping 2009 is your year.

onebyone Sounds like you are getting your life and your home straightened up and that has to feel as difficult as it feels good. You have to find a food plan that works for you. Glory is such an inspiration, but I really have to work some junk food in every day, or I end up in a face plant in a bag of chips with peanut butter cups and ice cream chaser if I don't keep the junk food monster tamed. The 100 calorie packs are wonderful for me since I don't have to portion up my junk food anymore, and deal with the temptation while I'm doing it. Other people can't touch them without setting themselves off on a carb-induced binge.

I'm interested to know how the Arabic food store is.

Happy New Year everyone!

Anne

BillBlueEyes
01-02-2009, 06:28 AM
:welcome: Lily (lilyyoung) :welcome:

Welcome to the Beck Diet Solution / Complete Beck Diet for Life Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Coach / Diet Buddy Group.

And, in honor of your first post on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you initially find out about The Beck Diet Solution?

And how did you find 3FC and this thread?

BillBlueEyes
01-02-2009, 07:26 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Was a lazy laid back New Years Day. Did get in a nice long walk in the bitter cold. CREDIT moi.

Worked out a new method with DW for minimizing needle shed while removing the Christmas tree. We tilted the tree over on to a large tarp which then served as a sling to carry out the tree. Worked like a charm - no needles on the rug or floor of the front hall. Seems like our trees are dryer each year, and shed more.


onebyone - Ouch for the roller coaster part, but Big Time Yay for the contact with your mother and with the other members of your family.

Kudos for moving forward with your cleaning and decluttering. That encourages me to keep up with my challenges in the clutter department.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Dinner at a "legendary Italian Restaurant" sounds fun. Kudos for giving yourself credit even when you didn't feel like it.

Heidi (landlady6) - Waving. Hoping your DD let you sleep in on New Years day.

Robin (RobinW) - What a neat story of mother/daughter bonding over Nintendo DS. I think it's amazing that she gave you a Nintendo racing game - that's a pretty positive image of her mother right there.

Kudos for the success of your 21 day challenge. Methinks I'm in agreement with onebyone on the weighing issue. Perhaps a good reread of the (several) chapters in Beck about preparing to weigh in would be helpful to get your mind around not being tweaked by the number. However, I recognize that YMMV and that a period of avoiding the scale might be your choice.


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Ouch for the dislocated thumb and for the disruption to your Curves routine. But Kudos for continuing your exercises using DVDs at home. And Congrats for that weight loss using WW. That's a hefty chunk gone in less than 4 weeks.

Anne (wndranne) - Thanks for thinking out loud about navigating the 5 Stages starting from your current location. 'Tis good to find a path rather than blow the whole thing off because the fit isn't obvious.

Special Kudos for mindful eating despite a fatigue factor around 8.


freer - Yep, Kudos for giving yourself credit for making it through the holidays "unscathed". What does starting Jazercize at "1 class again" mean?

Chris (Anglemoma210) - Good news about your DH's long conversation with the EEO folks. Continue sending supportive thoughts for a good resolution for you guys.

Seems like you're making a wise choice to pursue your a-fib with your doctor. Good luck with that.


Andrea (thinkerbell) - Congrats on maintaining that 21 pound loss. And Kudos for starting 2009 with nothing hung over.

Lily (lilyyoung) - Seems smart to make keeping up with your exercise a priority for 2009. Many folks find their weight loss stalling if they aren't working exercise into their plans. I find that my gym provides motivation for me when I'm not feeling it myself. And I find it easy to adjust my workout around whatever body parts aren't operating at their best. Is there a nearby gym with a water aerobics option?

Readers - "But before you change what you eat, you learn important skills:

• How to motivate yourself every day, make dieting a priority, give yourself credit, and cope with hunger and cravings.
. . ." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 14.

RobinW
01-02-2009, 09:23 AM
Good Morning

Thankyou onebyone, Anne, and Bill for your imput on the scale issue. I sort of did what you suggested onebyone(you got me thinking about it), then read Anne's post later last night(more thinking), and Bill's post this morning cemented it. So........I got on. Im not thrilled but it moved down! My first 21 day challenge netted me a 16lb loss. Ok, so after reading Anne's post I realized that yes the scale is a tool. I also "know" that certain things help speed the process along....and that when I dont do these things, it reflexs in the scale. Water is a biggie!!! The more I drink, the more I loose.....add planned exercise and the weight will come off consistently for me.

What did I learn? Drink my water!!!!!

Bill~ Yah for a relaxing new years day :) ....my dd commented when we were driving home yesterday that she was happy I didnt really drive like I did in her game!! :lol:

onebyone~ Kudos for working out your plan! Im glad you got your mom on the phone too :)

Anne~ Im loving watching you work thru the new book!! Thank you for sharing here!

Speaking of the new Beck book, I picked it up yesterday. Dd and I went out shopping again yesterday and this was on my list to pick up while we were out.

Food was right on yesterday, exercise was walking the malls (again) but not nearly enough water. A small kudos tho, I bought a bottle of water in the mall yesterday.

Today starts my 2nd 21day challenge. Planned exercise....15minutes worth at a minimum everyday!

I need to get some grocery shopping done today too.

Have a great day everyone!

onebyone
01-02-2009, 10:39 AM
Good Morning Coaches

I woke up feeling awful (just girl stuff again but worse today) so I had to cancel my day out plans with my friend. *sigh* That's not what I wanted to do today... Oh well.

On the plus side the scale moved down today. That was good. Down now 5lbs and heading toward that 235--which would be a 10% weightloss and my first goal to meet.

Oh not feeling great, must go.

wndranne I just love reading that you are a 6 year maintainer. I find this to be always inspiring. Thanks for the thoughts on junk food. The 100 calorie packs are at times okay for me and at other times dangerous. Right now, they'd be dangerous. I do agree that a total ban, for me, is even more dangerous. I always want what I can't have.

BillBlueEyes Kudos on solving the needle shedding messiness. That can be very irritiating. And kudos on walking in the bitter cold. Is it still that cold there? Did you get that giant snowstorm Nova Scotia got?

RobinW 16lbs off?! Wowsa! Kudos to you. Your body loves you! I had a loss too and would agree that water is a key ingredient. Perhaps it is
portions of healthy food + water x exercise minutes / perseverance = favourable result? Whatever. I think water is key.

Everyone enjoy your day.

kuhljeanie
01-02-2009, 10:50 AM
hi everyone,

another flyby today...still really sick. might be time to visit my doctor. bleeech.

welcome lily!

RobinW
01-02-2009, 11:04 AM
Thanks onebyone!! Congratulations on your loss too!!! I forgot that I was going to post a picture of my snowman plate I painted at the paint your own pottery place. Here it is.....I did the santa plate the other day, and I think dd and I will go back either tonight or tomorrow.

thinkerbell
01-02-2009, 02:09 PM
Hi everyone!

I just wanted to let everyone know that I am starting a 28 Day De-cluttering program by Denise Linn that I found for free on Hay House radio....I am dedicating my mornings to listen to the audios, meditations and do the exercises.....my mornings have been my time to post here.....so I will probably not have much "internet" time to post here...(time spent on the internet is something i must also be aware of!)

I'll be lurking, I am sure....I just know it takes a bit of time to do the personals, but its what makes this such a great thread. I'll be back and I'll be rooting for you all! I just did not want to vanish from the thread, without letting you what's going on with me.

Best wishes for '09!
Andrea aka thinkerbell

angelmomma210
01-02-2009, 02:18 PM
Morning diet buddies.

Got my advanage cards redone for the new book. Also talked and read to dh about being my live buddie. LOL He said that he would and he said he may read the book too. Kudos for me.

Am starting on stage one and we will see how long it takes for me to get this engrained in my brain. I am really open to doing this now.

It snowed here again..dh said that it did not feel like snow last night and I said it did.

Plan on going to a movie today..I plan on drinking water only there. Plan on eating before I go.

Have a good day.

QuilterInVA
01-02-2009, 03:20 PM
Good afternoon!

Angelmomma, I hope things go well for your husband and he gets back to work soon. Great plan for the movies!

Andrea, good luck with your plan. We'll be here when you are ready to start posting again.

OnebyOne, :carrot::bravo: on the weight loss!

KuhlJeanie, I hope you get to feeling better soon.

Robin, :cb::cp: for your 16 pounds. We all have bumps in the road, it's how we handle them that makes the difference. Hope you are feeling better! Sorry you had to cancel your day out.

BillyBueEyes, good idea on the tree removal. You could probably make your fortune selling "Christmas tree removal devices".

To everyone else, I apologize for not answering you directly but I'm out of time.

Have a good day!

davidette
01-02-2009, 03:26 PM
I've never posted, or even had much occasion to visit, a site like this before so I'm feeling awkward. :o But I'm determined to be more conscientious about following all Dr. Beck's advice this time around. When her first book came out, I gave it an intense effort, excepting for finding a diet coach! I was very successful in losing weight and in fact in using cognitive behavior in other aspects of my life. Unfortunately, as time went by, so did my enthusiasm and the pounds crept back. This year, with her new book, I'm starting back at square one. I'm hoping to use this site as my diet coach. I'm trying not to succumb to feeling like I know it all already; obviously I don't because here I am dieting again. Instead of falling back on the excuse I can't find a coach, I'm reaching out to try something new here at this site. Scrolling through the entries I see lots of support and encouragement. It's wonderful to find other "believers"; my friends think the Beck program is just too hard. I even noticed someone had mentioned "Brain Rules" which I just finished reading and found fascinating; I love when science corroborates CBT. Thanks to all for "being here"

RobinW
01-02-2009, 04:27 PM
Hi Davidette :welcome3:

AnneWonders
01-03-2009, 12:05 AM
Coaches/Buddies Today was a fantastic day. I ran for myself, starting the C25K plan over again to rebuild from injuries, I played outside with DD for a while, and rolled on the floor with DS. I followed my food plan exactly. I gave myself credit, used Resistance Techniques once or twice, and just generally had a good, uneventful day, Beckwise. Cards are read, journaling is done, and Success Skills Sheet is all checked off. I finished day 5 on-plan so I'll move on in about another week, probably a week from Monday since that fits with our shopping schedule (DH has a thing about grocery shopping schedules and it is easier just to play along). I listened to some nice music to destress, did some deep breathing, reading for pleasure, stretched, and got 7 uninterrupted hours of sleep last night. I almost feel human.

All this goodness and the stupid scale is stuck! Fortunately it only measures the attraction between the Earth and I, and not my worth as a human being, nor my success at running my own life the way I want to. Stupid scale.

I noticed that my handwriting really deteriorates when I'm tired and there are a couple of old cards I need to get around to redoing!

My parents left this morning, kids were decent with their behavior, and even slept enough for me to cause controversy over on Calorie Counters this afternoon. I got a package today from the UPS guy, something I ordered a few days ago, and with my short term memory problems, I had completely forgotten. So it was like a wonderful present out of the blue, just what I needed and wanted! I guess there is something positive to be said for every situation, eh? I ordered a new book today to try it again.

Tomorrow I'm going to try to do the NRLW Stage whatever, workout whatever (need to look it up) to get my strength training back on track, and contact my triathlon coach and let her know that we're probably on for more like February or March to start training for my June race, because I'm just not there yet.

I looked over the Stage 2 food plan and detailed food lists for my 2000 calorie level. Some of it is a little wonky- 7/8 c of yogurt for example, but my usual diet (well, ideal diet) can fit in the plan. It is a little protein heavy for my taste, and I like to keep my protein kind of moderate (most people would say low) because I feel better that way, and I'm trying to avoid kidney stone #3. There is also no way I'm giving up my regular pasta, as opposed to whole wheat, although I'll continue to measure it as I always do.

Back in a moment with personals...

Anne

AnneWonders
01-03-2009, 12:19 AM
Bill Nice tree technique. We went to artificial some years ago, because the dogs got a little confused about the nature of inside versus outside with a real tree. Nice going on the walk in the cold. I hate cold, so double credits to you.

RobinW Sixteen pounds in 21 days! Huzzah! Very nice. If you don't mind my asking, why are you disappointed with that? Hope the new Beck is motivating and helps you stick to your 21 days of exercise. Cute plate!

onebyone Sorry about the girl stuff. Feel better soon! Nice work on the 5 lbs.

Jeanie That doctor idea sounds like a good one!

Andrea Keep up the good work while you're decluttering. I dejunked the kids' rooms today, and feel a whole lot better. Next up, books.

Chris I'm happy that you are able to find the time and mental energy to do some Beck stuff. Hope you enjoyed your movie!

Susan :wave:

davidette :welcome2: 3FC is a wonderful place, and the Beck group is very active and supportive. Your intro just resonates with me--I started posting on the BDS thread in, hmmm, maybe November 2008 (memory problems, sleep deprivation, just smile and nod) , and you can read about my history there.

Anne

BillBlueEyes
01-03-2009, 06:37 AM
:welcome: davidette :welcome:

Welcome to the Beck Diet Solution / Complete Beck Diet for Life Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Coach / Diet Buddy Group.

And, in honor of going active on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about The Beck Diet Solution - Wow, back when it was initially published?

And how did you find 3FC and this thread?

lilyyoung
01-03-2009, 06:53 AM
Hi everyone. Thanks for the warm welcome. It's going to take awhile for me to get to know everybody. It's 5:41 AM here in chilly Queens, New York. I weighed myself--I usually wait till later in the morning. I am very upset that I've been gaining weight for several days instead of losing. I have been looking at Beck's diet in the new book and tried to incorporate some of the principles. A 1600 calorie level may be too high for me. Let's be honest: last night's dinner was a rather larger than planned slice of pizza. After that I had a cheesecake brownie at Au Bon Pain-yum, but too many calories. Then I went to a meeting, since it was someone's one year anniversary. They brought goodies and I ate a bakery style cookie, a couple of bites of a tuna sandwich and had a 100 calorie yogurt when I came home. Ok, I binged. I think Beck fatigue is setting in. I am resistant to doing a lot of the tasks since I did them the first time around in the September-December work with Beck Diet Solution. HAS THIS HAPPENED to anyone here? Falling off the Beck wagon, not sure what diet to be on, gaining weight? Also I haven't been as comfortable with my diet coach. I see her every day at work, and there are some strains in the relationship.

Ok, this is my current plan. Read through the rest of stage one in the new book. Make all the cards she suggests and add them to the collection that I am currently reading on a daily basis. :dizzy: Try not to be rigid in my thinking--I can do some of the cognitive techniques from the new book with a different diet. Go back to Weight Watchers and see what their current diet is all about. Decide whether to be on it or not. Be active on this board. Thanks to everybody for being there. I will go read Advantages deck now, my response cards, especially the one about getting back on track. I have to give a talk at a 12 step meeting at 10:30 so I hope I am in a better mood by then!
Lily

BillBlueEyes
01-03-2009, 07:39 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Work. Ate. Gym. Walk. Ob-la-di. Ob-la-da. CREDIT moi.

My contribution to dinner was to peel the Hubbard Squash which DW baked and mashed along with a green apple. That's become one of our favorite winter veggies. I learned that that whole squash only makes two meals for us, which caught me by surprise - I'd have guessed half the squash would have done that. One of my challenges in learning about cooking is learning the volumes of raw foods required.


onebyone - Congrats on the loss. Ouch for feeling awful. Hope today gets better.

Re Boston's snowstorm: Nope, the big snowstorm missed us - just got four inches of fine powder, almost a pleasure to shovel. But it was bitter cold on both Thursday and Friday.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch for "bleeech." Something on this thread seems to be contagious.

Robin (RobinW) - hmmmmm... 16 pounds in 21 days is an over-the-top large loss. Is there a typo somewhere? Congrats on the loss, whatever its size.

Bon Voyage on your second 21 day challenge. And thanks for the picture of your snowman plate - now that a fun addition to a table.


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Thanks for the tip on making my fortune with "Christmas tree removal devices". Lets see ... should make then organic, all natural, 100% recycled, cost saving (compared to hundreds of $$$ to have the house professionally cleaned), and fun, LOL.

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on seven hours of un-interrupted sleep. And BIG Kudos for your whole suite of moving-forth-with-Beck-strategies accomplishments. Love your perspective:Fortunately it only measures the attraction between the Earth and I, and not my worth as a human being, nor my success at running my own life the way I want to. Stupid scale.It's certainly worth considering that the scale is simultaneously measuring the mass of the earth, which could have an unusual increase due to meteors and other falling stars. Hardly worth getting miffed about the earth's problems, LOL.

LOL at the implication of your dogs getting confused about inside vs. outside with a real Christmas Tree. Ouch.


Chris (Anglemoma210) - Kudos for getting a real life Diet Buddy. And Congrats for your prediction of snow; with that level of accuracy you could replace our Boston Weather Forecasters who average only slightly better than 50%.

Andrea (thinkerbell) - Bon Voyage on your "28 Day De-cluttering program." May you get rid of all the excess baggage. Looking forward to hearing about it since I'm a member of the clutter tribe who still has much clutter remaining.

Do remember to keep up with your Beck strategies even as you concentrate on de-cluttering. We'll be sending you silent positive thoughts until we hear from you again.


davidette - Yep, I for one would be delighted to be one of your Diet Coaches (and, for the new book, one of your Diet Buddies). Hope you'll be a Coach/Buddy for me as well.

Neat that you're a CBT believer - Beck has certainly made me one. Did you incorporate CBT into other areas of your life just from Judith Beck's book?

Would be interested in your thoughts about Brain Rules. I've moved it to my Amazon shopping list but haven't purchased it yet.


Readers - "But before you change what you eat, you learn important skills:

. . .
• How to consistently use good eating habits: eating everything slowly, while sitting down and enjoying every bite.
. . ." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 14.

davidette
01-03-2009, 12:07 PM
Robin Love your avatar, the panda eating the X; never seen a moving one before.

Anne I just did the same thing, forgot I ordered a book; what a nice surprise, a gift that is exactly what you wanted! My mother has dementia and I try to find benefits: she never holds grudges, can't remember when I get cross with her, marvels at a card / photo over and over, each time with fresh joy.

Bill When the first Beck diet book came out, I overheard a talk show discussion and having always had a strong interest in the mind body connection, this was immediately appealing to me. At that point I was successful in using the program to lose weight and even extended the sabotaging thoughts / retraining principles to everything from having a more positive attitude, improving my relationship with others, and reducing my caffeine intake! Unfortunately most, but not all, of those gains have dribbled away as I returned to my former habits.

I'm fascinating by neuropsychology. It's wonderful that so much material is available for the layperson now. Brain Rules is very entertaining and most impressive was the author's insistence on strongly documented findings; no "leaps of faith" required. The emphasis is on how we can learn and produce / create more effectively. It comes with a DVD so be sure your copy includes that. I've been 100% satisfied with purchasing books in used condition via BIGWORDS.com. I'm a big reader so my habit of eating while reading is going to be a big hurdle.


I found 3FC by googling "beck diet coach" and this forum seems to be just what I need. I'm struggling with the urge to jump right back on my old diet: very low calorie, lots of exercise, because it does work for me; obviously I can't maintain it. It seems very fortuitous a new Beck book offers new tools right when I'm starting over with the program. I have to resist jumping ahead; take it step by step, and practice the skills before I actually diet. When that time comes, I'm going to use the Beck thin plan. I'm a vegetarian but I'm sure I can make it work anyway.

Wow, you've maintained your weight for 1 year and 9 months! I can't imagine not being obsessed with food; either undereating or overeating. Do you find you have more time and energy for other things because maintanence has become a habit? That's one of my dreams. I would say "goal" but it feels more like a dream.

Anyone else out there a vegetarian? I do eat eggs and fish but no chicken, pork or beef. Someday I hope to eliminate refined flour and sugar, but .... baby steps for now!

kuhljeanie
01-03-2009, 12:15 PM
happy saturday my coaches,

sinus draining has begun in earnest. while it's not exactly entertaining, it's progress in the right direction, and i'm glad for it. beloved DH took el nino to get a much-needed haircut this morning, so i have a little negotiable time. much treasured! i'm going to pick up my drycleaning and luggage from the repair place. funny that this is enough to get me excited these days. :)

i've started making plans for the first initial weaning from bistro. i put together a grocery list and meal plan to start making my own breakfasts (similiar to my favorite bistro meals.) it's really more for cost-savings than anything else right now, but i'm hoping it will build my confidence that some day i will be able to maintain a healthy weight without the delivery service. still very very happy with them - i'm within a pound of my pre-cruise weight, and have PMS. can't ask for more!

welcome davidette!!!

hi lily! yes, and yes. oh, yeah. been there. i have to admit that there are whole sections of the work that i've just, well, not done because they seem to onerous (7 question technique, anyone?) do you think you're not losing weight on the 1600 plan because it's too many calories, or because you're struggling to stay on it? i find it hard to tell what's working when i meander (binge). there's no shame in trying another plan if the one you're on isn't working - but it might be worth figuring out what it is about it that's not working (as opposed to assuming it's the calorie level.) could be your macronutrient ratio, exercise, etc. just a thought.

angelmomma, it's nice to hear the change in your voice! can't wait to hear how things go for you.

onebyone, so pleased to hear that you're back in the saddle and feeling good about your progress. have you found those decal thingies for the cabinets?

anne, sounds absolutely lovely! second bill - love thinking of the scale as something that measures "the attraction between myself and the earth." LOVE it. :)

good luck andrea! i love hay house. i'm a big michael neill fan. cheers! and kudos to you for being proactive in making space for one thing by consciously reducing time spent on something else instead of cramming.

hi bill! we've got a tiny 50's aluminum tree we put up, but we hang it with dreidls and hannukah gelt. for some reason that tickles me. not a big deal to take down, either - just a few shavings. :)

waving at susan and robin!

angelmomma210
01-03-2009, 12:35 PM
Good morning Buddies.

Did a little more on beck last night. Landed up not going to the movie. Have a cold started and just did not feel like it. Told dh to go as I needed some time alone. Since he has been home it has been hard to get some time for me. We do tend to do alot together.

Got my woman's world magazine and just read it last night and then I went to bed. About an hour later dd called and we talked for about an hour. Dh came home so then we talked for a while.

One nice thing about dh is that he will not let me look at the bills or the bank account as he believes that this will get me upset...and he is right. He said to let him worry about it and just to think positive. That is what I have been trying to do. When a negative thought comes...I say a prayers and in my head sing a positive song. It does help me.

Dh is still trying to get unemployment. The unemployment people are checking into why he was fired. When approved (positive thought) they will owe him a few weeks. Will let you know when that happens.

Plan on doing some beck today and also some spinning..no not the bike the real spinning with yard and a spinning wheel. Have not done it for a while but am gonna start today again. Even if it is just for a few minutes.

I may not comment on what everyone is doing, but I do read it and it helps me alot. You are so positive (usually LOL). I do want you to know that I do care and you all are in my thoughts.

Have a great beck day.

maryblu
01-03-2009, 02:00 PM
Happy New Year Beckies!

I saw Dr. Beck on CNN about an hour ago. Anyone else? It seemed so weird that the host was calling her "Judy". I just think of her as Dr. Beck, or Judith Beck; "Judy" just seems waaaayyyyy too casual. I am interested to know if anyone else saw her. I was not impressed with her interview at all. If I weren't already a "believer", I would have categorized her as another diet guru with some merit, but not the solution I know her to be.

I love the "believer" reference, Davidette, and your observation that Brain Rules requires no "leaps of faith"; I definitely have that on my short list of must reads. I am enjoying your insights immensely.


angelmomma210, I am happy for your finding a real life coach and happy you are staying with your cyber -coaches as well. I really watch your situation closely, and share everyone's concern and good wishes for a fair outcome for your DH.


Kuhljeanie, I share your pain with the sinus thing. I don't do sick at all. All I have is a headcold; it started yesterday and it is not that bad at all, already better, but I am such a baby. I never get sick. I have about one head cold every four years. So, head cold got me investigating the neti pot. I had read about in in You, the Owner's Manual and now in my new exploration in You, being Beautiful. Such a weird concept, but very valued by Dr. Oz and Dr. Roisen. It seems so gross, and adds another 3 minutes to a daily routine, but intriguing nonetheless. Anyone have any experience with such a thang?

Wndranne love the reference to weight as what it really is--a measure of gravity. The quicker we get rid of that scale-as-the-only-measurement, the better. When I initially lost the weight, I only weighed once or twice a month; I always used the same scale in one of our labs, the old fashioned balance beam kind. I love those.

BillBE, thanks for once again stepping up to be our Cyber Sheppard for another year. I never take it for granted that you will lead us; it is so reassuring to know you are there. And, yes, it throws me, too, on those rare mornings that someone beats you to the first post.

Not much new to report on the senate seat; last I heard there was a 49 vote difference. I wish there were someone here from Chicago, or at least IL so I could poke some fun another direction for awhile. Kidding, all. The IL thang is NOT funny. Ours is just messy, as democracy sometimes is. This thang is a tie. It is. There is no way for any state to know that every single vote has been counted, and counted accurately. If we were sure that every single vote had been counted, and counted accurately, then if there were only a one- vote difference, so be it; we'd have the winner in this election. That is not to be, and I hate it that the courts will decide.

We have all struggled with the diet coach in person, it seems to me. I find this method of Beckies -as -coaches far and away the best for me. You are here 24/7, you know the plan and have great insight. I can't imagine having a coach in person committed enough to read enough to know how to coach. My BAG ladies (Beck Accountability Group) is just a group of us giving moral support, awareness, credit to each other. I rely on all of you.

To all Beckies I have come to know and love, and to the new ones, big wave and shout out. Apologies for any offense on my lack of personal etiquette and not finding all the much appreciated Beckie contributors for a personal shout out; I am sure as time goes by we will all "touch each other", and with luck, when we need it most.

lilyyoung
01-03-2009, 03:30 PM
I really like this thread. Hope I wasn't too negative before. I went to Weight Watchers and found out about the new Momentum program, which doesn't seem to me to be that different from the old Flex program. They tell you about the Set Points on week 5 or something. I will go back to counting points and trying to eat more of what they call filling foods-high fiber and high lean protein foods. I am very comfortable with points because I've been doing them on and off for about ten years. Problem is, at my weight, age and activity level WW thinks I can survive on 20 points--too few calories instead of too many! So I am going to modify it upwards to meet my needs. I get stuck on wanting to do things "right" instead of finding what's right for me I am in a much, much more optimistic mood, and I'm going to respond to a bit of what I read. I'm enjoying reading everyone's posts!


Davidette,thanks for reminding me cognitive therapy is based on science.
one-by-one and Robin:congratulations on the weight losses!
andrea/tinkerbell:congrats on the de-cluttering. My 3 new year goals (not resolutions) are diet, exercise and de-cluttering. I'd love to hear how you progress.
KuhleanieYou might be right--I really didn't give the new plan a solid try.
Bill,thanks for starting this thread. I found it by googling--I've been on a yahoo group for beck diet solution, but it has been fairly inactive lately.

RobinW
01-03-2009, 04:35 PM
Afternoon

Bill~ no, that wasnt a typo. But I did go back and redo the math just to make sure. Im starting at over 130lbs over weight....and the first 25 usually comes off very quickly. Its the rest of it that takes its time. The plan is for this to be the LAST time I need to take that first 25lbs off again!

Anne~ my issue with the scale was being afraid that it would not have gone down the last 10 days of my challenge. It did...about 3lbs. After thinking about the total loss, I was pleased. It just took some time to sink in.

:wave: to everyone...I'll stop in for more personals tomorrow.

Last night and today are big emotional days. I am having a really hard time stopping myself from binging. Not even on the good stuff.....Im finding extremely difficult to keep from stuffing until that "feeling" comes back. :( It's not a good thing to do, not even with allowed foods.

Tomorrow will be the worst....stuff happening that I have no control over....I plan to take Beck's new book and start it tomorrow morning. Hopefully that will keep my mind occupied.

Have a great weekend everyone.

onebyone
01-03-2009, 08:02 PM
Good Evening Coaches

I'm feeling mopey this evening. I was feeling pretty rotten the last couple of days and discovered that I have ZERO willingness to NOT use food to feel better. I went off plan to feel better yesterday. Now since I was feeling bad I didn't go out and buy x and x and x like I wanted but I ate fruit and abandoned my foodplan searching the fridge, grazing on food at times and then alternating this with not eating (until I am light-headed) which is as harmful as overeating AND I find my mindset telling me "It's good not to be eating. At least you'll lose weight or you won't gain any." yeah I still really really believe this. But what really got me was that I was totally conscious of my looking for food to feel better and telling myself so what?
This time I didn't really find it but where is my resolve? It's not there...is it?
Ugh. This is so not easy. I think I am feeling doubt about my foodplan but I'm still going to go forward with it. How can I make an accurate judgement when I've spent 2 days not well, and then not having my food planned or purchased. On Monday I am going to the school with my co-worker and will make a trip to the grocery store to buy some staples for me. That should help a lot. The folks on that other internet board I go to get support for my specific foodplan of choice are all gearing up for a Monday start so, like here, it helps a lot to have folks on the same page with you.

What's nagging me is I want a PERMANENT SOLUTION. I don't want to dabble with something and waste time. I want to get it done. I am SO TIRED of losing and gaining and losing... talk about a rut... Coaches plese tell me I can do this? Man. I need some kind words. I need to get this done. I just want to be healthy. Why is that so hard?

*end of grumbling*

RobinW Hi! :hug: I don't know what's triggering you, or me really for that matter, but I'll keep you in my thoughts and if you keep me in yours maybe we can both usse tomorrow as a fantastic opportunity to build our resistance muscles... I'm in for many more days feeling like I have been with this final school semester coming up. It's going to be brutal, and I feel so DONE with school! So I'll try if you will---> :lifter: here's us building our resistance muscle. Or is it more like this? ---> :wl:

lilyyoung Hi! I am glad you are giving yourself permission to adapt your foodplan to your needs. One size does not fit all. I am trying to take the same approach too. I think we must find what works for us so we can be true to ourselves in order to continue for the longterm. As your coaches, we're here to help and support. All the best!

maryblu Hello. I didn't see "Judy" on the TV but I often get those kinds of feelings when I even see an author's photo on the back of their book. it;s too bad she came across like that. She has SO MUCH knowledge and wisdom but interviewers and publicists want to reach the mass market and they always always dumb it down and try to appeal to stereotypes as a means to get info across quickly. The details, alas, are always lost. Too bad. OTOH CNN does horrible interviews. I think it's tough to come across well on there. Nice to see you posting!

angelmomma210 You're a spinner? I know a few of them. Do you weave too? I met a woman who spun dog hair and then used it to make catnip mice! I bought one...thought that was hilarious:rofl: She would gets bags of dog hair from customers and then make them yarn. She ahd her favorites and her not so favorites... Good for you for taking time for yourself, and for picking Beck up again. You're moving forward. Kudos.

kuhljeanie I'm glad you guys are all on the mend. :carrot: Kudos for being so close to pre-cruise weight. Wishing you much success replacing Bistro meals with homemade versions. As for the decals I am not focused so much on that for now as trying to START with the living room and the clean-up and re-arranging of it to make room for the wii fit (ugh. we may be waiting even longer!! I think I am going to email DBIL to mail the darn thing! We were going to go up this week to get it but may not have the $ to do so :( )

davidette Hello. I think it's great you're deciding to go through the Beck book systematically. It is important. Many of the exercsies I thought were easy turned out to be hard! I still catch myself eating standing up for instance...and the Believe It chapter? I could use a refresher on that alone and focus on it all year I think! (these were in the original book...I am sure they must be in the new one?) Nice to see you posting!

BillBlueEyes How's your garden planning going? I wanted to recommend a books to you. Square Foot Gardening. It's a great book for a first timer to plan a garden. And it will amaze you how many plants and how much variety you can place into one square foot of garden. It's probably not the way your DW did the garden either so you can really claim it as yours! I used to have a community garden too (until they threw us all out and put a highway over it! grrr!) and I saw it as a great space to try things in. I LOVED seeing the oldtimers and their gardens. So great. The Square Foot Book is meant for those who don't have a lot of space, probably not an issue wiht a community garden, but the information is so straight forward its easy to apply. And a novel approach too. thought I'd mention it. BTW don't forget to try growing kholarabi! They are a wonder to watch grow and a delight to consume. My Hungarian grandparents always grew them and they were a STAPLE for use in soup. I get them when I can.
http://www.amazon.com/Square-Foot-Gardening-Mel-Bartholomew/dp/0878573410

I feel better now. Thanks coaches.:hug:

AnneWonders
01-03-2009, 11:47 PM
Coaches/Buddies I'm getting used to just writing down my food plan and following it. I find myself just going to look at my plan at snack time, and then just going and getting that food without lingering or wondering or worrying about what if. Sort of freeing.

Only one significant deviation from the menu plan today: the addition of cheese to some leftovers in preparation for dinner. A modest amount of part skim to be sure, but I did a Cheat Sheet on it anyway, and on reflection the fact that I heated it up in a pretty serving dish made me want to make the dish a little more special. The cheese was a nice addition and would have been a very reasonable thing to put on the plan and I learned that 1) dressing up leftovers is legitimate and good so plan for that, and 2) fancy serving dishes do not mean it is OK to deviate.

I did really well with my Skills Sheet today, so I'm calling it on-plan day 6. I started lifting again today with NRLW, Stage 1, Workout A2. I'll probably be sore tomorrow. Weight is still suffering from that sudden meteor storm, but I'm wearing smaller clothes now--I went "shopping" in my prepregnancy bin, so I'm getting somewhere. Stupid meteors. :)

Sleep was terrible last night with DS having a 2 hr spell. It took a while for us to figure out he wanted double the usual amount of formula for whatever reason. Kids were pretty good today though, and DH took DD to Home Depot with him when my whine register pegged, so I recovered.

Lily I do understand diet fatigue, and it tends to come and go. Do the best you can, and if you have a coach that isn't working out for you, change it. I think your plan is a good one, but I'd also include some enriching stuff that isn't diet related--see a movie, meditate, run, just whatever makes you happy. Things are easier when you are happy. Glad you are finding a way to make WW work for you. One size does not fit all.

Bill Squash and apple sounds like a really cool combination. Thanks for the meteor thing. Being a former astronomer, I like it a lot. It helps to put some humor in the situation.

davidette Wow, I'm sort of glad you have/had the same memory issue and same response to getting a nice surprise delivered to the house. Makes me feel a little less pathetic. I was once-upon-a-time a vegetarian, years ago. I eat meat now, but not too much, maybe a serving a day, but not always.

Jeanie Hooray for drainage! Did I really just type that?? Hope you continue to feel better. I know you'll be able to continue your path using your own food with a little planning and prep.

Chris You sound so positive today and that is good to read!! Spinning wheel! Wow, so interesting. How did you get into that? What will you do with your thread?

maryblu I found a link to the video on the CNN website, but it was broken. Hope you get a Senator, any Senator soon.

RobinW :hug: Hope you get through your emotional days unscathed. I'm still in awe of 16 pounds.

onebyone You CAN do this! Acknowledging that you are searching for food for "bad" reasons is a huge step. And you do care, obviously, that is why you are here. For me, this is where the Beck stuff comes in--helping me to connect those two ideas which should be connected. The "how do I get myself to do this" comes from addressing the thoughts behind the behavior with CT. Keep doing Beck. It will literally rewire your brain (thanks Brain Rules), and make this easier and permanent. Permanent doesn't mean perfect, or easy, but it gets better over time.

See you all tomorrow!

Anne

P.S. There is some new stuff up at the old book website (Google it--it is too close to the link policy here) regarding the new book.

BillBlueEyes
01-04-2009, 08:18 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Wow, somebody should have warned me about Costco. Made my first trip. The GIGANTIC sizes of everything made me crazy. I started Desiring stuff I never eat, and wanting huge containers that, at our consumption rate, would last for years. My head was so spinning that I ate every one of their samples - including canned Chef-Boy-Ar-Dee ravioli. Good grief. Oh Well.

But finally came up for air thanks to a sour, complaining sample server who was loudly whining to her buddy about how stupid the customers were grabbing for the stuff. "It's not like it's food, it's just this," pointing to the hot dog in a biscuit appetizer. Boing. That hit me. I took my grabby hand out of the line, and moved on. CREDIT moi at least for listening to her. Without her, I might still be there, LOL.


maryblu - Ouch for a disappointing CNN interview by Dr. Judith Beck (nope, not a Judy type to me either). The 12Jan09 Time Magazine (delivered yesterday) reviewed 4 diet books, and The Complete Beck Diet for Life got the strongest recommendation, particularly highlighting that there are no forbidden foods.

Ouch that Minnisoda continues to struggle with the senatorial election. I too find it grating to hear proclamations of what big wigs will or will not tolerate - you speak for me when you suggest that the registered voters alone own making that choice. Hope you get someone there for the first week when the trillion dollar bailout comes ramming through.

And thank you for the kind words; "Cyber Shepard" is an new phrase for me.


onebyone - Ouch for mopey and rotten. And Ouch for struggling to get on plan when it's difficult for you to get stocked up with your on plan food. Yep, I believe that you can do it, I believe that you can keep working until you get your food choices in house and have a fighting chance of getting full steam onto your plan. Sending supportive thoughts as you fend off the barrage of Sabotaging Thoughts - they can be countered.

And thanks for recommending Square Foot Gardening. That does seem like my kind of book, and just what I need. It's difficult to learn the basics from DW since she's long ago forgotten the struggles to understand all the new stuff at once. And will add kohlrabi to my way-too-long-to-plant-it-all list of veggies. I'm beginning to get into this.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Kudos for planning your next eating plan. (A lot of "weaning" going down on this thread, LOL.) Congrats on approaching your pre-cruise weight.

LOL at your aluminum tree with "with dreidels and hannukah gelt." Love it when you send me to the dictionary - apparently there is no gelt except for hannukah gelt. Too bad, it's such a delightful little word.


Robin (RobinW) - OK, so BIG Congrats for an amazing weight loss. may you never see it again.

Ouch for the emotional stuff. Sending supportive thoughts for you to make it through the next couple of days.


Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for doing the Cheat Sheet for the cheese - inspiring to me to see you using it again; I'm in need of taking that strategy seriously to catch some deviations in my eating.

And Kudos for marching forward with your CBDL as well as NRLW. Congrats that your success is sending you "shopping" in my prepregnancy bin. And laughing at your "Stupid meteors."


Chris (Anglemoma210) - Just great to hear your upbeat tone (as mentioned by others). Neat that you plan to do some spinning. Reminds me that I own a necktie, in an impossibly thin early sixties style, that I cherish because it was spun, woven, and made by a friend back in the, well, in the sixties. Do you have a project in mind?

Lilly (lilyyoung) - Kudos that you have made specific plans for moving forward using the new book, and are designing your new plan from components that have worked for you in the past.

hmmm... wasn't clear from reading that the food choices you described that they came from an eating plan for the day. One of Beck biggest contributions to me was the notion that it's much easier to eat from my written, plan for the day, than it is for me to make new decisions each time I confront food. And Anne (wndranne) describes that nicely in her most recent post. Getting back to having a plan might help you get back on track. The writing and recording seem to be important components. Many of the strategies are meant to be incorporated into every day life - eating sitting down, planning and recording each days foods, saying NO CHOICE to food that's not on-plan, giving yourself credit - she lays them out nicely in the first chapters of the new book.

I'm glad you're here and giving yourself a new start. Since all of us are just starting the new book (released 23Dec09) we're all in about the same place. You've chosen a good time to restart.


davidette - What an inspiration that you observe the benefits of your mother's dementia. Reminds me of a friend who says, "He's still in there, just expresses himself differently," about a guy who can still respond, very emotionally in fact, to shared music, even though recognition of individuals is long gone. Sending supportive thoughts for dealing with a tough issue there.

Not a vegetarian here, but increasingly less carnivore. I shudder to remember that, before my healthy journey, I'd refer to DW's marinara sauce without meat as spaghetti and ketchup. Ouch.

Re "More time and energy when maintaining?" Interesting question. I certainly spend less time angsting about "getting more" food. But more time planning and preparing food (I now prepare and bring my lunch to work). But certainly have more energy for everything - both physical and psychological. It caught me by surprise that healthy eating takes some time.


Readers - "But before you change what you eat, you learn important skills:
. . .
• How to plan in advance what you are going to eat, monitor your eating as you go along, and stick with three meals and three snacks a day.
"The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 14.

lilyyoung
01-04-2009, 08:44 AM
Good Morning All!
Anne, thanks for the nice words! I looked at your profile--two baby girls, congratulations! How many kids do you have? (I'm not too swift on all the abbreviations, but I figured out DD is dear daughter.) I'm so impressed that you're an athlete, and working out and doing this with babies and a spouse.

So far it's been a great morning. I weighed myself and I'm down 2.8 overnight. Ok, I know most of it is water loss. But it is still so nice to see that number again. (158.6) I may even try to figure out how to move my tracker.

I made dinner, chicken cacciatore (sp?) from the new WW materials and it wasn't bad. Cooking is not my strong point and Phil (my live-in boyfriend) liked it.

On the minus side, I was completely obsessed with Weight Watchers and points yesterday, reading all the materials and thinking about nothing else. I have to be careful about all this because I do suffer from an obsessive disorder and I guess I should do this in a healthy way.

Today is a challenge since I am going to an event (a party celebrating 21 years of OCA, a group for people with obsessive disorder!) There will be a buffet. I have some idea what will be served, so I wrote down a plan. I don't expect to follow it exactly, but I will try to keep it moderate, and keep serving sizes in mind. No seconds! Fortunately dessert is usually quite small.

[B]Bill[B], good morning. Your post appeared a few minutes ago. Costco is amazing--and not very useful for someone living alone. (A friend took me there a couple of yeas ago when it was just me and the cat and dog.) Bravo for stopping the sampling at any point! After reading that Dr. Beck was on CNN, I googled around, got to one of Dr. Beck's sites and saw a TV spot on her which was done before the new book. She spoke well. I also listened to a part of a radio show she did. Everything she said is in keeping with her books. It's just different hearing it said out loud! [I]I just[I] read your comments to me. Thanks. I am going to write down my plan in advance, and sit down, etc. I am struggling, though, with an issue about making substitutions. In my mind it seems ok to switch foods. For example, if I'm eating lunch out--which I usually do when I'm at work--and I wrote down soup, a fruit, and a piece of bread, a typical lunch, and I feel like having a lowfat tuna salad sandwich, why can't I do it? (Definitely my adolescent rebel.)

Thanks for being there everyone! It's time to get my adorable Maltese out of her cage and let her run around the apartment. Have a wonderful day with satisfying food and good times!:hug:

RobinW
01-04-2009, 11:01 AM
Im here.

I caught myself planning my binges yesterday and everytime I worked my way around it, my brain started a new one that gave me a new angle. It was exhausting :faint:

I managed until about 10pm......ended up eating 3 monster sized sugar cookies, and 1/2 a sandwich.

This morning.....ate a blt at Tim Hortons and had my hand in the nacho chip bag at 9:30 this morning :dizzy:

The chips are headed for the garbage....I pulled my hand out to post here :(
I have no more cookies (also tossed) The only thing that may tempt me is the ice cream. However its just too cold to eat that stuff, so Im ok with that.

I knew this was going to be very difficult. Compared to my past reactions to this emotional upheaval.....I did very well. It's a quarterly event, and has gotten better since I dont have to actually see the "ex" in person.

So as Im typing, Im remembering that I am giving my experiences the power they shouldnt have. I have control, I control how I feel, I control what goes into my mouth.

Say Oh Well, and start right back to it right now!

Thanks for reading everyone.....Im feeling a bit better now :hug:

onebyone
01-04-2009, 11:24 AM
Good Morning Coaches

The kitty woke me up at 9am. Seems I was sleeping in too late; she was right. I head into the school tomorrow (if I can find my co-workers phone number! yikes!) for the day. Much work to be done there and still much work awaits me here. Hard to believe this long holiday stretch is just about done. Boy did I need it.

The buses are still on strike here but the federal Minister of Labour has ordered the union to allow a strike vote on the proposal passed in front of them by the city that the union did not want its members to vote on. There will be repercussions down the road on the Minister's move to do that I suspect. Consensus is the workers will vote yes for it but I am not so sure. Not being a bus driver, I can have no real idea what that contract means to you if you are a bus driver. OTOH I would love to be able to get on a bus again and go where I need/want to go. This is getting very old.

I feel much better today, more hopeful. I'm about to walk over to the mall and get some stuff and the day is bright and sunny out there. A good day to get out. I'm going to write down my food for the day and I am back on track 100% and that's that.

wndranne Thank you for writing about writing down your food. it is important and today I will do just that. All of your posting about the new book makes me really want it. Thanks for your supportive words too. Sometimes I just feel so hopeless but I do know enough that it is just a mood, just feelings and feelings pass on through. And I may need to read Brain Rules too if it's about re-wiring your brain! I love that topic. Our brain is fantastic.

BillblueeyesI believe Costco is selling Dr. Judith Beck's new book and I have been trying to arrange a trip there with my friend to pick up a prescription for me at their pharmacy which means I will be in their store (I have a membership).I got their magazine mailed to me and it had an ad with her book in it so I hope to get it while I am there. Costco. DH worked there for almost a year. It's all strategically planned and, of course, nothing is an accident. Their sales keep going up and up and up. They hire older than average workers, and pay them above average wages, even when you start, with regular opportunites to advance within the company...they promote from within. if you are looking for a job look there. If you are in a position to be '"forced to do retail" go there. A drawback is scheduling though. They say you can keep another job as they only hire you part time but really, they expect you to be available when they call. Most people accept it for the wages and the other stuff and hope that the next time people are made permanent and full time their name will be in the hat. Why did I tell you all that? Well, hope you were semi-interested. DH left that job to work for himself as an online poker player. He did that part time while at Costco, and made more money online that at the store, and so it goes, 3 years later, as he pays my way through school plus all household bills. and THAT is another story. Thanks for reminding me I succumbed to sabotaging thoughts.

lilyyoung First off congratulations on the weightloss! Woo:carrot:Hoo!
You are smart to write your food down. I am doing that too now. And I understand the feeling of not wanting to follow that which you have chosen for yourself too. Perhaps you need to make it okay for yourself, formally, in writing that you are allowed to substitute x and x and x? That way you cover your actions and remain on plan defeating the "I can never do this" & etc. sabotaging meanies? Also, when I am starting something new and learning it I DO pay much more attention to it as I am learning how to do this. Your focus on your plan is normal given you are just beginning again. It'll ease off as you get in the swing week and week after week. Don't fret. And as you have skills in dealing with OCA issues you are more than equipped to catch yourself if you go to far. Trust yourself. You know.:hug:

And to all other Becksters, lurking and reading, have a great Sunday...hope you get a "day of rest".

golfgal7
01-04-2009, 01:30 PM
I have the Beck Diet Solution in book form then I got the CD version. It is great and very motivating to listen to in the car.
Cheers:D

bennyhannahmama
01-04-2009, 04:59 PM
Coaches
I'm not really sure why I haven't been on here (just one more thing to do and I couldn't handle one more thing, I guess), but I'm looking forward to being back. I am happy to say I made it through the holidays (although they were very depressing due to this being the first set since Ross and I have separated and my brother passed away. Exercise helped me immensely and I don't remember the last time I've ever enjoyed or needed exercise as much as I have lately. I am really enjoying that and taking advantage of it. As a matter of fact, I spoke with my dad yesterday and he has offered to pay for me to join a beautiful local gym here in town for the year! So sweet of him. Interesting, because he told me that when he was going through his divorce from my mom, the gym was such an integral part of his survival. Kind of cool to connect with my dad about that.

Have spent some time @ the movies with the kids (Marley and Me and Bedtime Stories) and made good food choices there and throughout the holidays. I went shopping for new jeans and went from a size 12 to a size 8!

My weight continues in a downward trend, although slowly (which I am perfectly fine with!) I have made a commitment to myself to run a 1/2 marathon on May 31st!

I have continued to be in touch with some old guy friends from college which makes life a little bit interesting, although stressful at times too.

Oh and for New Year's Eve, I went out BY MYSELF! Went to a bar that I knew was going to have live music and ended up dancing the night away and having a blast! It was really scary to do, but I've never been so glad that I pushed through my fear and did it. It was incredible to usher in 2009 by myself, it felt like such a huge milestone.

Oh, I ordered the new Beck book (the older one is overdue at the library and I've already renewed it as much as I can) and it should be coming any day.

I intended on doing personals for all posts since the beginning of the year, but I'm thinking now that it might not be the most realistic thing for me right now. So, I will start tomorrow :)

Looking forward to being back in touch with those I've already "met" and looking forward to meeting any newbies.

Here's to a FANTASTIC 2009 for all of us!

angelmomma210
01-04-2009, 06:12 PM
Good afternoon buddies. Well the best laid plans went down the drain. I did plan on spinning yesterday,but my cold got the better of me and I went to bed earlier than I planned.

I also got on the scale and boy was it is shock. I cannot believe how much I have gained since I have been home for winter break. But that is okay..today is the start of a new day and new week. I am on plan today and am journaling. Dh says that when I journal I do alot better.

I do appreciate all your comments and they do help. We go to sam's wearhouse...or at least I should say I send dh as I have a hard time there with the samples too. So I just try to stay away. When I do go with dh when we get near the food area...I put dh's hands around me as I am pusing the cart...that way I can't get to the food. LOL. It does work.

Still trying to stay positive...the scale set me back for a few minutes..but that number doesn't rule me...I am more than numbers on a scale.

Well need to go as I do return to work tomorrow after the dr. appt. I will let you know what the heart dr. says. Have a great day.

AnneWonders
01-04-2009, 11:16 PM
Coaches/Buddies Another on plan day. Seven down. It is getting to be habit, and a lot less energy and white-knuckling is required. Right where I need to be. I just keep making lists and checking them off. Almost boring after the burst of energy needed to start this plan.

Things have settled down enough that I made an exercise plan/schedule for next week. I'm a little sore from the lifting yesterday, but not terribly so, so I think my plan is pretty doable. Running three times, lifting twice, and one each bike and swim, which I made optional if I'm sore and need to rest. Dinners are planned for the week, which should make the rest easy. Lunch is packed and clothes laid out for my run tomorrow, which is my first day back at work after holiday shutdown. Kids go back to daycare, ahhhhh, so I should have some whine-free time again.

Bill We mostly get diapers at Costco, and now formula, and a short list of other stuff. Thank goodness they don't take our credit cards or we'd just be hosed. I think I mentioned DH has a little problem with buying too much stuff there.

Lily I hadn't updated my profile in ages, so thanks for asking about that. I have a daughter, 3 years old, and a son, 7 months. It was fortunate that I picked up a sport (triathlon) for a hobby, because it really helps me to maintain. Losing is all about the eating for me though. There have been several debates on the Maintainer's Forum about what food planning/counting etc counts as "obsessive" and what is a necessary reaction to an unnatural food environment (I paraphrase). I hope you find the right balance for yourself.

RobinW I hope you gave yourself credit for holding out until 10 pm. That is an accomplishment when dealing with issues. Good for tossing the offending foods. One thing I used to do during the Big Loss was just go to bed when I wanted to eat at night for illegitimate reasons, so I'd just sleep the cravings away. Once upon a time I was an insomniac, so this was a big deal to me.

onebyone Bad/unhappy moods always feel to me like they will last forever. I have to work to remember that they pass, as long as I let them. I'm really good at wallowing in it if I let myself, so I don't. Sounds like you aren't either. Glad you got outside--that helps me as well.

golfgal7 :welcome: I never thought about the CD version in the car. I could rip it and put it on my iPod. Hmmm....

Kim Good to see you back here. I understand not feeling like you can handle one more thing. Sounds like your life is taking a lot of positive turns and I'm looking forward to hearing more about how you are making this happen for yourself. Congrats on your downward weight trend.

Chris/angelmomma210 Have you been keeping up on the meteor shower scale theory? ;) But seriously, it is a new day, and a new start and it sounds like you have a great attitude about that. Journaling is a good step. I hope you get what you need from your doc.

See you guys tomorrow!

Anne

PS It is raining here tonight! Very nice change-up for us.

landlady6
01-05-2009, 01:39 AM
Hello friends!
Some personals: it is so hard for me to keep up... I love reading it all though and try to contribut when I can. I go back to school tomorrow (although we got a few inches of snow this evening that is supposed to melt... not typical WA weather patterns lately...). I am bummed since I love styaying home but also do much better with the structure of going to work so, in that way, I look forward to it. I have my arcs typed out and a few response cards as well. AND I am "wiing" alot too.. very fun. I feel motivated right now and plan to run off several copies of the check off list to begin tomorrow (from the new book). Kudos to me...I also chopped up veggies for lunches this week and made an asian inspired chicken number in the crock pot for me to eat for lunch as well.

Maryblu: I do the netipot! I LOVE iT! My doc a few years ago recommended flushing with a baby syringe..I bought the syringe but never did it-too gross. Then Oprah had someone show how the netipot worked on her show-they actually demod it on th eair..there is also a youtube vid of someone doing it. I hate actually doing it but love how I feel afterward.. sort of like exercise! :) Seriously.. try it..I used to get sinus infections quite frequently..now i use that thing when any inkling of a cold comes around..

I did not see "Judy" on CNN but read something that she wrote... cannot for the life of me remember what it was..but she signed it "Judy" and I noticed that also-she is SO Judith to me and always will be! :)

welcome Lily! Good for you to adjust the points according to hwat you think your body needs..

RobinW-good luck tomorrow.. I know how hard it is to get past emotional eating... you can do this!

onebyone: I feel your pain... I am just now gearing up in my head after being in your mindset for several months. I did a lot of damage in those months. I am just now doing the first stage in the new book and printed out my arcs and response cards and so it is super fresh and motivating to me to think of REALLY thinking about those advantages. It is so hard to care when you just don't but if there is any way to distract yourself or get past this-is this the girl time? Hormones could be coming into play as well.. I wish that I had the magic words.. I understand and totally struggle the same way.. we can do this... What is your biggest reason for wanting to eat healthfully/lose weight? lol at the woman who made cat nip mice out of doghair ...

BillBlueEyes: I LOVE Costco but always end up going out the door with more than what was on my list. LOL at the sample server etiquette coach...

BillBlueEyes
01-05-2009, 06:22 AM
:welcome: golfgal7 :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Coach / Diet Buddy Group.

And, in honor of your first day of posting on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about The Beck Diet Solution?

And how did you find 3FC and this thread?

BillBlueEyes
01-05-2009, 07:23 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Because our schedules conflicted, I ate dinner alone last night, from leftovers. Good choices of leftovers and that deep satisfaction of emptying four small containers from the fridge. CREDIT moi. Then DW can home unexpected early and I joined her for her dinner, sharing some soup and crackers. Off plan; Oh Well. Then rushed off to my 7pm meeting where there was, unexpectedly, a table of snack food. Took some baba-ganoush and a homemake pumpkin brownie. Double Oh Well. Not too much of anything, but definitely in need of some of that ole time NO CHOICE if the face of unexpectedllies.


onebyone - Hope you are headed off to school with your friend. Kudos to your federal Minister of Labour for taking an action to try to break the impasse with the buses. [Note to my spell checker: Down boy, I am quite happy with L-a-b-o-u-r, thank you very much.]

Thanks for the tips about employment at Costco. There are parts of their operation that would appeal to me - just the efficiency of the whole thing. Little things like the cooler for special order cakes is serve yourself. Find your own name and pick up your own order. That makes sense to me, including the polite sign that reminds us that other people might have the same last name so kindly check the whole name, LOL.


Heidi (landlady6) - Kudos for preparing the meals for the week, and for "wiing" alot, and moving on in the new Beck program. Ouch for the old tension between the benefits of the structure of the work week versus the joy of unstructured play week. Hope all your kids return from vacation ready to settle down and do school work.

Robin (RobinW) - Ouch for the 10pm monsters. Kudos for gathering your wits per, "I have control, I control how I feel, I control what goes into my mouth." Continuing to send supportive thoughts as you deal with this quarterly emotional event.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for marching forward with the new Beck plan. Just love "It is getting to be habit." I can picture Judith applauding. You sound like you have the week planned; thanks for the demo that the way to make it easier is to plan it in advance.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Big Kudos for continuing to increase your social events. Your New Years Eve celebration sounds super fun and so liberating for you. And Kudos for setting yourself up with a gym membership for the year.

Glad you're getting the new Beck book so that you can start the new program with so many of us here.


Chris (Anglemoma210) - Kudos for keeping your perspective per, "I am more than numbers on a scale." And thanks for sharing your strategy at Sam's Club - putting your DH's arm around you to remember to stay in control. I'd like to try that one, but my DW would rather have her teeth drilled than to go into a warehouse store - just not her thing.

Good luck with your doctor's appointment.


Lilly (lilyyoung) - Congrats on your loss, even if overnight - it's always encouraging when the scale is validating. Kudos for making a plan for your meeting where food is expected.

As to substitutions: I substitute; that works for me. Others don't; that works for them. I get this feeling when I'm off-plan in my worst eat-like-there's-no-tomorrow manner. That's the feeling I've got to avoid and substituting doesn't send me there. YMMV. Good luck in working that through. I'm a big believer that you gotta work each one of these out to fit your own style. What's easy for one of us might not be the thing that's easy for you.


golfgal7 - Neat to use your travel time to listen to Beck from the CD. Makes me wonder if the new book is on CD yet.

Readers - "The Role of Thinking

Some dieters erroneously believe that they can't develop a strong resistance muscle because they think they eat "automatically." they say they don't know how they finished the box of crackers or the bag of trail mix. But eating is never automatic. Digestion is automatic. The beating of your heart is automatic. Eating is not." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

davidette
01-05-2009, 10:20 AM
angelmomma210 I gather you are dealing with unemployment. Having recently been through that with my husband, I know how incredibly stressful that can be. One thing that helped me was the idea that you are more likely to get what you focus on. Everyone believes focusing on a goal helps to achieve it; success will probably not drop in your lap, whatever you want. The reverse of that is focusing on what you don't want; that is, worrying about what might happen, would tend to bring you that result also. This concept that worrying would bring me the very things I fear was enough to break the cycle when I started tail spinning into anxiety. "It will all work out for the best" became my mantra. I still use it when I start worrying this job won't last. That and deep breathing! Hope it helps.

maryblu Interesting you'd bring up the neti pot; I have recently been using mine again. I've been having a chronic slight sinus drainage in the back of my throat and after using the neti, it feels like I can breathe clearly again. It's like a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately it doesn't last but so long before the drainage comes back. If I could manage to use it more frequently I think it would help get rid of this, probably for good. About 25 years ago I used it all winter, morning and night, and did not have a single cold that season. Could have been because I was 25 years younger and healthier, but who knows?

onebyone My daughter got a Wii fit for Christmas and we played on it yesterday. When you get it set up you are going to enjoy it. I'm sorry she'll be leaving in a few days to go back to school, taking it with her. :( I really like the balance games; even though I'm terrible at them, you can't help but laugh and enjoy yourself.

Bill I'm a regular Costco customer so I know exactly what you are talking about. At one point I was able to go in there with specific rules: You can't eat standing up, so if you want the sample that bad, be willing to wrap it up and eat it in your car or at the snack bar later sitting down. (2) Don't taste anything you aren't considering buying. The first time I managed this I was on top of the world. I'm going to be there again someday and stay there this time. I'll be using that thought "it's not like it's food"; how true and how motivating!

Thanks for the sympathy re: my mom's dementia. Actually its helped me focus on rewiring my brain NOW. She's pretty much locked in a loop. If I have to "lock in" I want it to be in a positive place.

I'm trying to use the workbook for the first Beck book in combination with the new Beck book and the days / skill order don't quite agree. In an event I'm going to stall for a few days and work on conscious eating. I've got to stop thinking of it as torture in my mind. It's just a habit.

I was beating myself up for the things I didn't do yesterday until I looked at what I actually did do. So I ate twice with my family on a planned "no distractions" day, I also ate mindfully alone 3 times. I didn't make a post here, but I did read the current posts and honestly, as I sat at the table alone having my evening snack, feeling sorry for myself that I couldn't at least curl up with a book at the same time, I thought of you guys being strong in your own ways, all across the country. Being part of a group does help tremendously. Thanks everyone for being so interested and interesting!

kuhljeanie
01-05-2009, 10:44 AM
the sinus draining continues. (sounds like a dishy soap, no? ;)) i brought my gym bag to work today, which may be a touch over-optimistic, but it's possible that yoga class won't involve a lot of inverted poses. shall see. if it does, i'll be delighted to spend 45 minutes walking on the treadmill. i don't want to overdo it, but i can't help but think that a little more movement than i've been getting will make me feel good.

credit moi - put together my bistro-style breakfasts last week, and ate the first this morning. it took me about an hour and a half to make up about 20 breakfasts. not too shabby - and there's a learning curve to it, for sure. i've got some room to get better with my egg rings. the trick will be figuring out the right temperature to start them cooking, and the right amount of egg in the ring, so they don't "leak" into the pan. i ended up with 4 good ones and two scrambled egg breakfasts. nothing lost!

a happy sidebar to the economy sucking - the monday morning doughnuts and bagels have been eliminated to save money. wish the coffee hadn't gone away with it, but i have tea at my desk, and they're still generously providing unlimited quanitites of hot water. :)

glad to be back at work!

great catch, bill! i can't handle sam's/costco either. i either go beserk or make myself crazy trying NOT to go beserk amongst the mountains of mini cream puffs, frozen taquitos, buffalo chicken pastry bites, and buggles. it's too much. DH does the sam's shopping for the family, usually less sexy items like diapers and cat chow. it's great that we have different issues. :)

hiya heidi! i know how you feel about the love/hate relationship with the structure of work. it's almost a relief to be back, but i'm already dreaming about my next vacation (and bummed about how long it's going to be until we can afford it.) oh well!

anne! sounds like my plan too! i'll miss the kid, but i won't miss the whining. he fought tooth and friggin nail this morning against taking the antibiotics for his ear and eye and screamed about having to wear a coat. cried all the way to daycare...he's somebody else's headache now, bless him. :) your exercise plan is very similar to mine!

hey onebyone...so been there! the good thing is that a mopey mood passes just like a storm cloud, and you know that you can't REALLY use food to make yourself feel better, because it doesn't. and OF COURSE you can do this (but you already know that.) how tired are you these days? what's really bugging you? you already have a permanent solution, but it's a process, not a result. so. sounds like you're already feeling better!

morning robin! sounds like a HIIT workout for your resistance muscle. does it feel sore? :) kudos for fighting the fight! sounds like the damage was far less than what it could have been. go you!

hiya kim! nice to hear from you again! i used to travel constantly for work, and ate meal after meal alone in restaurants. it freaked me out in the beginning, but i got used to it and started to like it after a while. what a nice thing, to enjoy your own company! happy new year!

hi angelmomma! great strategy for costco! :) hope your appointment goes well.

heidi - was the neti pot a mess when you first started using it? i'm intrigued by it, know it's supposed to work well, but i get freaked out by the idea of it.

welcome golfgal!

hi lily! enjoy your event tonight. sounds like a good plan!

kuhljeanie
01-05-2009, 10:54 AM
sorry davidette! looks like you posted while i was typing. isn't it amazing how quick we are to beat the crap out of ourselves for the things we do wrong, and never consider how much we do right? the way you're handling your mother's illness is inspiring.

cheers!

RobinW
01-05-2009, 12:30 PM
Good Morning

Bill~ Costco is a dangerous place sometimes!! Mind you I did find a really nice fish from those samples. Im taking issue more with the employee that should have kept her mouth shut!! It might have stopped you, but you were stopped the wrong way. hmmm. Thank you for your supportive thoughts coming by way. :)

davidette~ Big Kudos!! Sounds like you did really good......and when you are sitting there feeling alone, know that you really arent. We are all right there with you :)

kuhljeanie~ sounds like a HIIT workout for your resistance muscle. does it feel sore? Ha!! I never thought of it this way, but man you are right that is exactly what I was doing with my resistance muscle!!!! My brain hurt too :lol:

Isnt it a funny thing about the doughnuts and bagels....when you ask for them to be removed they dont. Money crunches and they are gone!! Kinda cool tho that you no longer have to deal with them!!

landlady6~ Kudos for getting your veggies chopped and the crockpot filled up!!! It always helps so much to have stuff ready to grab out of the fridge!

Anne~ Yah for whine-free time to yourself!! That alone is just heavenly! lol .......no I didnt give myself credit for holding out until 10pm. I berated myself for giving in. Thank you for pointing out that in its own little way it was a small success. :)

angelmomma~ :wave:

bennyhm~ Kudos for committing to your half marathon!! Awesome!!

onebyone~ did you get your walk over to the mall? It was beautiful out yesterday wasnt it?!! Today too, but its super slippery on the sidewalks.


Alright well yesterday wasnt a total loss, but it wasnt the greatest. As kuhljeanie suggested, I did HIIT with my resistance muscle yesterday....pretty much all day. I cleaned the entire house trying to keep my hands from putting food into my mouth. I did pretty good until after supper. I will say tho, that compared to the past yesterday was ok. I dont have the intense guilt I usually have over my behaviour. It wasnt good, but it wasnt a food free for all. Is there such a thing as a controlled binge? If so, that is what happened.

Its over.....until March :sorry:

I am back in control and feeling ok with myself :)

Today's plan.........go out and get a new pair of runners. Leave them by the treadmill so I have one less excuse! Ive moved the weights as well and my exercise ball so everything is in the same place.

Healthy food is packed for lunch, hubby is making another cup of coffee and everything feels right in the world again :D

Have a great day everyone!


Im going to post this here.......then come back and add more. Im having trouble with loosing posts.

onebyone
01-05-2009, 01:52 PM
Good Afternoon (what already?!) Coaches

I re-arranged my work schedule since I didn't find my co-workers number, but I didn't look that hard for it ;) I will go in Wed to Fri this week. Today I am getting some more cleaning done and trying out a new exercise routine recommended to me. It's called T-Tapp. Here's the link:
http://www.ttapp.com/try/index.html I just wanted to do something for 15 minutes and I guess all these samples are about 15min put together. Sounds intriguing. I have no idea what this stuff is about, which is also intriguing. I also discovered a whole bunch of recipes to try so I am a happy camper. Kudos moi for looking ahead and PLANNING FOR SUCCESS.

My friend is going to pick me up tomorrow morning and we'll have a coffee together and plan our weekly art project for 2009. We always make a committment to do something on a reg basis and haven't committed to that yet. Not sure what we'll be doing yet. And he's also going to take me to the Costco so i can get my bp meds and we'll probably leave there so I can do some grocery shopping, so I am glad to be looking at recipes and planning my week today. Kudos moi for all this planning again.

I did two other things to further my goals: I joined Freecyle for my city on the net and just posted that I have boxes and boxes of magazines from 2006 to 2008 to give away, unsorted just take it. A major de-cluttering obstacle for me are those magazines. AND I also wrote a email to a local orgainzation called Just Food who help citizens set up community gardens in their area. We are a dense housing complex with a varied imigrant population, many of who would I am sure love to grow their own vegetables. Seems there is a heck of a lot of lawn around here that would be much better served as gardens. As it is there is a meeting about how to do this kind of thing on Jan 19th and I asked to be put on the list to attend, promising I'd be there unless the bus strike thwarts me. Maybe it'll be over by then? :crossed: I have wanted to do some community service but there wasn't anything I was that passionate about to be so social but this? This I believe in and would happily give my time to. Kudos moi for stepping out of my box.

That's it. Oh I did just have breakfast by candlelight again at my kitchen table in my morning sun kitchen. i ate mindfully (kuods moi) and peacefully.

RobinW hi! yeah I got to the mall, and back! I think you did okay yesterday so wanted to send an officialy kudos for your controlled binge. We make progress by baby steps...:hug:

kuhljeanie that made me laugh about the cost cutting re: bagels and doughuts! Guess they were feeling the pinch on that one eh? :lol3:

davidette Kudos for eating alone and for really trying and being aware of Beck principles. that's all good. And it helps me too to remember I am not alone trying to change the way I think and react to food. I am glad you are here posting with the rest of us.

BillBlueEyes Oh well is a very valuable strategy for when we go off plan isn't it? We just get back on track. It takes all that self-hatred and berating out of the equation. One does not need lead to the next... going off plan to staying off plan. This equation no longer computes. Look all these brainiacs say it doesn't compute either! :write::book2::comp: hahaha!

landlady6 Kudos for pre-planning your food. So very important. I keep going back to that... Thanks for your thoughtful response to my post. The black cloud thinking has left me for now. As for the doghair catnip mice, the one I bought was labrador retiriever! (hmmm or was it labradoodle?)

wndranne Congrats on getting so many days in that it's starting to get boring! This means routine...awesome! And yeah, getting out into the sun really helped yesterday. I get cabinfever :dizzy: when I am inside too long.

angelmomma210 I am hoping you hear what you need at the heart Dr. to feel better... glad to see you feeling more positive and looking ahead... it's what a new year is best at I think!

bennyhannahmamaBig Kudos for all those positive actions you've taken lately. Wow. Nice to see. And good to hear from you too... keep going!

golfgal7 :welcome2: Glad to hear you too are finding good things in the Beck book. Me too. It really helps. Thanks for posting!

Off to try out that T-Tapp! update: yikes! t-tapp looked too complicated for me today so I opted to do a 15minute 1mile WATP workout instead. Will attempt t-tapp another day!
Enjoy your day....

QuilterInVA
01-05-2009, 03:34 PM
Good afternoon! Wow, the group is growing - that is a good thing! I don't have time for personals today but I have read all your posts. They are so inspirational. I order Dr. Beck's new book from Walmart online for $15.81. It's not available in their stores. Hopefully it will be in by the weekend so I can spend some time reading it.

I was doing good with my weekend until yesterday. Friends invited me to go for coffee and a bagel after church. I decided the bagels were so big and the scones were so small, I'd be better off having a scone. Unfortunately not so. Anyway, I decided to just have soup for lunch to make up for it. That left me hungry and the next thing I know I'm eating P&B sandwich and a Slim-A-Bear ice cream bar and a handful of cashews. Needless to say, that blew my day apart BUT I did get back on track with dinner and didn't wait for tomorrow and continue eating. Credit moi for that. Next time I'll just have coffee. It was stupid to have the scone when I was even hungry.

I am so looking forward to being able to get rid of the brace for my thumb and getting back to exercising at Curves. Friday should be the day.

Two things I've learned - planning is the key and forgiving yourself if you slip and getting right back on plan with the next meal.

Well, I have to get to work so have a good evening!

angelmomma210
01-05-2009, 10:53 PM
Just a short note to let you know what happened at the dr. I have not been on what they call beta blockers...that is suppose to help your heart not go into a-fib. I had an older german dr. and he said that I should try them..the first one I tried quite a few years ago..did not work. Am gonna try a newer one now and see how that works. If I can stay away from surgery...I will.

On plan today. Felt good. Not much other news here. Thanks for the new manra..I love it. Thanks

AnneWonders
01-05-2009, 11:29 PM
Coaches/Buddies Still doing really well. I had a small off-plan moment today with some coffee at work when I was really fighting the fatigue (bad sleeping last night). It was hours old and I added some half & half to make it drinkable. Oh Well. Tomorrow's lunch/snack box includes a diet Coke. Maybe not the best choice, but Oh Well. It would be lovely if I got a good night's sleep and didn't need it. I ran tonight and am ready for lifting again tomorrow. Scale is finally cooperating and weight is down. I'm doing my Beck exercises. Tired tonight, so apologies if I'm a bit terse on the personals.

Heidi Wiing sounds like fun! I have a diving game and a safari game waiting for me on Friday. Can't wait! Hope school went well.

Bill Watch out for the big post-holiday burn out! Gets me almost every year I don't prepare for it. Lots of unexpectedlies around.

davidette Glad this group is helping. Mindful eating is a tough skill. I think we just shortchange ourselves with all the stuff going on. Eating is supposed to be pleasurable and I find it weird I have to remind myself of that.

Jeanie Hooray for donuts being banned, but boo for coffee. I'm seriously impressed you are doing anything with a young son and an illness. I generally turn into a zombie. My kid-free day was nice if a bit empty; how was yours?

RobinW Sounds like you made it through in much better condition than you expected and I hope you count that as success. Getting your exercise environment together sounds wonderful.

onebyone Nice that you found a way to benefit your community and help yourself at the same time!!

Susan Good job getting back on track immediately and not waiting until tomorrow!

Chris Crossing fingers that the new meds work out for you.

OK, off to read, and then to bed. I'm skipping my evening snack because I just don't want it--not hungry, and it (popcorn) isn't appealing to me tonight. Does that count as off plan? I'm off plan then.

Have a good one!

Anne

lilyyoung
01-05-2009, 11:50 PM
thanks one-by-one. It's so much easier to see myself as a failure than as a success! enjoy the gardening.

angelmomma, I hope it works out with the new medicine.

thanks landlady, bill and others for your comments! I'm still learning who everybody is, and I'm often tired by the time I post, so please forgive me if I forget to acknowledge some of you. I like it when people post pictures of themselves--but I understand the desire to keep some privacy. I know I haven't done it either--yet.

It was an okay day on Weight Watchers. Yesterday I had rebound eating after my event. I only saved 4 points (about 200 cals.) for dinner, but instead I had movie popcorn and diet ice cream out, and came home and had pizza, so I was up a pound this morning. I wasn't able to get on track during all that, but I started back on track this morning. I've managed to avoid signing up for the gym, but hopefully I will do it sometime this week.

It's good for me to hear that even successful maintainers, like Bill, sometimes eat in an unplanned way. Goodnight, all,
Lily

landlady6
01-06-2009, 01:08 AM
Hi team,
I am feeling like I am getting my mojo back.. feels GREAT. I am actually shifting my mindset to REALLY feeling like I want to take care of myself. I have always wanted to want to... and have gone through bouts of doing so but to WANT to...are you with me? I feel tired right now and think that I will actually...go to bed. Usually, I would do a bunch of random stuff online (this doesn't count as random..this is intentional, this beck board stuff! :)) and probably eat a bunch of food.. I am slowing down and realizing that my body doesn't need or, when I am still enough I can realize, want any food. Whoa..that is new territory for me. I am in this habit of expressing freedom when my daughter goes to bed.. so that is when I stay awake and do random stuff so that I can "enjoy" being alone... ??? Kudos to me for...eating mindfully today-I caught myself a few times going onto automatic and slowed down. I got on the wii this morning and did some yogaand weighed in. I set a 5 lb goal on wiifit and am moving in the right direction! I LOVE pedicures and have decided that, for every 5 lbs I lose, I will get a pedicure. NICE!

Anyway,
BBE: I am sorry about all the unexpected food temptations-that BITES. I loved your description of the difference between making substitutions and being "off plan".

davidette: Thanks so much for the reminder of how we go for what we see- is so true!

Kuhljeanie: the netipot is really no big deal-even the first time I used it, it wasn't too bad. The water should be lukewarm and I use just a small amound of that saline powder that they tell you to use. It really does relieve the pressure temporarily. Seriously-watch the youtube video (search for it-there are several but the first one is what I have seen) exactly how it goes... am always so impressed with your commitment to exercise...

RobinW-you sound like you are being a littler gentler on yourself. Easy for me to say since I am VERY hard on myself too.. great to distract with housecleaning-that is a win win! And oh well for the controlled binge. :)
onebyone: big kudos for taking the initiative on that community garden cause. And for clearing out clutter and for planning ahead and keeping things fresh with new recipes. will have to google ttapp...

Quilterin VA: great attitude for getting back into the groove of this-I am in the same camp.

angelmomma: sounds like it is worth a try to avoid surgery-good luck!

wndranne: ou are on a roll! It is hard for me to keep up with personals as well.. we all do what we can right? Way to pay attention to hunger with the popcorn...

lilyyoung: Great that you are back on track-keep up the hard work.
Heidi

BillBlueEyes
01-06-2009, 07:48 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - I had to bring food for shared snacks to an evening meeting, so brought red bell pepper strips, cucumber slices, and cilantro hummus. CREDIT moi for bringing something that I wanted to eat rather than crackers and cheese which I thought the others would prefer. I was one-upped by a truly mindful eater who brought raw turnip slices for her dip. They were great - who'd thunk.

onebyone - Big Kudos for attacking those old magazines. It just amazes me what our barriers to a sane environment can be. Here's hoping that some school teacher is desperately looking for a source for cutting out pictures and jumps at your offer.

Heidi (landlady6) - Yay for Return of the Mojo - sounds like a good movie. Kudos for giving yourself credit as well as for getting in your wii exercise.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for being back in control. Yay for new runners. Yay for "everything feels right in the world again." I will remember to send silent supportive thoughts your way each quarter when suffering the pain of paying estimated taxes - seem appropriate that those two events are linked, LOL.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - LOL that a benefit of the weak economy is loss of FREE donuts; now that's the kind of benefit I can use. Ouch that you're still working sinuses. Kudos for preparing such a wad of Jeanie-Bistro breakfast's. (Patiently waiting to hear that you're starting a business delivering designer diet meals.)

Anne (wndranne) - Yuck for old coffee. Double Yuck for adding half and half attempting to make it drinkable. BTDT. (It wasn't, of course, but that never stopped me, LOL.) And thanks for the reminder "Lots of unexpectedlies around."

Speaking of gaining weight, do you have any insight into our collective 50% overnight weight gain, perScientists mapped the Milky Way in a more detailed, three-dimensional way and found that it's 15 percent larger in breadth. More important, it's denser, with 50 percent more mass, which is like weight. The new findings were presented Monday at the American Astronomical Society's convention in Long Beach, Calif.

That difference means a lot, said study author Mark Reid of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass. The slight 5-foot-5, 140-pound astrophysicist said it's the cosmic equivalent of him suddenly bulking up to the size of a 6-foot-3, 210-pound NFL linebacker.

And does it give you shivers to think that you could present a professional paper and have the press describe your weight and build for all the world to ponder?


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Neat summary, "Two things I've learned - planning is the key and forgiving yourself if you slip and getting right back on plan with the next meal." Gotta agree with those.

Ouch for the scone - they're evil. Prior to my healthy journey I had a scone at the airport Starbucks at least once a month - thought I was eating something healthy, LOL.


Chris (Anglemoma210) - Kudos for on plan. Yay for the new drug to counter the a-fib. Hope it's the one.

davidette - Kudos for stepping back and giving yourself credit. That was a hard one for me, and remains so.

I shared your insights into the benefits of your mother's dementia with my friend who is the primary caregiver for the guy I mentioned - who really appreciated that insight. Said that this guy is always happy, like he was in real life, in contrast to a friend with a similar job who was tense and challenging. In dementia, the challenging guy is not happy, but confrontive and challenging. A remarkable motivator to find our emotional equilibrium while we have that option.

Lilly (lilyyoung) - Kudos for getting right back on track, that seems to be the secret of success. And good luck in continuing to see yourself as a success.

Readers - "Before you eat, you always have a thought, even if you're not fully conscious of it. The thought may be as simple as I'm going to eat this." . . . The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

onebyone
01-06-2009, 10:00 AM
Good Morning coaches

I'm just sitting here waiting for my friend to show so we can get out to Costco for my prescription and also find a nice place to sit and have a coffee in. It'll be good to chat over coffee :coffee:, one of my favorite things to do.

Well I had a 100% onplan day yesterday including, credit moi, a 15min exercise session. I hope to repeat both events today and have started well by getting a good breakfast in me AND making a shopping list in case my friend brings me to a grocery store (not Costco cause I don't have much $. I may have, like $20 and at Costco ONE item is like $20:eek:).

I will call the school today and get in touch with Val in the office who can give me a ride in to the school tomorrow to get going on the clean up in the studio. Oh and the union for the transit workers will hold the vote on the contract on Thursday morning. My friend believes it will pass. She can't even conceive of them not voting for it cause they no longer have leaverage with us. For a while there I was voicing my opinion that they may NOT vote for it but she won't listen and keeps trying to bait me into that conversation now but I just stay quiet and let the words pass on by... If it does pass it'll take a week to get the buses into driving condition. They've been idle in the bus yards for weeks now as the mechanics were out on strike too. So we may have bus service a week from Friday. Maybe.

Guess that's it. it's movie day this afternoon and I am choosing madagascar2. It was either that or Valkyrie (and I already know that story and how it turns out!) and you know, at this time of year I always feel a little blue so I am all for the happy goofy movie. I will once again, be passing on the popcorn like last week. I will reserve the right to get the Giant Diet Pop though even though I am trying not to take in fake sugar... it's the best solution for now as I will just feel resentful if I only have water. Not quite there yet with some issues...

Bye for now. I'll check back in for personals later.

Have a good day.

RobinW
01-06-2009, 11:34 AM
Good Morning :sunny:

The sun is shining!!!! I love it!! It can be freezing my butt off cold but if the sun is shining, I feel good!! Nothing like a little vitamin D to perk me up :D I'll be heading out in a little while to get some running around done. Then back to the shop to take down the christmas decorations and replace them with valentines stuff.

onebyone~ yah for getting out to the mall!! Enjoy your coffee date with your girlfriend. I love doing that and havent in quite a while....thanks for the reminder :)

Bill~ Kudos for bringing food you would eat rather than what everyone else might want. You have me wondering on those turnip slices???? I just cant imagine slicing one of those suckers without a big mega industrial electric slicer :lol:

Thank you for your support! :)

landlady~ I have to tell you, trying to be easier on myself has been quite a challenge. But it is certainly something Dr. Beck has taught me. Get over it and get on with it. Kudos for eating mindfully and kudos for getting your mojo back....I love it when that happens!

......well that's a first I hit some odd button and I posted before I was done :lol:
Ive got more to say....

Anne~ yuck for the old coffee! Thank you for recognizing what is right in front me.....no I didnt count it as a success but I should have. Thank you for that! I hope you get some great sleep!

quilter & angelmomma :wave:

Yesterday wasnt a stellar day, but it was better than my brain seemed to believe at the time. I was walking out of famous footwear with my new runners and was going thru the day's food. Everything was on plan except for a 4pm slip-up. Once I thought about it, I realized I actually had a pretty good day. BB (before beck) I would have taken that as my cue to eat the rest of the day ....and to eat in accordance to my old habits.

Speaking of habits.......I have a big honkin' kudos for myself I wanted to mention. Ive started adding whole grains back into my diet. Starting with brown rice and oatmeal. Here is the thing...I dont really want it right now. So the other night for supper I made a nice chicken dish with lf cheese, tomatoes and sf salad dressing. Tossed it in the toaster oven to get all melty and warm. When I was getting ready to serve it, I put hubby's serving ontop of his brown rice. I was thinking....hmm that's too heavy for me. The lightbulb went off and I went and got the baby spinach out of the fridge and put my serving ontop of the spinach!! Yah Kudos for me! Off plan, but in my opinion it was a better plan :D

Have a great day everyone!

davidette
01-06-2009, 11:35 AM
kuhljeanie I think you'll find using a neti pot is not messy. I was taught years ago (before neti pots were readily available) by a yoga instructor to close off one nostril and "snort" up salt water cupped in the other palm. Then tilt your head to the closed-off side, release the closed nostril, and the solution runs out. Now THAT can be messy. But it can give you an idea of the effect without spending any $$.

onebyone Weekly art projects? What kind of projects do you do? I don't have a creative bone in my body, but I love making things (and subsequently torture all my friends and family with homemade gifts). I think so many of us neglect this very pleasurable part of our personality. My friends and I try to arrange a craft get together every few months, but it's hard to come up with something everyone can make in a few hours, with a range from supertalented to super klutzy. Looking for ideas to keep our hands and mouths busy!

Good planning on the movie/popcorn/diet coke dilemma. I keep telling myself not to tackle too much at once. Eliminating fake sugar and refined flour, not to mention switching from coffee to tea, are goals of mine but I know my odds of success are much greater if I just do one thing at a time. I like the idea of negotiating a deal with myself; for now, I "reserve the right" to eat "bad" things as long as I'm eating mindfully!


Sounds like you are making progess in all sorts of areas; decluttering (great idea about the give-away city web site; I need to find one locally = no guilt about throwing away something potentially useful) and also the community service. Very impressive! Another intriguing idea is your breakfast by candleight I'm going to try that since I am currently struggling with mindful eating. Sounds like a useful cue to focus on being peaceful and appreciative.


angelmommagood luck with the new med, glad the doctor had an option for you to try. :D

wndranne Congrats on skipping your evening snack, but even more so for stopping and tuning it with whether you are really hungry or not! I've forgotten how to do that. Thanks for the reminder that's what thin people do and where we are headed.

lilyGood luck getting to the gym, I've been postponing for days now. Amazing how creative I can be with excuses! I'm putting my goal in writing: I'll be there for class at 8 a.m. next Monday. Maybe we can push each other to follow through. I sure need a shove.

landlady6Congrats on eating mindfully! I've been playing with my daughter on her Wii Fit and found that I get a higher score when I don't look at the screen, just focus on the pose! Do you watch the screen during the pose?

I found an old bracelet I'm wearing to remind myself to "credit" every Beck skill I use during the day and plan on buying a charm for it at each 5 pound goal. I considered a pedicure as my reward; such a lucious indulgence! I love those "icy" masks. Then I imagined a bracelet full of charms and decided to go for it!

BillCilantro hummus? That sounds yummy. I was just having a discussion with my daughter on growing cilantro. I have never had any luck. And it's such a wonderful fresh herb. Maybe I'll figure it out this summer. Turnip slices? Kohlrabi? I'm getting lots of great ideas to "think outside the box".


Hearing everyone reporting on their exercise achievements is getting me psyched to get back to the gym after a 3 month hiatus. I let the business of the holidays, and my black/white thinking (I'm either at the gym 5 days a week or not at all), keep me away far too long. I don't know why is it so hard to see the GRAY in things but I do believe if I keep at CBT long enough I'll learn moderation.


Thanks to all for the inspirations!

bennyhannahmama
01-06-2009, 05:24 PM
Coaches

Shoot, didn't get enough sleep last night, so I'm exhausted. Did go to a spin class last night and this morning. I guess I won't be full-on posting here again, just yet.

Hope you are all doing well!

kuhljeanie
01-06-2009, 08:57 PM
cheers davidette! that makes sense - i can try it (if/when i'm feeling adventurous.)

just a quick shout out to my brilliant coaches. first day of flying pig training, and i pushed way too hard. lungs had that crispy-almost-burnt feeling. know what i mean?

el nino has been a terror - last two days, both morning and night have involved at least one full-blown tantrum. always over something that seems absolutely minor (at least to me.) haven't seen this before from him. he's gotten upset, but not this degree of screaming, full-on pissed-off hissy fit over something like wanting cheese, but not getting the right kind (e.g. he wants mozzarella but all we have is edam.) i'm also having insomnia issues again. hope the running will help! cold is almost completely gone, and for that, i am grateful.

hope everyone is having a good tuesday!

AnneWonders
01-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Coaches/Buddies I think I'm on a roll. I went to the gym today, and did the elliptical for 30 minutes. You guys know I'm not a gym person, right? 100% on plan with food, no coffee incidents even. I'm starting to have trouble getting myself to read my response cards, but I'm muscling through it because I know I need to do it longer to build the discipline for when I'm not so rolling.

Kids are back in school and things are returning to busy but normal. I got a couple new books to read. One is The Last Lecture which one of my friends is going on and on about, and the other is weight-loss related, The Instinct Diet. I finished The Tales of Beedle the Bard (fun) and am about 1/3 of the way through Inkheart. I really like to read. I'm scheduling a latte for tomorrow and am going to read and enjoy it at the coffee house near the kids' daycare for 30-45 minutes before I pick them up tomorrow.

Lily It is a busy thread and I don't think anybody does personals every day, except maybe our cybershepard. Do what you can; I often learn something just from other people talking about what is happening for them. Watch that rebound eating!

Heidi Feel tired, go to bed. Sounds like a great plan! 100% behind you on that. Hope you get your pedicure soon! My next 5 lb goal reward is a Sheryl Crow CD. I like CDs and almost never get them.

Bill Nicely done on the snacks. Raw turnips are awesome--my mother used to let me eat them when I was little.

Re: the Milky Way bulking up, LOL! Our galaxy is, hmm, very cluttered (with dust), and trying to see around it all to find everything has been challenging. I'm not surprised it is suddenly believed to be more massive. A few years ago, someone (I should know who but don't remember) found out it is interacting--eating small neighbors. And if the PI is going to use his own weight and stature as a point of comparison, he deserves what he gets.

onebyone Hope your trip to Costco was largely uneventful, and hope you enjoyed your coffee chat. Congrats on your on plan day! You should make a mental note (or a memory card) to remember how much better you are doing when you aren't letting yourself get to busy. The difference between now and a few weeks ago is striking. At least from here...

RobinW Hooray for sunshine! Spinach and brown rice. Sounds very healthy! I hope you enjoy it.

davidette I hope you get back to the gym. I'm a triathlete, and also have trouble with all or nothing when it comes to exercise. I did a major brainstorm a couple weeks ago, and am now implementing those strategies. I also made a Response Card that says something like "5 minutes of exercise is better than zero minutes of exercise." Hard to argue with that.

Kim :wave: glad you stopped in for a quickie! :)

Jeanie Marathon training (know that crispy feeling all too well) and terrible twos all at once. And like a day post-illness. Make sure to take some time to breathe!

Beckies, I did a review of CBDL here (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160386). Stop in and take a look--you could hear a pin drop over there. Makes me feel irrelevant. While you're at it check out this (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157214) from a couple months ago.

Anne

lilyyoung
01-07-2009, 12:38 AM
Hi all!
quick shout out. It was a difficult day. I got derailed to start with by having cold Amaranth cereal with both dates and raisins. I got too hungry later since it was too sweet. It was an exhausting day, with air conditioner repair people in the morning, then a bone density test, and then schlepping to work at 2 in the afternoon. And cooking spaghetti and turkey meat sauce from the new WW materials at night. I went off plan a few times--not insanely, though. Someone-I think it was Robin-spoke about a controlled binge. That's what it was like. My (NYC) subway was not running on the way home, so I went to the railroad-Penn Station-and got a frozen yogurt before getting on the train. I threw half away. Oh well, tomorrow is another day and my new fresh start starts right NOW.

landlady6
01-07-2009, 01:24 AM
Hello coaches,

Quick flyby. Still doing well, although it is much more difficult to get the exercise in now that I am back at work. I have weighed in each day on the wiifit and did a few yoga poses yesterday morning-none today since we were reunning late. UGH. But am getting a few spontaneous bouts of exercise in and am eathing mindfully/catching myself and have stopped myself from eating ice cream this evening. NICE> Those cards really do help when I am in the right frame of mind and REALLY read them.

I had a scare this evening-I randomly called my mother who goes to bed early..I knew I was calling on the late side but rarely get much time to chat so went for it. HEr cleaning lady answered and said that my mom had gone to the hospital (cleaning lady was called to take care of mom's dogs) I put on my Nancy Drew hat since she called 911 by herself and was at the hospital by herself-there are a gazillion numbers for the hospital but I found the right one and tracked her down. They think that she has kidney stones.. in the scheme of things, this sounded like good news to me since, while painful, they are something that pass (literally..). Please send healing thoughts to her...it is really getting me that she is alone there in the emergency room.. at least she is morphined up so is more comfortable.. My family has been very healthy and , luckily/thankfully, have not had these types of scares so far. It has snapped me into "life is short, must show appreciation for the people in my life more frequently" mindset...


Anne-great summaries of both books-I am just beginning the second book but am also glad that I have both books even if there is redundancy...

Off to bed and an early wake up..keep on truckin' everyone! Oh-and I appreciate all of you and what you share with this group so ery much-thank you for sharing your journeys...." :) Goodnight.

BillBlueEyes
01-07-2009, 05:51 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Was particularly satisfied eating lentils with Swiss Chard for lunch since it came from the half that I froze when I made them some three weeks ago. Savored that I was harvesting the results of my planning. CREDIT moi.

maryblu - Waving. Thinking of you as I read about your [perhaps] Senator headed to Washington, and, just as you suggested here weeks ago, the lawsuits filed.

onebyone - Yay for choosing a movie to match your mood. And Yay for planning your shopping trip by making a list. Without a list, I'm a sucker for everything on sale, LOL.

Heidi (landlady6) - Sending healing thoughts for your mom; hope that it works out. Ouch that she's alone through this, I can imagine how that is painful for you. Congrats on making that inspired call when you did.

Robin (RobinW) - Big Kudos for chicken with lf cheese over baby spinach. Now that's getting inspired thinking into your menu. And Yay for physical vitamin D - the best kind.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Kudos for pushing yourself training for the flying pig. Yay for the demise of the cold. Double Ouch for hissy fits by el nino.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos that you "build the discipline for when I'm not so rolling." Good reminder for me there.

LOL that the dieting analogy of the Milky Way continues with "eating small neighbors." Would have to judge that to be on-plan eating, LOL.


Kim (bennyhannamama) - Kudos for two spinning classes. At my gym, the spinning classes are usually packed.

davidette - Yay for getting psyched up to get back to the gym - that's where the exercise is kept, LOL.

Lilly (lilyyoung) - Kudos for throwing away half a frozen yogurt; wish I could say I had ever done that. Ouch for the rough day, but Big Kudos for making the fresh start "right now."

Readers - ". . . The Beck Diet for Life program teaches you how to recognize these kind of thoughts, especially the sabotaging thoughts that encourage you to eat unplanned food. They often start with:• Its OK to eat [this unplanned food] because ...

• It won't matter if I eat [this unplanned food] because .... . . " The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

onebyone
01-07-2009, 08:44 AM
Hello coaches

I am off to catch a ride in to work this morning and just wanted to let my coaches know I've been OP 100% and got my 15 minutes in yesterday (mini trampoline) and plan on doing the same today. I have a lunch and snacks packed in my spongebob lunchbox and have had breakfast and even have a coffee to go!

And on that note I have to go.

Have the best day yous guys!

davidette
01-07-2009, 09:26 AM
wndranneI'm a big reader too; what's The Instinct Diet about? I've spent so long (on a diet, off a diet) divorcing myself from any honest connection between what and when I eat and how I feel / what I need physically, I doubt I'm ready to go on instinct. But then that's part of the Beck plan, to get back to that awareness. Have you ever read anything by Michael Pollan? I recently read In Defense of Food; fascinating. I'm going to get to The Last Lecture one of these days; good for you for rejuvinating at the coffee house!

Thanks for the "5 minutes exercise" response card tip; you're right. I've been putting any exercise off until my set time to return, 8 a.m. Monday. An even better idea is to at least stretch for 5 minutes a day until then. I'm sure I'll be amazed at how much better that little bit makes me feel; which in turn will motivate me to follow through on Monday. :cp:

Great book reviews! I have both books and you gave me a better idea of what to expect as I progress in the newest. Excellent job of comparison.

lilyCongrats at throwing half your yogurt away! That "finish your food" mentality is tough to fight.

landlady Sorry about your mom; I'll be sending positive thoughts. I know it's hard not being there. :stress: My only sister lives out of state while I take care of my mom and sometimes I think it's harder on her.

I made some progress yesterday with "no distraction" mindful eating in moving from "this is torture" to "this is not so bad". I'm not going on to an actual diet until I'm more confident with the conscious eating / credit skills. I'm telling myself it's like listening to a song you like; you don't want the song to end, you just relax and enjoy the music. If I can apply that to eating mindfully, I'm home free.

Have a great Wednesday!

kuhljeanie
01-07-2009, 10:03 AM
morning my coaches!

hoo boy, am i SORE today. :) yay me for working that hard, and yay again for the workout i'm going to do later. not sure what it'll be exactly, but it won't be running, that's for sure.

right now, the food thing is feeling very easy. i'm enjoying that. every now and then i have this fantasy about doing something completely different (cakes full time, SAHM, i dunno, something else) and i have to remind myself that one of the wonderful things about my standard straight job is how easy it is to stay on plan when i'm here. i don't think i would have seen that as an advantage a year ago. i also distinctly recall a few months prior when i was buying lunch every day, and turning lunchtime into bingetime. feels peaceful.

el nino behaved himself beautifully this morning and last night. kudos to him! :) he's probably enjoying the return to his regular routine as well. i hugely appreciate that since DH has started taking graduate classes. not sure if he's going to finish his masters, but i'm thrilled that he's going beyond his daily grind.

go onebyone! and davidette, what a lovely way to think of a meal. i'll add: if you listen to a favorite song too much, it starts wearing on you and no longer has the same appeal. same with food. heidi, thinking about you and glad that things worked out just so you'd find out about your mom. bill, those sound like super-gratifying lentils and chard. can't imagine how wonderful i'll feel when i'm easily prepping all my bistro-style meals that i will be cooking myself. ah, the thrill of organization! what a high. ;) lily, outstanding that you threw out the yogurt! BIG kudo and a shout back. anne, your coffeehouse reading sounds fabulous. i'm with you in spirit. i used to read constantly...might be worth making some time to start up again, huh? can't even remember what my last fun book was. waving at spinning kim!

RobinW
01-07-2009, 11:24 AM
Good Morning

Im not sure, but Im thinking maybe, just maybe my way of thinking in regards to food has changed. Ive basically stopped thinking about the things I cannot have and feeling resentment towards those feelings.

Ive been thinking alot about you Bill, and how you started out on your journey. I have been very good at getting the weight off, but keeping it off has been my issue. Knowing this means maintenance has always been a kind of scary thing for me.

Eating everyday the way Im suppose to is a preview of what eating will be like a year from now.....with all the extra poundage gone. It's not so bad.

You know what? I can do this :D

Bill~ Yah for frozen lunches!! :cb: I just brought the last of my nacho soup today and need to make a couple more batches of soup for work. I love that!! My very own grab and go in my own fridge.

Jean~ Kudos for feeling peaceful about food, and finding it easy right now. It puts more space in your brain for more important things.

Davidette~ I made some progress yesterday with "no distraction" mindful eating in moving from "this is torture" to "this is not so bad". I'm not going on to an actual diet until I'm more confident with the conscious eating / credit skills. I'm telling myself it's like listening to a song you like; you don't want the song to end, you just relax and enjoy the music. If I can apply that to eating mindfully, I'm home free. It sounds like you have the right attitude and you are on the right track! Kudos!

onebyone~ Kudos for your 15min on the trampoline!!! :trampo:
Anne~ enjoy your quiet time at the coffee house!! Kudos for feeling the groove :D

I still need to get the christmas decorations down at the shop....that is on the agenda today. Valentines stuff was bought last night and is waiting to make their glittery appearance :lol:

Have a great day everyone!

angelmomma210
01-07-2009, 03:38 PM
Hey all...so farso good non the med. My heart rate is lower than normal which is good because that is what it is suppose to do. We will see about the rest.

Good news...dh is getting unemployment now...it was approved. Yeah. That is the first step...now for the work situation. Please have good day. I did stay on plan. Yeah for me.

onebyone
01-07-2009, 10:59 PM
Hello Coaches

Well I am home after a full day's work at the school. I did lots of tedious cleaning chores: wiping the dried clay from three containers packed full of tiny little tools, wiping the front and the back of hard boards that students make their projects on, topping off the "easy" containers of decorative materials, tossing out the old work that wasn't picked up two semesters ago.
Some things I wanted to do I couldn't because the clay dried out over the long xmas break we had. I still have plenty to do because the glazes are a nightmare. So is inventory. I have this to look forward to tomorrow, but it feels good to have done over 1/2 of the tedious things I needed to do. I'm in again tomorrow. And I have straightened out my tuition fee for this semester and can now get that going too.
CREDIT MOI for getting back to work at the school.
CREDIT MOI I did my 15 minutes of activity by walking out side over lunch in the driving snow. We had a major snowstorm today so the walking wasn't easy.All the better!
CREDIT MOI for packing my lunch and snacks and for eating it today.
CREDIT MOI for planning ahead yesterday to have the ingredients and recipe on hand for dinner tonight... and an on-going CREDIT MOI for keeping the kitchen area free of piles of stuff on the floor and the table as DH said, after dinner was done, "DO you want to eat at the table or in front of the TV?" "Table!" And we ate at the table and I lit a candle and it was good and as he unloaded the dishwasher I noted and mentioned that it was so great to be able to sit in the kitchen and chat while he did that, again, the table and cleaning!:D

So I am onplan foodwise and exercisewise. I am still a bit blue around the edges but it's winter and the bus strike and at least they are voting on it tomorrow. It was good to get in to work though, and in spite of my apprehension at getting so busy again, I will be glad to put my brain back to work.

angelmomma210 Very happy to read your heart meds are slowing your heart rate down and YAY for the unemployment. It is always a relief to have some money coming in. And a BIG YAY for staying on plan!

RobinW I know what you mean about the pondering on how BBE did his foodplan. I think it is brilliant and it's all about maintaining isn't it? I am not as certain that I can lose the weight as you are but I definitely know that the keeping it off is equally difficult but not if what you are doing now is what you will be doiong anyway. it makes so much sense. This really is the way I am also looking at things this time around. I am tweaking it with the foodplan but the types of food I am choosing and the things I am leaving behind will be a permanent shift. Not only can you do this, but you are doing this.

kuhljeanie Kudos on your workout and hurrah! for el nino being peaceful. You're doing really well :hug:

davidette I too think that's a beautiful comparison of mindful eating to a song you love. Both acts make you appreciate the moment. I often think of the place where the thing I am eating comes from. I especially like to think of the sunshine that went into my fruits and veggies. This always give me such a sense of wonder at how the heck does all this happen. The world and the things in it are unfathomable at times to me. It's good to really appreciate how truly fortunate we are.
You're doing really well. Kudos.

BillBlueEyes I'm going to be bringing some beef and barley soup for lunch tomorrow. I feel like you do: Savored that I was harvesting the results of my planning. CREDIT moi And this made me laugh out loud LOL that the dieting analogy of the Milky Way continues with "eating small neighbors." Would have to judge that to be on-plan eating, LOL.
Funny.

landlady6 Oh I am SOOOO waiting for our wii fit! It's still in Toronto at BIL's house... happy to hear you are still using it. Kudos! And sorry to hear your mom is experiencing some stuff. Hope she's better soon.

lilyyoung Credit Vous for getting right back on the wagon when you only really had a toe dangling off near the wheel so-to-speak. There NO NEED EVER to jump off. You obviously know this. Yay! it's how we really get from here ( ) to there ) (

;)

wndranne Thanks for reminding my of how much better I really am with some R & R. It's going to get busy but I don't have the pressure of my own business on me this coming semester at least not until the end of the semester. By then I'll be getting ready for whatever I am doing this summer/fall. I have no clue what that will be as I write this right now...
But yeah, I am going to guard my time much closer this semester. I am not letting go my hard-won weightloss or food sanity so easily ever again.
I'm also a big reader but I lean toward biographies. Over the xmas break I finished Steve Martin's Born Standing Up, and a local author's book called This Firefighter's Life by Jimmy Allen. I used to sell at art and craft shows with his wife Sharon Allen, so it's really interesting to read about someone you sort of know. Now I'm about 1/8th into the authorized biography of Neil Armstrong (it's really dense...love that)
First Man: The Life of Neil A. Armstrong by James R. Hansen and I am alternating this with about 7 volumes of Far Side comic book collections to chase the winter blues away.

Better go. Time's flying. Have a good evening gang!

AnneWonders
01-07-2009, 11:02 PM
Coaches/Buddies Yet another on plan day for me today, at least foodwise. I've had to rearrange some of my planned workouts, since I got really sore from lifting on whatever day it was, but I'm continuing to exercise daily. It feels great. Friday I'm starting on Stage 2 by hitting the calorie levels on the Beck 3 meal/3 snack schedule. My plan level is 2000 calories/day, but I've been really satisfied on 1800 this week, so I may go to the next level down. 1800 is appropriate for my target weight anyway. I'll think on it. Any opinions? FWIW, during the Big Loss I did 1500/day and was very comfortable at that level until I started training for my marathon. Sleep was OK last night, and tonight is DH's turn to get up with DS, so hopefully I'll be good tomorrow too.

I spent an hour at the cafe today with my fancy coffee and The Last Lecture. Such a sad situation, but I enjoyed the book, my relaxation time, and my latte.

Lily You sound very busy. Take a few deep breaths. Did you get hungry because of the sweetness, or because your morning calorie level was too low? Something to consider. I do so much better with a big breakfast and small supper myself.

Heidi Your mother's incident sounds scary. I'm not sure if I'm glad it was kidney stones or not; while they aren't (usually) serious, I've had a couple and can't remember when I've been in more pain. Best wishes that she feels better soon.

Bill You make me want to make myself a big batch of lentil soup. A real comfort food for me now, and so healthy. Even if I put a little sausage in it! :) Just a little. Really.

onebyone Glad you are on plan and prepped for the day!

davidette The premise behind The Instinct Diet is that there are 5 basic instincts that drive us to eat. The first and probably most obvious is hunger, but we are also driven to eat by availability, familiarity, variety, and calorie density. It is written by one of the "theys" as in "they say", Susan Roberts, a professor of nutrition and psychiatry at Tufts University. The diet is supposed to work with these instincts and so be easy to follow. I'm hoping to get some tips and/or ideas. It is not an intuitive eating kind of thing. My intuitive eating got me to 289 pounds--better to use my brain than my "intuition." I'll let you know what I think. I tend to write detailed reviews, especially if I really like something, or was really disappointed.

Jeanie I hope you are a good sore, and not use-the-rails-in-the-wheelchair-stall sore! Glad el nino is behaving.

RobinW You are making some important discoveries about keeping weight off. I think you can do it, too!

Chris Glad to hear your med is working out and that your DH got his unemployment!

Have a good one everybody!

Anne

AnneWonders
01-07-2009, 11:07 PM
onebyone Crosspost! Sounds like you had a fantastic day. You certainly earned it.

Anne

landlady6
01-08-2009, 12:57 AM
hi all,
I am doing pretty darned well so far on my "get my head back into the game" plan. I feel very positive, have been exercising (wii fit...) and eating a good, balanced diet while sitting down and in calm frame of mind. Big kudos for me. It feels great.

Mom sounds so much better. I do know how much kidney stones hurt when they pass and am just glad that she is with us, didn't have to go under the knife for anything with nobody there to help with decision making, etc... she has her percocet for when they start their YOWCHY journey.

A friend from work came over here at the last minute for dinner. I was proud of myself for successfully "throwing together" some healthy fare. I picked up a rotisserie chicken, had salad fixings, made some rice and we all visited and ate well. For me to have things on hand to throw together especially for guests used to be unheard of. Kudos moi!

I must share a recipe for salad dressing that my dad makes that is loved by most (even my 6 yr old as long as there isn't TOO much garlic...).
NO measurements..just "goodly amounts" of all...
olive oil
balsamic vinegar
grainy mustard
garlic
lemon juice
salt and pepper
This may be just a basic vinegraitte but he makes it all the time and I do too now and it is a hit...I make my salads the way he makes his...variations or not..
tonight's had spinach, walnuts, feta cheese, strawberries, onion, cucumber and the great dressing..
he usually makes his with grapes, walnuts, spinach, avacado, feta and tomato.. SOOO good...

If even one person is touched by my little salad diddy, it was worth posting. :) It is salad that I WANT to eat...still laugh when I think of RobinW's "salad is what food eats" comment.. I am with you!

BillBlueEyes
01-08-2009, 05:35 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did another session with my trainer. CREDIT moi. He added 12 pound dumb bells in each hand for the lunges. No big deal thinks I. That's nothing compared to the 81 pounds I've recently removed. Wrong. My legs felt those extra 24 pounds big time. A little sore from that. Feels good.

onebyone - Wow, she's on the wagon and driving it like Charleston Heston in Ben Hur. Major Kudos for taking a walk in the driving snow - that's dedication. Yay for beef and barley soup. Sounds good; kindly email me a bowl, LOL.

Heidi (landlady6) - Yep, Big Kudos for feeling positive for your "get my head back into the game" plan.

Thanks for your dad's salad dressing recipe - particularly like the "goodly amount" part. I'll give it a try, adding double "goodly" garlic, LOL.

Yay that your mom's situation is better. Continuing to send healing thoughts her way.


Robin (RobinW) - So neat, your shift from resentment to not thinking about the foods you cannot have. Yep, sounds like a major change in your way of thinking. LOL that we are now the soup and salad thread - good winter fare.

Yep, I concur; you can do this. Neat that you now can visualize maintenance as a positive way to live. It does last a long time.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch for sore. Yay for sore. Kudos for sore; a flying start to the flying pig. Thanks for the reminder, "ah, the thrill of organization! what a high." Yup, there's nothing like being on a roll.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for Anne-time at the cafe with your fancy coffee. And Ouch/Yay/Kudos for sore. My take would be to go for the 1800 while it feels right, with the 2000 in your pocket should marathon training call for more. Perhaps you could allocate that 200 (or part of it) to a daily treat, which seems to be an important part of CBDL.

Still pondering your "build the discipline for when I'm not so rolling." It so reminds me that rolling feels so self-righteously good, but the big thing is to continue to work my frame of mind for getting back to rolling. I do appreciate that thought.


Chris (angelmomma210) - Congrats on the heart rate. And congrats to your DH for winning his unemployment benefits. All headed in the right direction.

davidette - Neat analogy of conscious eating to listening to a song you like. Smart to work the basics before starting a diet.

Readers - "You probably experienced lots of sabotaging thoughts in the past. Because you didn't know how to recognize them or respond to them, these thoughts eventually led you to stray from your diet or abandon it altogether. ..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

onebyone
01-08-2009, 08:49 AM
Hello coaches

And to all of you coaches who get up every morning to go to work..how the heck do you do this day after day and not become a growly bear??? :)

I'm on my way to the school to work in the ceramic room...yowsa...gotta go now!

Will check in later... so far: I am OP had breakfast, packed a lunch and a snack, and will walk over the noonhour...

Have a good day.

shrinkin
01-08-2009, 08:55 AM
Coaches,

:carrot: for all the new Becksters posting since I was last here! Welcome!!

Regret begin MIA. Have been sick for so long I don't remember feeling well.

Have been working too hard...putting in 16 hour days working on a project that must be done in a couple of weeks. Stress level far too high.

Trying to get more attenttive to my diet and get back to some better Beck habits. Finding it hard to find the time and energy. I have not been overeating, but my food selection has been terrible. Far too much sugar. Guess I have to give myself credit for wanting to do better and planning to soon.

For now, just putting one foot in front of the other.

Hope to get back here soon...but can't promise. I will be thinking of you all though and could use your positive vibes.

:wave: to you all and sending a belated Happy New Year!

davidette
01-08-2009, 09:24 AM
bennyhannahmama Kudos for not letting a sleepless night keep you from spin class - a.m. AND p.m. - :carrot:

wndranne Followed through on your tip (5 minutes exercise is better than 0 minutes) with a few yoga poses - amazed how quickly the timer went off - and how good it felt to stretch. Thanks for the strategy. Knowing I struggle with all or nothing thinking is one thing; having a simple practical step to bypass it is another!

The Instinct Diet sounds very interesting; I'm looking forward to your review. I'm trying to steer my reading to material that encourages me to think about my eating patterns, even if I'm not sold on that particular theory.

RobinW Congrats for realizing you CAN do this - that's a big tipping point, overcoming that gut fear. After finally giving up smoking (25 years ago) I realized the biggest impedient had been thinking I could not do it. Thanks for the reminder as I struggle to overcome the belief that I will never be able to read and watch TV contentedly without my snack food nearby.


angelmomma210 Glad to hear the unemployment came through, and your med is working; it will all work out.:goodvibes

onebyone I love the idea of focusing on where our food comes from. An added bonus: it will probably remind me to eat healthier! And when I think of all the energy involved in bringing me this food, I can't help but feel it deserves a respectful appreciation.

landlady6 Thanks for the salad dressing receipe; I need inspiration to eat salads and you certainly gave me one! Yum! Kudos for "throwing together" healthy fare. My first reaction would have been to use this as an excuse to go off my diet. Impressive!

I finally made it one whole day with every bite eaten as consciously as possible, without distractions. :cheer2: I actually noticed a few moments during the day where I seemed to be less frantic about moving on to the next thing. I've never been able to develop a practice of meditation; conscious eating may be an effective substitute. I'm just amazed I can feel it extending to my daily activities so soon.

Now to move on peacefully to the next thing :lol:

RobinW
01-08-2009, 11:55 AM
Just a quickie today.....I went and decided to hold a network event sponsored by our business. The feedback was amazing yesterday ......and now the fun starts :lol:

Im 100% op.....even getting my exercise in.
Didnt get my soup made yesterday cuz I had to get on the treadmill....so its a chicken concoction for lunch :D

have a great day everyone!

QuilterInVA
01-08-2009, 12:41 PM
Good morning! I'm really enoying all your posts and read them faithfully even if I don't get time to post.

I had been off work for 2 weeks over the holidays so it took a couple of days to get back in the groove. Now its all the year end reports that is keeping me under pressure.

I've been doing well with the new WW Momentum Plan. The brace comes off my hand tomorrow so I'll be able to resume more vigorous exercise come Monday. Trying to put a positive spin on it by telling myself it gave me more time to get back on my food plan and get meals planned ahead. I'll also be able to get back to hand quilting which I have sorely missed. NO CHOICE still works the best for me.

We got a tin of cookies at work yesterday and I took it upstairs to let the hungry men eat them. Credit Moi!
Have a good day.

kuhljeanie
01-08-2009, 02:35 PM
got an email yesterday morning from the head of a steering committee asking for a headcount for pizza. wrote back that i'd be there, but was bringing my own lunch. CREDIT MOI! got back and walked 30 min on the treadmill, even though i was sore. still am - after today's yoga and hill run - but all that means is that "sore" is absolutely no excuse at all to skip a workout. my body is adjusting just fine.

have really started thinking about how to do my own bistro-style meals. i'm quite sure i'm capable of doing it, but i worry about my ability to make the time and do it CONSISTENTLY. the first week of breakfasts on my own has gone swimmingly, but i don't feel ready to cut the cord just yet. i'm working on a rotation system so that i only have to prep 2 meals a week, but make them in enough bulk so that i always have 6-8 different meals to choose from. i'm pretty sure it'll work (DH has offered to take one of the two meals, bless him) but if i quit bistro and decide to return again, i lose the promotional free shipping deal i have now. it works out to about $100 a month difference, so i'm hesitant to go off until i'm really truly good and ready, and i still have about 40 lbs to lose. boy, is that an effective marketing program, or what? :^: maybe i can set a weight goal for it? say, 20 lbs from now, i should be ready? or do you think that might invite self-sabotage? hm. i don't have to make any decisions today - maybe i'll just do a few trial runs putting the meals together, and see how it goes, how long it takes. they won't go to waste in the freezer or anything. :)

woot woot robin, anne, and onebyone! THIS is how we roll. :woohoo: onebyone, i get up everyday and cheerfully go to work because...i can do my thing and know that my force-of-nature DS is having a wonderful time with a woman who's a trained professional in the art of childcare. i'm just a rank amateur. :) honestly, some mondays work is a relief after two days with him. i love him TO DEATH - and he's fun like you wouldn't imagine - but i'm out of the groove of watching a little kid all day, and work is a lovely counterbalance. and like i said, the structure makes it super easy to stay on plan and exercise. like today - ellen degeneres was on when i got to the gym. mindless me time! anne, sounds like a plan with the calories. if it ain't broke, why fix it? (unless you're an engineer, like my DH. or bill.:)) and robin, isn't it the coolest thing to stop feeling resentful? like a huge weight off your shoulders, just gone. i had a similar moment when i read that thin people have to watch what they eat too. they just don't get all worked up about having to do it. a big ole' HUH? really? for me. it's been much easier since then!

angelmomma - so glad to hear that things are looking up! even more glad to hear that you're making such strides taking care of yourself. just tremendous.

davidette - how lovely to have that moment when you realize that you're really enjoying what you're eating! go you!

thanks for the recipe heidi! sounds great - i'll have to use it this summer, once our CSA starts delivering mountains of salad greens to us again. it'll for sure come in handy. and GO YOU for getting your head back in the game! feels good, huh? :)

nice to hear from you quilter! great that you'll be getting back to the things you love. and wonderful that the new WW plan is working for you!

and a big GO YOU bill for walking lunges with weights! i get more than enough lunge action from yoga. HATE lunges. hats off! sore (but not incapacitated) is a delightful thing.

almost forgot - a little yay me. got on the scale this morning, and i'm officially back down to 170. WHEEE!

AnneWonders
01-08-2009, 03:05 PM
Coaches/Buddies DS got sent home from daycare with a fever today, so I'm here with him. He's current fast asleep, so if I leave suddenly, I'll be back later. Another on plan day today so far. My legs are telling me to take a break, so today will be a light exercise day if anything. I think I had the resistance on the elliptical a bit high Tuesday and tweaked my knee.

Heidi Glad to hear your mom is better. Nice to hear your head is in the game and that you threw together a healthy dinner. Subtext for that is that you have planned organized enough to have the right stuff to do that around the house, so keep it up!

Bill Nicely done on the lunges. I'm with Jeanie--I hate them. But then that is just a message that I need to do them more to get stronger. Clearly you got the memo on that!

onebyone Don't assume that just because I got up early (3:45 today, ack) that I'm not a growly bear. Surely you've noticed how often coffee comes up in my posts... Nice prep for the day!

shrinkin Sick, stress, and deadlines. Yep, just hold your own until it's over, and set a new date to dig into the Beck stuff. Maybe the day after your deadline. Then you have a plan and one less thing to worry about until then.

davidette Congrats on your mindful eating! I still find it weird that it is a chore, for me too. So counter-intuitive.

RobinW You go! Gettin' into that groove!

Susan Nice plan on moving the cookies! You'll have to tell me more about the WW Momentum plan. I'm unfamiliar.

Jeanie Congrats on the 170! I think your plan to try your own meal prep while still on Bistro is good. Then you can figure out how much help you need before you loose the discount. Nicely done on turning down FREE PIZZA! And, um, yeah, I am an engineer, but seem to have avoided some of the tinkering habits that many of the males of the species have picked up.

Probably won't get back tonight when I have both kids around. And my little boyfriend starts to coo now. Perfect timing...

Have a good one!

Anne

maryblu
01-08-2009, 11:00 PM
Yo, Beckies,

Hope to shoot off a cuppla quick thoughts before the site freezes up and is too busy to let me in. Have lost 2 thoughtful nights of posts. Well, two nights of posts anyhoo.

wndranne, I wonder if Beck falls on deaf ears (so to speak) with maintainers because they are all already practicing so much of Beck's strategies. As I read their posts, I see: planning..day by day, planning for eating at events, logging, exercising faithfully, coaching, asking for help, realizing they will be "maintaining" for life..and especially, acknowledging a slip up and promptly getting back to their plan.

And speaking of maintainers, did you see the post about resentment? Even they, even they(!) admit to sometimes resenting that maintenance is so much a reality. Imagine that.

If I posted this before, forgive me, but I think it was in one of my lost- in- cyber- space communications. In talking about her wt. gain, Oprah said she fell off the wagon because she thought she had it licked. She thought she had the wt. thing beaten. She got complacent. Constant Vigilance! We can resent it or not, doesn't change a thing. It is a lifestyle change, as our dear Cyber Sheppard BillBE wisely decided in the beginning of his wt. loss journey.

As for journeys, I inadvertently faced the scale this week. Wasn't ready, was waiting to be good for a while, but, I had to go to the dr. and you know what happens there. As I stood on the scale with my stomach sucked in waiting for the digits to settle, I know I just had that look of Bambi in the headlights, and when the 155.5 came clear, my jaw hit my chest. Had to confirm it with my old tried and true scale at work, and yep. 155 and a half there too. Absolute proof positive that I can eat like a sow and maintain this wt. The downside to that is two-fold. I don't want to maintain 155.5; I want to maintain 135. And I don't want to eat like a sow either. Have you seen what pigs will eat??

Having been just a chow hound for the last month, I have to believe in the "set point" theory. I have not denied myself anything! Logic says I am not back to eating what I was at my 220# set point of old, but I can't imagine how I could have eaten much more.

Now the question would be ..how long does it take for a set point to get set? I have maintained between 65 and 80#s lost for about 6 yrs..a little over. hmmm.

Am back to my old habits, found the volume control, so to speak. Feels good. Heading down, and even when I get there, constant vigilance!

Kudos, all, for the Beck behaviors practiced.

bennyhannahmama
01-08-2009, 11:48 PM
Had to leave work early today because I wasn't feeling well. Have been in bed since but not really able to sleep. Read most of the posts I had missed so far this month-- it was great to be able to catch up and motivating to remember that I have wonderful company on this journey.

Started reading the new book, but only the first few pages.
Wellness Challenge at my (recently joined) gym that will be taking place over the next 12 weeks. The first meeting is on Sunday at which time we'll be split into teams and will review the program. I got measured and weighed the other day. We will meet with our team regularly, go to nutrition meetings and then we'll get points for various things (losing weight, inches, body-fat, working out, logging food, attending team meetings, nutrition meetings, etc.) There are cash prizes for the top 2 winners (most points earned) and winning team gets bragging rights and t-shirts :) I was really excited to participate in this program as soon as I heard about it. Then I found out it only cost $25 and that they have a good number of people already signed up including many of the staff at the gym... seems like it's being very well received (1st year they're doing this) and there's lots of excitement and energy around it. Should be a lot of fun and another big motivator.

Sounds like everyone is doing well and getting back on track. I personally am really glad the holidays are over!

Hope to be back here with personals, etc. soon.

BillBlueEyes
01-09-2009, 06:58 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Yahoo - the last piece of pumpkin pie that DW brought home from the New Years Eve party is gone!!! It bugs her that I no longer eat that kind of stuff to clear out the fridge; the whole responsibility rests on her shoulders. CREDIT moi for seeing that every day this whole year and thinking, That's not about me.

maryblu - Whopping Big Kudos for your six years keeping off the 65-80 pounds. I salute that accomplishment. And thanks for the reminder that it takes "Constant Vigilance!" Yep, ole Oprah seemed to have slipped there. With all her brain power, just let that one slip past her.

You raise an interesting point about set points. There's more to set points than I understand. I don't know if sumptin' happens, of if a set point refers to the combination of our bodies and our lifestyle, which support a specific weight.

Sending condolences for your continuing senatorial saga. Looks like even Illinois is going to beat you to the senate floor.


onebyone - LOL at your thought that going to work day after day makes one a "growly bear." Yep, recognize that. Yay for packed lunch and snacks.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for stepping out and sponsoring the networking event. Neat that your treadmill topped making soup; that's one compelling treadmill.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Congrats on the 170 milestone. Big Kudos for bringing your own food to a FREE pizza event. Admiring your thoroughly thinking through the transition from your working-well Bistro meals to the next thing. Kudos for that planning.

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for a tweaked knee. Congratulation to your DS for processing one more of the bad guys so that he will have a strong immune system as an adult. My sympathies that you "seem to have avoided some of the tinkering habits that many of the males of the species have picked up." Wondering if you've considered testosterone therapy to help you out there, LOL. Tinkering is like male meditation.

Susan (QuilterInVA) - Big Kudos for promptly distributing that tin of cookies. Yay that you'll get your hand back for quilting. Ouch for the year end report stress - at least there's a known time frame for that to end.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Your Wellness Challenge sounds fun, and as you mentioned, motivational. I especially like the team part - a small group of cohorts working to earn a T-Shirt together (and keeping people like RobinW in business, LOL).

shrinkin - Ouch for feeling sick. Ouch for sixteen hour days with too much stress. Kudos for "just putting one foot in front of the other." Sending supportive thoughts for your stress and virtual chicken soup to cure everything else. I thought of you when starting the Jan09 thread, recalling that you're the guardian when I forget and, in my morning stupor, continue posting in the old thread until you remind me.

davidette - Kudos for "every bite eaten as consciously as possible, without distractions." Beck has stressed that the core strategies are the key to success; sounds like you're on the way.

Readers - ". . . The Beck Diet For Life Program teaches you how to talk back to these thoughts so that you stand firm and exercise your resistance muscle. ..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

onebyone
01-09-2009, 08:35 AM
Hi Coaches

I have 15min to get it together and get me out the door (TGIF for real for me today) but wanted to pop by and report in: OP98% yesterday (I subbed pea soup for barley soup by accident) - took my noontime 15+min walk - could have had more veggies at dinner. I had none.

Since I thought I set the alarm and didn't, sheesh I have no time for breakfast so will get one when I get to the school. "Yum, what a treat"" is what I say to the thought of that!

Gotta go.

Back for personals tonight.

lilyyoung
01-09-2009, 08:35 AM
I haven't read the other posts for a few days. I hope to catch up over the weekend. I told my coach that I've been posting to this board, and she suggested that I use this board as my coach. I wanted to do that anyway so that worked out. So good morning, coaches/buddies! :hun:
My new plan is:
1. Don't pull defeat out of the jaws of victory. I've learned a lot of healthy eating skills these last few months.
2. Read cards three times a day.
3. Reread Beck Diet Solution. (I started re-reading it and put the new book aside for a little while.)
4. Make a daily to do list or use the one I already made. Read it in the morning. Look at it later in the day to see how I did.
Credit moi-I exercised yesterday. PT exercises for a few minutes, but I did it. I also had a 6 block spontaneous walk. I created my new graph this morning. I was off my plan by lunchtime yesterday but I didn't use it as an excuse to binge. I limited it.
The to do list:
Plan and follow a healthful eating plan.
Monitor what I eat in writing.
If I make a substitution, keep it close to the number of points I planned for.
Eat slowly and mindfuly.
Give myself credit.
Read Advantages. Read response cards.
Reduce Stress.
Do spontaneous and planned exercise.
Tolerate negative emotions without turning to food.
Get back on track immediately.
Calm down before I eat.
Graph changes in weight daily.

kuhljeanie
01-09-2009, 10:59 AM
had a good discussion last night with DH re: my eventual transition from bistro. it's a good plan; i'm working through about 10 meals in excel, which entails using fitday to tweak the right macro ratios and cals; going on to the dorothy lane market website to price out the groceries and quanitities required to make a batch (12 or 16 of a particular meal), and estimating the effort required by playing with the ingredients to see how low we can go with prep time. (can anyone spot the project manager? :)) i'm almost through the list. when i'm done, i'll actually MAKE the meals (one or two at a time) and work on them until i'm happy with the way they taste (an aspect that i failed at last time - i'd wing my recipes, and sometimes they'd suck, so the food would rot in the fridge while i'd get pizza.) only once i'm satisfied with a meal for taste, nutrition, and effort to produce, i'll make it in bulk. when i have 10 -12 meals that i've successfully produced in bulk, i'll cancel my bistro subscription.

sounds pretty involved, huh? it kind of is - but i'm hoping that once i do all the foundation work, it'll be my plan forever - weight-loss-inducing, minimal effort (i'm guessing no more than 2 hours prep a week, max), and far more affordable than bistro over the long haul. if i get bored, i can do the groundwork and introduce a new meal - but a new meal every so often shouldn't be too much overhead. DH is behind my plan and has offered to help in whatever way he can - including prepping and eating these meals during the week himself. he's also willing to taste test. bless! this is in addition to taking el nino by himself saturday mornings so i can do my long run. what a guy.

was feeling really hungry last night, so i added an extra snack that put me 50 calories over my cal target. turned out i had burned 600 calories over the ole' burn target, so i'm all kinds of good - and maybe a little more trusting of my body's hunger signals. i woke up ravenous this morning. yay, exercise!

hiya anne! sorry to hear DS is sick. between that and a bum knee - glad to hear that you're listening to your body. cheers! mary, i know exactly what you mean. i ate like a friggin' HOG over the holidays, and didn't gain as much as i thought i should have. the set point theory makes sense to me. am guessing that a new set point is probably as "strong" as it is "long" - the longer you stay at a particular weight, the more strongly your body works to get back to it. i'm also thinking, though, that our ideas of gross overeating may have shifted. my physical perception of uncomfortably full may be completely different from what it was two years ago. hard to measure that empirically, though, since i didn't baseline it back when (not sure how you'd do that to begin with.) i'll stop here - dangerously close to serious geek territory. :) kim, that wellness challenge sounds AWESOME. i really love that they award points not just for the results (weight, measurements) but for the behavior too. right freakin' on! bill, interesting note about your wife. makes me wonder - are there small, subtle ways that my weight loss and new eating impacts my own DH? has my eating disorder helped me recognize other, non-helpful coping mechanisms in other people, making me more compassionate? (see mary's earlier reference to oprah.) will i forget that if/when i feel like i've finally got it licked? this sounds like yet another strong argument not only to persist in victory, but to persist in treating overeating as a chronic (as in for LIFE) issue. it's a mixed bag of good and bad...onebyone, here's to staying on plan even though you didn't get breakfast at home today. i know that's historically been a toughie for you! hi lily! lovely to hear from you! that's an awfully long list you've got - are there enough things on it that you already do, that you won't feel like you're changing everything at once (which is really, really hard)?

off to my first meeting of the day...have a great one, y'all!

RobinW
01-09-2009, 11:27 AM
:wave: checking in!

op and feeling great!

......Ive been trying to stay off the scale, I dont need to be fighting with myself over numbers when I can keep on keepin' on....and my clothes are getting bigger :D

Have a great day everyone!

onebyone
01-09-2009, 08:04 PM
Well coaches I'm back.

Holy crow am I exhausted. I am achey too. I did everything in the studio but the inventory and anything to do with cleaning the kiln room, but I'll have plenty of time to get to that next week.

Why you ask? Because the transit workers voted down the forced vote (75% against) and so now we have a transit strike with no end in sight. Some federal mediator is meeting with the two sides separately on Monday to see if they can get something going. This means that I continue to get a ride into the school with Val in the office and I am there for the full work day: 9-5. I have Fridays off though and won't be in. If I am smart, I will be doing my homework at the school so I don't know.
It's stressful.
The whole city is in a bad mood.
Parking is hard to come by and getting harder. Traffic is picking up again as people get back to the regular schedule after the holidays. It's cold and getting colder.

Foodwise I was a bit off plan today. Maybe 80% for the day. I had some fried homefried potatoes at breakfast which are sort of on plan. Too many carbs as I had the toast AND the potatoes. But then for lunch there were no carbs of note so that was on plan (carbs once before 3 is the official line for today. Potatoes=1 and bread =1 ... so this was one more = offplan). For dinner I ate bbq chicken wings. I hurled myself through the door and onto the couch, exhausted, and DH had dinner ready. I ate them. The skin I am not supposed to have but I am truly unwilling to give that up. I ate it last week sometime too. Really not ready to eat skinless chicken. so....... coaches. I really really want chocolate and desserts of any kind. I've been thinking about them all afternoon. But that's as far as I go with that. It's cause I am tired is all, and a growly bear trying to soothe myself when I'd rather be hibernating. maybe the parties involved in the transit strike are also growly northern bears and that's why they can't come up with a compromise for us, the citizens, eh?

Wow. Now I'm getting a headache. I better just go rest. Sorry I can't get to personals today. Have a great night.

AnneWonders
01-09-2009, 10:31 PM
Coaches/Buddies I was home all day with DS, who seems better but not well yet. He is chewing on EVERYTHING. Because of the illness I did not start easing into the Phase 2 food plan as expected, but did make a plan and stuck to it today, mostly. I had one unplanned square of dark chocolate after dinner that wasn't on the plan (my plan was a little light today and I was hungrier and more tired than normal). I suppose I must do my Cheat Sheet on that. I was up with DS last night so my defenses are down and I'll have to shore them up; Response Cards here I come. Looking forward to my popcorn tonight!

maryblu You talk about the Maintainers as if they/we have it all together. Here's a secret--we are all Maintainers, and none of us know it all. I just keep learning. It is why I read so much. I continue to have the hope that I'll find something to make this all easy, or at least easier.

I don't know much about set points. My body continues to surprise me. I haven't yet reached a serious plateau that I couldn't explain by my behavior. I can't always explain the behavior, LOL. I guess that is why I'm doing Beck stuff.

Kim The Wellness Challenge seems interesting. Do you find the prize motivating? Or the camaraderie? (I even looked that up and it still looks like it is spelled wrong!)

Bill Has your DW taken to throwing stuff out yet? Ah, tinkering. DH (also an engineer) can do it for hours?

onebyone I hope that strike ends soon. Sounds like you are having a rough time with the logistics I take for granted.

Lily Sounds like you need lots of credit. Like the To Do list.

Jeanie Wow! Just wow.

RobinW Hurray for bigger clothes!

Since my day to myself got shot today, I'll have to plan to plan again on Phase 2. I don't have the energy tonight, so maybe tomorrow.

Anne

maryblu
01-09-2009, 10:34 PM
'lo, Beckies,

OMG, Kuhljeanie, yessssssss..I can *so* spot the Project Manager. You sure know how to take the fun out of cooking. :rofl::rofl: Hats off to ya, girl. Wuddeva works.

Have had another delightful day just keeping the volume adjustment low. When I keep it low, I don't have to track so much the *what*.

I will never forget something I learned on Jeopardy about 25 yrs. ago. It was just after Alex Trebek took over as host. (Toss up question for those of us of a certain....ahemm.....vintage........without googling it, who was the FIRST host of Jeopardy??)

The champion had lost a lot of weight, I think 100#s. Alex asked him for advice for those in the audience who were dieting. This is almost verbatim, because it struck me so ...

..He said, "I would say don't worry so much about what you eat as how you think about food." Sound like Beck?

I hope he kept it off. He won a pile of money.

I am working on another training session; will incorporate CBT, as it is now my "go to" solution for lots of behavior modification, as others have so eloquently noted here.

Stay warm and dry, all. Spring is coming!

landlady6
01-10-2009, 12:01 AM
HI there everyone,
Taking off my mask, snorkel and fins from over here in WA state to say hello to my peeps! Things are settling down now-at least the main highway is open again. Anyway, I had set a small goal to lose 5 lbs in 2 weeks (committed on the wii with weigh ins everyday)..I got to 4.4. I was a bit disappointed since I have been exercising and eating really well (not on an official plan or even planning a lot ahead yet) and drinking more water. Usually, at the beginning of changing my eating habits, I lose a LOT of lbs... here's to being over 40 I guess? Oh well.. I still feel really good, alert and, while tired from working the whole week after 2.5. weeks off, I feel more rested than I usually do. I definitely went to bed earlier several nights this past week than usual-makes a difference. I am a single mom, as many of you know, and fight wanting to stay up late for "me time" after dd goes to bed. Many times, eating is a part of "me time". I tried on for size "what does my body need right now?" this week and many times it was REST not FOOD... food was the habit and brings joy on some level. Really paying attention and feeding my body nutritious and delicious food is REAL me time!!!

kuhljeanie: you could write a book with your recipes in it.. seriously, I would buy! I love that idea. I took a class many years ago called something like, "Cooking ahead one month at a time". It included shopping lists and how to prep all the stuff for all the meals and you do all the work in one day for one month. I should try to dig that stuff up to see if the meals appeal to me now-I vaguely remember what the food was besides there being several casseroles.

wndranne: Wow-thanks for the reality check on how maintainers think. It really does remind me that this whole thing is a journey and, for us, it will never end. It will always be something we have to work at. Big congrats on keeping so much weight off for so many years. It really is valuable for us to hear from people like you and Bill who have maintained their goal weight for so long.

BBE: Have things melted yet over there? It was nasty weather a few days ago but I haven't kept up since then... BRRRRR.

Mary: No clue who the host was before Alex, I love, love, love the words "spring is comin"! :) What do you mean when you say you are working on another training session? Just curious if it is exercise or food plan or something else? You can do it girl! I mean WE can do it! :)


Hello to everyone else-I will be back tomorrow, must put smallfry down and then myself.
Happy Weekend! :)

BillBlueEyes
01-10-2009, 07:01 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - After dinner snack was grapefruit, a particularly sweet and juicy one. CREDIT moi. It's that time of year to send heaping gratitude to the California growers and Florida farmers who continue to send shipments of citrus fruits to the frigid Northeast.

maryblu - That's a neat statement, "I would say don't worry so much about what you eat as how you think about food." Yep, sounds Beck to me. Thanks for the reminder "Spring is coming!" The seed catalogs are arriving daily.

Heidi (landlady6) - Kudos for seeing that sometimes your body "needs REST not FOOD." What an insight.

Ouch for your flooding; it was amazing to see pictures in the paper of the major disruptions in Washington state due to highway flooding. Glad to hear that the major highway has reopened. Nope, we're not thawed here yet. In fact, with a sheet of ice on the ground, some nine inches of snow are predicted. I'm grateful to those who remind me that the days are getting longer and that Spring is coming.


Growly Bear (onebyone) - Ouch that the transportation union voted to continue the strike. Double Ouch for craving dark chocolate, but Kudos for resisting. Yay for all the work you did in the ceramic studio. Good luck in thinking up a plan for full days at the school..

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for "keep on keepin' on....and my clothes are getting bigger." Yep, nothing tastes as good as baggy pants feel.

Project Manager Jean (kuhljeanie) - Missing the Risk/Opportunity chart, LOL. I do admire the Jean style thoroughness you bring to your planning.

Pondering your comments that recognizing that on-plan eating is a chronic issue helps you to be more compassionate toward non-helpful coping mechanisms in others. I feel that also. I'm pleased that being a maintainer and reading the struggles of others here has made me more aware of how little I know about this process. Particularly pleased because I once read of a successful loser who advertised his services as a professional will power guru (what a crock, LOL). Thanks for those thoughts.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for DS not feeling well yet. But Yay for chewing on everything - so much to learn and the mouth is such a powerful sensor.

Yep, my DW is a master of throwing away food. Before her weekly shopping trip she just discards the leftovers that interfere with moving forward. It's like the fridge is a tool to help her make our life. I admire her ability.


lilyyoung - Kudos for resolving the tension with your real life Diet Coach; smart move to take action there. And Kudos for giving yourself credit for a nice list of steps getting a healthy lifestyle together.

Do you have a specific strategy for "Tolerate negative emotions without turning to food."


Readers - ". . . If you don't learn how to talk back to your sabotaging thoughts, you will give in, eat, and weaken your resistance muscle." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

davidette
01-10-2009, 08:49 AM
I'm can't say I'm happy to read so much about "constant vigilance". I've always harbored the notion that if I can make healthy eating a habit, I'll be free of my food obsession. I quit smoking 25 years ago and alcohol 22 years ago and meat 6 years ago and even the thought of returning to any of those habits never occurs to me. No problem (knock on wood). I will admit I made a few "practice runs" before I was successful. I've always believed my diet failures were just that, and eventually I'd be able to put the whole issue behind me.

What I'm hearing from you long-timers is forget it, it's never over. I think I knew that on some level. I'm not going to let it discourage me, I'll try to focus on how much easier it will get to be. Also it's an opportunity to be proud of myself every single day. My other addictions may not be difficult to control, but since they don't provide a challenge, I seldom feel a sense of accomplishment. Going to take some thought retraining.

Made it the requisite 3 days of totally eating consciously. :cheer2: Obviously since it was such a struggle, I should keep at it. But before my perfectionism sabotages my willpower, I think I'm going to allow one distraction; eating with family and friends, when the situation occurs. I know darn well it's the TV/reading/snacking pattern that does me in. Adding in next skill: Identifying hunger/craving desire, and plan to stay here for a while. I do think there is a tendency to try to do too much, too well, too soon, which can be a sneaky way to sabotage myself.


Bill I like your phrase That's not about me; a new mantra for when I spy the chips and crackers. And Nothing tastes as good as baggy pants . I'm making response cards for them!

Citrus fruit is particularly delightful this time of year, isn't it? Have you tried Cara Cara oranges? You can feel the sunshine!:sunny:There are some benefits to eating consciously.


bennyhannamama - A friend of mine is starting the Wellness Challenge at our gym - She's very excited too. It will be interesting to see how the programs compare. A friendly group atmosphere is so motivating; like here! :grouphug:

kuhljeanie - Another one for a response card: Our set point is as strong as it is long; there's a catchy way to remember it will get easier. Thanks for the encouragement.

RobinW I share your reluctance to get on the scale. When you do, I've found it helpful to use the scale as a thermometer analogy; we don't freak out over a 99 degree temperature; it's just a body quirk.

landlady6 Kudos on asking what you body needs right now; I've been surprised to find, working on the "identify hunger/craving/desire" skill, often I'm just plain thirsty!

Have a great weekend!

RobinW
01-10-2009, 11:48 AM
Good Morning

.......another observation

Hubby took me out for dinner last night, and around here if you dont go early on a friday night you usually have a 45 min wait. Buy the time we got where we were going, it was a 35-45 min wait. Neither of us wanted to wait that long.

So.....I left the restaurant decision up to him. Well....we ended up at The Original pancake House. I didnt realize until I sat down and looked at the menu that it was basically carb haven!! :eek: I had a broccoli omelette.

I had eggs for lunch, and wasnt happy with my choices at the pancake house. I found myself resenting the fact that the food wasnt particularly good, I resented the fact that this was my 3rd and final meal of the day and I didnt enjoy it!

This took up about 2 stupid hours of fighting with myself. When I got home I wanted to make myself another meal. A good one!! One that tasted good, and was worthy of being one of my daily meals!!

Seems Ive become a food snob! :rofl: If Im going to eat it, it better be good, and worthy!! :lol: How funny is that?!! Im thinking this is probably a very good thing. Eating clean and healthy is a good thing. Ive finally realized that I feel so much better eating this way. Beck has helped so much in dealing with the head stuff that my attitude is changing about the way I look at food. You know what? I LIKE it!!

When I got home, I decided to have 2 baby dill pickles (off plan) but the flavour was strong enough to get my mind and tastebuds thinking about something else. I didnt eat another meal and was more settled after my discussion with myself :lol:

Bill~ Big Kudos for not being the fridge cleaner outer anymore!!

onebyone~ take your growly bear home, bundle up on nice warm clothes, get into bed with a good book :D I hate it when food talks to me and tells me I should be eating this or that :( Ive gotten better at shutting it out....sending positive thoughts your way to shut out the chocolate talk!

davidette~ Ive had those same thoughts....it never gets easier etc etc. But I believe if you stick with this program, it will get easier. It has for me.

landlady~ Kudos for your 4.4lbs gone!! :cb: :cb:

Food and exercise is going good :) I still need to get more water in tho :sorry: I know it makes a difference, but drinking cold water, and having to pee in our very very cold shop bathroom is a big deterrant :( I'll work on it.

Have a great weekend everyone!

AnneWonders
01-10-2009, 01:31 PM
Coaches/Buddies I did my Cheat Sheet on the chocolate last night, and basically came to the conclusion that my planning wasn't terribly good, since dinner was pretty calorie dense and volumetrically small, and after 20 minutes I was still hungry. I'm going to try to do better planning, not leaving things to the last minute and think a bit more about the content of my meals and snacks. I say try because with sick kids, things don't always go smoothly and this is life and not fantasyland.

The scale was kind this morning and I'm 1 pound away from my second 5 lb goal. I found a neat abs workout in Runner's World that is targeted for runner's needs, and told myself that I could try it, even if it wasn't on the NRLW program, which frankly isn't going so well for me--I'm getting too sore and it's wiping out days. I'm keeping at it at a low level to see if it gets better given some time. On track today so far, but it is pretty early for me. DH took DD to the park and DS is sleeping, so using my time now to (hopefully) get to sleep early. I had 8 (!!) almost uninterrupted hours of sleep last night, but it is my night with DS tonight, so I'm not expecting a repeat performance.

maryblu Love the Jeopardy contestant quote. Thanks for sharing!

Heidi Great job on those 4.4 in two teeny tiny weeks! Here's hoping you guys dry out soon.

Bill I think I envy your lentils more than your grapefruit, but it sounds excruciatingly healthy. Glad you enjoyed it! Interesting thought about the mouth being a sensor. For all of us I suppose, LOL.

davidette I'm sorry you are bummed about it being "never over." Sometimes I sort of get down about that too, and there are hard times when I just want to wallow in the unfairness. But I figure, what am I gonna do, quit? Even the hard times now are so much less than the hard times when I was morbidly obese. Most of the time when you get to a happy weight, you just need a few course corrections here and there. Your new habits carry you through. It's not so bad--I don't spend much time pining for the life of eating Doritos by the bag on the couch watching bad TV. The planning and monitoring is a small daily investment and frankly I love the way exercise makes me feel. And when I need a bigger course correction (like now, since pregnancy sent me out into the shipping lanes), I do it. Sure it would more fun to do what I feel like, but then I read my Advantages list, and it's crystal clear to me that this is worth it.

RobinW Sorry to hear about your disappointment with your dinner choice. Have I BTDT! I think you handled it well!

Ah, I finished The Instinct Diet. Definitely a "diet" book and not a book about weight loss. Liked it, with a couple caveats. It looks like a good overall program that keeps you both full and happy (and for me these are not really the same thing). It gives 4 basic menus, vegetarian and omnivorous menus, with basic (no cook or nearly so) and cooking choices with recipes, all with an intro two week Phase 1 and a longer term Phase 2. The caveats: while it does a good job of summarizing most of the good stuff I know about weight loss all in one spot, I don't think I got much new information here. It is extremely program focused. And finally, about half the book is recipes, which are essentially useless for me. I may play with the book a little more to milk it for a few ideas, but I'm not going to be on that program, or probably won't use it as one of my standard references.

Anne

AgileK9s
01-10-2009, 01:45 PM
Hi everyone. I stumbled across 3fatchicks by accident a couple of weeks ago when I was searching for something... Can't remember what now. More importantly I think was that I stumbled across a reference to The Beck Diet Solution. Lightbulb moment. I need to think like a thin person! I KNOW how to lose weight. And gain it back and lose it again and gain it back... I doubt there are many diet plans in existence that I haven't tried and I probably have read enough by now to become a nutritionist ;) It's my brain and emotions that do me in! I ordered the book and it came yesterday. I'm reading it now and am hopeful especially since I reached an all time high weight when I stepped on the scales yesterday morning.

I look forward to learning from you all and getting rid of my excess pounds for once and for all!

Kay

QuilterInVA
01-10-2009, 04:25 PM
Kay, welcome to our group. This is a wonderful, supportive group of people and we'll be glad to help you, too.

Good afternoon, everyone. I had WI at WW today - down another 2.6 pounds so that makes a total of 10.2 in 4 weeks. I am one happy person.

I'll be able to do all my Curves again starting new week. I don't have to wear the brace on my thumb anymore. Exercise is a big help to me in keeping my appetite at bay.

My "Beck Diet for Life" book came yesterday. It looks interesting so I'll start reading it today.

angelmomma210
01-10-2009, 09:28 PM
Welcome to all of our new people.

Doing alot better back to getting rid of the weight that I did gain over our break. Feel more in control and doing better with the a-fib. Feel more in control with the new meds. Glad for that.

Not much happening. I am so glad to read about what is happening to all. Thanks for all the support.

BillBlueEyes
01-11-2009, 05:01 AM
:welcome: AgileK9s :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Coach / Diet Buddy Group.

And, in honor of your first post on 3FC, :wel3fc:

Neat that you "stumbled across" The Beck Diet Solution!

How did you find this thread on 3FC?

BillBlueEyes
01-11-2009, 06:10 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - My lunch of leftovers yesterday finished up three containers in the fridge. CREDIT moi for working to create order since I'm the one who insists that every uneaten bite be saved as a leftover and long-suffering DW is the one who has to toss whatever doesn't get eaten. AND they were delicious in themselves AND they reminded me of the meals from which they came.

Had a cookie after coming in from a cold, cold bird walk. Oh Well. I was anticipating coffee and a small muffin - our standard fare. But neither were available and chocolate chip cookies were so I pounced. I did stop at one, CREDIT moi for that. Even though I seriously avoid cookies, after I had the one, the whole container suddenly looked good. I rarely crave one of something. When I crave, it's the whole container that appeals.


Robin (RobinW) - Yay for being a food snob, LOL. If that's what it is to be fussy about what's going down, then I'm proud to be one also. Thanks for sharing your thinking process about the dinner out at "carb heaven." Remarkable that your brain knows that it isn't satisfied and wants real food. Big Kudos for standing down the draw to have a second dinner.

Anne (wndranne) - Kudos for following through with the Cheat Sheet about the chocolate. I admire your diligence in using the Beck strategies.

Yay for 8 hours of sleep. Wishing you well in selecting your exercise plan; methinks you're right on in avoiding "too sore." Neat distinction you make from The Instinct Diet that full and happy aren't the same thing for you. Yep, RobinW certainly displayed that for us.


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Congrats on the 10.2 pounds in four weeks. Easy to imagine that your're "one happy person." Yay for the thumb out of its brace.

Chris (Anglemomma210) - Yay for the continued calm heart rate. Great to hear that tone of "Feel more in control."

davidette - Congratulations on maintaining your choices on smoking, alcohol, and meat. That's some impressive years on maintenance for those.

Your comments about "constant vigilance" reminds me that Meg always stresses that the challenge of weight loss isn't loss, but keeping it gone. Nevertheless, I too wish maintenance was as automatic as brushing my teeth. Even though I plan and execute the purchases of tooth paste and brushes and schedule brushing itself, I don't view myself as thinking about it. But eating I still do. The choices I make seem to get easier as the months go by, but the requirement to actively plan before going to a buffet or a place offering FREE food samples remains. And when I don't plan, I drift away from my eating plan. Thanks for stressing this point.

And yep, just had my first Cara Cara orange this week - super tasty, super sweet; we'll have more. I'm, of course, drawn to them because I love the majestic Crested Caracara, which I've only seen once, in Texas.


AgileK9s - Neat that you've just started The Beck Diet Solution. My take is that it's a great book to work, even though The Complete Beck Diet for Life is available. The core strategies are the same and all of us who have done the 42 program days will look forward to following and supporting your progress along the path.

Love your observation that you "KNOW how to lose weight." It seems to be the topic of the day that maintenance is the harder challenge.

Are you willing to tell us about your K9s?


Readers - "You will learn how to talk back to these thoughts by making Response Cards, which are index cards (or the equivalent) that are important reminders that you read every day. ..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

davidette
01-11-2009, 09:49 AM
Robin I am so impressed with your handling of the pancake house. I don't eat out much and when I do I anticipate enjoyment. Many times I been angry :tantrum: the meal did not live up to my expectations and used this as an excuse to come home and binge. The next time that happens I'll remember how you talked yourself through it. Thanks for the inspiration!

I'm going to the gym tomorrow for the first time in months and I know I'm going to feel really really good afterwards. Sore, but proud. I'm meeting friends for lunch afterwards to plan what exercise classes we can meet at regularly to motivate each other.

Thanks to all for the encouragement; it helps to hear the voices of experience confirm it does get easier.

bennyhannahmama
01-11-2009, 01:44 PM
Coaches

Here I am again. I'm getting very frustrated with my sporadic posting. I've made excuses to myself about why I'm not posting here, but they are really just that, excuses. I've spent plenty of time on the computer over the past few weeks, there's no good reason why I haven't posted. I think it's really just a very subtle self-sabotage. I've been fooling myself into thinking that I'm doing okay without trying to carefully follow the Beck principles (including checking in with my coaches/buddies), because I'm continuing to lose weight. How silly of me! I know better than to think that success can be measured by the #s on the scale (I'm just used to having to think about it in reverse terms: if the # hasn't moved down, it doesn't mean I'm not doing okay). What should have really tipped me off was the other night when I binged and then subsequently purged :( I have struggled with bulimia in the past, but this was the first incident like this in a long time. I'm trying to accept it as a wake up call.

I've kind of just been struggling in life as I try to find complete contentment and happiness with myself before I start trying to complicate things by adding someone else into my life. The struggle comes though in not wanting to shut people out of my life completely and enjoying the company of men :) Ugh!

I am also feeling very overwhelmed by the prospect of moving forward with my divorce, only because of (or mostly because of) the financial ramifications of that. I need to fill out paperwork for the mediator about our financials and I also need to get myself on a budget (which I've never done before). I'm finding all of this overwhelming in addition to my constant feeling of lack of control and organization in my home with meal planning, laundry, cleaning and paperwork.

So there you have it. That's where I am right now. None of these are reasons for me not to post here though. I think as people are starting to notice my weight loss (several co-workers said something last week), I'm starting to get scared... scared of success. Over the past several years, that fear has set in much sooner, so I thought I was escaping it this time. Nope, I don't think so, I just think it's gotten sneakier!

So by posting here right now, I am saying "screw you" to the fear and pushing through it! I deserve to be happy, I deserve to feel good about my body, I deserve to go out and meet new people.

While I typed this and ate my morning snack, I partially paid attention to my food (insert 1/2 a dancing broccoli!)

I woke up and did a 48 minute "mountain climb" workout on my elliptical :broc:

I posted here! :broc:

In order to keep posting from being too overwhelming, I am allowing myself to start personals with today's posts. So here I go...

Bill

I love your loss use of, "Oh well.", I think it's such a great example and one I need to learn from. I think 1 cookie when you usually have such difficulty is HUGE, congratulations for that.

Davidette

Good luck with your return to the gym and the lunch afterward. Sounds like you've got a great game-plan in place (meeeting friends at classes).

maryblu
01-11-2009, 02:32 PM
Lo, Beckies,

Lost ANOTHER meaningful, stunningly brilliant post last night. *sigh. I shudder to think about the lost opportunity.

Thankfully, we have lots of collective wisdom on this thread, and it is growing daily. Welcome, Kay. As for learning from us, it is such a two way proposition. The "new blood" on here has been delightful.

wndranne, wow.......a new coping mechanism for me, and I really think it is ingenious. Since my strategy is to eat less of what I want, but exactly what I want, and ONLY what I want, those restaurant disappointments really throw me. Not to mention tick me off! Two harmless but high power dill pickles to just snap your tastebuds is brilliant! Thanks for the tip.

davidette, thanks for recalling the wisdom, "Nothing tastes as good as baggy pants". I missed that originally. Sounds like a BillBE truism. My question, though is how to cook them. Merely boiling wouldn't do, I suspect. Perhaps some pesto.....

I made Spinach Pesto for the first time...it will certainly get me through until my own Basil season. I deem it a wonder food and apply liberally. I like it so much you could put it on a horse biscuit and I'd eat it. For those of you who don't know what a horse biscuit is, it is the same as "road apple". Think Amish country.

As for the leftover food dilemma and not being willing to discard, I am not sure what possesses me to put it in the fridge until it molds beyond recognition, but I have a new incentive not to overcrowd the refrigerator. Turns out the fridge needs good air flow to run most efficiently. Saving that stuff costs money. Who knew?

Hoping that our Beckies to the west are staying dry, and our Beckies to the east are just plain staying on their feet. We have another Blizzard Watch starting tonight. We just keep pushing the snow further down the banks, but it is getting neck deep on a tall giraffe.

Groundhog Day is only 3 weeks away...wow. Hang on, Beckies.

QuilterInVA
01-11-2009, 02:38 PM
Good afternoon, everyone! Another dismal rainy day here.:(

bennyhannahmama. Everyone has fear of the unknown. Just take it one day at a time and you'll get through the divorce. :hug: You are doing wonderful getting your exercise in and following your food plan.:carrot:

BBE A round of appaluse for you to stop at one cookie. I can't keep them in the house because I can't stop at one. I keep a big container in the fridge and put leftover veggies in there. At the end of the week, I make soup. I also can't stand to waste food but I can only eat so much with adverse effects so sometimes it gets pitched.

angelmomma210 Glad you are doing better. I hope the medications works well for you.

Have a great day!

RobinW
01-11-2009, 08:27 PM
:wave: Im op and doing good. Got chicken cooked for the week, and a pot of cream of celery soup done and in the fridge.

Kudos for me for not eating the sugary crumbs that fell off the tops of the muffins I made for dh "whew" ....and kudos for not picking to good bits that stuck to the pan :D

Have a nice evening everyone!

onebyone
01-11-2009, 09:50 PM
Evening Becksters

I made it to the end of my 2nd week. Credit moi for two weeks.

I had a tough "carb up" day yesterday. I get two of those a week where the last two meals are to be primarily carbohydrates and I equated carb with fat... as in I take "carb up" to mean it's okay to have deep fried foods, my all time favorites, and I this isn't what we are supposed to be doing. Hmmm. So I messed up one meal, though I didn't overeat (credit here) so that was mixed. I'll get this worked out sooner rather than later. Credit moi for realizing I need to adjust my thinking!

I got back on track today, credit moi, and won't even go near the scale or the measuring tape until Wednesday morning. I need to be reasonable, credit moi, giving my body time to get rid of the extra water retained from carb up day.

I made salmon muffins from a recipe thread for this week's lunches, so that's good, and I have already packed my lunchbox for tomorrow. I'm determined to give myself every opportunity to succeed.

And I remembered that I own something that may motivate me visually. I have a pair of black suede Levi's button up front fly jeans that I got when I lost 99lbs about 7 years ago. They fit for like one day. I may get them drycleaned and have them sitting out waiting for me to wear again.

Boy would I love to wear those.

I did succeed *every day* this week to get my 15minutes of exercise in and a few days way more than the 15. I think I will continue with the noontime walks while I am at the school this week.

And on another exercise note, the local Taoist Society has moved into the abandoned Swiss Chalet building up and around the corner from me! I didn't even know this until we drove by it in the morning on the way into the school last week. It's about 4 blocks further than where I usally walk around here. I have wanted to learn tai chi for ages, (ever since I saw the old Asian men and women in Toronto, out in the park behind the hotel where I was staying for a craft show, outside doing the slow tai chi movements in the early morning sun), and this group teaches it! They have a student rate: $60 for 4 months, (it takes 3 months to learn the 108 movements they say on their website), and the next beginner class is Feb 3rd. It's two hours a week, Tues and Thurs nights from 7-8. Since I never did join the gym downtown, (I still wish I could have but given the bus strike it's really a good thing I didn't as I wouldn't have been able to get there)I am thrilled to be able to join up for Tai Chi in my neighborhood. So I called and left a message about wanting to be in their beginneer class and left my name and #. Yay and a Big Credit Moi for taking a chance on something new. And something physical.

I heard back from the community garden people too and the meeting is on the 14th this week so that's exciting as well. I would love to bring community gardening to this neighbourhood if I can. the problem, again, is making sure I can get home from the meeting on Wed night. I'll bring $40 with me for cab fare just in case I need to take a cab. It's at least $25 to get me home from downtown where the meeting will be. I'll already be downtown for school so that part's easy. Credit Moi for stepping outside my comfort zone to check this out.

School starts tomorrow. My last semester. I'm not sure I am ready but I have no choice. I was feeling very blue today and some of that has passed. DH and I walked over to the mall to get me a flower. This time of year I need bright flowers--they help me get rid of the winter blues. I have a hard time in January so I guess it's just as well I'll get busy with school.

And so for those of you who may also feel the winter blues, I'll share my flowers with you.

See ya tomorrow!

PS. sorry for the lack of personals again... will get back to that tomorrow I promise.

AnneWonders
01-11-2009, 10:13 PM
Coaches/Buddies I just took a look at my numbers and I've lost 3.5 pounds this year, yep 11 days (the 11 days feel like about 100 with all the sicknesses around here). Huzzah! There is NO WAY I'm changing my food plan with those kind of results, Phase 2 or no Phase 2.

Got tired of my mouth watering when Bill talks about his lentils, so I made myself a huge pot of soup today. Now portioned out in 240 calorie servings and chilling in the freezer for lunches and the occasional snack. Don't know why or how but lentil soup has turned into a serious comfort food for me.

I got my ears (re)pierced yesterday afternoon. One had grown completely shut sometime in the whole pregnant/nursing/pregnant/nursing cycle. I have to stay out of the pool for 4 weeks, but I suppose I can live with that. DD and I had a nice girls' day out at the mall today. I'm pleased to say she behaved very well, and my stress levels were under control.

Kay Welcome! I hope this becomes a comfortable place for you to come chat.

Susan Glad you got your brace off and can get back to Curves. Big whoop for your weight loss.

Chris Really glad to hear you are doing better.

Bill I think a cookie is usually a reasonable substitution for a muffin, but sorry to hear that you had to tweak your plan. I hear you on the whole container thing. I'm convinced that ice cream is only sold in single serving containers.

davidette Tell us how your gym experience went! Do you feel renewed?

Kim I'm trying to be mindful this time around of building momentum and good habits while I'm doing well, so that they will be there for me when I get discouraged, and that time will come. This was a big point in CBDL; don't remember about BDS. Sorry that you feel overwhelmed by your divorce, but hope you let some people into your life before you get complete contentment and happiness. Maybe just good enough, eh? ;)

maryblu I guess I'm afraid of anything that would dress up a horse biscuit, LOL! Kudos are due to RobinW on the pancake house thing. I'm a carb fiend and can't think of much better than pancakes. Looking forward to Groundhog Day.

RobinW You are a nice, nice person to make muffins for your DH when you're abstaining right now. I just am not that strong. My strength lies in keeping that stuff out of the house!!

onebyone Congrats on your 15 minutes, and doubly so on getting back on track after the carb up meal. Smiling at your flower, and good luck on that last semester. Let us know how the Tai Chi goes.

Anne

landlady6
01-12-2009, 12:38 AM
HI there Becksters,
I love reading the posts... love the dill pickle idea so much and want the recipe for salmon muffins if it isn't too much trouble. I continue to Wiifit and run around with dd. I also went to a party last night with no kids there-how fun is that? Can you tell that I don't get out much? It was a 50th bday party for a friend-wonderful venue, live music and food catered by Buco de Bepo YUM! I took little portions of what looked good and only ate what I REALLY loved. I didn't have a plan other than that and wasn't stuffed and enjoyed myself. I took today off from exercise and will get up and wiifit again tomorrow morning.

onebyone-LOVE those gerber daisies! What a nice idea to bring some color and nature in when it is soooo blah outside. I get the blues bigtime this time of year as well. I am so impressed with your going out of your comfort zone with the tai chi and with the community garden!

Thought I would be doing personals but will have to get to that another time..Until tomorrow :)

BillBlueEyes
01-12-2009, 06:06 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Went to a Birthday Party for a one year old. Was actually fun to be surrounded by some ten kids of about that age: some walking, some loudly pre-verbal, some pre-social, some heart breakingly adorable. Was also fun to know that I was leaving without taking any with me, LOL. As planned, I had tea and cake. CREDIT moi. Grateful to the hostess for serving small squares of carrot cake without ice cream - as if being health conscious was a socially acceptable way of life.

Made pinto beans for this week's lunches. That's new for me. Think I still haven't added enough salt. I'm stingy adding salt to recipes, but beans require a bit to bring out their flavor. Pinto beans surprise me that they have such a nice flavor they don't need strong seasoning. Mine are just onion, green bell pepper, salt, and pepper.


maryblu - Ouch for approaching blizzard on top of what you've had. Good exercise that snow shoveling; those are the same muscles you'll be using for turning soil in a few months. Gotta get ready, LOL.

Yep, pesto is the proper sauce for "baggy pants," LOL. Another thread just speculated whether pesto would be OK on spaghetti squash, which I am now moved to try. How do you make spinach pesto? Is the spinach blanched or used raw as is basil. And still use pine nuts? I'm interested in trying it since we tend to run out of our frozen basil pesto before the new crop of basil arrives.

Ouch for you lost posts. Thanks for the reminder to always hit CNTL-A, CNTL-C before each [Preview Post] or [Submit Reply]. This stores a copy of my post on the clipboard so I can get it back, since I also have them disappear from time to time and am grateful for the easy recovery.


Heidi (landlady6) - Kudos for getting yourself out to an adult-only party; yep, you deserve adult time.

onebyone - Kudos to your DH for walking you to the mall for a flower, and thanks for sharing it with us. Your Tai Chi sounds like fun - neat that you're willing to try something new.

Neat demo of how to immediately recover after one meal instead of falling off the wagon.


Robin (RobinW) - WOW, BIG Kudos for not eating crumbs as well as the good bits stuck to the pan. I'm just not there yet. My childhood brain kicks in when a crumb or pan bit becomes available. Like the sound of your lunches all prepared, including, if my memory serves me, "high protein" cream of celery soup, though I can't remember where the protein comes from.

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on the 3.5 pound loss this year - that's a roaring start on 2009. May you continue the path.

Now you got me drooling for your vat of lentil soup, I do love it also. And thanks for understanding the draw to the whole bag of cookies with you neat, "hear you on the whole container thing. I'm convinced that ice cream is only sold in single serving containers." Yep, it's not just the pints.


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Ouch for "Another dismal rainy day." But those of us digging out of the snow while wearing multiple layers against serious cold have to work a bit to sound sympathetic, LOL.

Neat idea to accumulate leftover veggies for a soup.


Kim (bennyhannahmama) - Of course you feel overwhelmed moving forward with your divorce, it's an overwhelming life experience. But you are moving yourself forward one step at a time. The social steps you've been taking are worthy of serious congratulations. It makes sense to me that they take your breath away a bit.

I think you're smart to take your response to overeating as a wake up call. One of the big things we lose when we lose our soul-buddy life partner is that pillow talk reassurance that our mis-steps are just that - mis-steps. And we can say Oh Well and move on. Just like a quarterback who throws a missed pass, it isn't the end of the game. Sending you supportive thoughts for you to continue to remain in contact with your strong self as you plow forward on your current path.


davidette - Kudos that you're going to meet with friends to plan exercise classes to take together. That's a good strategy and fun.

Readers - ". . . You will rehearse the ideas in your Response Cards over and over again to prepare yourself for challenging situations. . . . " The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 20.

onebyone
01-12-2009, 08:35 AM
HI there Becksters,
I love reading the posts... love the dill pickle idea so much and want the recipe for salmon muffins if it isn't too much trouble.

Here's what I made. ...

TUNA OR SALMON MUFFINS
Three 6 ounce cans tuna or salmon, well-drained
3 eggs
1 stalk celery, chopped fine
1/2 medium green pepper, chopped fine, 2 1/4 ounces
3 tablespoons onion, chopped fine, 2 ounces
1/4 teaspoon Old Bay seasoning
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
6 ounces cheddar cheese, shredded

Mix all ingredients and spoon into 12 well-greased muffin cups. Bake at 350º for 30 minutes until puffed, set and lightly browned around the edges.

Makes 12 servings
Per Serving: 109 Calories; 8g Fat; 12g Protein; 1g Carbohydrate; trace Dietary Fiber; 1g Net Carb

NOTE: I lined the muffin tin with paper baking cups. bad idea. the egg stuck to the paper. O well. Live and learn. these were okay but kind of bland. I was surprised at that. They'll do the trick to keep me full for the week but I need something different for next week's lunches. Any ideas? low to no carb is what I am looking for. ..gotta run! Will be back after school...

RobinW
01-12-2009, 09:50 AM
onebyone~ here is a salmon patty recipe I use...

1 large can pink salmon (yucky stuff removed)
1 cup lowfat or ff cottage cheese (no you cant taste it in the recipe)
2 eggs
couple good shakes of parmesean cheese.
pepper to taste....I dont add salt because there is enough in everything else.

Form into loose balls and place in frying pan with melted tbsp butter. Flatten with your spatula and cook each side for about 6 min. Ive broiled these too, but I like the crunchy bits from frying them in butter :D

.........I'll be back a bit later to post

RobinW
01-12-2009, 11:46 AM
Bill~ it was really really hard!!!!!! As soon as those crispy sugary bits fell off, my mouth started to water! :lol: I managed to ignore them until I got everything out of the pan, then scooped them up really quick and tossed them in the sink....doused them with water. Same with the pan, got it in the sink and wet as quickly as possible :D What willpower cannot accomplish, water will :D

I love the carrot cake idea for a birthday cake, and the thought that healthy eating is a way of life.

My daughter went to a b-day party this weekend, and instead of candy in the pinata there was packets of tissue, purell, lip gloss, girly glitter, bandaides, etc etc! I thought that was such a cool idea!

The cream of celery soup has eggs in it for the protein....Ive even managed to get the fat content down quite a bit more too. The whole pot is only 769 calories, making it 154 calories per bowl (5 per pot) Ive subbed some whole eggs for whites, and ff cream cheese.


Anne~ I didnt think it was brave until I had to deal with the sugar toppings :lol: Muffins have never been a temptation for me....now if it were cookies, that would be a whole other issue.

Congratulations on the 3.5lbs gone!!!! What fun with your daughter. Me and mine love mother/daughter days!!

onebyone~ oooooOH those suede pants sound soooo nice!! A very nice incentive I think ;) Im sure your hubby does too :lol:

Im not sure how your carb up days work, I couldnt do it....the carbs would make me crazy. But anyway I was thinking...could you carb up on things like oatmeal, brown rice, whole wheat pasta and sweet potatoes?

Good for you staying off the scale until wednesday!! :hug:

maryblu~ Ive taken to posting half way thru a post, then going back and editing in the rest for that very reason. It can be so frustrating!

davidette~ Kudos for getting to the gym!! How did you like it?

Bennyhm~ :hug: for getting thru your divorce. It stinks! I dont know about you, but when I finally signed the final papers, and got the actual letter in the mail saying I was divorced I felt so free and alive!! Dont be afraid of succeeding.....you will do it! You will look wonderful, you will feel wonderful, and you will have your new life. Look forward to all the good things :) It does get better, I promise :)

.....things for me have been going pretty good. Im down another 2lbs this week and Im thrilled with that. I can feel stuff getting bigger!!! I am also trying very very hard not to set unreasonable goals, and put a prospective weight with an upcoming event. I know that this only sets me up for dissappointment. So the best thing for me is to keep on keeping on and take it just one day at a time.

Ive been getting my exercise in, Ive even worked my way up to 25 min on the treadmill instead of my planned 15min.

Have a great day everyone!

AgileK9s
01-12-2009, 11:57 AM
Thanks so much! Love the colorful flashing message - gives me a warm fuzzy :-) I honestly don't know how I stumbled across the Beck Diet Solution, but I made my ARC yesterday and just sent myself appointments to read it. Now I'm on day 2. Even though there are 6 weeks prep before I start "dieting" (hate that word), how can it not help to make me more aware of what I'm doing during those 6 weeks? Seems like weight loss is inevitable during that time just because I'm more conscious of what I'm eathing...

Thanks for the warm welcome. Much appreciated.

Kay

AgileK9s
01-12-2009, 12:04 PM
Ah. My K9's :-) They are my children. I have a Black Lab (Bear), a Red-Tri Australian Shepherd (Lena) and 3 Border Collies - Tess, Tess's daughter Jackie and Tess's son Petie. I used to compete in agility with Bear, Lena and Tess. I was having a little chat with Lena the other day because she tends to put on weight easily just like I do and I was telling her that when the snow finally goes away in June :-) she and I need to get out in the back yard with some jumps and tunnels so we can both run. I am SO out of shape it's terrible. I'm going to have to rebuild my stamina for running with the dogs in agility from the beginning. Ouch.

Kay

angelmomma210
01-12-2009, 02:37 PM
Hey all. Well it is monday and no snow or rain. Yeah. The sun should be coming out here this pm. That will be nice.

Not much happening here. Hope to do some yarn spinning tonight and also some taekwondo. Have not done tkd is a while and plan on getting back into it today. We will see what happens. Time is short so have a good day.

bennyhannahmama
01-12-2009, 02:50 PM
Coaches

Okay, yesterday was an improvement. I posted here :broc: (I know I already gave myself credit for that yesterday, but what the heck!)

I also finished reading the first chapter of the new book :broc:

I ate slowly and consciously for some of my meals :broc:

I had some licks and tastes that I shouldn't have had. I think I've forgotten how to even identify the "voices", so I need to work on that. I can't counter them with a response if I'm not even aware of them in the first place.

Last night I went to the gym for the Wellness Challenge meeting... 119 people signed up! I am so excited... I think this will be so helpful. :broc:

I think I remembered to give myself credit once or twice yesterday :broc:
But I know this is an area I really need to work on.

I finally read my ARC 2 times yesterday! :broc: Although I have been reading them once per day for the most part, I can't remember the last time I read them twice in one day.

So overall, yesterday was a marked improvement and I'm giving myself credit for that right now! :broc:

Maryblu Ugh, I hate lost posts! However, let's hope that we are still benefiting from typing out our feelings, even if they disappear into cyberspace :(

Quilter

Thanks for your words of encouragement, they really mean a lot to me!

Robin

Kudos to you for not eating the muffin tops, crumbs, etc. and kudos to you for giving yourself kudos :D i'm working on the second part so am impressed when i see others do it successfully!

onebyone

Congrats for your 2 weeks back in (remember how hopeless you were just a short while ago... look how you've turned that around!!)

I sure hope you have those pants listed on your ARC... I think getting them cleaned and sitting out for you to wear (you WILL wear them again!) is a fantastic idea. I personally might specifically make response cards to any sabotaging thoughts that tell you that you might not wear them.

Oh and that's such great news about the Tai Chi class... see, everything happens for a reason... if you had joined the gym you would not be in a good situation right now. I can't wait to hear about the classes and I think you should be giving yourself major credit for taking the chance and doing these classes... I bet it will have a very positive effect on your life!

Oh and finally, thanks for sharing your flowers, they are beautiful and did make me feel good just looking at them!

Anne
As far as comfort foods go, I think lentil soup is a pretty fantastic one to have in your arsenal...lol! You're making me want some now too, I might just have to make some this week. Kudos to you for portioning it out, definitely makes life easier. Congratulations on the weight loss and I don't blame you for not wanting to change things up (especially if you are satisfied)-- if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

landlady

I too have 2 little ones and know how exciting it is to be an adult only atmosphere :) Congrats on handling the food situation so well... sounds like you did fantastic! (I love Buco de Bepo... or however, that's spelled!) Oh and I'm glad you keep mentioning the Wii Fit, hopefully I will remember to spend more time on mine (I received it as a Chanukah gift right around the same time I got my gym membership, so it's a tough choice between gym and Wii fit!)

Bill

Just a huge smile on my face as I read about your experience at the one-year-old birthday part and your pleasure with it, including the not taking any of them home...lol! Spoken like a true future grandfather :)
Nice job on the tea and cake as planned (and I love to hear that you planned to have the cake... that's what I would do in a similar situation...shows that your plan is reasonable and for life.)

Thanks for the control-A, control-C pointer-- I don't typically do that and will now try to remember to.

Your kind and wise words in regards to the drama that is my life these days, mean SO much to me. Thank you.

Robin
What willpower cannot accomplish, water will

I LOVE this line! It's so true :)
When you get a chance, do you care to share the soup recipe?

Congrats on all your success with exercising, eating well, etc.

Thanks, it's always good to hear from people who have BTDT (been there done that) in terms of the divorce. We haven't even filed yet, so there's still a long road ahead of us. I am glad that there is movement on the road though!

Kay
Another wecome! I think you probably will find that you lose weight in being more aware of your thoughts, eating, etc. Congratulations on making your ARC-- shows you are committed to doing this and taking care of yourself!


I forgot how wonderful it feels to reply with "personals"... it really helps with feeling more connected to the group. I did go 20 minutes over on my lunch hour though, so I better get back to work now!

Hope you are all having a great day!

kuhljeanie
01-12-2009, 05:28 PM
happy monday all! just a flyby - i've got a bazillion errands to run before the day ends. did my first long training run yesterday (a whopping 4 miler) which just sucked. it was cold, i was whiny, i miss my old 5 mile loop in cincinnati and need to spend more time planning my runs. and it was cold. did i mention the weather? ugh.

food still good, though my first attempt at bistro-style bbq pork tenderloin came out too rubbery. will have to figure out a cooking method that leaves meat tender after freezing and nuking. this could take a while - very glad i didn't ruin 3 lbs of the stuff.

cheers all!

AnneWonders
01-12-2009, 10:07 PM
Coaches/Buddies Today was mostly on plan with the exception of dinner. I was in a major traffic jam behind a train that got stuck, which in turn basically shut down a freeway. Since I was so late, I had DH pick up some relatively healthy fast food, similar to Panda Express. I thought about doing a Cheat Sheet on it, but hey, I think if plans need to include the possibility of a train getting stuck, then perhaps I'm overplanning. The backup meal was right on the calories of the planned one anyway, and was in the same spirit. Any objectors?

I hit my 5 lb goal today and ordered the CD. My next 5 pound goal puts me squarely back in the 100s. Calling it onederland always seems like making it a fairy tale to me, and it's all real. I can't wait to get "home." I also had the most glorious run today!

Heidi I don't remember what a party with no kids is like! Glad you had fun.

Bill Now your kind of party I'm well acquainted with these days. Sometimes I'd like not to take any home with me, LOL.

onebyone Salmon "muffins" just brings to much muffin baggage for me and I was thinking eewwww. But you are really making salmon meatballs, which sounds just fine to me. This startled me into realizing (again) just how much of a difference the language we chose can make. Hmmm...

RobinW Good work on your celery soup, and your 25 minutes. I must keep that pinata idea in mind for my DD's birthday, when she gets old enough to trust with a big ol' whacking stick! We are always looking for non-food treats.

Kay I think you are the only person I've met who has more dogs than we did, four at one time (time has passed and we are down to one). The house was always chaos. Wow, you have border collies too! Hope you have a BIG yard, and agility seems like a real good option for keeping them interested.

Chris Your spinning yarn and doing taekwondo on the same evening made me smile. I like the unpredictability!

Kim Wow. I haven't seen that many broccolis in a long time! Woo HOO!

Jean Sorry to hear about your sucky long run. Which training plan are you following? When is the FPM? I used to want to do that one, just because of the name. I'm hoping to run another in 2010, if I can keep myself uninjured.

Anne

maryblu
01-13-2009, 12:19 AM
YO!! BECKIES!!!

Quick, loud, shout out to Beckies. So much to say, so little time.

I spent my on-line time tonight on Oprah's web cast with Bob Greene. Nothing new to report.......he advocated alot of strategies that could only be called "Beckian". Imagine that.

Thanks, BillBE for the tips on how to salvage posts...will "try to remember"..and you remeber thoses lyrics, for sure.

As for the spinach pesto, I used spinach instead of basil........and that would be LIBERALLY... since I have basil up the wazoooooo in summer, I use it LIBERALLY.........so for spinach pesto......spinach, lots,(raw) garlic, lots, pine nuts, as you wish, parmesan, as you wish......all in the food processor, with olive oil, to taste.......as I process it all up, I add olive oil for the right consistancy.......a very exact science.......

Kay, just the quickest shout out.....Bear..OMG!!! our dear, dear, Bear, 13 yrs. ..a black lab/chow cross......abandoned as a puppy and ours from about 7 weeks on.....such a family member ..and a member of our whole neighborhood....he died on June 21..and people on both lakes gave their regrets...he was that much a part of the neighborhood.....midsummer's eve.....he was the best! We now have two new dawgs........way cool......dawgs rule.

Regards to all.........single moms.........singles dating.....can relate, believe me........getting control of whatever you can in your life, and for me, what always eluded me was controlling my weight...........getting control of that was sooooooooo big for me...........not to say wait until you get control....not saying that, but saying when you do........it will be great!

I am still going by the first Beck book, but feeling my resistance slipping......I am a total sucker to ALL the diet books, so why shoud I resist??? I ask you.

BillBlueEyes
01-13-2009, 05:55 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Another gym session with my trainer. CREDIT moi. He had me do a bunch of one legged stuff because my balance needs work. Well, it does. So the exercises were difficult, but especially because I continue to feel embarrassed when I wobble and tilt. Gotta work on that embarrassment part since it will tend to keep me away from working on the very stuff that I need most.

Substituting oatmeal for my beloved granola on these cold mornings; boy does that stuff stick to the belly for a long time. And not just the belly; at last bite I leap from the table to rinse my bowl in the sink before it hardens into cement, LOL.


maryblu - Thanks for the spinach pesto recipe; raw it is, with "lots" of garlic.

Such a tease, "will "try to remember"..and you remember those lyrics, for sure." I saw Fantasticks Off-Broadway early on during its 17,162 performances.Try to remember the kind of September
When life was slow and oh, so mellow.
Try to remember the kind of September
When grass was green and grain was yellow.
Try to remember the kind of September
When you were a tender and callow fellow.
Try to remember, and if you remember,
Then follow.

Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow,
Follow, follow, follow, follow.
...

Deep in December, it's nice to remember,
Although you know the snow will follow.
Deep in December, it's nice to remember,
Without a hurt the heart is hollow.
...


onebyone - Your salmon muffins look good, particularly when I use the Anne (wndranne) idea to call them meatballs, LOL. Or Robin (RobinW)'s patties. Or, from my childhood, croquettes. You'd think that the Old Bay seasoning would make then tasty - perhaps 2x or 4x the amount is what you're looking for to overcome "bland."

Re: "Any ideas?" - I've moved into a legumes for lunch phase. Pinto beans this week. Red beans with broccoli recently. Legumes fit the bill for tasty, plenty of protein, and easy to fix a big pot on the weekend. Not sure if they count as carbs in the terminology of your plan.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Yay for the first long run of your marathon training. Ouch for cold, but then you marathon types are tough. Neat that you're so diligent getting your recipes to your taste. Your cook, evaluate, adjust style is so like the Cook's Illustrated crowd.

Robin (RobinW) - Second day of Kudos for ignoring the sticky parts on the pan. Interesting though, ignore understates your accomplishment. You wrestled them to the ground and made then surrender under water, LOL.

Thanks for the salmon patties recipe; it might tempt me since I'm still trying to find a way to incorporate cottage cheese into my life. Despite so many glowing recommendations, it remains an alien food to me.


Anne (wndranne) - Congrats on your 5 pound goal. LOL at your objection to onderland. Perhaps you'd accept a transition to wndrland in the best, Walt Whitman sense of wonder.

Re: "Any objectors?" - My take is that flexible response to reality is core to remaining on plan. You did just right; no Cheat Sheet called for. In fact, Kudos for bailing out the situation at all, especially doing so within your calorie plan.


Chris (Anglemomma210) - Yay for sun. And Yay for spinning and taekwondo. You've got some upbeat stuff in your life. Continuing to send supportive thoughts for your DH's situation.

Kim (bennyhannahmama) - Neat that you've got 119 people in your Wellness Challenge - that's enough to keep you on your plan. And Kudos for working to identify the "voices" of the Sabotaging Thoughts so you can figure out responses. Good insight to go to the heart of the matter.

Kay (AgileK9s) - Kudos for marching on to Day 2. On day 14, you'll start your food plan (aka, diet). Yep, you'll have ample opportunity to start losing during the six week program.

Yay for Aussies; our beloved Black and White Aussie was with us for fourteen years. What a wonderful breed. It took her almost a year to stop circling us trying to get us into a tighter herd, LOL. Your five sound like an ample challenge to increase your agility.


Readers - ". . . For example, at some point you will have a thought such as, I don't care ... I know I'm not supposed to have this brownie, but I'm going to have it anyway. You will then pull out a Response Card that you have been reading every day that says:It is true that I don't care at this very moment. But if I eat this unplanned food, I am going to care quite a lot in just a few minutes. I know I will feel really bad if I give in, but I will feel terrific if I resist. I need to go do something else!" The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 21.

davidette
01-13-2009, 08:07 AM
Finally made it to the gym yesterday! :exercise: Starting out slow with a stretch and move class. I love the music and camaraderie of classes. It felt so good to really connect with my body. Before I got there, I kept thinking of the Brain Rules DVD (which is very simplistic). One of the rules is our brains function / learn better with exercise and displayed a drawing of a watering can "fertilizing" a brain. Really proves another of the brain rules: We retain images phenomenally better than text. Maybe this is why the "skinny" suede Levi's on display are so motivating! And the bracelet I wear all the time to remember to give myself credit provides a little jolt of pride every time I notice it. Not that I'm going to stop reading my cards, but maybe I'll illustrate them. Can't hurt!

My friends and i came up with a plan to meet at gym classes during the week. Just knowing someone else is looking for you and will expect an good explanation if you don't show up is enough to get me out the door when I'm wavering. Especially with the weather getting colder. I'm so lucky I have a very friendly Y nearby.

Our lunchtime planning session was also successful in that I only ate half my order and brought the rest home. Even better, usually I would have gobbled that up during the afternoon and still had dinner. Yesterday I actually assessed how my stomach felt and labeled the urge as just a craving. In fact the leftovers (which are delicious) are still in the frig, waiting for a meal when I can really savor and enjoy it. A step in the right direction! :broc:

Bill Just fixed spaghetti squash Sunday - love the stuff. Since I'm the only one to eat it in this house, I'm always looking for ways to use it - tomato sauce is delicious but variety will be nice. I've made the raw spinach pesto before, but with pine nuts (mucho caloric), oil, and cheese, I've always put this in the forbidden foods category. maryblue Thanks for reminding me I can leave out or minimize all those high calorie ingredients. I can't wait to experiment!

Kim Kudos on getting to the wellness challenge. Giving yourself credit is a challenge in itself, but such an esteem booster! I wear the same bracelet every day as a reminder and keep a post-it note nearby I can make checks on when I resist, leave food on the plate etc. When I see all those checkmarks at the end of the day, I'm like a kid with an A+ paper! :cp:

Robin Made a card with What willpower cannot accomplish, water will - great line! I'll be throwing those forbidden pans in the sink straight from the stove! And for me, a good reminder to drink lots of water, especially during meals. I've become aware how often I'm really just thirsty! Also cuts down on the diet drinks, etc., which is a good thing.

kuhljeanie When I read about your 4 mile run in the cold, I feel like such a ninny stalling about driving to a warm gym. I'll think of you when it's in the 20s Friday and I don't want to go out to class. Thanks for the inspiration!

Anne Interesting point about the language we use. I can testify how helpful a certain word / image (entirely unplanned but extremely effective) was in eliminating meat from my diet. I don't want to gross anybody out so I won't get specific, but I have another word/image I'm working to associate with cheese (so good, so fattening, so hard for me to limit, so I'm better off eliminating!). Diet sodas are another weakness of mine, but I'm having a hard time coming up with a word/image for aspartame! Thanks for bringing that out, it's one more strategy to "rewire" my brain.

Heading for the gym, thanks to all my coaches/buddies for keeping me accountable!

RobinW
01-13-2009, 02:14 PM
Creamy celery soup

1 onion, chopped, sautee (in butter or olive oil) for a few minutes. Add the following seasonings..
poultry seasoning
onion powder
garlic powder
pepper
salt
Add to your taste....I like the bottom of the pot to look a bit on the heavily spiced side. Then mix with your onion.

Then add...

1 bunch of celery (chop off the bottom and some of the tops) wash/chop and dump into pot with onion and seasonings
1 knorr chicken bouillon cube
5 cups water
....bring to a boil, then let simmer on low for about 20min (until celery is soft)

Set aside
4 whole eggs and 2 whites ...break into a bowl
4 oz ff cream cheese

Take your soup and put all the celery in a food processor (I dont bother putting the soup base in) Puree the celery with the cream cheese until smooth.

By the ladelful add One ladel at a time to your eggs and stir. Do this about 5 times. If you stick your finger in this mixture it should be on the warm side, but not cooked. That is when you can dump it in with all the soup base....mix. Then add your pureed celery back in and mix.

Put back on the stove for about 10-15 min on low and keep stirring with a whisk. Turn off the stove and let it sit. You will have a rather odd looking soup....but very tastey. :D

bennyhannahmama
01-13-2009, 05:12 PM
Coaches

Yesterday, I woke up at 5 am and did 30 minutes on the elliptical :broc:

I only read my ARC once, I completely forgot to read my ARC for the 2nd time (partial broc only)

I ate slowly and mindfully for some of my meals, but not all (partial broc)

I posted here :broc:

I don't remember giving myself credit.

Jeanie Congrats on the long run, sorry it was so sucky! Keep at it, it will get better :) BTW, too bad we don't live closer to each other, we'd probably make good running partners with our limited height!

Oh and how did you cook the BBQ pork? I was thinking a crockpot might be good.

Anne Congrats on making a good choice when forced off of your original plan. I'm glad to hear you didn't do a Cheat Sheet on it, I think that would have been a bit much :D

Congrats on hitting your goal and a good run!

Mary

I have tried not to let getting in control of my eating, exercising, losing weight, etc. be the be all and end all of my happiness or goals in life. (Does that make any sense?) What I'm trying to say is that I always try not to over-inflate the effect losing weight will have on my life because I think sometimes I have "failed" because as I get closer to my "goals" I find that my life is not as "perfect" as I had imagined (could I use anymore quotation marks?).
So, I try to remind myself that even when I'm at my ideal weight, etc. I will still have days where I don't feel like getting out of bed, when I'm anxious, etc. Just to keep things in perspective. However, it's been hard this time around because the changes in how I feel about myself are so huge! I walk with my head higher, and I just feel more comfortable in my own body...it's wonderful! And I can see how it will effect me once I start to date in real life (as opposed to my cyber boy toys!), I *know* what I deserve and I'm not going to settle for less!
So thanks for your perspective on all of that, it helps.

Bill Kudos for doing things you don't like to do but know you should :D

Davidette

I know what you mean about the camaraderie and music of classes at the gym... that's why I've so fully been enjoying going! Congrats on taking leftovers home and waiting to eat it until you really can enjoy it.

I like your suggestion for giving yourself credit, I might just have to try that!

onebyone
01-13-2009, 08:24 PM
Good Evening Coaches.

I spent the day at school, my regular routine now. 9-5 I am downtown. Bus strike still full-on, no end in sight. Very upsetting at times and I can accept it at other times. I shift between the two. I have class in the morning tomorrow and then nothing afterwards so I'll have several hours to myself and I think I'm going to go wander around the national gallery. That's always good for at least 3 hours and it's all walking so good for the body too.

I've been walking way more than 15 minutes everyday, so I continue to keep up the exercise portion of my plan. Credit moi. I've been taking my lunch with me and eating on time so that's good too.

And so far my classes are okay. we're just getting started so not that much to do yet.

Well I'd better go get a bite to eat. I'll try to check in later or in the morning.

Have a good night!

AnneWonders
01-13-2009, 10:25 PM
Coaches/Buddies I feel awful today. DS, DH, and I all have the cold DS brought home from day care, and I'm fearful this is the beginning of the back-to-back sicknesses we experienced with DD a few years ago. I'm working the CT skills pretty hard, telling myself it isn't so bad, it will be better this time around since the viruses haven't mutated that much in 3 years, but frankly, I'm pretty discouraged right now. Oh Well. Worst case, a couple more tough months and then things even out. It doesn't help that I had 5 1/2 interrupted hours of sleep last night, and I'm also working to remind myself that makes everything seem so much worse.

I stuck to my plan today, but true to form, I had some bad moments in the afternoon with an "I feel lousy" attack. I found out my distraction box is useless when I'm dealing with small children because my hands are literally full even if I could stuff something in my mouth. I'm not sure how to fix that issue, but am open to ideas. Maybe some books to read to them (assuming they are having it)?? But I resisted anyway.

I hope you all will forgive me if I skip personals tonight. I'm going to sketch out my plan for tomorrow and then try to get some sleep. It's DH's night with DS so things should be better in the morning, unless DS is up for hours again tonight. I feel bad that he feels bad, but we'd all do better with some sleep.

One quick thing: my username, wndranne is short for WunderAnne, and came into being when I needed an 8 character handle for something and threw out some vowels. This springs from WunderBeest, which was the collective nickname for the mass of dogs that once lived with us, as I was the keeper of the WunderBeest. [WunderBeest was always singular, but always carried an "N-legged" modifier where N = 4*n, and n was the number of dogs we had at the time, as in 8-legged WunderBeest.] I always figured the wunder part was good for "Wow, losing that weight and keeping it off was a wonder," as well as "wonder what in the bejebus she's thinking." I liked the contradictions and rich history and kept it. Anyway, I suppose my next goal puts me in wndrland. I can live with that.

Anne

lilyyoung
01-13-2009, 11:35 PM
kim, I relate to your divorce issues. I left my husband 11 years ago. I didn't have the self-esteem to handle it well. It sounds like you are doing really well. Beck is a great way to build self-esteem. I lost weight at the time, but it wasn't for for me, it was for a man so I ended up gaining a lot of it back. But not all!

I haven't been reading the posts for a few days, but I came back and read a couple of days posts. This is an impressive group. I've been dealing with finding out today that I have osteopenia. The people in the doctor's office got me really upset. The medical assistant, not the doctor, got on the phone. She said she had the results, and I have "nothing to worry about." When I asked what she meant, she said I have osteopenia. I asked to talk to the doctor and she didn't get him on the phone for me. She passed on his advice--don't fracture anything and don't fall down. I was furious. Anyway I am going to see him Thursday, and will ask about diet, exercise and medications for this illness. My mother had really bad osteoporosis. She lived until 85 but was all bent over, and I'm very afraid of it happening to me. Thanks for letting me vent. As far as the plan goes, I am on plan for parts of days, and I try to give myself credit for that. I made turkey meatloaf and mashed potatoes, had it for dinner one night, made it into spaghetti and meat sauce the next night and begged DBF to finish it tonight! Kudos, moi. I will try to keep up more!

davidette
01-14-2009, 06:27 AM
Anne I am so impressed by those of you dealing with small children and still finding time and energy to follow the program. My children are 19 and 22, away at school, and often I get painfully nostalgic remembering when they were little and so adorable. We always forget the frustrating times! The best I could manage was not eating McDonald burgers and fries along with them. Kudos for all your efforts and especially recognizing the best thing you can for everyone, yourself included, is get some sleep!

lily My mother has severe osteoporosis also. Fortunately she was diagnosed early (at least 30 years ago) and has been under treatment all that time. At 96 she has only a very minimal "dowager's hump". I hope that allays your fears somewhat. Also she was on one medication that actually increased her bone density, at 92! That said, you should certainly take it seriously and push your doctor for more information ("don't worry, don't fall, don't fracture anything" is ridiculous -- who sets out to do any of those things?)

Went to spin class and yoga yesterday. :yay: I'm satisfyingly sore today. Stretch and move class this morning; I probably wouldn't go on my own today but I feel committed to my meet my friends there. It's an easy class so I'll actually be less sore when I finish. The yoga instructor closed class with a mantra "The way you look at things affects the way they look". This was so on track with some of things we have been discussing it was almost spooky!

Wishing everyone a healthy happy Wednesday!

BillBlueEyes
01-14-2009, 06:33 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Da good: at a morning meeting high quality dark chocolates were passed around. Now this is a meeting where candy is often available, but easier to ignore since it's Halloween handout quality. But this was good stuff. I had the thought that since I'm only maintaining I can take one. Then I thought about taking two. Then I had the slippery slope image and paused. I'd had my morning snack about an hour before; lunch was coming in about an hour. My mind snapped back and I passed. I don't need candy in the morning. It will only make me want more candy. CREDIT moi.

Da bad: bought TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein) at Whole Foods to try for the first time. CREDIT moi for that. Then I waddled through the offered samples taking every one. Perhaps the $17/pound cheese fit my "rare or unusual" rule that allows samples. Perhaps, but not really. But the muffin samples certainly didn't. It really annoys me that my brain turns off when facing samples at Whole Foods. Oh Well. Anybody have suggestions?


onebyone - Ouch that the transportation strike continues; Kudos for remaining sane while working around it. When I read, "I think I'm going to go wander around the national gallery.", all I could think of was, "But pleeeeeeeezzzze don't throw me in the brier patch."

Robin (RobinW) - Thanks for the cream of celery soup recipe. I especially like the Julia-Child-like part, "If you stick your finger in this mixture it should be on the warm side...".

Third (and final) Kudos for not eating those sticky parts from the pan. Clearly I'm moved by an act that I've yet to take. I'm burning it into my brain to remember next time I approach the stove and hear sticky parts calling my name.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for family colds. LOL at the thought that Beck didn't have two children in her hands when she invented the physical distraction box. Love your playful use of "wonder;" WunderBeest is a hoot. Sending virtual chicken soup for the bunch of you. (Can DS eat that or do I need to puree his?)

Kim (bennyhannahmama) - I do like your (partial broc) concept. It emphasizes acceptance to me.

davidette - Kudos for setting up that gym group - such good Beck thinking. And Kudos for bringing home half your lunch. I especially love restaurant left overs when they carry the taint of having made a wise eating choice.

On the spaghetti squash thread, a poster just recommended using it in place of potatoes in hash browns. Now that sounds good.


Lily (lilyyoung) - Ouch for the diagnosis; Double Ouch for the crude delivery. After you talk to your doctor, you might try to talk to a nutritionist to get fresh ideas for your diet mods. For example, my DW takes a daily dark chocolate laced with her calcium supplement (it reminds me of giving our dog her pill covered in peanut butter, LOL); that works for her because she never forgets to take her dark chocolate.

Readers - "sabotaging thought:This is too much work; I don't feel like learning all of these skills. I don't feel like following my eating plan.Many dieters have a rebellious side that can seriously impede their ability to lose weight permanently. ... " The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 21.

BillBlueEyes
01-14-2009, 06:37 AM
Waving at davidette who posted while I was typing.

lilyyoung
01-14-2009, 09:18 AM
thanks for the support on the osteopenia, Bill and davidette! Davidette, you are so fortunate to have your mom still with you! I lost my mom in 2004; it was the hardest thing I'd ever experienced.

kuhljeanie
01-14-2009, 10:47 AM
happy wednesday all! thanks for the kudos on my stinky training run. :) this week will be better - we'll be in cincinnati working on the old house (nope, still haven't listed it yet. arg.) and i cleared it with DH that i can go to my old, beloved track for my 5-miler while he works on the kitchen floor.

anne, i'm doing my own training program - cobbled it together from about 4 others i looked at. the flying pig is the first sunday in may - 16 weeks from now (but who's counting?) had a phenomenal speed run yesterday - 11:39 min mile! huzzah! for me, this is beyond speedy. it was miserable while i was doing it, but i feel good now. :) so sorry everyone's sick! that sucks.

bill, is there a day when there are fewer samples out at whole foods? another option is to find somewhere else to shop. don't know what your other choices are...might be helpful. dunno!

hi kim! wish we did live closer...it would be fun to have a running buddy!

lily, cripes! what a terrible bedside manner. i'm betting there are all kinds of things that are more helpful than "not falling". can't remember the last time i thought to myself, gee, i should fall and try and break something. geesh!

sorry i can't get to everyone - have a Thing that came up at work that needs attending to this week (and possibly next.) will be thinking of you!

RobinW
01-14-2009, 11:22 AM
Good Morning

Bill~ Im curious, what is textured vegetable protein?? I think I need to google that one :lol: BIG Kudos for passing up the morning chocolate!! I was reading that and thinking, oh how nice that would have been with the coffee they probably were serving too! Good going on the pass!! As for the sample suggestions, I wont be much help. I am allergic to nuts, and most of that stuff has nuts in it or the person handing it out doesnt know if there are nuts in it...so I pass. OH Wait!!!! Your allergic to being fat!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha! There ya go! Eating those things will create white globular masses under your skin in very yucky places, therefore you shouldnt eat them :D Think it'll work? :lol:

Anne~ I love the story behind your name! Healing and warm thoughts for your little ones and everyone else home with the cold. Get better soon.

onebyone~ Kudos for getting your exercise in and eating your lunches to plan :cb:

davidette~ Big Kudos for getting to a yoga and spin class!! Very cool!

:wave: to everyone Ive missed.

Things are going good here, food is op, exercise is about 75% which I am taking as good. Feeling just a bit blah lately....Ive had enough of winter and need the sunshine!

I am in full swing planning. We are putting together a small business expo and networking event for the end of march. BUT!!! I have been fighting with myself over setting an unreasonable goal by then. (because its what I do) Then Ive set myself up for a failure. Let's have your imput.....the event is March 26th......I would love to loose 40lbs by then! HA! Silly, I know but that is how my brain is working. So....how does 20lbs sound? Reasonable?

I need more coffee :coffee:
Have a great day everyone!

RobinW
01-14-2009, 12:40 PM
Bill~ I just finished looking up TVP....and it looks pretty cool. Now what I want to know is what flavours do you buy and how do you eat it? I could only find the veggie stuff. I didnt see any sausage or beef flavoured stuff online. Which I thought would be a great substitute in my nacho soup!! Anyway I love the idea of this stuff, and Im going to go out and see if I can find it locally. Our healthfood stores aren't that great around here.

AnneWonders
01-14-2009, 10:02 PM
Coaches/Buddies We're all still sick and tired here. Very stressful work meeting coming up tomorrow, and it's my night to deal with DS. Both DH and I were up last night. I might be functional. I hope. Oh Well.

I was mostly on plan today. We did a pick-up dinner again, and I got a few minutes of stress-free playing with the children instead of trying to slap something together. Yes, there was a plan, but I didn't have the time or energy to execute it. I am going to do a Cheat Sheet tonight to see if I can figure out a way around. Perhaps making good take out choices is good enough, and I should cut myself some slack.

I have to figure out if I'm going to bring food tomorrow or just make the best of the meeting fare. I may bring some healthy snacks and muddle through with lunch as a compromise. I know there will be a big salad there.

Lily Your doc sounds like a piece of work! Hope you get what you need tomorrow, and please demand it if you don't. Geez. I'm so sorry about losing your mother.

davidette I love that "good sore" feeling. Congrats for achieving it.

Bill Good for you on passing up the chocolate and ouch on the samples. What did the Costco person say, not like it's real food anyway. Can you make a grocery store response card about samples and read it before you shop? Maybe visualize how many filthy hands have been on the stuff and how sick you can get??

Jean You do five miles on a track! Wow. Here's hoping you bust out of that comfort zone and into something more interesting! Hope your Thing gets resolved.

RobinW Thank you thank you thank you for suggesting the "allergy" to Bill. I got to peek in here this morning, and then donuts showed up at work. I developed an allergy, claiming they made me break out in fat, and well, they just sort of lost their draw to me. I'd suggest a 5 lb goal for each month, with a stretch goal of 7.5 or 10 (depending on how you lose). That'd get you 10-20 lbs by your expo. That way you can be happy with 10 lbs, but still have a "stretch goal" for more, so you don't slack when you made it.

Off for a minimal amount of planning, absolutely no housekeeping, and then perhaps some sleep.

Anne

lilyyoung
01-14-2009, 11:15 PM
thanks anne and kuhljeanie and everybody. DBF is sleeping on the sofa. I was on plan mostly today but had a big glass of milk tonight, which I never do, because I was obsessing about the osteopenia. (2 extra points.) You think I'd do some exercise...well, I hope to make more of a commitment after the doctor's appt. tomorrow. Robin, I think trying to lose 20 lbs by the end of March is too much pressure. A pound or pound and a half a week is a reasonable expectation. Of course, it depends on the diet, and the exercise (and the phase of the moon.) Sending you support in your effort. :) Trying to resist eating more now since I feel at loose ends...

landlady6
01-15-2009, 12:21 AM
HI coaches, I have been reading but don't have much to say..just flying by. I am doing mediocre on my plan. BUT kudos to me for not going to that habitual all or nothing thinking. I am not OFF plan...I am tired and going to bed early. Beck would say excuse...maybe it is-BUT it is better than eating my way through whatever it is. I seriously need to look into getting a light box for the winter. using the wii but not deep tissueish type working out... just keeping my head above for now and trying not to beat myself up about it. Off to read my cards before going to sleep. Goodnight Beckies!

maryblu
01-15-2009, 12:22 AM
lol, wndranne,

You are on a roll. The second helpful response/strategy this week!!


"Maybe visualize how many filthy hands have been on the stuff and how sick you can get??"

You did it, you really did. THAT will work for resisting those free grocery samples. I am hereby cured.

And to think I even sucker for the ones they put out under the little plastic cap and let customers put their own grubby paws in there and help themselves. It is a wonder I have lived this long!

BillBlueEyes
01-15-2009, 06:21 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did well with one-plate at a pot luck last night. CREDIT moi. Also had a (planned) dessert - only slightly larger than planned. Oh Well. Actually, not too bad. It's helpful to be reminded by Heidi (landlady6) that's it's not all or nothing.

Did some calculations: eating one ounce of beef fat puts on 0.85 ounces of body fat; eating one ounce of olive oil puts on 1.15 ounces of body fat. That's pretty direct. It's easy for me to have a visual image of just pasting the stuff on my stomach - ugh!!!


maryblue - So glad that you're "cured" of free-grocery-store-sample-itis, LOL. Just seeing your avatar reminds me that Spring is coming. Thinking about seeds is an antidote to this cold spell.

Heidi (landlady6) - Big Kudos for avoiding the "all or nothing" Sabotaging Thought and for not beating yourself up. My take is that's a super positive step.

onebyone - Waving. Hope you found your way out of the National Gallery.

Robin (RobinW) - Congrats on being engrossed in setting up your small business expo and networking event for March 26 - about ten weeks from now. Re setting a weight loss goal for then: yep, 40 pounds is unrealistic; 20 pounds (2 pounds per week) is physically plausible, but might be a stretch with the potential for emotional setback just when you need to be in contact with your confident self for the event. Perhaps you could let your body handle the weight part and you could set a goal such as, 90% on-plan eating and 90% on-plan exercise for the ten weeks, despite the time crunch of preparing for the event.

Thanks for the "...allergic to being fat!!!!!!!!!!!!" That's a keeper. I bought the plain TVP; I'll let you know how it turns out. I buy into the notion that it's easier to add my own flavoring (say, from Penzeys) than to find a brand whose flavoring matches my expectations.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Good luck working on the old house as well as getting to run on your old beloved five mile track. Thanks for the reminder that I can choose another place to shop if I want to take an active part in avoiding food samples at Whole Foods. That's a clue to me that I'm not as innocent a victim of those samples as I portray.

Anne (wndranne) - Ouch that tired and sick continues. Good luck remembering that "This, too, shall pass." My memory is that one of the worst parts of young kids was losing the feeling that some unpleasant situation would ever end.

Thanks for the tip to make a Response Card for grocery store samples. Gotta love your "how many filthy hands have been on the stuff." Samples are a way to bring back all the viral benefits of having a kid in nursery school. Don't need that again.


davidette - Spin and yoga, stretch and move. Yay for moving and moving. Just loving reading that your setup of meeting friends is doing just what you wanted for getting you there. Kudos for such a prime Beck like strategy. And I also like your yoga teacher's mantra, "The way you look at things affects the way they look."

Lily (lilyyoung) - My sympathies for losing your mom some four years ago. Understand that it's a big loss. Good luck at your doctor's appointment today. Sending supportive thoughts that you get the kind of warm support that allows you to make the modifications in your diet and/or life that are useful.

I was thinking about "avoid falling." A positive view of that does have potential for finding life changes. For example, there are lists of changes to the living situation for older people to help them avoid falls. One is to minimize throw rugs. Another is to encourage them to have one hand on the newell post when starting up and leaving a set of stairs. There are many, once one gets over the hangup that they're for old people. We have friends who added handrails in the bathroom when they remodeled because "old age is gonna come and we don't want to renovate again."

LOL at your "... and the phase of the moon."


Readers - "... If they leave this kind of sabotaging thought unchallenged, they are certain to fail in their long-term weight-loss efforts. ... " The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 21.

kuhljeanie
01-15-2009, 10:51 AM
morning my coaches!

had a flattering thing happen yesterday. a number of people at work have commented on my weight loss (which i LOVE. never understood how it makes some uncomfortable, but different folks, different strokes.) anyway. one of the guys asked if i would be willing to talk to his wife, who is struggling with her weight loss, and who also got a bodybugg on my strong recommendation. she called last night and we spent some time on the phone talking through her program. i hope it helps her - how gratifying to be able to help someone else do this!

and MAN, is it cold today, or what? glad i'm on a treadmill in a nice cozy gym instead of outside. it should be warmer by sunday.

heidi, i agree with bill. mediocrity as an option is really a HUGE step forward if you've spent your life getting tripped up on all-or-nothing thinking! it'll allow you to pick yourself up so much quicker when you fall a little, which is insanely important. i say, KUDOS for mediocrity! :) also agree with bill on post to robin to focus goals on what's under your control. hear hear. basically, what bill said, ditto. :) and lily, sounds like you're making the commitment NOW to exercise - you're just not starting the actual exercise until after your appt with your doc, right? :)

shout out to onebyone! can't imagine how frigid it must be even further north.

off to the gym...need the warmth and the shot of happy brain!

RobinW
01-15-2009, 03:43 PM
Ive come here about 7x today to try and post. Here I am again, with cold coffee :sorry: Oh well!

Just a quickie! I want to thank everyone for their opinions. Bill...letting my body handle the weightloss is such a foreign idea to me!! I dont know if Im ready to give that up yet (if I even ever had control over it) I like the 90% on plan goal tho!

....phases of the moon ...how right you are lily!!

This is why I needed some imput into this. My vision is very distorted from my history and what I truly want. But what I can achieve realistically in that time frame is something else. I like Anne's numbers and I think I can do that.

So my goal.......stay op at least 90% of the time, get down a min of 10lbs.

..........K, I'll be back later tonight email is pinging me!

angelmomma210
01-15-2009, 07:49 PM
Just a quickie. Think that the meds are giving me a headache..think that it is just my body trying to get used to it. Also my eyes were really bothering me...found out that it can cause dry eye so got my eye drops out. They are the better ones so that it really helped. Stayed home today because of the headache..did not feel like listening to the students on the bus. Feeling a little better now. Will go back tomorrow.

Love the little reminders about the how many hand have touched it and the fat allergy. LOL . Gonna use those.

AnneWonders
01-15-2009, 11:02 PM
Coaches/Buddies I think we are all on the mend. I could really do with one more decent night's sleep. But the work madness is over, and the kids are off to day care tomorrow so I can get some errands and chores done and hopefully relax a bit. Food was on plan today, even with lots of meeting food around.

I made myself a new goal Response Card last night, and took my old one, dated it, and moved it to my Memory Box. I liked that idea a lot. I also did some thinking and made a list of reasons it is OK to deviate from plan. Note that after Tuesday this list does in fact contain train wrecks, literally, LOL. Now I don't have to wonder if I'm making excuses. "Legitimate" reasons are spelled out. I'm sure I'll run into ambiguous situations from time to time, or have to add something new to the list, but now I don't have to wonder, or feel bad about it. I also have a list of what types of changes or substitutions are legitimate and/or preferred.

I'm going to try to run tomorrow. I think with a touch of Sudaphed, I'll be functional.

I sort of hesitate to mention it, but weight is still just falling off, and my clothes are noticeably smaller in the last couple weeks. I know I'm probably at the best place (postpartum, post nursing) to lose weight, and I'm going to ride this wave as long as I can!

Lily I think drinking milk is a normal reaction to your news, and you could add it to your plan. I added more milk to mine when I decided to sneak in some more protein, although I tend to add it in latte form, LOL!

Heidi I don't know what mediocre really means for you, but good enough is good enough. Sounds like you are doing a fine job from here. Make some changes, absorb them, make a few more, and absorb them! Keep posting. Keep reading your RCs!

maryblu Glad my late up-close-and-personal encounters of the germy kind have helped you with the samples, LOL!

Bill You can't think I'm going to let you get away with posting some calculation results without demanding to see your sources, especially if one ounce of olive oil results in 1.15 oz of body fat! Not buying it. Sources please! Besides, this is only true if you don't use it.

Nice job on the potluck BTW.

Jean Woo hoo! Thin and smart! Yes!! Keep warm.

RobinW I think it really does help to have outside eyes on a problem too. The reality check is a good good thing! Condolences on the cold coffee. :(

Chris Hope your head feels better soon. LOL, I made Response Cards with those things on them too! I flip through them every night before I go to sleep, like I'm studying for an exam or something. Reminds me of my prelims in grad school!

:wave: to onebyone, thinkerbell, and other missing/lurking friends!

Anne

landlady6
01-16-2009, 12:44 AM
Hi coaches,
Thanks for your words of encouragement-you all are really the best!

maryblu: you have a great way with words-the visual of everyone's grubby paw residual is disgusting!!! We may just put those sample giver outers out of business.... THANKS for the disgusting visual-I definitely benefit from that!

BBE: Did I miss a previous conversation about the beef fat and olive oil calculations? How can it be that eating the beef fat puts less blubber on? I thought that fat was fat was fat????

kuhljeanie: good for you on enjoying the compliments. I am one of those that is uncomfortable with it. Probalby because I have gone up and down so when I hear the good stuff, I read into it that I didn't look "great" before (even though I didn't...) AND it can also be hard for me to not hear the compliments or people noticing after I have maintained for any amount of time since they just get used to seeing me that way. This last weight loss though< i tried to keep my head about me and let it in. I feel better when I lose weight so of course I will look better..whether it is the weight or the sparkle in my eye... way to let in the good stuff!

RobinW: your new goal sounds doable. It leaves room for the "oopsies"... You can do this! (I have to remind myself as much as I remind others...)


Angelmomma: good for you to take time away from work to rest up. It is hard to work with groups of kids when you don't feel well.

wndranne: curious since I am not as far as you in the new book...is the "cheat sheet" concept from Beck or is that your creation? So..part of your plan is that you go off plan? Is it better to state that or to get rid of having to fill out a form if you deviate? We will all deviate at times... just brainstorming and learning..whatever it takes to feel that you have permission..you have motivated me to officially make my "memory box". I have the box, I just need to label it and use it!!! Oh yeah, and create some memories for it!!! :) Glad you are all on the mend...hope you get a good night's rest tonight!

BillBlueEyes
01-16-2009, 06:15 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Did a sub-mediocre gym session. Oh Well. My elbow has been hurting for several weeks and I can't do weights or pull downs or pushups or pullups or anything fun. But I did my despised lunges. CREDIT moi. Now I've got to overcome that standard male resistance to seeing a doctor and find out why this thing doesn't just go away by itself, like all body malfunctions are supposed to do.

RE calculations: OK, need sources for published numbers; will gather later.


maryblue - Waving. Suspecting that you're now frozen in place until Spring.

Heidi (landlady6) - Yay for staying on board. Nope, the fat calculations were out of the blue, and require some justification; so will provide that.

onebyone - Waving. Sticking to my image that you're still happily wandering the National Gallery.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for looking past "vision is very distorted from my history" (neat phrase). And Kudos for making a plan. Bon Voyage.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Now that is a flattering experience - being asked to help someone's wife. Yay for NSVs. Yay for the obvious weight loss that triggered it. And Yay for the "the shot of happy brain," LOL.

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats that the weight "keeps falling off." Having a visual of you riding the waves from the movie Endless Summer. Keep on keeping on. Kudos for tending the mechanics of the program; you are definitely an inspiration.

Chris (angelmomma210) - Ouch for the headache. Yay for good eye drops and Yay for taking care of yourself.

Readers - "... They may be able to lose some weight, but they won't be able to keep it off. ... " The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 21.

lilyyoung
01-16-2009, 07:51 AM
I love some of the ideas I've been reading. I had the thought of giving up on my desire to lose weight yesterday. I've been worried that dieting might create bone loss...the doctor was ok but kind of rushed me through my visit. I have an appointment with a physiatrist to get proper exercises. I have to do some blood and urine tests. (He didn't tell me if i should fast beforehand, take the supplements that day, or anything.) He advised 600 mg Calcium and 400 mg vitamin D 2x a day. He didn't think magnesium was important, but I do, from what I've been reading. It's all very confusing. I didn't have a chance to ask about diet, but I've been googling calcium-rich foods. It's not just dairy. I will try to (at least) maintain for now, since I have been gaining instead of losing for a few days. I was up to 160 yesterday and didn't do the scale yet today. I have to remember that my highest weight was 182 some years ago (partially from medications) and that throwing in the towel and gaining everything back is not a good option. And that whether I am losing or maintaining, I will have to use Beck-like strategies for the rest of my life to do either one. Whether I want to call it an eating disorder or just "stinkin thinkin" when I am not "on a diet" I find all kinds of reasons to eat muffins, coffee cake, french fries, chocolate....
I am proud of all of you exercising like mad while i try to convince myself daily that walking to Starbucks to get an extra cup of coffee is exercise!!
Love to all--have a great day--Lily

davidette
01-16-2009, 07:53 AM
Wow, yesterday was my first day making a food plan and following it (per new Beck book). I'm used to counting calories as I go along. This was harder than I thought! I kept wanting something different. I'm giving myself a week to practice before actually adding the diet next week. I can see I need it! If I can't follow a plan with my "own" food, how can I ever expect to do so on "diet" food?

On track with the exercise group plan; already sleeping better and waking more refreshed. :yay:

Bill I've used the TVP (plain) very successfully in my regular chili recipe, just replaced ground beef with TVP. The meat-eaters did notice, but not until they'd eaten most of it!

Kuhljeanie Thanks for the shot of happy brain mantra; using it as I wince at going to water exercise class this morning. The water is always so cold to me. I'm trying to focus on all those calories I'll burn trying to stay warm.

Going to go pack my gym bag before I chicken out!

helping rachel
01-16-2009, 09:01 AM
Good morning! I would like to join this thread and was wondering if there are steps to follow to get connected and finding support. I am just finishing reading the book and I would love to connect for supoort and sharing.

Thanks,
Rachel

RobinW
01-16-2009, 11:38 AM
Good Morning

:welcome3: Rachel!! You have found a great place for support!!

davidette~ OH BIG Kudos for getting into the water this morning!! I couldnt possibly even think about it with the temperatures what they are today. Kudos for getting thru your first "planned" eating day!!

lily~ you are sounding quite blue. :hug: I intensely dislike the feeling of giving in myself. If you keep coming here posting and reading, hopefully it will pull back to wanting to take care of yourself. Dieting will not decrease your bone density if do it right. You can also start strength training which is also very good for building and protecting your bones.

Bill~ Kudos for you lunges!! Ouch for your hurting elbow :( Hopefully it is something simple!

landlady~ Thanks so much :hug:

Anne~ I love reading how you are working the program, it is reminding me to finish reading the new book. Kudos for the weight falling off!! :cb: :cb:

onebyone~ :wave:

Im a little more organized today. Hot coffee :D and posting ....its a good combo!

Eating is right on, exercise is good. I walked the big mall last night instead of the treadmill. Had a few issues with wanting "goodies" yesterday. Strange as it is, dill pickles seem to knock those wantings out of my brain. Im thinking its the strong flavour. So I have been making a habit of bringing them to work everyday. Hey, what ever works :lol:

I seem to have Bill's words stuck with me....."let my body handle the weight part" It is still for foreign for me. But it may be sinking in.

Follow the plan
Get your exercise in
.......and my body will expell the weight as it needs to. hmmmm

Big kudos for a non-diet event!! I made a fundraiser order form in excel yesterday!!! :dance: ......and it looks good too!! :lol: it only too me 2.5 hrs too! :lol:

For a diet event kudos, my favourite yellow polar fleece sweater fits again :D

Have a great day everyone!

AnneWonders
01-16-2009, 12:05 PM
Coaches/Buddies The kids are at school, I have the day off, and I've gotten almost caught up on all the household chores that have accumulated over the week. DH helped too. On plan today so far, but considering that's just breakfast, I'll try to check in tonight. Weight down just another few tenths today. I need to pick a reward for my next 5 lb goal. I'll think about that today.

Heidi The Cheat Sheet is a CBDL concept, p. 109 in the "Get Back on Track" Section. It is basically a tool for problem-solving why you go off plan, and try to think of things that can help prevent it next time, whether that's better planning or prep, carrying your planned food with you, managing hunger or cravings better, reading cards, or whatever. It is a useful tool, and seems to take the place of the whole process of the Seven Question technique from BDS. There are always unexpected events that come up in life, and I find I get caught in the ambiguity of "Did I try hard enough?" If I write exceptions down, I don't have to wonder--dealing with a sick child is a legitimate reason to modify a plan (within reason), while having surprise cheesecake at work is not.

Bill Ouch on the elbow. I would suggest that if you worked out while injured, a sub-mediocre workout is probably more than sufficient until you can figure out appropriate modifications (or heal up). Re: sticking to the program, I'm a touch on the obsessive side. If it's working for me, I'm doing it!

Lily Good nutrition and weight bearing exercise will help to improve your bone density! Keep it up. You now have another reason to continue good habits, and checking in here daily will help keep your focus.

davidette I used to just add up the calories through the day too, and as long as I was in the habit of making good choices it worked out. I figure the planning is getting me back in that good habit. I'm actually liking the lower amount of stress on food decisions (trade off now for later and such) by having it written down in advance. It took a while though, and I struggled with the planning (you can see that in the Nov and Dec Beck threads).

Rachel :welcome: You've taken the steps! Just post here what you need to: questions, requests for support or ideas, progress reports, or anything.

RobinW You are discovering that you can only control your behavior and let your body handle the weight loss! That is really good because now you can focus on what is in your control, and kind of step back from what you can't.

I'll try to check in quickly tonight. Off to get my hair cut and dyed, and run some errands.

Anne

AnneWonders
01-16-2009, 10:00 PM
Coaches/Buddies On plan today. Got my errands done. DS had another round of shots. I'm pretty tired, so I'm off for my final snack of the day and then to get some sleep!

Anne

BillBlueEyes
01-17-2009, 05:49 AM
:welcome: Rachel (helping rachel) :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Buddy / Diet Coach Group.

And, in honor of your first post on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about the Beck book that you just finished?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

BillBlueEyes
01-17-2009, 07:18 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Thanks for the encouragement for my elbow. I took the big step; finally figured out that the best way to get my doctor to look at it was to make an appointment. Did that (for next Wednesday). CREDIT moi. I'm never embarrassed telling the receptionist the reason for an appointment even if its intimate male plumbing issues. But felt a bit sheepish giving, "elbow hurts." Felt like a kid asking for a kiss to make it all well again.

RE Calculations for weight gain from eating fat:
9 Calories per gram
28.35 grams per ounce
16 ounces per pound
3500 Calories consumed to add a pound of body fat
so, per 1.17 = (9 * 28.35 * 16 / 3500)

1.17 pounds of body fat added per pound of dietary fat consumed!!!

Hard to believe we gain 17% MORE body fat weight than the weight of dietary fat consumed. Three cheers for our efficient body. (Anne, will you check that derivation; the results aren't intuitive to me.)

By-the-by: I just demonstrated to myself that BACKSPACE is an efficient one-click way to make it appear that a posting has disappeared. But SHIFT-BACKSPACE just as efficiently brings it back.


Robin (RobinW) - Yay for fleece sweaters; Yay for yellow polar fleece sweaters; and Biggest Yay for "favourite yellow polar fleece sweater" that fits again.

Congrats on excelling at using that Microsoft Office spreadsheet program to make a fundraiser order form. My experience is that subsequent such endeavors (endeavours?) are always easier.

Kudos for on-plan. And thanks for the dill pickle tip; gotta try that.


Anne (wndranne) - Sympathy to DS for a round of shots; it's tough being a little guy. Kudos for a day on plan.

Neat that you're writing down the exceptions for going off-plan. Yep, I can see that a sick child is different than a cheesecake surprise. You remind me that I did that in detail for Whole Foods samples. Rare and unusual foods YES, normal foods NO. My brain seems able to forget that's I've already made those choices.


Lily (lilyyoung) - Kudos for continuing to post here; it's a great way to keep the focus on your need for a plan. And Kudos for maintaining a big chunk of weight loss from your high weight.

You have an obligation to yourself, not just a right, to know the expectations for your tests. A quick call to the doctor's office will clarify that. You will get the peace of mind you need knowing you are doing the right thing. They won't think it's a bother.

You're right to work on changes to your diet. Yep, I've also been surprised to find so much calcium outside of dairy: salmon, dark greens, tofu, even almonds. Happily for me, they're all on my favorite foods lists. Once you've adjusted your eating plan, it's worth running a week's menu through one of the calculators like fitday to see your total calcium and total vitamin D including your supplements. Then you can take those numbers to your nutritionist to make sure that you have enough but not too much.

Great Beck style to recognize that the food doesn't just get eaten, per your "I find all kinds of reasons to eat ... ." Yep, the Beck strategies are the best for identifying those reasons as Sabotaging Thoughts and devising Helpful Responses to squash them. You are so headed in the right direction.


davidette - Kudos for making and following your new diet plan. Yep, first day is hard; it gets easier. The breakthrough comes as you feel the relief in not having to make food choices because you already made them yesterday. And it's not a great temptation to rebel since they're your choices. There's plenty of room to start shifting your own recipes into the Beck plan after a period of following the one in the book. The magic isn't in the specifics of the book's plan, the magic is in following a plan.

Thanks for the encouragement about TVP; LOL that your meat-eaters didn't notice right away.


Rachel (helping rachel) - For "finding support," you've just done it by posting here. Well done. Glad you found us. You can start posting immediately after signing up as you just demonstrated. You can get a neat signature thingy after something like 30 posts in 30 days (rules only to protect the site from the robot spammers).

Which of the two Beck books did you just finish?


Readers - "... The skills in this program are essential - not optional- for permanent weight loss." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 21.

maryblu
01-17-2009, 12:04 PM
Uh, BillBE, I was told there'd be no math. ... *ahem

Don't worry, Rachel, it doesn't usually get this deep on the Beck thread. Well, it does, but it is ususally deep of a different sort....


Again, as in almost daily, I appreciate the rigidity, the certainty of the Beck method.....no room for misinterpretation here--

"The skills in this program are essential - not optional- for permanent weight loss".

The one essential part of the Beck plan that seems to be the hardest for us to do is to find a real live coach. I will argue 'til the cows come home that what we have here is at least as good, but probably better. Everyone here is well-schooled on Beck methodology, and an appropriate, helpful coach. Now I *get that part of having a live coach is to have someone to whom you are accountable, but, still, I love this approach.

Have a great day, Beckies, best to all.

RobinW
01-17-2009, 02:23 PM
Im sitting on the couch (making a quick post to check in) wrapped in my blanket, hot coffee and a chick flik (the women) just starting :D :D :D .....and Im all alone!!! :lol: Life is good :hug:

Im op all the way.....I'll check back in tonight. Have a great weekend everyone.

onebyone
01-17-2009, 06:50 PM
Hi Coaches.

I'm feeling really down today. I have to change my foodplan. I can't follow the one I am on. I can't handle the cycles of the carb cycling program so I need to make the switch to my second plan: you on a diet. But now I find myself feeling frustrated and confused and afraid that nothing will work for me and I can't do it and all those things that flood over me when I am feeling "less than" and I am hearing myself say that the you on a diet plan is "not good enough and since Dr. Beck now advocates a diet plan in her new book I should do that diet and I can't really afford the book but I could get it and just forget about the $ cause afterall aren't I worth it and and and...." Like her plan is magic or something....

I think there's a few things up with me. That f&^%)@$g bus strike is so under my skin. OMG I cannnot even tell you. I think it was the feeling of hope I had that they were going to solve it. The union said they'd go to binding arbitration and go back to work immediately and lay the thorny scheduling issue aside if the city agreed. And the city met until 1am last night and rejected the union proposal and countered with one of theirs with 3 criteria to be accepted...blahblahblah. And okay, I was still hopeful when they did that as it shows at least they are working on things but then I heard the head of transit operations say it would be THREE MONTHS before transit service is back to where it was Dec 3rd when this whole thing started as now the buses are about to have their safety certification expire(?) so not only do they need a week to get the buses in working order as they haven't run in 40 days of cold, but they have to be brought up to snuff to pass provincial guidlelines. You'd think public conveyances would be up to snuff but apparently not. So. I am so depressed by all this. I used to suffer with anxiety, big anxiety, and I felt it creep back into my life on my last car ride hiome from school this week. Of course the fact that Val's car window was frozen open after she paid for the parking at the lot machine, and it only inched up after about a half hour and the car door was frozen closed the day before... it just feels too much today. I think I am slightly hormonal as well...all puffy. And I went on a small sugar binge Wed night. Small compared to before but I let sugar back in. I have banished the fake sugar so, credit for that. I do walk every day so credit for that and I am signed up for tai chi now, credit there too. I skipped the community gardening meeting. I just couldn't hand around for 5 hours and then go to the meeting and go home with a stranger.

I just wanted to go home ASAP.

On top of this I am at a loss as to what to paint in my advanced studio class. I am supposed to already know but I don't. I can't believe I feel so crappy.

Thanks for listening coaches. Send happy thoughts of bus strike settlement to the city of Ottawa will ya? Thanks again.

kuhljeanie
01-17-2009, 09:28 PM
onebyone, just sending a BIG HUG to you!!! i've been feeling down lately too, i just put it down to being overtired and it's still january and miserably cold for everyone. shake off the bad feelings about the diet. so NOT worth wasting the energy! of course you can do this - i'm guessing/hoping by the time you read this you'll already feel better.

this really is a quickie - it's date night and we're both doing non-date night stuff. i'm taking a break from sealing baggies of jambalaya and cream of broccoli soup. bbq pork is still cooking in the crockpot. so far, so good. DH loved the jambalaya.

bill, i'm going to challenge your math - did you account for the thermogenic effect of digestion? i recall that it's fewer calories to convert dietary fat into body fat than carbs or protein, but have no recollection of what the percentage used in conversion is. there is one, though, for sure. :)

ditto mary! can't imagine a coach IRL more effective or wonderful than y'all. happy robin! sounds blissful!

cheers all - i'm hoping to be back in the normal swing on monday!

RobinW
01-17-2009, 10:06 PM
Good Evening :)

I thoroughly enjoyed my movie all by myself! :D I have one more, but I may make hubby suffer thru it :lol:

Eating was good today. Ive been contemplating next weeks lunches. I dont want anything cold. Im a bit tired of soup, so I suppose I need something that can be warmed, and is interesting. I'll pull out the cookbooks tomorrow and see what strikes my fancy.

Bill~ no need to feel sheepish, Im sure that secretary "knows" when you call, because you rarely do, that "my elbow hurts" must really hurt to make you finally call the dr. Kudos for making the appointment!

Mary~ I agree that we seem to find it difficult to find a real live coach. I have everyone here....then I have hubby and my dd. My daughter talked me out of the sf ff chocolate pudding I was going to make last week. Because at 12 yrs old she knows that if mom gets a taste of chocolate aside from by chocolate protein shake, Im done in.

I will admit tho, Ive opened up to my husband alot more this time around. Shared with him the sabotaging thoughts that bounce around in my head. It's been very good for me, and I think it helps him understand why I was eating the way I was.

onebyone~ :hug: It hurts my heart to know you are struggling like this. Have you tried weight watchers or low carb? I took a quick look over the diet in Dr. Beck's new book and I dont intend to do it. I know what works and will work it with the program. Do you have that same diet that you fall back on? The one that always works? Dig it out and apply the Beck teachings to it. I hope it all clicks into place for you!

Jean :wave:

Anne~ how did the haircut go? Ive been thinking of changing mine, but I didnt print the picture I found of the cut I want and can't find it for the life of me.

Have a great weekend everyone!

helping rachel
01-17-2009, 10:28 PM
:)Thanks for the warm welcome(s). I picked up the 2007 The Beck Diet solution about 6 months ago. I am working some of the programs steps and am needing to process and have validation on the others. Day by day, step by step. I found 3 fat chicks about 2 years ago and just logged back in last week. Do we comment on anything or is there a subject to discuss each week?

I am organizing my plan this week.


Talk with you later! HR

AnneWonders
01-17-2009, 11:48 PM
Coaches/Buddies A blah day. On plan (mostly), but still feel pretty cruddy. I'm tired of being sick. I did have an unplanned V8 when I was hungry in the afternoon. Sue me. Yes, I know that is a seriously non-Beck attitude, but I stand by it.

Bill Once I hauled DH to the ER for what he thought was possibly a broken arm after a bike crash. It was intact, but the bruise went all the way through his arm. He was mad because he made me take him in for a "boo boo." Perhaps the two of you are related?

What Jeanie said on your calculations. And I'm not sure how exact the 3500 is. It seems to alway be preceded with the word "about."

maryblu Why, I am a real live coach! And so are you. I'm not too picky about how we contact each other, are you? I hate the phone myself. Thanks for being there.

Just look away if you see math. It makes me happy though!

RobinW Want to trade places for a day?? My new do is fabulous. Great cut, good color.

onebyone It is obvious to me that you have a lot of feeling and emotion, if not necessarily positive, about this bus strike. Can you channel some of that into your painting?

I also think you should do whatever food plan works for you. There are about a thousand out there, and so I'm not surprised that the first one you found didn't fit. High protein/low carb, low fat/high carb, good fats/carbs all work for some people and not others. Think about what (if anything) you liked from your first plan, what you didn't like, and see if you find something that gets you closer. FWIW: even though high protein & low/good carb diets are the current diet orthodoxy, they make me feel awful, and I'm high carb, almost veggie all the way. Yes, I'm one of the three people in the world who can eat a 100 cal pack and not be hungry an hour later. You, and we all, have to do what works for each of us, individually. So, COOL, you get to dump what isn't working, and eat something that works for you, instead of fitting yourself into an ill-fitting plan.

Jeanie Date night?? What is this thing of which you speak?? Ah yes, spending time with your SO in a non-parental capacity. Someday. LOL.

Rachel A subject to discuss?? Wow, I'm not nearly that organized or disciplined. Jump in wherever you're at, and let us know how you're doing.

G'night Beckies!

Anne

BillBlueEyes
01-18-2009, 07:04 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Deliberately chose to browse in a sporting goods store while on my walk rather than Whole Foods where the samples live. CREDIT moi. I suppose avoiding the place is a legitimate Beck strategy, but I long to be sufficiently centered that I see the samples and automatically think, "That's not about me." Methinks I'm wallowing a bit in the desire to be without issues about eating.

This weekend I'm planning what take-outs I'll collect for my Inauguration party Tuesday night. By consensus demand, it'll include BBQ ribs and pulled pork for the two young men. I'm very conscious of how drawn I am toward a mound of ribs - not just to one rib or to a standard serving of ribs. I'm including grilled vegetables and a big salad, so the option exists for sane and desirable choices. If I properly do my Beck planning, that's just what I'll have. If I go in cold, I'll just fall into working alongside the two younger guys to finish off whatever size order of ribs I bring home. Guess I shouldn't be surprised, but my assignment is to plan. There oughta be a book.


maryblu - Glad you're not frozen. OK, OK, all math is done - I was just trying to scare myself that animal fat and vegetable oils do impact my weight.

Robin (RobinW) - Yay for a day of rest. Ouch that you reminded me that if God is a woman, the reward for a good life might be unlimited, 24/7 chick flicks on my solid gold iPod. hmmmmmmmmm..... Good luck with your choice for next week's lunches.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch for feeling down, especially on "date night." I drool over the list of foods you're preparing for yourself; double drooling over the thought of having jambalaya in my freezer.

RE the calculations: Nope, I took nothing into consideration except for the common published numbers. I'm suspicious about both 3500 Calories per pound and 9 Calories per gram. But those are the numbers published over and over again by reliable sources. The thing for me is that the calculation just hits me over the head with the obvious: Alfredo sauce goes right to the body, ounce by ounce. As does the fat not trimmed off a pork chop and the luscious fat in buffalo wings.


onebyone - Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Sending hugs, hugs, hugs.

Kudos for banishing the fake sugar. Kudos for walking every day. Kudos for signing up for the Tai Chi class. And BIG Kudos for giving yourself credit even while feeling the gloom. Neat that you allow yourself to peek out and see the parts of yourself that are functioning just right.

And Ouch that pain muddles thinking. Of course there is no should for your diet plan, including the one in Beck's new book. My take is that the new book is not an important part of getting on plan for you right now. Myself, I'm dawdling along at reading it; the first chapters in Beck Diet Solution are the key and the new book doesn't change that.

Sending resolving thoughts to the union and the city managers to get your city working again.

Oh, and sending hugs again. All the strength and power of onebyone is still visible to me even when it's not visible to you.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for still feeling "cruddy." Kudos for keeping the attitude strong despite it. So LOL at both "Sue me" and "Date night?" Yep, an attitude is the thing that onslaught after onslaught of disasters can't physically take away. Hats off to you.

Yep, I sympathize with your DH for going to ER when the arm wasn't even in two pieces - definitely a kindred soul.


Rachel (helping rachel) - Kudos for organizing your plan and moving forward.

Re subjects and commenting on anything: Nope, no given subject. We aren't an organized group, just a vibrant one. There's no one in charge. No one here represents Dr. Beck or 3FC. I'm attracted to this forum because I get support from this group to stay on my plans, and I further help myself by supporting the group in return. So, I ditto Anne's suggestion, "Jump in wherever you're at, and let us know how you're doing."


Readers - "If I compare myself with non-dieters or maintainers, I'll feel resentful. If I compare myself with successful dieters and maintainers, I'll feel better and be more successful myself." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 45.

davidette
01-18-2009, 09:11 AM
Lily Glad to hear you are doing your own research on osteopenia. Doctors can't get up to date on everything all the time, even specialists. It's my opinion walking is what saved my mother from suffering osteoporotic defomities. She never went to an exercise class in her life, but she was always on the move; nursing, gardening, etc.

oneby one Congrats on spotting the things you are deserve credit for, harder than it sounds. :hug:

Robin Too bad I don't like pickles; I'm wracking my brain for a substitute. Kudos on thinking ahead and carrying them to work!

Bill Deliberately browsing a Whole Foods is asking a bit much of anybody, even Judith Beck herself! I think you deserve a medal for choosing to browse the sporting goods store instead! :bravo:


Stayed 100% OP yesterday, pre-diet practice, shooting for minimum of 7 days before I incorporate a diet. I plan on blending things I know about myself (don't like to spend time in the kitchen, etc) with something dramatically different for me: Plan entire day of 3 meals and 3 snacks with a total calorie count higher than my usual limit. I have a diet program I can enter my meals in to track calories, nutrients, etc. The big difference will be eating more often throughout the day and less at night, and eliminating making choices during the day. As you said so succinctly Bill, the magic is not in the plan, but following a plan.

I'm OP with my gym schedule too. Even though I like exercise, it' so much easier having made a "group" commitment. The dreaded water class was fabulous! There was a new instructor who kept us moving the whole time and I was never cold. Plus I rewarded myself with the hot tub afterwards. I'll be looking forward to it next Friday.

:wave:to newcomers Rachel and Heidi. I know you'll find the posts here as inspiring as I do~!

helping rachel
01-18-2009, 05:02 PM
Ok, you all do such a good job of personal indies. Is there a way to read previous posts comment without continuing stopping scrolling up to read each one? On plan today, dealing with feelings of hunger...realizing that I don't have to feed them each time. I also had an ah-ha moment to reward myself for doing somethings right. I realized that I was stuck on failing and then going into a spiraling fall afterwards. I am such enjoying reading everyone's comments and their daily journal entries.

onebyone
01-18-2009, 06:01 PM
Hi Coaches

Thanks so much for being here and letting me vent. That you guys just assume I will figure it out is all I really need to really feel like I will figure it out. I am going to take a few days and look some foodplans over and consider what I need and what I want for myself. I can do this because you guys are doing this too.

I am feeling better. It's too bad it's starting to snow heavily out there again, imagine, in January and in Canada no less... unheard of (haha). I have to head out and mail a package to a customer. That was a surprise yesterday. And if it's snowing it's definitely warmer than it's been the past few days.

davidette Hi! I love water aerobics... glad you discovered it too. I'm trying to find my own authentic way to follow a foodplan too. We are worth the trouble to take our time and to try and get it right.

BillBlueEyes Thanks for your belief in me. I wish I knew what actually is the best way for me. My 2 successful longterm weightloss bouts, both around 1.5 yrs on the plans, were both unhealthy: Nutrisystem at age 24/25-- I starved and Dr. Bernstein ar age 39/40 and his 2 tbsp of milk a day among few other food stuffs and weekly vitamin injections with a needle. Super-expensive, highly restrictive and my hair fell out. I can't do that again. Thanks again.

wndranneThanks for reminding me I didn't have to get this food thing right and be perfect and that I get to choose another way and then another if that still isn't right. Because a plan doesn't work for me doesn't make me wrong or less than or faulty. It just simply means I need another plan. Thank you for reminding me this is not only not an emergency but it is also to be expected and normal.

helping rachel Hi. Nice to meet you. We just get on here and talk about whatever is up with us. Almost everything is Beck related as in Beck is the housing for our foodplans and if we follow it and an appropriate foodplan
it helps us succeed until we reach our goals and to maintain our goals which is equally important.

RobinW Hi. well I've been trying to folow my foolproof plan and it's not working. I did abandon it last semester when under intense pressure so considering school is here again and I am unnerved by this stupid strike i think I need something very plain and very simple. I'll find something. I also need some success.

kuhljeanie Thanks and yeah much of the mood has passed but I need to get a grip again. I loathe January. Glad it's 1/2 over. Let's both feel better soon.:hug:

Have a good evening everyone.

JenMusic
01-18-2009, 06:22 PM
Hey, everyone. This is my first time posting in this thread - I was previously active in other threads, but about 6 months ago I stopped posting here and 3FC and my weight loss efforts stopped. I've gained about 10 pounds in that time - yikes!

I'm trying to start back up again, and have just heard about Beck for the first time. I'm considering buying her newest book - I'm attracted to the approach of behavior change and thinking like a thin person

But before I make the investment, I wonder if someone here could answer a couple of questions:
1. Is exercise discussed? Generally speaking (see below for the exception) I can handle my diet and nutrition, but have NEVER developed a continuing exercise habit. Does the book use these same principles to change behavior about exercise? If not, will I understand the principles well enough to be able to do that on my own?
2. The exception I was speaking of - occasional binges. I don't think I have compulsive eating disorder, but when I do overeat it tends to be in the form of a binge, rather than in just too many calories spread over a day/week. Does she address this form of overeating?

Thanks for any help/advice you guys have to offer. I really appreciate it

Jennifer

RobinW
01-18-2009, 07:42 PM
just a quick hello......I thought I had already posted today :dunno:

Food is 100% exercise is off today. Curried soup made for lunches next week, and 2 meals premade (chicken) for next week, plus 2 meals dh is going to worry about, leaves me with only 3 more to plan.

I hope everyone had a great weekend!

jb735u
01-18-2009, 09:36 PM
I think i need to start planning meals out for myself that will def. help me manage more of what im eating.

planning out weeks like that would also help with a budget...but im a man i dont think of those things ;)

AnneWonders
01-18-2009, 10:26 PM
Coaches/Buddies Another on plan day. Still sick. Still no exercise. Still not getting much sleep. Still strung out on Sudaphed and coffee. Did I mention yesterday that I hate this? Weight loss has stalled, although I anticipate it will continue once I'm ready to rejoin the living, like any day now please. I wonder how stupid I'm going to be at work tomorrow, with brain malfunction and all.

Bill I'm so with you that I'd love to be without eating issues. But I've accepted that I won't. It's been six years. Ain't gonna happen. So I just do what I have to do. I think your browsing in the sporting goods store is the perfect example of that. LOL, there outta be a book!

davidette Sounds like you are setting yourself up to succeed at your diet!

Rachel I do personals by opening a couple tabs on my browser and just tabbing back and forth. It is a bit easier than the scrolling up and down thing, and it is harder to miss people. Nice job on giving yourself credit!

onebyone I was pretty sure you'd have it together when you held on through the end of last semester and stepped right back up. That was tough. Condolences on your snow--can't stand the stuff myself!

Jennifer Welcome back!! To answer your questions:

1) Exercise is discussed in both books, and is on the checklists in both books. Having said that, there isn't a lot of emphasis put on it. But I find I can definitely apply the process of identifying sabotaging thoughts, and then making plans for dealing with them to just about anything. I finally got myself to start flossing regularly, after having it on my New Year's Resolution list for the last umpteen years, and oddly, flossing isn't mentioned once in the books. I've also used the CT techniques to question my all or nothing thinking about exercise.

2) Beck warns that an eating disorder needs professional help, and not her book. I do think a lot of the all or nothing thinking that leads to binges is very well addressed, and is helpful. Getting back on track immediately is one of the most important skills and there is a figure on p. 167 of BDS on how a slip of a piece of cake (500 calories) can lead to "binge" of 3500 calories. Beck is very careful on how she uses the word "binge" in BDS and it doesn't appear at all in CBDL, which makes me think she shys away from it because it has a rigorous clinical definition in psychology.

RobinW Nice planning! :wave:

Jeremy :welcome: Planning is good.

angelmomma210
01-19-2009, 01:22 AM
So glad to be here right now. Not doing good this weekend. Am off tomorrow so will be opening book again. This last week went okay but not as good as I would have liked it to be.
Dh is doing okay...the unemployment helps....but we still believe that he will get his job back. I do pray that he does. He is starting to drive me nuts being home...he is starting to get lazy and just sit around. Told me that if he really want to do something to clean his computer room up. He agrees. We will see.
Students on my bus have been a pain lately...is it the moon or what. Just glad that this last week is over. Was out of vitamins and did not realize it....so got me some. Hopefully this will help...having no iron I believe has made me tired alot more than normal. Did start it this pm.
Well I sure do home that all is going well for you all.

BillBlueEyes
01-19-2009, 04:49 AM
:welcome: Jennifer (JenMusic) :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Buddy / Diet Coach Group.

And, in case you didn't get this from your earlier posts on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about Beck?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

BillBlueEyes
01-19-2009, 04:52 AM
:welcome: Jeremy (jb735u) :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Buddy / Diet Coach Group.

And, in honor of your first day posting on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about Beck?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

BillBlueEyes
01-19-2009, 06:04 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Good exercise shoveling some eight inches of light powder snow. CREDIT moi. And took a thirty minute walk while the snow was still falling, using my new hiking poles to guard against the hidden ice patches. That worked well.

Robin (RobinW) - Well, Hello back. Your curried soup sounds good. Are you busy printing up stuff for the Inauguration?

onebyone - Yay for hanging in until you get some traction. Your approach this round does sound so much more sane than your description of your previous two. Perhaps that's why you're able to handle these bumps in the road and then go forward.

LOL at "...snow heavily out there again, imagine, in January and in Canada no less." Who woulda thunk?


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch that your bug hangs on. Ouch that you're headed to work with it. Just thinking; if software configuration management systems tracked the state of our head colds as well as the number of hours of previous nights' sleep, would that show a trend of subtle errors introduced with slightly less sleep, and blatant errors introduced with major sleep deprivation? Good luck working today; I have the day off. I'll think about you.

Chris (angelmomma210) - Yay for the clear perspective that being slightly off doesn't impede going forward. And Kudos for restocking your vitamins to get back on track.

Yep, it's a challenge for a guy to shift from being work oriented. Sending supportive thoughts his way.


davidette - Kudos for on-plan with exercise. Kudos for on-plan with food. Yay for taking a full seven days before starting; good Beck strategy there. I think you're right on with "...eliminating making choices during the day."

And thanks for the medal; I'll wear it with pride. Yep, not much chance to get off-plan browsing in a sporting goods store, LOL.


Rachel (helping rachel) - Kudos for two whopping big insights as well as Kudos for on-plan eating. That's a big one, your "...dealing with feelings of hunger...realizing that I don't have to feed them each time." That one just blew me away when Beck put the thought in my brain that "Hunger is not an emergency." I had never considered that. Freeing isn't it?

And neat for identifying your thinking pattern that leads to spiraling. My take is that rapid recovery from minor off-plan eating is the biggest step to staying on plan.


Jennifer (JenMusic) - Yep, Beck is the way to go for using behavior change to get to a healthy life style. Good choice.

Re your two questions: I agree with the answers from Anne (wndranne). The Beck strategies help me to keep going to my gym and keep up with walking. I use the No Choice notion when I feel the blah's about going; just assert that it's part of my life now.

You'll feel yourself right at home with the folks around here with a history of BIG overeating, not just a few extra calories a day. What I like about the Beck strategies is that they can be used with the first bite of overeating. Or the second. Or after the whole container. They are available to break out of spiral.

To avoid scrolling, I open two windows using ALT-TAB to toggle between them. I open both as post reply since I like the reversed order and like the condensed viewing without signatures.


Jeremy (jb735u) - LOL at "....but im a man i dont think of those things." Yep, we guys gotta turn on neurons that have been idling for years. But, we can do it. My take is that planning really is more difficult with a young adult life-style. More difficult, but not impossible. If you choose to read one of the Beck books, you might find it useful to peek toward the end where she admits to the idea of a generic plan that allows choices. For example, my plan has three breakfast menus; this morning I'm having granola rather than oatmeal because I just made a batch and want to see how it came out. You can have a plan for each of the places you generally go out to eat with friends, while acknowledging that you won't know where or if until late in the day.

You might also enjoy reading the 20-Something threads; those folks are full of good ideas posted at the speed of text messages.

Glad you found your way here. Hope you stick around.


Readers - "Stage 1
The Success Skills Plan
Skill 1: Motivate yourself daily (page 52).
..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 50.

RobinW
01-19-2009, 09:42 AM
Good Morning :coffee:

Bill~ Kudos for your walk in the pretty snowfall. It's been so pretty here, not alot of accumulation, just lots of big fluffy flakes. No....not printing any obama shirts. But then again the event is tomorrow, so maybe today we will be blitzed with folks who need inauguration shirts? Everyone loves to leave things for the last minute. :lol:

Anne~Ouch for your sudaphed and coffee'd brain....you described that perfectly, I could actually feel just how you were feeling :lol:

Jen & Jeremy :welcome3: :wave:

onebyone~ Im glad you're feeling better. How are things going today?

Im down 2 more lbs! Im just thrilled :D :D :D Planning is key for me!! I need to have stuff ready to eat in the fridge and/or thawed for supper. Getting my rest is also unbelievably important. I am so happy to have found Dr. Beck! :hug:

Have a great day everyone!

AnneWonders
01-19-2009, 11:02 AM
I'm calling in sick today. I made myself a Memory Card about how lousy I'm feeling, but still not using food for comfort--this is a historical danger zone for me. Back tonight.

Anne

lilyyoung
01-19-2009, 11:33 AM
Thanks for the support on my osteopenia diagnosis everyone. If I forget to thank someone, please be aware I really appreciate your support. I only reviewed a day and a half of posts.
Robin, thanks. I will see a physiatrist tomorrow to get advice on an exercise plan. Right now I am managing to maintain my weight for the last few days. I'm giving myself a big credit for that, because I could use this situation as an excuse to binge. Good for you for mall walking and for the weight loss!
Bill, I hope you get some good medical attention for the elbow pain. It must be a little better if you are shoveling snow. Thanks for the ideas about Fitday--I will look at it. And thanks for all the support. I don't have a nutritionist but it's not a bad idea.
Anne, thanks for the support. I'm sorry you are still sick. I would love to get to the point where I think of reaching for a V-8 when I want something. It's definitely a better choice than some of my old ones, like cookies or chips from the office vending machine!
Marybulu, like you, I prefer this form of coaching. I had a live coach and I began to feel critical of her if she wasn't asking the right questions, and sometimes I think she felt critical of me too. It was very helpful though, in the first few weeks of Beck. I hadn't found this group yet.
One-by-One, I think Beck's new diet in the CBDFL book is good and nutritious, but I also think lots of plans are good. I like the new Weight Watchers plan since they suggest filling foods, which are high-fiber or high protein foods, and balanced nutrition. Even though I am modifying it by adding a few more calories/points. I feel for you with the bus strike. I'm a non-driver. We had a transit strike in New York City a few years ago and it was absolutely awful.
Davidette, thanks for the support. It's great that exercise helped your mother deal with her osteoporosis issues. My mother was fairly sedentary most of her life. Kudos for your pre-diet practice and exercise.
Welcome Jen and Jeremy.
Angelmomma a big wave and hi to you, stick with us. (I can't find the waving icon.)
I was wondering how everybody handled personal responses. I will try two windows, I will try alt-tab. This time I took notes by hand!

maryblu
01-19-2009, 11:37 AM
OMG, Beckies,

I finally know what I want to be when I grow up!

Pete Seeger.

Didja see him doing "This Land is Your Land" on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial yesterday? Not only did he stand there in the cold with less warm clothing on his lean frame than his mother would have liked, but he sprinted off the stage.......and then sprinted back. Not the hint of a tummy...straight as an arrow posture.

He will be 90 on May 13. OMG. Such grace! And so very cool.

Jon bon Jovi didn't look half bad,either.....


Enjoy your celebration of MLK Day wherever you are..we are getting a much needed reprieve from snow and cold.....exercise will be a trip to the metro for some necessity shopping........

Did the snow/wood chores yesterday, and still marveling at how much I enjoy moving and how I can do anything I desire to do, though I do have to admit, BillBE, that my 50 mumble- mumble -something -year -old -elbow does hurt every time I shovel snow.

Still have to say, freedom of movement.....ah, make that JOY of movement is the biggest advantage of all. I feel incredibly different from the way I did at half this age. Still a wonder. :)

kuhljeanie
01-19-2009, 11:51 AM
happy monday all!

no time, no time (sigh...) but just needed a little gloat because i am IN THE 160's! FINALLY! holding on by my fingernails, but i don't care. i have SEEN it. yay!

i've also started a blog on my efforts to wean from bistro. thought it could be helpful to some of the bistro folks who are in a similar position, and maybe for others as one way to deal with the planning and cooking conundrum.

did i mention i'm in the 160's? :D

helping rachel
01-19-2009, 11:59 AM
Good Morning all! Just a few minutes to post before I am heading out the door. Glad to have the day off from school. I had a nice victory last night with my family. I love to cook and try to let my family be loved by me thru food(comfort, nuture ect...) I cooked with my oldest son and his friend. This was fun and bonding. My victory was when we sat down to eat I didn't have to show them I loved them by having all that was on the table. I think Bill said it best....that's not about me anymore. I am finding freedom in changing. I also helped my daughter to identify her feelings at midnight and that since she was bored, she didn't have to feed them. SUCH A NEW THOUGHT PROCESS FOR ME. Thanks for listening.

JenMusic
01-19-2009, 12:09 PM
Thanks for the answers and warm welcome, everyone! I appreciate the thoughtful responses.

I have ordered the book and am looking forward to starting this journey. I will plan on posting here once I've begun reading the book - I'm sure I'll have tons of thoughts/comments/questions and will probably annoy you all with them! :)

Have a good week, everyone!

AnneWonders
01-19-2009, 06:28 PM
News flash: I went to the Take Care clinic at Walgreens and I've got a sinus infection. Got some nice antibiotics to help it along. Hoping that does the trick.

Anne

angelmomma210
01-19-2009, 09:51 PM
Got my first response and advantage cards done. Also started my memory box. Did not do that great eating wise, but have not started to do the new book. Need to go as I have alot to do before I go to bed. Have a great night.

AnneWonders
01-19-2009, 10:38 PM
Coaches/Buddies Another day on plan. Almost sounds boring after a while. :) I'm hoping my antibiotics kick in tomorrow and I start feeling well enough to exercise again.

Chris I hope the iron helps! Good job on getting your response and advantages cards done.

Bill I don't envy you your shoveling! How is the elbow?

RobinW Hurray for two pounds! You've lost a lot in the last couple months! Planning is working for me too.

Lily I think V8 actually probably qualifies as a low-cal (30) beverage, so I could retract my snarky "sue me," LOL. Now if only I could stomach the low-sodium kind...

maryblu I'm living my joy of movement through you at the moment. I so miss it. Antibiotics are GOOD things.

Jean :celebrate: 160s. Sweet!

Rachel You are doing such great things for yourself and your kids. You should be very proud of yourself!

Jennifer Which of the books did you decide to order?

I'm sleepy. Going to write down my plan for tomorrow and attempt to get to bed early. It is theoretically DH's night to get up with DS, but he isn't always really good at getting DS back to sleep.

Anne

BillBlueEyes
01-20-2009, 05:09 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - I made "Tamale Pie" with the TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein). CREDIT moi. Onions, meat, black beans, tomatoes, and spices are sauteed in a skillet then baked in the oven with cornbread on top. Was good. The TVP gave the right texture; the seasonings gave a strong tamale/taco taste. Will be a useful vegetarian potluck dish. For our own consumption next time, I may add about a quarter pound of ground beef thinking that just a small amount will fool the palate.

maryblu - Love that thought, "JOY of movement is the biggest advantage of all." And Kudos for out moving with your snow/wood chores. I'll go look for a replay of Pete Seeger's This Land is Your Land. Wonder what diet/exercise plan keeps him so fit.

Robin (RobinW) - Congrats on 2 more pounds. Yay for rest. And Kudos for planning.

Jean (kuhljeanie) - BIG Congrats for reaching the 160's. Nice to achieve that steadily inching along. Neat that you're doing the Bistro wean so seriously. I still expect to see Jeanstro frozen dinners at Whole Foods any day now, LOL.

Oh, and Congratulations on reaching the 160's.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch for feeling lousy with a sinus infection; Kudos for not using food for comfort.

Re my elbow: it's about the same - doctor's appointment for my boo-boo is Wednesday. DW has me on Ibuprofen for its anti-inflammatory properties. I shoveled anyway.


Chris (angelmomma210) - Yay for getting started with the memories box and reading the new book.

Rachel (helping rachel) - What a gift to be able to help your DD identify the feelings behind snacking. And wonderful story cooking with your oldest son and his friend. Thanks for the reminder; I'd love to get past my own food pushing stuff.

Lily (lilyyoung) - Kudos for staying on an even keel. Yep, maintaining is a better choice than binging. Thanks for the concern about my elbow.

Jennifer (JenMusic) - Kudos for ordering the book; great step. No need to go silent until it arrives. Feel free to comment and discuss; a different perspective is always valued.


Readers - "Stage 1
The Success Skills Plan
...
Skill 2: Weigh yourself daily (page 56).
..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 50.

davidette
01-20-2009, 07:22 AM
Well I let the scales get the best of me and started restricting my planned calories yesterday instead of practicing the full 7 days. I couldn't stand watching the numbers bounce up and down, edging higher overall. I stayed on plan and allowed myself a much higher calorie limit than I usually do, but still... it bugs me I let the scales have so much power over the way I act and feel. Rationally it was probably not a bad decision; if the scales are only a guide, they were definitely guiding to eating less! Emotionally though, I resent these numbers have such power to control how I feel about myself long after I've stepped off the scales. Especially since sometimes they seem so arbitrary. :tantrum:

Added 30 minutes on the elliptical after stretch and move class yesterday. I'm still so far from what I could do physically just a few months ago when I had been at the gym regularly. Imagine that, it didn't all come back in a week! Especially yoga, there's just more "body" in the way; every class is a diet motivator! Thanks maryblu for JOY of movement is the biggest advantage of all. :dancer: I am still feeling a higher energy level waking up, probably because I'm sleeping so much better!

angelmomma Sympathy on DH around the house all the time; went through that last year myself. What a challenge not to say things I would regret. I kept telling myself conflict between us would only make the whole situation worse and tried to make my "suggestions" as gentle as possible. Have faith, it will work out. Kudoes on focusing on you ; making cards and memory box!

Bill Regarding head colds and sleep deprivation: In one study, a 26-minute nap improved NASA pilots’ performance by 34 percent. (Brain Rules). What else can you do in 30 minutes that improves your efficiency by 1/3? Is that an excuse for a nap or what! :yawn: As Robin said, getting rest is unbelievably important. Robin congrats on 2 more lbs!

kuhljeanie Yeah for getting in the 160s! :cp:

rachel Kudos on cooking and bonding without binging! My husband has that "food is love" gene; I have to go to my response card " I'm entitled to do what I have to do to lose weight, as long as I am nicely assertive". Bill's that's not about me resonates with me too.

anne Glad you got meds for the sinus infection. Hope that gets you up and running.

Suppposed to get some snow today - hope it holds off until I've been to the gym; CREDIT me for not using that as an excuse!

Have a great Tuesday!

helping rachel
01-20-2009, 09:44 AM
:hug:Diet coaches/buddies: Thank you to all the veterans that have made the committment to post here. I receive the gift that you all have created a safe place for me to come,grow,tweak and change. I love hearing all your experiences, helps me to ponder new things to try, give myself credit for the changes and gently let go of the stuff that isn't about me anymore!!! :carrot:
Davidette You encourage me by exercising. I haven't add that back in to my routine. I used to really enjoy water aerobics and walking, but stopped months ago. I read your entry and know that to change for good, I must have an exercise program outside of housework and my job.

Bill Thanks for taking the time to consistently be here. You are an example of...If you work the principles, it will work. Thanks for the little book blurbs at the end of your posts. Little bits of wisdom to chew on,,,,help me
Marylu,Robin, Angelmomma,kuhljeanie,Anne, Jill and Jennifer, and Lily glad to have you as diet buddies and on this journey to a more healthy lifestyle. Blessings on all your choices today:^:

kuhljeanie
01-20-2009, 11:30 AM
morning all! was so pleased to receive a comment on my brand-new blog already! thanks, bill, for the idea for YET ANOTHER small business. filling my head with more food-production dreams, just when i was letting the cake business slack off. :) apparently to do this right, i need to buy a special piece of kitchen equipment that allows me to maintain precise water temperatures to cook things properly using the sous vide method. i'm not sure about that yet...we're still staggering under the volume and bulk of all the cake stuff (which i do still use, don't get me wrong!) we just need a MUCH bigger kitchen. sigh.

had a beautiful run yesterday (had to postpone until i could get to a treadmill, given the crap weather. i'm committed, but i'm not insane.) unfortunately i pushed myself hard enough to experience the dreaded "runner's trots" which made for an uncomfortable commute home. i'm down another pound today - i may have discovered the real reason runners are so skinny! :) will work equally hard today, although i am extremely tired. just couldn't get to sleep last night. i'd doze off, then wake up, over and over. compounding the problem, el nino was up at 5:30 and i spent over an hour getting him back down. i FINALLY fell good and asleep around 7:30 - just in time to start getting ready for work. fortunately there's a school bus that comes around at 7:45 and that woke me up so i wasn't too horribly late for work today.

anne, another day OP is NEVER boring! you go, girl! hope those sinuses clear up quickly. bill, tamale pie sounds yummy! i'm thinking about a crockpot version - like a thick taco soup. it would probably freeze well. cheers! davidette, i hear you on those numbers! it's a real trick to allow them to make you feel pleased when they go your way, but to stay mellow and objective when they don't. sounds like you're finding your balance. rachel! welcome! let me echo others' comments on the joy of movement. i can move faster now that i'm somewhat lighter, but the real wonder is that it just feels better. can't wait to get to know you better! chris, looking forward to hearing about that memory box. you don't have to wait until you've read the new book to start eating better, do you? ;)

waving at lily, onebyone, mary, jen, and kim!

RobinW
01-20-2009, 12:49 PM
Good Morning :coffee:

Bill~ oooooo tamalie pie, that sounds good!! Your getting to be quite the chef! :D

Anne~ Oh, sinus infections are never fun!! Hopefully that will clear up soon for you. Kudos for being on plan! I think boring op is good.....eventful op days might mean you've been struggling with something. Yah for boring on plan! :cheers:

davidette~ Awesome job with the 30min on the eliptical!! Kudos!!

helping rachel~ I receive the gift that you all have created a safe place for me to come,grow,tweak and change. Thank you for that. I hadn't thought of 3fc's that way. But you are right, when support isnt forthcoming and you need someplace where you aren't judged, this is the safe place. Thank you for the reminder :)

Jean~ did I miss the blog post? Can you post a link or pm it to me pls :D

onebyone~ how are you making out?

One of my favourite quotes is "Always bite off more than you can chew, then figure out to chew it."

Well it seems Ive done just that again. Within 24hrs of sending out vendor information for our event.....almost all the tables are taken! With the feedback Ive been getting, Im almost worried that our venue isnt going to be big enough. :dizzy: But wow, what fun this is turning out to be!!

Ive really been fighting with myself to NOT change my goal for this event. When I am going to be front and center for most of it...I really dont want to look like a big blob up there. I know I not a big blob, but that is where my brain goes :( Ok, that's out there.....and I know its a thinking error. *sigh* Im workin' on it!

Eating is off, Im eating on plan, but not enough food. I need to find some way to add more "good" foods without triggering any sugar cravings.

Exercise is not too shabby. Ive been walking back and forth to the shop...but the treadmill is collecting dust again.

I promise myself to get on it tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yes:

I even got my water in yesterday!!! This is quite the feat folks, because our bathroom at the shop is so cold its like going out to the outhouse! :lol: It would be ok if I didnt have to remove any clothing!! ;)

Have a great day everyone!

angelmomma210
01-20-2009, 03:03 PM
Morning all. Doing alot better..started my vitamins again..was out for over 2 weeks and just keep forgetting to get them. Staying op right now and reading my cards.
I really appreciate all of you. You help me by your posts...you give me advice and most of all you let me come here and just be myself. Thanks

Lucky Charms
01-20-2009, 04:23 PM
Hi Everyone.

I lost 20lbs on WW, but realize that I need to change how I think and feel about food. I browsed thru Dr Beck's newest book and felt like it was the right plan for me. I was just wondering if it is worth it to get both books, or is the new one a rehashing of the original book?

Also would you recommend the workbook? Amazon has a deal where you can get all 3 for $40. Just wanted some feedback before I splurged. From what I have read here, in the Beck diet threads, I think it will work best for me.

Thank you.

RobinW
01-20-2009, 05:12 PM
all 3 books for $40? Id jump on that one!! I have all 3 :lol:

I loved the first one and the workbook has been sooooooo helpful to me. Im just starting to read the new book. But I love the concept of it! Its working for me.

AnneWonders
01-20-2009, 10:24 PM
Coaches/Buddies Another on plan, sick day. I stayed home again, but I'm thinking I'll be back at work tomorrow. I got to watch the inauguration. I did far too much housework today, and after this I need to go clean up the rest of the mess for the housecleaners tomorrow. I always hate how that works.

Bill Your tamale pie sounds interesting.

davidette I got the scales to have less power over me by weighing myself something like every hour for a week. It sounds pretty obsessive, but I got to know how much my clothes weighed, how much I weighed before and after lunch, before and after working out, what variation I got from different scales and what not. After seeing as much as a 10 lb difference in a single day, I find it hard to get really worked up over small day-to-day fluctuations. It is the longer term trends that I watch now.

Good for you for adding some exercise.

Rachel You are sounding so peaceful and centered in your posts. That'll be a nice antidote to me in this thread. I have a tendency to be pretty tightly wound.

Jean Beautiful run on a treadmill?? Really?? What kind of stuff are you putting in these meals of yours? I can never get past the gerbil feeling myself.

RobinW Everything is just clicking for you!

Chris Glad the vitamins and helping out. Nice work with your cards.

Lucky Charms I think the basics of the CT techniques are covered pretty well in all the books. I'd probably pick BDS if you already have a food plan, WW sounds like? I'm not familiar enough with the workbook to know what to tell you about that.

DS is calling. He's supposed to be asleep so I can clean the house while DH is puttering downstairs. Time to reinsert pacifier, I think! :)

Anne

onebyone
01-20-2009, 11:17 PM
Good Evening everyone.

I'm not having very many good days lately. Since I opened the door to sugar I have yet to close it.

I was sitting in Graduation Review Class this morning and a panic came over me. This is an extra class for those of us getting ready to graduate at the end of June. So part of the whole thing is we will have a boatload of group photos done of us. They will be everywhere: press kits, website, booklet, invitation cards. I am sure you know where I am going with this. I have 6 months to graduation. I feel so unable to lose even one pound. This week I went up 7. 7. yeah. Water weight for sure but you know, I just don't know what to do. Or even where to start. I don't want to be the "fat one" in those group photos. I really don't. Even if I lost 10lbs/month I'd still be the fat one...but not the really fat one. We have a slim trim mostly 20 something hip group. I just don't want to look really awful and the stress of this kind of stuff traditionally, historically, habitually, makes me turn to food. I feel between a rock and a hard place.

And yet.

So? Why would these next 6 months be any better or worse than any other 6 months? It's still day by day. I just need to start doing something. I've been getting lots of exercise due to the bus strike. Since I am stuck at the school for an extra 4-5 hours above and beyond my classes every day during the week it's pretty much a daily occurence that to get anywhere to keep myself entertained is at least a 30 minute walk. So credit moi for continuing to move.
Now I just need to get the rest of it together. I'm working on it.

PS: as for the bus strike we were told it will be TWELVE weeks after the strike is over to get the buses fully going.50% will be running if they are safety certified. Today both sides are at the exact same impasse they were at before. If they went back tomorrow, there would still be no buses for the course of my school semester. I'd just better accept it cause I really can't change it. What a dumb situation. Idiots.

BillBlueEyes
01-21-2009, 06:47 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Survived my own Inauguration party. Take out food from the local Southern BBQ place was a challenge, but I did OK. CREDIT moi for OK when there was a hulking mound of ribs and other meat calling. Sanity was helped by providing a monster green salad with my favorite very low calorie balsamic vinegar dressing (not from the BBQ place which, with exaggerated pride, serves only the most caloric of Southern cooking). CREDIT moi for insisting that the kids take home everything that wasn't eaten - all the ribs, all the pulled chicken, all the BBQ chicken, and the remaining red beans.


Robin (RobinW) - Congrats that your vendor event is an instant success - that should keep you busy in the upcoming weeks. Kudos for identifying the Thinking Error about standing in front of the audience. And Kudos for working out some right sized thoughts so you get your sanity back and can stay the course.

And Kudos for all that walking back and forth to the shop.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch for the sleep deprived night. Yay for "a beautiful run." Yep, you'd be my number one candidate for using the sous vide method. Without using the name, this method came up on a thread about omelets, which, unfortunately, suggested using zip-lock bags - a terrible idea since they release their carcinogenic stuff when heated.

Oh, in case I forgot to mention yesterday, Congrats for reaching the 160's.


onebyone - Ouch that the transportation strike continues. Kudos for recognizing that it will be here for this entire semester so that you can make plans and get emotional control of your life back.

Ouch for the Sabotaging Thoughts sparked by the impending class pictures. Yep, it's hard when the mind wants to compete with the young with that starving artist physique. But once you get the thoughts out in the open you'll be able to remember that comparison is just a killer and get back into seeing how you fit into the picture of your own future.

And Kudos for all that walking that you're doing.


Anne (wndranne) - Ouch that that sick thing lingers. Kudos for remaining on plan anyway. LOL at having to pick up before the housekeepers arrive; that happens here and I hate it also. Howsomeever, if I don't, my carefully layered stacks sitting about would get joined together without due archaeological layering - my primary filing technique.

Remembering to thank you for your neat reviews of Beck's two books. It sure was easy to insert links to them below.


Chris (angelmomma210) - Kudos for staying OP, reading your cards, and restocking your vitamins.

davidette - LOL at "...it didn't all come back in a week!" Yep, I know that desire for the body to permanently retain all the benefits of exercise when I've lapsed. But my next observation has always been that it comes back faster than it took me to get there the first time. As differs from pounds, which seem to be lost much more slowly than they are gained.

Thanks for NASA's endorsement of the nap. Wish I could work one in every day; I'm a believer.


Rachel (helping rachel) - I, too, am moved by your, "I receive the gift that you all have created a safe place for me to come,grow,tweak and change." And I concur - this group has created a special place, and, like you, I'm grateful for it. And thank you for the kind words to me.

Lucky Charms - Congrats on the 20 pounds lost with Weight Watchers. Kudos for recognizing that you need to change how you think and feel about food. Yep, Beck has the strategies for doing that.

As for which book, you've gotten two good (but different) recommendations so I'll add a third. I learned from The Beck Diet Solution so remain quite happy with that book. Some posters really like the workbook version of that book (they go together). I made my own excel spreadsheets to track the checklists, so I didn't use the workbook. Since I have both, it's hard to think about having only one, but I'd lean toward The Complete Beck Diet for Life since the problem solving using a Cheat Sheet is more compelling than the BDS Seven Question Technique.

But I recommend that you read the reviews by Anne (wndranne), The Complete Beck Diet for Life (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=160386), and The Beck Diet Solution (http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157214).

My calculations show the Amazon price for all three to be just the sum of the individual prices; the saving is in the free shipping because the total exceeds $25. If owning all three appeals to you, then you might as well order all three at once.


Readers - "Stage 1
The Success Skills Plan
...
Skill 3: Eat slowly, while sitting down and enjoying every bite. (page 61).
..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 50.

BillBlueEyes
01-21-2009, 06:52 AM
:welcome: Lucky Charms :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Buddy / Diet Coach Group.

And, in honor of your first day posting on 3FC, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about Beck?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

onebyone
01-21-2009, 08:17 AM
Good Morning Beckster Coaches

I am off to school this morning and have class until noon then have to leave the school for 5 hours to go find something to do until I get my ride home. So. I am heading today to the public library and will research diet plans and will come out of that place with a plan for myself. And a back up plan.
The full array of weightloss knowledge will be there at my fingertips. Surely I can find something that makes me tingle. If nothing else it's a 40-50min walk back and forth to anf from the library to get me ride so I have planned exercise into my day. Credit moi.

Will check in later.

lilyyoung
01-21-2009, 09:19 AM
I hope everyone enjoyed yesterday's inauguration in their own way--I thought it was great. No matter what your politics are it was inspiring!
Kudos moi for:
I went to the exercise doctor and was there on time at 3:30. The doctor had left because they called my home phone at 1:00 and since I didn't answer, she didn't wait for me. That makes absolutely no sense. I didn't explode, but I was upset. I wanted so badly to have a piece of cake at the Starbucks cafe right next door. Instead, I had a skim, sugar free vanilla latte! Ok, it wasn't planned, but it wasn't bad. I called someone, and I think I read my cards. I exercised this morning. I planned a few extra points yesterday and today in my quest for temporary maintenance. (I went about 2 points over yesterday.) I have been maintaining within a very close range the last 3 days--158.8, 159.2, 158.6.) I bought two books on osteoporosis/osteopenia. I'm determined to find ways to treat myself well--and not with piles of cake and ice cream! I haven't read any posts for a few days, but I will soon so I can catch up with how everyone is doing.
I just wanted to share while I had a couple of minutes.--Lily

Lucky Charms
01-21-2009, 10:49 AM
Thanks you so much for the warm welcome. I really appreciate the feedback from Robin W, Anne, and BillBlueEyes.

I have been a lurker for a while on 3FC. There was a thread, I believe in calorie counting, where the BDS was mentioned. That was the first time I heard about it, so after a trip to Barnes to check out the book and some online research I felt it was the right method for me. I found this thread just by looking on 3FC for more info about BDS

I was following WW, but quit a few month back as I did not agree with the focus of the meetings and no longer found it supportive for me. I do think WW is a great plan, but it was just not for me. In terms of a food plan I want to eat more whole foods and get away from processed foods. I know what I need to eat to loose weight, its just that I let things happen to me that get me off track too often.

I think also what appeals to me about Beck is that the focus is on a much slower weight loss process, so you eat more calories/day. (Or that's the impression I got from browsing thru CBDL.) I have 60 more pounds to loose and my goal is to be at 140lb by my 39th birthday. Since I will be 37 this week, I have 2 years to meet my goal. Eating 1400 cal/day is not resonable for me. By giving myself a few years to meet my goal I can eat closer to 1800-2000 cal/day, which I think I can do.

I think I have decided that I will get all 3 books. I use to spend $40/month on WW, so I figure spending that on all 3 books is not really much.

kuhljeanie
01-21-2009, 12:19 PM
hi y'all!

got on the treadmill yesterday, and my legs were like lead, so i decided to just walk for an hour instead of doing HIIT. credit moi for listening to my body, and for managing to time it so i got to see the inauguration on TV at the gym at work.

i slept a lot better last night, too. so did el nino - most appreciative for that. :) eating is still 100% OP. nothin' doing, right? :)

robin, i put the link to my blog in my signature. it's been great so far - i have one lady who comments and has been really helpful. thanks for reading! and yes, treadmill tonight! i'm with you in spirit. yay chris! keep on keepin' on! anne, really hoping you feel better before you have to go back to work! i wish we lived in one of those countries where there's no expectation that you have to perform while ill. it was a real eye-opener when i lived in europe, and the expectation is that you get well BEFORE you go back, not after. hey onebyone! ask and ye shall receive. all the support and help you need, girlfriend. whatever i can do. bill, wonderful to give away food that would be calling you otherwise. i love a strategy that helps your waistline and your karma at the same time. and thanks for the congrats! i'm still in the 160's! ;) will be using my foodsaver to seal the chicken for sous vide, and i'll be freezing it immediately afterwards. no sense in getting botulism, right? and lily, MAN. that sucks. absolutely tremendous job not going nuts at starbucks. it's exactly that kind of choice that we're all working towards. yay for doing it!!! hi lucky! i'm right there with you - as soon as i let go of (my own unrealistically high) expectations for straight line, 2-lb-per-wk loss, things got a lot more - liveable. i've lost a lot more slowly, but over time, i've lost a lot more, and i'm no longer worried about my ability to keep it off, since i won't be doing anything differently, ever. it's like discovering sanity and realizing what i was doing before wasn't very sane (and certainly wasn't getting me to where i wanted to be.) WELCOME!!

angelmomma210
01-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Morning all...today is a good day. Doing good on the plan. Credit for me...I only ate a little bit of the sweet and sour pork and some rice. Dh was surprised that I left alot there. Ate until I was beginning to feel full and then stopped. Yeah.

RobinW
01-21-2009, 03:44 PM
Just a quickie!!

Yah Bill for navigating your food event!! Big honkin' kudos for not eating piles of ribs!!

Jean thanks for the link Im going to check it out tonight!

:wave: to everyone

Im op and doing good! Have a great day!

AnneWonders
01-21-2009, 09:02 PM
:wave: visual migraine tonight. No pain though. Back tomorrow.

Anne

helping rachel
01-21-2009, 09:09 PM
Hi to all! quick post as well. Ate on plan, still no exercise. Will be working on this.....need to start and then go from there.

R:^:

landlady6
01-22-2009, 02:05 AM
Hi there friends,
I don't have much to say, just having a hard time again. Sigh....

Kuhljeanie: BIG congrats on getting to the 160's!!!! You GO girl-that is my GOAL weight sister! You have come a long way....

Mary: I love your take on Pete Seeger-I was thinking about all those musicians and how FREEZING it was out there...but to be 90 and fit as a fiddle... NICE.

BBE; Love that tamale pie idea-also huge congrats on how you handled your inaug party -a pillar of strength you are!!!

Angelmomma: so glad that the meds seems to be working.. you sound like you are paying attention to your hunger too-love that you are surprising your dh with your new eating habits!

Robin: Keep up your hard work-I feel your energy in your last few posts!

Anne: Sinus infections BITE! I am so sorry-have had a gazillion of them and know how hard it is to "mommy" and everythign else when you feel like crap. I hope you are on the upswing now that you have antibiotics!

Welcome to all the new people!

I am reading everyone's stuff and continue to be inspired. I will be away from my computer on the weekend and maybe beyond. My dd and I were invited to stay in a cabin in the mountains this weekend with friends-lots of skiing, sledding, playing/walking in the snow... we are all planning healthy and deliciuos food...I have jury duty on Mon and Tues so may have lots of access to my computer then but not if I am chosen... PLEASE dont' choose me!!!!I have never had to serve before-always have gotten out of it by being a teacher..not this time.. so I don't know if I will have a lunch break but would love to walk around for a bit to break up the day and get a bit of movement.

BillBlueEyes
01-22-2009, 06:18 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - My doctor declared that I have "Golf elbow" from pushing it. (It would be "Tennis elbow" if the strain were on the outside.) Good news is that it's nothing serious. Bad news is that the treatment consists of slacking off to let it heal itself. Then I have to restart my resistance exercises with VERY small stress and build it back up slowly. Oh Well.

So, I did my gym in a snit. But did my despised lunges and added some of the other stretches that I dislike just because I was in a snit and thought I might as well suffer. CREDIT moi for taking advantage of a bad mood.


Heidi (landlady6) - That weekend in the mountains sounds like heaven - lots of fun fun exercise, DD time, and "healthy and delicious food." What could be better.

Good luck on your jury duty.


Robin (RobinW) - Yay for "op and doing good."

Jean (kuhljeanie) - Yay for a good night's sleep. Neat that you watched the inauguration from the treadmill; you were warmer than some million folks on the Washington Mall (and closer to a bathroom, LOL). Thanks for the neat phrase, "...a strategy that helps your waistline and your karma at the same time."

And Congrats for still being in the 160's.


onebyone - Yay for the planned exercise of a walk to the library. Those can be deadly; may you be able to carry all the books that appeal, LOL.

Anne (wndranne) - Monster Ouch for the migraine. Sending soothing thoughts.

Chris (angelmomma210) - Kudos for leaving food just because you're feeling full. Leaving food on my plate remains an elusive goal for me.

Lily (lilyyoung) - Ouch for being stood up by your doctor. Double Ouch for having to listen to such a lame excuse. But BIG Kudos for a calm response that didn't include eating away your frustration.

Rachel (helping rachel) - Kudos for on plan eating. One of the strategies for getting started (or restarted) on exercise is to plan a very short walk. Then use NO CHOICE to follow that plan. After the first one, it's easier to ratchet up the duration. Good luck.

Lucky Charms - Neat that you were able to find this thread within the 3FC structure, which is easier to understand once you understand it than before, LOL. Sound plan you have there for losing 60 pounds; you can set up a rate that doesn't have much of a bump to switch into maintenance.

And Yay for buying too many books. That's certainly my style; Amazon knows my name.


Readers - "Stage 1
The Success Skills Plan
...
Skill 4: Give yourself credit. (page 66).
..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 50.

davidette
01-22-2009, 08:47 AM
Went out for lunch with friends yesterday. I didn't feel ready; haven't had any length of time to practice the Beck rules at home, much less in challenging situations. No way to check out the menu ahead of time, but I did my best to make a plan (cup soup and one half wrap, no desert) and followed it through! :carrot: Brought the other half of the wrap home and still haven't eaten it. Credit moi! Knowing I would have to confess my sins here if I fell into my usual pattern of "I'm off diet so binge until the next morning" helped tremendously. That and hearing so many instances of y'all beating down those same patterns. Somehow life is throwing all these eating out occasions at me when I don't feel ready, (3 more in the next week, which is very unusual for me). Keep the inspiration coming!

Rachel The key for me getting back to exercise was making a commitment to meet friends at the gym. Any friends or family willing to be your exercise buddy, at least until you've established a pattern? When you see how good you feel afterwards, you'll be enthusiastic about going regularly. Can you make an appointment with a fitness counselor at your local gym? Our Y offers free training sessions and group training also.

anne Thanks for the "desensitization" plan for scale fluctuations; I'm going to try it. It makes sense and I've got nothing to lose except a Thinking Error (and weight)! Rationally I know it's water weight; maybe I can "wear out" my emotional whiplash!

lily :bravo: Handling the temptations of Starbucks on top of the frustation of your exercise doctor's unprofessional actions. And for taking matters into your own hands with books on osteoporosis.

lucky charms Congrats for recognizing what calorie restriction is doable long term for you; it's so tempting to shoot for quick weight loss with unrealistic plans.

kuhljeanie Thanks for taking that one step further with another phrase to remember: i won't be doing anything differently, ever.; emphasizes the "oh well, accept it and move on" thought.

angelmomma Kudos on recognizing when you were full and stopping - just what we are all striving for!

landlady6 Good luck on not being picked for jury duty; what a lot of Beck approved planning: skiing, healthy cabin food and walking on lunch break!

Bill I have to admit, when an instructor cues an exercise I don't like (resistance bands :(), I think "at least it's not lunges!" Kudos on channeling your frustation to a good cause. I had a friend with a strict "don't use it" recommendation from her doctor for a similar elbow injury. She is also an artist, so not only could she not exercise, she couldn't paint, which is very important to her sanity. May this "it could be worse" scenario help with acceptance. By the way, She (and her marriage) survived; she's 100% active now.


Cycling and yoga today, although the house is starting to fall down around me. I can hear the sabotaging thoughts faintly. But I know I won't succeed if I don't make time for this first! :yes:

AnneWonders
01-22-2009, 09:30 AM
Coaches/Buddies Feeling better this morning! At least the migraine didn't come with a headache, but I was having trouble watching moving things. DS was swinging around his arms last night and it just made my head spin. Very weird, these visual migraines. I only get a headache to go with them about 1/3 of the time, so at least I'm fortunate about that.

On plan yesterday. I'm still fighting crud and trying to catch up, AND it's gymnastics day, so I think I'm going to plan to restart exercise tomorrow. Another two weeks just, zip, gone. It is frustrating not to get some building on my running. I keep telling myself that I've got nothing but time when it comes to that, and it does help.

I had a proud parenting moment when my 3yo DD used the word "crap" correctly in a sentence yesterday. Mommy has some work to do. :tape:

onebyone :hug: FWIW, I think you are doing an incredible job of identifying and talking back to your sabotaging thoughts about the picture. Keep talking; repetition works. Also, you sound so down. Have you tried the Beck technique of adding up the tough hours yet? Sometimes what feels overwhelming is actually only a small part of our day, and we can forget that--a big one for me. Yeah, it isn't great to feel cruddy for a couple hours a day, but when we realize it is 24 hrs, hey, instant progress! Hope your diet research at the library paid off.

Bill Nice work on the inauguration party! What possessed you to order up a truckload of tempting BBQ? Balancing the menu with salad and whatnot was very smart, for sure.

Sorry about your "golf elbow." Nice job for using your snit effectively.

Lily I think I would have exploded, and certainly if there wasn't some emergency the doctor was dealing with. I know doctors have important jobs, but my time is valuable too, and I just get massively ticked when they don't even attempt to respect that. I think you dealt with it very well, and certainly better than I would have. Did your exercise include pounding it out on the heavy bag, by any chance?

Lucky Charms Sounds like you have some good thought processes going. I picked a diet pretty early on that I could live with the rest of my life. I credit that with losing the 110 and keeping it off (at least in my non-pregnant state) for 6 years.

Jeanie Our company only has time off, with no designated sick leave. The advantage if you don't tend to get sick is that you have lots of vacation time. The disadvantage, for those of us who do (or have children who do), is that you tend to have no vacation. So lots of people just come to work when they are sick and spread it around. I haven't had a real vacation in 10 years.

WTG on listening to your body and walking on the treadmill.

Chris Nice work on stopping when you were full! I have trouble with that as well!

Robin :high: for on plan! (I knew there had to be a smilie for that!)

Rachel I second the recommendation to do small steps on the exercise. I think CBDL makes the point that 5 minutes is better than zero, a concept I'm still embracing. Good job for eating on plan!

Heidi Keeping hanging in there! Sounds like you have a great weekend lined up with lots of fun, exercise and wonderful food. Thanks for doing your civic duty, and hope you don't get picked for any long trials.

davidette :high: on the restaurant. You did the best any of us can ever do in a lot of circumstances. Now that you've done one successfully, you can remind yourself of that, and how great you felt afterward, at the next three. I figure my house is held up by the piles of junk, so better not touch 'em, LOL!

Have a good day everyone!

Anne

P.S. I'm halfway to goal #3, so I went ahead and ordered my reward, a book. I pledge not to open it until the scale reads 198.

RobinW
01-22-2009, 12:17 PM
Good Morning :coffee:

I have to say this quiet time at the shop has birthed some awesome ideas!! Im so excited about what we have going on!! The vendors are full for our event....and I am heading back to our venue to see about adding more tables without cluttering up the space! Very Exciting! Then yesterday at one of my meetings I introduced a new fundraising program for schools/churches/daycares etc, and within an hour after the meeting I had received a referral that wants to go ahead with it!! Exciting stuff!!

Well today is day 21 of my 21 day challenge. It certainly wasnt a raging success like the first one. BUT I ate op all 21 days, exercised a bit less than 1/2 the time. So that exercise habit hasnt been ingrained yet.

Eating on plan is getting easier tho. I didnt have to think last night at the restaurant, I ordered my burger bunless and had broccoli instead of the fries and it was pretty darn tastey too! :D

Tomorrow will start another 21 days for me. Eating op and exercise at least 15 of the 21 days. This might be more doable for me.

I didnt get on the scale this morning, because I was just on it on Monday. But things are looking UP!!! (or down :lol: ) depending on how your look at it. My cloths are so much bigger. Even the shirts I wear to work everyday are looking a bit pathetic. I'll live with it tho, because I can layer lots of stuff underneath the sweaters and it doesnt look at all like Ive added any bulk :rofl:

I dug out the pants I want to wear to our event in March. They are just a tad snug. So by the end of march they should drape quite nicely. The matching silk paisley blouse is also part of the plan....but I may not be able to pull that one off. That one has peek-a-boob issues ;) It will all depend on where my body decides to shed the weight.

Im excited! Im excited and so very very thankful for how well things are working out. Im feeling good and in control of my food issues. Certainly makes alot more room in my head for more important things! I also wanted to mention the use of this board and a live diet coach. I had a few very stressful moments a while back. I sat down with my hubby and told him I needed to talk to him. Just to tell him what was going on in my head, and how this stuff sends me to food. At the same time I was posting here about my issues, and the support that came from everyone here was wonderful. Hubby was wonderful, he didnt know what to say or what to do. But he didnt judge, and understood my struggle. You all may not know all the details, but you didnt ask for them.....just offered your support. Thank you all very much! I am seeing the incredible importance of having a support system in place. If you are struggling, think about this and the people in your life that are there to help. Take advantage of it, we are here because we care. :hug:

Bill~ you did a good job putting your snit to good use! If you are interested I have a colleague that specializes in sports injuries, and ergonomic consulting. This is the type of thing she can help with. Let me know and I'll pm her info to you.

landlady~ :crossed: so you dont get chosen!! Im sorry you are having a hard time. Have you tried going back and rereading some of your favourite parts of the book? I have about 20 sticky notes (maybe more) attached to all my favourite pages that I go back and read when Im feeling like I dont deserve this, or I cant do it, or just a plain ole "why me". Most important tho, keep posting here.....it will help you with your struggle.

davidette~ Awesome Job!! Big Kudos!! :bravo: That was one of my biggest hurdles too!! I fell off plan so why not pig out until the next morning! Do that a couple more times, and you will feel peaceful about it. Its a pretty cool feeling!!

onebyone~ :hug: I wish there was more I could do for you.

Anne~ Oh, yuck for the visual migrane. I had to google that one, I had never heard of it. Dontcha just love it when your words come out of your little kidlets :lol: My daughter was about 2 1/2 and was telling her little friend at a playdate that what she was doing was "inappropriate behaviour" but it sounded more like "imapoopiate behaviour". She was yelling it for all she was worth too :lol:

Jean~ I didnt get a chance to check your link.......but I will :)

Have a great day everyone!

kuhljeanie
01-22-2009, 01:55 PM
morning all,

having a bit of a rough time at work. my client is going through a "transition" with IT, and i was told yesterday that my contract is considered discretionary. basically, i'm billing only 50% and my contract could be cancelled at any time. i've been a consultant for many, many years, and it's part of the gig. i'm not out of a job or anything, but i've been here since i returned from maternity leave and i really like it. the people i work with, the respect with which i've been treated, the super interesting work i've been doing, not to mention the wonderful yoga and free use of the company gym...(sigh)...i don't know what the future will look like, but it will surely require changes in my schedule and routine. for all i know it might be better, but i don't know. i can't imagine that i'd lose my job over it, but it certainly doesn't help my standing and it's the worst possible time for it. i realize that there's no point in worrying about something that hasn't happened, but somehow that doesn't make me feel better. i guess the good news is that i have no inclination to eat over it. i kind of don't know what would make me feel better. exercise is great but the effects don't last very long. time will tell, i guess. i'm also dragging because el nino had another rough night. i wish i knew what the !#*@ was up with him.

yesterday's workout was annoying - the power went out, so i had to use an elliptical to mimic a HIIT run. doesn't quite do it. hopefully today will be a good, productive hill workout. yoga seemed a little easier than usual. making good progress on the bistro replacement project - tried cooking sous vide for the first time last night. will know how it turned out in about 20 minutes. :)

heidi, your trip sounds wonderful. can i come too??? and bill, mazel tov on snitty lunging. what a great way to channel irritation! davidette, agreed - ignore the still, small voice telling you to do laundry. it'll shut up eventually. :) anne, so glad that your migraine didn't come with headaches. i get the full-blown ones. i can imagine how icky it would be to get the eye stuff by itself - but that's definitely something to be grateful for (that you don't get the intense pain with it.) looking forward to the day my own DS correctly uses the blue language my DH occasionally uses when he forgets that DS repeats every word we say. fortunately, i never slip around my little angel :rofl:and robin, you GO, girl! it's a fabulous place to be, isn't it? send some happy dust my way. :)

helping rachel
01-22-2009, 06:55 PM
Diet Coaches/buddies:[B]
Had another great day of staying on plan. Thanks for all the encouragment about starting to exercise. I have made a committment to go to the gym tonight with my daughter. Tomorrow is Fat Friday at work. Each Friday we have two teachers bring in a wide array of foods to munch on. I am writing out my thoughts on this as I don't want to consider it a reward anymore. I will pack my own veggies and have a few other items to help with the temptations.

[B]Jeanie: I love the fact that you are finding a practical alternative to your bistro meals. I wish you the best and hope you continue to be inspired!
RobinLove the idea of having 21 challenges. I fully agree with you on the importance of s support cast of characters to help with the head and body changes.

AnneLoved your DD story. I have 3 kids and have many to go with that...my favorite being my son saying some choice words in kindergarten and then saying my daddy say that when he has power tools in his hands!

Davidettethanks for your encouragement to me about exercising and sharing that about you eating out plan. Good job! i have heard that just cause one egg breaks you don;t go and break the other 11. I love that Beck calls them mistakes not cheats......(really changed my brain on that one.

Lily Love, Love your ideas on how to treat yourself nice without high cal foods. Been pondering that myself....great job on keeping things in line
Lucky Charms Welcome to a great support group, I am totally new as well
Chris Good job on stopping and leaving food! That is a challenge.

Well have to stop and run some kids to appointments. Hi to everyone else and will check in later

Rachel:dizzy:

maryblu
01-22-2009, 11:27 PM
OMG, I can't believe what has happened to our team! It has exploded. Granted, Beck has a new book, is a credible, step-by-step-gaining-credibility-every-day, but the fact is, it can't be said enough.....

THANK YOU, BillBE! Thank you. You are the one constant to this entire effort. It can't be said enough. I think back to the old days......just a few of us, and you bought in, and just stepped up and have never waivered, never failed...I don't think you have missed a day since you committed to this thread..even on work travels, etc......you found a way to check in and call us all to action. YOu have led. Thank you.

I never have been able to get my arms around personals that respond to everyone. I console myself with the fact that you all speak to me at some point, and when it so clearly speaks to me, and calls me, and is so TRUE for me, I can at least respond to that. All I have to give is that the effort is worth it, takes a lot of commitment, as is evidenced on the maintainers thread, but is better laid out as a plan of action, step by step, HERE, with the Beck Blueprint than anywhere else. I am now more than 6 yrs. in this effort, and it is worth it EVERY DAY!.....(and I am no where NEAR as good at it as BillBE!!)

I so love our team.....and the "A" type personalities.........I think Beck especially appeals to us.......and speaking of that, wndranne.....OMG

[I]"davidette I got the scales to have less power over me by weighing myself something like every hour for a week. It sounds pretty obsessive, but I got to know how much my clothes weighed, how much I weighed before and after lunch, before and after working out, what variation I got from different scales and what not. After seeing as much as a 10 lb difference in a single day, I find it hard to get really worked up over small day-to-day fluctuations. It is the longer term trends that I watch now."

Pretty obsessive? Not so much. Pretty damned determined, you betcha! LOVE it!!!! Kudos, would never have thought of that. I think you should be on the think tank to "fix" the economy.

Landlady6, it will be interesting if you end up on Jury Duty. Have always been able to make the case for "I have to work" but it would be fascinating, wouldn't it?

lilyyoung
01-23-2009, 12:20 AM
anne,I think I may have visual migraines. A large flashing multicolored orb in my field of vision a few months ago sent me running to an opthalmologist and a neurologist. I have no clear answer as to what it was, but I had an MRI of my brain and a lot of blood tests. What do your symptoms look like? And I hope you continue to feel better!
Robin, kudos on the weight loss! I hope the event goes well--I'd love to know more about your business. Yay for bunless burgers and broccali!! And good for you for loose clothes. (I liked peek a boob--I've had that problem too with clothes when my weight changes.)
Jean, congrats on the 160's! Good for you with the exercise, too bad about the uncomfortable side effects.:o
davidette,kudo's on exercising. I made a card from CBDFL, "my weight isn't who I am. It isn't a measure of my worth. It's just a number that tells me important information." How my self-esteem has suffered throughout life from those "bad" weigh in's. The scale definitely has had a lot of power over me, you are not alone...
rachel, good for you for sticking with this group!
Lucky Charms, kudos for you for getting all three books! The slow weight loss ideas sounds great, enjoy every day and the learning it brings.
one by one,hang in there! Kudos for exercising. Don't let the photos have so much power over you. These days, photos are more or less forgotten as soon as people have seen them once! I wouldn't make any goals around the photos at all. Lose weight when you are ready in a way that works for you.
angelmomma, good for you for being on plan!
landlady, enjoy the great weekend plan!
Bill, sorry about the golf elbow, kudos on sticking with the exercise. I am exhausting myself thinking about exercise, but haven't done it much!

I just realized something. When I am on this board typing I'm not eating or planning to eat!! :D So that's how this support group works!!! (Unfortunately I'm not exercising either. Oh well.)

AnneWonders
01-23-2009, 12:38 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies I'd like to say I had an on plan day, but with everything last night, I forgot to make a plan for today. But the day was predictable and I was right where I wanted to be. I have my plan for tomorrow. I got a pass on today's plan because of the migraine.

Tomorrow I'm off work and the kids are in daycare. I have a massage scheduled. Meeting a friend for lunch. And I get to make a vat of mud for DD's science party on Saturday night (yeah, we won't be starring in a beer commercial any time soon, heh). Oh, yeah, and I'm gonna run, Run, RUN!! I am SO HOPING that DS doesn't spike another fever.

RobinW It is so nice to hear how excited you are with all the progress you are making! You are working so hard for it, and it is paying off for you.

Migraines are so weird. My sister gets them and instead of a headache, her arms and/or legs go numb. That was a tough diagnosis for her doctors, with scary things like MS getting tossed around before they finally found out what it was. "Fortunately" I get a headache with mine often enough, and almost always with the same visual symptoms that I knew what was happening.

LOL on your DD's "inappropriate behavior." My DD is very familiar with the word "cooperate." People comment on it.

Jean I hope your employment situation gets settled before long. The uncertainty must be stressful, and that isn't helped any when el nino (and you) aren't sleeping.

Rachel At least you can blame your DD's father (your DH?) for the language! Unfortunately, it's all me in this house.

Sounds like your Fat Friday planning is going well. In addition to planning, I'll often visualize myself making good choices, and feeling happy and in control about that. I find it helps if I've "practiced."

maryblu Ah, clearly you haven't reached the depths of scale worship as I have. The only economy I have a hope of fixing is Amazon's, as I am now a line item on their income statement, LOL! Curse the one click prime shipping. It is the shopper's equivalent of Reese's PB Cups.

I would love to hear your 6 year story sometime!

Anne

AnneWonders
01-23-2009, 12:54 AM
Lily, crosspost!

Visual migraines are strange for me. Last night, it "hurt" to look at moving objects. One time I looked at a piece of graph paper and could see the horizontal lines, but not the vertical ones. I often develop holes in my vision, blind spots or areas. Sometimes there is a sense that things just look wrong, and not in a way I can describe (the vertical line thing may have been like this had the graph paper not been around). I don't recall having one that involved colors or flashing, but I could just be forgetting, and it wouldn't surprise me, although I do tend to lose "real" images (or some component of it) rather than see something that isn't. I also have the sense/awareness that the images and/or data are still there in my brain, but I'm not processing them in a way that makes sense. This all started for me, or at least rose to my level of awareness, in my mid 20s, and I probably get one now every 2-4 months.

I have to pay attention because once it starts, I have about 45 min of useful vision before it gets bad, and I usually like to get myself home so I'm not trapped somewhere unable to drive. I also usually feel a little spacey, unless I get a headache with it, and then I just feel awful, pounding pain, almost always one-sided. The episodes usually start mid to late morning and are finished by 6 pm, although there are exceptions to that, like last night.

I actually find this all fascinating. And I'm aware that I have the luxury of fascination because I'm fortunate not to have pain most of the time. I have a friend who has BAD migraines, every couple weeks, and I've seen how bad it can get.

I hope you get a good diagnosis. Brain malfunctions are scary.

Anne

BillBlueEyes
01-23-2009, 07:06 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Had to confront, again, good dark chocolates passed around during a meeting. I passed. CREDIT moi. Am not too pleased that this might become a weekly thing.

I'm annoyed with myself that I let a small schedule change mess up my after work walk. I stayed at the office later than I had planned so that when I got home, taking a walk would mean that I'd miss dinner with DW who was going out. So I skipped it. In the early days of my Healthy Journey, I'd have done the walk without question. So, I have some work to do. Oh Well.


maryblu - Kudos for six years on your healthy journey. It's so good for me to be reminded that long term is possible, and to be reminded that it still takes effort. And thank you for all the kind words.

Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for completing your second 21 day challenge. And Congrats for all your clothes fitting victories. I'm just loving how upbeat your postings are; you're single handedly lifting the spirits of this thread.

Thanks for the offer of the sports injury consultant. Yes, I suspect I could use help to get out of my snit and thinking sanely about this.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Ouch for the job status uncertainty; that uncertainty part is such a bummer. Big Kudos for not being drawn to eating to smother the feelings.

Can't wait to hear the results of cooking sous vide. Methinks part of the reason that sous vide appeals to me is that I have no idea what recipes mean when they say "now reduce the flame to medium high."


onebyone - Waving. Sending resolution thoughts to all parties in the transportation strike.

Anne (wndranne) - Glad you're feeling better. Thanks for the description of visual migraine - I didn't know about that. Easy to imagine that's a hard condition to diagnose if you're not aware of it.

LOL at "What possessed you to order up a truckload of tempting BBQ?" Yep, not so swift to bring it in the house and then try to avoid it. The family crowd had collectively set their hearts on this particular take-out; all five had ganged up on me. For whatever reason it just wasn't to be a grilled salmon night.

And LOL at the repercussions of your DD's use of "crap." Reminds me that my DS once properly referred to a dog's 'anus' causing his nursery school teacher to ever after think of him as a genius, his mother to be proud of having used proper names around him, and me to be mortified at the thought of him in middle school having to ask a buddy what an 'a**hole' was.


Lily (lilyyoung) - LOL at the thought of exhausting yourself thinking about exercising. Keep it up; the exercise is wiggling about in there wanting to be released. You'll get there.

davidette - Kudos for such a good solution to the unknown restaurant situation. And Kudos for not having eaten the other half of the wrap already. It's not unknown for someone to nobly bring home half of a restaurant dish then wolf it down before they go to bed, LOL.

Thanks for the "it could be worse" scenario. It certainly won't do for me to feel sorry for myself.


Rachel (helping rachel) - Ouch for "Fat Friday." Whatever it means, it certainly doesn't sound like Healthy Friday, LOL. Yay for plans to go to the gym with your DD; hope that worked out.


Readers - "Stage 1
The Success Skills Plan
...
Skill 5: Get Moving. (page 69).
..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 50.

davidette
01-23-2009, 08:36 AM
onebyone Lily is absolutely right, people look at a group shot, find themselves, and throw it in a drawer. It's like a blemish on your face, no one notices it but you. I've used a picture taking event as a goal before, and it never has worked, so I resolve right now to cut it out. Just creates anxiety we don't need.

robin Wow :carrot: 21 days on plan! Struggling here on day 5 so I can really appreciate your accomplishment. Glad to hear it's gets easier. Wear your loose clothes like a badge of honor! Hearing the joy you are experiencing with your success is so motivating!

kuhljeanie Sorry to hear about the employment uncertainty. :( Worrying, or struggling not to worry, takes so much energy. It will all work out for the best, in the long run. Workouts really help with stress relief, don't they? Especially the "enforced" peacefulness of yoga.

rachel Congrats for making a gym commitment and planning a way out of a "fat friday" disaster with your own treats. I love the egg breaking image; visual concepts are more likely to pop in my head when I need them.

Anne Your visual migraines do sound fascinating; although of course I'm sorry you have to deal with them. Have you read "My stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte-Taylor? If you are interested in how the brain processes information you would like it. Actually there are a few short videos of her on the web that give you an idea of the book's theme and tone; slightly comical, very upbeat, given she (a neuroscientist herself) is talking about having a stroke.

Wrench in the works today; mom's heat is off. Somehow I feel guilty lounging in a hot tub after a vigorous heated pool class while she lies huddled in bed under blankets. I'm off to buy portable heaters, does that count as spontaneous exercise? This cancels my lunch out so that could be considered a lucky break from temptation. Maybe I'll plug my treadmill in and see if it still works, it's functioned as a clothes rack for the last 5 years!

davidette
01-23-2009, 09:11 AM
Oops, forgot - call for help: I've been assigned to bring the desert for a lunch on Monday. (How cruel is that? :lol:) The suggestion was choc. chip cookies :yikes: Does anyone have any suggestions or a recipe for something similar that won't disappoint the group OR ruin any hope of an on-plan day? I'm thinking of searching at allrecipes.com but any advice would be appreciated. :thanks:

onebyone
01-23-2009, 09:23 AM
Good Morning Coaches

Well things are feeling lighter today. My library trip was a success and I came out of there with a foodplan that meets my criteria of not too many rules but I need some and I do not want to eliminate whole food groups and DH must be able to participate and it must be basically how I would eat FOREVER...hence the need for a basic amount of variety. I read about the G.I. diet (glycemic index) at the library and then when my lift home dropped me off at the mall I went to the bookstore and picked up The g.i. diet EXPRESS for Busy People (with 50 speedy recipes)
Is this me or is it not me?
Hello?

And so today, even though I loathe to do it I am taking a cab. I don't like taking cabs...resent the $, but am thanking my stars that there are cabs and this enables me to do what I need to do. I am off to the grocery store, part of a strip mall with my art store in it, and across the street from my bank where I also need to go so I can kill 3 birds with one stone AND stock the pantry with good food AND bring home a special treat for DH for being smart enough to figure out a way to make enough $ to cover my school costs, give me $ to cover credit card payments, enough $ for groceries and cab fare. That deserves special treatment. Oh and on top of this bounty we are going to the movies today and I'll use the points I have on my local movie points card to get us in free. We are seeing Frost/Nixon. I am SOOOO looking forward to it.

As for the on-going transit strike, nothing's happening. No change. I seem to be okay with it after my meltdown precipitated by the hope that it would end. that's gone now. The city has allocated 500K to be dispursed by community centeres for low income folks trying to get back and forth to work (low wages= all your money for daily cabs ... many people have lost their jobs already) for taxi chits and for housing $ and food $ if they are spending everything they have on transportation. They put 200K into emergency funds on Jan 9 and it was gone in 10 days. Now the aforementioned 500K. So many many way way worse off than me. BUT I have decided to put my frustrations into my art and my first apprenticeship special project (for those who don't know I am a 3rd year art student about to graduate this spring) of this term (I am doing printmaking as opposed to the book binding I did last term) is a series of linoleum block prints about the bus strike. I just starting cutting Mayor Larry O'Brien from the lino block. Oh what emotion he calls up in this town! I will do some scenes from the strike and also the head of the transit union, as equally reviled as Mayor Larry, and then this led me to thinking I could do a series of Mayor Larry portraits later on (I've attached his mayoral portrait picture). And/or some portraits of people we love to hate. Oh...so exciting for me! So I think because I found a foodplan and because I found a solid direction for my most important school project I am feeling better/lighter.

yay!:carrot: credit moi for slogging through to the other side.

I've got to get it together to leave for the store soon so I'll sign off for now but will be back for personals later. :hug: to all who read this.

onebyone
01-23-2009, 09:45 AM
Oops, forgot - call for help: I've been assigned to bring the desert for a lunch on Monday. (How cruel is that? :lol:) The suggestion was choc. chip cookies :yikes: Does anyone have any suggestions or a recipe for something similar that won't disappoint the group OR ruin any hope of an on-plan day? I'm thinking of searching at allrecipes.com but any advice would be appreciated. :thanks:

http://www.recipezaar.com/Hgs-So-Good-Chocolate-Chip-Softies-Ww-Points-1-330157

I thought I'd poke around on the net and found the above recipe. Many of the sugars are substituted and the fat count is really low too. I guess since I don't know what's on your plan to begin with, I don't know what constitutes you being off plan..? I would opt for bringing the healthiest version of the request and if it still ain't for you, bring something that is for you. Or get someone else to make it. Or just make what you can have. If they are unhappy with it, they'll ask someone else next time and you won't have to do this again! Good luck!

kuhljeanie
01-23-2009, 12:11 PM
hey everyone,

feeling a little better today. i told DH my troubles, and realized while i was talking that my anxiety has more to do with not knowing how i'm going to schedule regular exercise if i can't do it at work, than in being on the bench for a week or two, or going to a new client. that's kind of crazy, huh? he's wonderful - helped me figure out what's really the problem, told me that we could just buy a treadmill to make it easier. i LOVE him. a lot.

had a little beckie "a-ha" moment last night. after dinner i was hungry, and still had 200 cals left for the day. lovely! so i thought i'd try a new protein bar that came in the last shipment of snacks. it was 430 calories, so i cut it in half. i was just about to put it in my mouth, when i realized that it didn't look all that appealing, and i didn't want THAT to be my 200 calories. i could do better. so i put it in a ziplog bag and got one of my protein cookies instead, which i love, and which are only 150 calories. it's just a small thing, but i'm paying more attention to only eating what i REALLY want instead of what's there. it won't kill me either if no one eats those bars (i only bought 2) and we end up dumping them. no big deal.

also, the next time i say that exercise isn't that effective a mood lifter because the results don't last very long, can someone give me a cyber bonk on the head? exercise is a PRIMO mood lifter. i felt about a million times better after working out last night. makes me even more excited about the possibility of getting a good treadmill for home.

rachel, i second everyone giving you a huge thumbs up for "practicing" what you're going to do for fat friday. have a great time at the gym! i was thinking about you today when i went to the break area and someone had left three cartons of swiss chocolate truffles for the taking. had that moment of, em, consideration, and then thought back to the yummy stuff i'd brought for myself. turned and left. thanks for the inspiration - can't wait to hear how it goes! mary, i hadn't considered the particular appeal of beck to a-types, but am thinking about it now, and i CAN'T BELIEVE i never noticed it before! because, seriously, how a-type are most of us? with the personals, yeah, it's time-consuming, and sometimes i'm just not up to it either. hoping i think my responses loudly enough for people to hear. :) i'm also incredibly appreciative of bill's consistency and commitment too. i've come to depend on his posts and (no pressure, bill) would feel off-kilter if he missed a day or a personal (even though i do it ALL THE TIME.) anne, how absolutely marvelous that you were able to stay "OP" even without a formal plan. maybe that's how "naturally" thin people stay thin, huh? :) sorry to hear that you get the painy migraines too. they just SUCK, don't they? i don't get them as often as your friend, but there haven't been many times in my life outside migraines when a bullet to the head sounded like a reasonable alternative to pain (childbirth comes to mind.) and bill, big ole mazel tov on passing up the dark chocolate. do you have it in your plan once in a while so you don't feel like you go without? i'm actually thinking that a weekly thing would be wonderful - a regular opportunity to practice saying no, and getting to experience that fabulous smug feeling that comes from turning down sweets. and the sous vide chicken came out AMAZING, absolutely wonderful. i just want to vacuum and (gently) poach the **** out of everything now - proteins, veggies, am wondering what it would do to apples and pears too. before this is over, i may just have a new business for myself. :) thanks davidette! i'm trying to figure out how to continue yoga when i'm not here anymore. i've got a massive girl crush on my yoga teacher. unfortunately she teaches in cincinnati, and i live in dayton. when i'm commuting to cincy for work and she teaches here, it's easy. not sure how to continue when it's a major hassle. i'll figure something out, though. just like replacing my bistro meals because it's getting too expensive, i'll find a way to continue with her. my dessert suggestion: while you can make lower fat and calorie cookies (my 'truffles' are macerated dates and almonds, rolled in cocoa and coconut flakes) a pretty safe bet for me is merengue, fruit, and some sort of cream (there's always fat-free coolwhip, but you can also use neufchatel or reduced-fat cream cheese with a sweetener like agave, honey, or actual sugar, which isn't a problem for me in small quantities.) or angelfood cake layered with fresh berries and mango sorbet. DH thought that one up, and it's a WINNER. camilla saulsbry (http://www.camillacooks.com/) has some fantastic healthy dessert recipes too. i have a couple of her books (tho it doesn't sound like you have time to order a book first.) onebyone, can't wait to hear more about your busy-people diet! i'm selfishly hoping to nab some of the recipes for my own little project. and what a deliciously fascinating idea, doing prints of people who are so despised. there's just a wealth of possibility there!

RobinW
01-23-2009, 01:41 PM
Good Afternoon everyone! :)

lily~ isnt strange how certain body parts shrink out of sink compaired to the rest of us? This particular blouse is my absolute favourite (I very rarely even wear blouses) The will fit everywhere except "right there". Im ok if I wear a minimizer usually. We'll see. As for our business, my husband and I run a sign and custom print apparel shop. Things are slow right now so Ive put together a networking event....hopefully this will spawn some orders from the vendors.

Anne~ Enjoy your massage and lunch with a friend. That sounds wonderful!!

davidette~ I had to laugh at your treadmill being a clothing rack for 5 yrs!! Mine spontaneously turns into a rack of sorts too. Ive managed to get blankets off of it this time and actually use it once or twice a week :lol:

I hope your mom's heat gets back on soon....this sure isnt the weather for that kind of thing.

As for the dessert assignment. I would try to switch with someone. I would probably tell people that I didnt really have time and would bring a bag of chips ahoy unless they give me something else to bring. (Id back out of bread too) :lol: ........or bring something you dont like? Aside from that, I have a buttertart square recipe that is super simple, and everyone just loves them. Especially here in the states, folks aren't familiar with the butter tart concept. I had one guy call them "The FatMan's Dream Squares" :lol: pm your email to me if you are interested and I'll forward it.

Bill~ even tho you missed your walk, I think its very sweet that you wanted to have dinner with your mrs. Im sure she appreciated it very much, even if she didnt say anything about it. I'd chalk this one up to an Oh Well, but with a smile on your face because it's ok :)

onebyone~ Im very interested to hear if this works for you. AND the recipes!!

I still cant get over the fact that the capitol of Canada cannot get its transit system up and running!! They should be ashamed of themselves! When you were talking about it, I thought maybe it was a smaller town issue, not Ottawa! If this was to happen in toronto for this length of time, there would be rioting in the streets!

jean~ hubbies are wonderful things arent they!! :lol: Great job on your ah-ha moment! I love it when stuff like that happens.

rachel~ Fat Friday? ....train your brain to think of it as Get Fat Friday? Eating that stuff doesnt get you where you want to be, so it certainly isnt a treat :) I think you are going about dealing with it wonderfully!

Something I have been struggling with the last week or 2.
I have not been eating enough. I also have not been hungry!
So....Im paying attention to my body signals, knowing when Im hungry, and when Im just wanting something, or the smell of something has me looking for food.

What I have been doing is making up a bowl of oatmeal with apples in it and eating it fairly late at night. Simply because Im not hungry.

Here is the problem. I have worked very hard to stop my nighttime eating. If I eat around 6pm-ish, Im good all night without any issues at all. But when I look at my food diary at the end of the day I notice Im lacking sometimes by almost 40% my alloted totals.

Then last night I noticed I was only 1/2 way to my total :eek: Im thinking, Ok I'll have some oatmeal, add some stuff in it to pump up the calorie count. I had everything out and was going to get started. But I stopped. It was 9pm and I WAS NOT hungry! I didnt really want it....it sounded tastey and it would have been really good. This started an inner dialogue.
"well I want it"
"but your not hungry"
"ya but you are not eating enough and you dont want this to backfire"
"so what, Im NOT hungry"
"so when will I be able to eat this"
"some other time, you arent hungry"

everything got put away and I went off with very mixed feelings about this.

You will remember that I read "Why can't I stop Eating" This has been a wonderful book for me. I tend to stick to my 3 meals and thats it!! Keeps me from thinking about food all day. I rarely have a need for a snack, when I do I'll grab a piece of cheese.

My lack of calories is messing with my plan. Ive added more calories in fats, but that isnt the greatest either. I dont eat a "real" breakfast because Ive always hated eating so early in the morning, I have my protein shake which is 220 calories and 1 oz cheddar.

Im rambling....but what I am looking for is foods that are a bit higher in calories but are not too fatty or too filling.

Today I brought with me a no-sugar peach cup, 1/2 turkey sandwich and my curry soup(which is all veggies and chicken) The 1/2 turkey sandwich is an extra to try to get more calories in. But I couldnt eat it with my soup because Im full now.

Its a dilemma........any thoughts?

If anyone is interested I received an attachment last night from a friend that is chock full of crockpot recipes! If you want me to pass it on to you, pm me your email and I'll send it to you.

Keepin' on Keeping on! Have a great day everyone.

Ann72
01-23-2009, 04:04 PM
Hi there. I'm new to this thread. Over the last few months, I kept hearing/reading about the new Beck book and decided to do some further investigation. I spent some time reading up on it on their site (and on some of the links on their site). A few days ago, I saw the book staring me right in the face as soon as I walked in the door at Barnes and Noble. I decided to buy it.

It seems to be just what I need. I am a long time yo yo dieter (started first diet at 11 and I'm now 36). I've spent years either losing weight or gaining it back. I know that I need some help to stop the madness of the gaining/losing cycle. I want a program that is doable for the long term and that will help me to lose the weight once and for all.

I can say that I'm finally ready to accept the fact that healthy, long lasting weight loss will take time. It is always my instinct to jump into a plan quickly and stop if I don't drop a lot of weight quickly. This time, I'm going to try to take it slowly and keep my eye on the long term goal of permanently changing behavior.

I just bought The Complete Beck Diet for Life book and I'm reading through the early pages of it. I plan to go out tomorrow and buy the notebook, index cards, boxes, etc that she recommends. I'm following her advice and not jumping right into the food part. I plan to concentrate on Stage 1 and try to master the success skills before moving onto the food plan. I plan to use the skills sheets to track how I'm doing with those success skills.

I have to admit that it does seem overwhelming when I look at all of the things that she recommends, but I keep reminding myself to just take it bit by bit. There's no rush. It isn't a race. I've spent most of my life overweight, so what difference does it make if it takes me years to lose it if I'm doing it the right way.

Anyway, I'd love some diet buddies to help me along and to correspond with each day.

Other than that, I'm 36, married with a 2-year-old, and like everyone else, I struggle to balance it all--family, home, work, self. Self is usually what gets dropped off the list of priorities, but I'm working on it.

Best wishes,
Ann

LisaMarie71
01-23-2009, 07:49 PM
I'd like to join in as well. I bought The Complete Beck Diet for Life today and am making my way through the first sections.

I already know Anne (wndranne) :) but for the rest of you, here's a little background. From 06 to 07 I lost 110 pounds and got to my goal weight of 165 (I'm 5'9"). I also became a runner and was particularly interested in long distance running. Immediately upon reaching my goal, however, I got pregnant! I was excited, because after 15 years of marriage I could finally become a mother. In all the excitement, I pretty much ate everything in sight while I was pregnant! I gained about 80 pounds with the pregnancy. Now the baby is 5 1/2 months old and I STILL can't get it together. I can't run more than a mile (and I used to do weekly runs of 10+ miles!) and I haven't even attempted to run in 2 months. I get no exercise now and my eating is out of control. I lost weight by counting WW points (though I didn't go to meetings) so I'm used to calorie-counting, but I need a healthier diet.

It does seem like a lot of work to do the cognitive therapy and work on the skills, but I have to do it. I need to get this weight off again and KEEP it off, so I need the skills to maintain my weight loss for the rest of my life. I want to be able to run again and to be a healthy mom for my little boy. I'm 37 years old -- I don't want to start my 40s unhealthy and unfit! I'm at about 225 now, so I need to lose about 60 pounds to reach my former goal, but I'd be fine with losing 10 pounds at this point!

After reading more of the book, I'll try to catch up on reading this thread!

helping rachel
01-23-2009, 08:59 PM
Jeanie wrote:

also, the next time i say that exercise isn't that effective a mood lifter because the results don't last very long, can someone give me a cyber bonk on the head? exercise is a PRIMO mood lifter. i felt about a million times better after working out last night. makes me even more excited about the possibility of getting a good treadmill for home.

Love this insight, I was looking for the cyber cattle prodder to give to a zap or may the "beck's cyber clue phone....trying to answer that to new ways of thinking.:)

Welcome LisaMarie What inspiration to reach your goal and your focus to do it again. I believe you can do it again...glad you found this group...I joke that I am trying to lose my baby weight except he graduates this May....On a more a serious note, I had a hysterectomy 3 years ago and totally let myself go...I am trying to get things back under control. I would like to lose 25lbs, and not regain,lose,regain,lose....I have had a hard time and know that this way of changing my thinking is already working.

Anne welcome! Glad you found this safe place. It sounds like the Beck book was waiting for you:^: I am with your thoughts...take it slow, bit by bit....Lots to learn, put in action and only so much we can digest in one day.

Robin I love your thinking on Get Fat Friday....I was doing just that in the past and today I packed a my own snacks and didn't even have a bite, lick or taste. They even sent me out to buy Jimmy john's and everyone was shocked that I didn;t pass on my op food for JJ's. Last Friday I would have.
Credit me.....

Confession: I didn't work out last night. I am finding that my resistance is an energy thing. I cleaned the garage out, got the snow blower up and working, took several boxes to the attic and did 3 loads of laundry. I have to give myself credit for moving my body but need to write out the advantages to exercise and some of my mind roadblocks.
One by one Great job on deciding on a food plan... Don't you just love the confirmation of your decision when you found a great book to support your decision.
Davidette I feel for you with your decision on what to bring. My suggestion would be sf chocolate pudding, sfvanilla pudding layered with angel food cake...Don't know if that would fit your plan as we all are on different plans

Have to everyone else that I might have missed...Glad you are part of the group and I wish you continued success with your lifestyle changes.:hug:

QuilterInVA
01-23-2009, 10:09 PM
Good evening, fellow Beckies. I read your postings but have been having issues with depression again and just feel exhausted all the time. Food wise, I have not been doing well with my plan, I know I'll have a gain this week when I weight in at Weight Watchers tomorrow morning. I know this always happens when I don't plan my meals in advance so it not the programs fault, just lack of planning on my part. On the plus side, I have been to Curves 5 times this week so at least I'm doing something right. The doctor changed my medications yesterday so hopefully I'll be getting things back together again over the next few weeks. I think I'll begin with Day 1 in the Workbook and read Part I in the Diet for Life and get my focus back.

AnneWonders
01-23-2009, 11:18 PM
Buddies/Coaches Another decent day for me. Not quite on plan since I got busy this afternoon and missed a snack, but still reasonable. I've noticed I'm reading my Response Cards in a sort of hit or miss fashion lately, and I feel like I still need to step that up. Tough times will come and I need to be in the habit. I'm feeling well enough today that I got in a nice run, or whatever run/walk is passing for a run for me these days. Here's to unimpeded breathing!!

Tomorrow I become a soccer mom, as DD starts Itty Bitty Sports at the Y. Weep for me, if you will. Let's hope she doesn't cuss anybody out on her first day. :)

My reward book came today and is taunting me. Pretty good motivation for losing the last 2 pounds so I can crack the package in good conscience.

Bill You are so off the hook with those chocolates now, because they no longer meet your unusual or special exceptions. Saved! I think connecting with your DW was probably worth skipping a walk, speaking as a DW whose DH is working away on his computer right now.

LOL, somehow I'm guessing your DS got a proper education in some of the rougher points of colloquial English before hitting middle school!

davidette I have heard of Stroke of Insight before. I should probably pick it up. Unfortunately strokes run in the family (grandmother, her sister, my mother) and it'd probably be good to be aware of what could happen. I'm already at higher risk because of the migraines, and that is one of my Advantages: to lower my risk of stroke and other serious diseases.

Good luck on getting your clothes rack converted!

Personally, I don't bake, with the exceptions of batches of extremely healthy low sugar, low fat, whole grain high fiber muffins, and one (1), and only 1 batch of no kidding high fat high sugar high chocolate Toll House cookies for Santa each Christmas. Too much temptation. If I must bring desert to a "thing" I buy it, wrapped in scent-proof packaging at the local grocery, and deliver it with the knowledge that it won't be very good anyway so there is no point in eating it. After doing this a few times, the number of occasions where I "must" do this has declined significantly. BTW: I think some of the Beck stuff on food pushers probably applies in this case, especially the worrying about disappointing people about food part. I recommend you look ahead so you can be prepared for your next "assignment" so you can handle it in the way that you choose.

onebyone Congrats on your next food plan! Here's hoping it works out for you. Love your special project ideas!!

Jean GREAT insight on your protein bar last night. Calories are so precious to me that I really want to minimize any that I don't enjoy. You got something you liked better with fewer calories, and that is a double!

Hmmm, kidney stones are the only things that have beaten migraine pain for me, since both my birth stories were either planned or anticipated C-sections. Here's hoping you never get them!

I lay no claims whatsoever to thinking like a thin person. I clearly don't. But I'm beginning to act like a thin person, which is much more important to actually being a thin person!

RobinW Thanks for your well-wishes. I did have a lovely day. And Battlestar Galactica is on momentarily, so it isn't over yet!! Whoop!

Hmm, more calories. Usually I'm good at that, but you avoid sugar. :) Can you add some "good" fats to your diet earlier in the day? An extra tablespoon of olive oil, or some nuts or avocado? Or maybe a scoop of protein powder to a drink or sauce?

Ann/Ann72 :welcome: This: I can say that I'm finally ready to accept the fact that healthy, long lasting weight loss will take time. It is always my instinct to jump into a plan quickly and stop if I don't drop a lot of weight quickly. This time, I'm going to try to take it slowly and keep my eye on the long term goal of permanently changing behavior. is key to doing it! I think the Stage 1 skills are the most important, so good for you working them.

Looking forward to swapping toddler stories!

Lisa Sweet! You made it over here! It does take some work at first, but then it becomes more natural. It is good to see you around here again--today I ran across one of your posts from a while ago, and I was just hoping you'd drop by.

Rachel Have you done some problem solving on the exercise? Since it is an energy thing, could you do 5 minutes first thing in the morning, before you get tired. Eventually exercise will help with the energy levels, but at first, yeah, it does take some doing. One thing I did with myself when I started my weight management journey is I made a deal with myself that I was going to do X minutes a day, period, no questions asked, no choice (this is all pre-Beck for me). After X minutes, I could quit immediately if I wanted to, and I think I only took that deal maybe 2 or 3 times in the first year, and then I never really had to worry about it again (I've had other issues since). Anyway, I won't tell you what X should be for you, but maybe a similar strategy could work for you.

Susan :hug: Take care of yourself. I know how serious depression can be. CT is a preferred treatment for that, as I'm sure you know, even in conjunction with effective meds. Give yourself a lot of credit for keeping up the exercise, and maybe try to focus on doing just one thing.

Busy tonight! I'm going to kill an hour and a few brain cells with some TV, make a plan for tomorrow, READ MY CARDS (at least the "major" ones), and hit the hay! Have a great weekend and see you all tomorrow.

Anne

BillBlueEyes
01-24-2009, 07:20 AM
:welcome: Ann (Ann72) :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Buddy / Diet Coach Group.

And, in case you didn't get one of these 18 months ago, :wel3fc:

Where did you hear/read about the new Beck book?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

BillBlueEyes
01-24-2009, 07:21 AM
:welcome: Lisa (LisaMarie71) :welcome:

Welcome to the Complete Beck Diet for Life / Beck Diet Solution Discussion Group, Support Group, Diet Buddy / Diet Coach Group.

And, in case you didn't get one of these two and a half years ago, :wel3fc:

How did you find out about Beck?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

BillBlueEyes
01-24-2009, 07:21 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Finally got in a good long walk after work. CREDIT moi. Still lots of snow on the ground around here so long walks are restricted to shoveled paths and sidewalks. Sending hugs to everyone who shovels their sidewalks; sending raspberries to all those who don't.

A small step: Since I got back from my walk fairly close to dinner time, I skipped my "afternoon" snack that I think of as a strategy to tide me over until dinner. That's a deal for me only because I've recently noted that I'd have my snack even if I had to rush to complete it before sitting down to dinner. So, CREDIT moi for working to sort this out.


maryblu - Waving. Thinking of you as I read the endless saga of your senate race.

Robin (RobinW) - Interesting dilemma about eating when you're not hungry - admittedly a little hard for me to relate to, LOL. One good source of healthy calories is legumes, possibly some hummus with cucumber slices for dipping.

Your experience with Why can't I stop Eating sounds so Beck-like. Seems like a good match for the path you're on. Good luck in working out the not-hungry bit.


Jean (kuhljeanie) - Kudos for that amazing performance shifting from the (already opened and halved) protein bar to the desirable protein cookie. What a great reminder to me that I have no obligation to eat something even if I opened it.

Congrats for choosing such a supportive DH; give yourself credit. And Kudos to him also.

And thanks for the reminder to have a treat scheduled into my week. Before my healthy journey, I had scheduled a small piece of dark chocolate each evening, broken off of a large frozen bar. Well, as you know, breaking a frozen bar produces random sized pieces, and as you can guess, the size of the chosen piece(s) became larger and larger. There are ways to incorporate an individual packaged piece to avoid that problem.


onebyone - Kudos for choosing a diet. Yep, a diet plan for busy people does seem like a good fit for your life.

Congrats for finding your project; sounds so productive to direct all your emotions about the transportation strike into art. With any luck, your works may get some local publicity by the many annoyed parties, thus turning your lemon into a career boost.

Can't wait to hear how you like Frost/Nixon. Even as I read in today's news about China, I remember that Nixon astounded the world by reaching out to Mao Zedung when his party was still deep into the Red-China-threat mentality.


Anne (wndranne) - Yay for feeling good enough to take a run. Amazing that you are already becoming a soccer mom - hard for me to picture you joining the Sarah Palin crowd, LOL. (Although I can imagine you governing a state in your spare time with your organization and focusing skills.)

Love the thought that you are "beginning to act like a thin person." Like the ring of that.


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Kudos for you exercising at Curves. Ouch for exhausted - that's a killer for keeping the mind focused on your plan. Are you a person who can benefit from a short nap? Naps don't work for everyone, but, on the occasion when needed, a 30 minute nap does wonders for my mind. Good luck with beginning back at Day 1; keep us posted here.


davidette - Yep, chasing after space heaters is exercise, LOL. Kudos for being the good DD responding to your mom's loss of heat. Good luck with the treadmill; that's a smart strategy to take the small first step - remove the clothes and see if it works.

Another option for bringing desert is to make an attractive fruit platter that fits your own plan. Fresh pineapple is usually appreciated, especially by folks who just wouldn't think of buying a fresh one and cutting it up.


Rachel (helping rachel) - Kudos for actively moving to complete your list of tasks for the evening. Yep, sounds like you could use a strategy for getting started on your exercise program. Have you considered writing down your plan, with a very simple goal for the first day - maybe a walk to someplace pleasant or to a store for a chore? If you did that, then you could use your No Choice card to just do it. Good luck in tackling this.

Ann (Ann72) - Kudos for focusing on the Success Skills before jumping into the diet part. Sounds to me like you have the kind of perspective that could make this a successful journey. Looking forward to sharing that journey with you.

Lisa (LisaMarie71) - Congrats for getting back on track in time to save a big chunk of that great weight loss. That alone already puts you ahead of the pack. And Kudos for having a terrific long-term goal with an achievable time frame, "I don't want to start my 40s unhealthy and unfit!"

Setting a small first goal is one possibility. You'll note others on this thread setting 5 pound goals with small non-food rewards. Looking forward to sharing your journey here.


Readers - "Stage 1
The Success Skills Plan
...
Skill 6: Overcome hunger, cravings, and emotional eating. (page 72).
..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 50.

LisaMarie71
01-24-2009, 09:03 AM
How did you find out about Beck?

And how did you find this thread on 3FC?

I read about Beck somewhere when the other book came out (The Beck Diet Solution) but I never got around to picking it up. Then I saw that this book came out and I thought about it. What cinched it for me was that Anne is doing it! I trust her judgment on weight loss stuff! I know I can lose weight (obviously, since I lost over 100 pounds) -- but I want to make sure it stays off this time, so I think the Success Skills will be very important for me. None of it is new, really -- I know I should eat slowly, for example -- but this book is helping me realize that I have to commit to practicing those skills so that they'll truly be a part of my life.

I found this thread easily because I used to read practically the whole 3FC board back when I was losing all that weight. Lately I've been avoiding reality, so I haven't ventured beyond General Chatter!

Ann72
01-24-2009, 10:13 AM
Thank you all for the wonderful welcome! We're on our way out, but I'll write more/do personals later. :)

RobinW
01-24-2009, 12:54 PM
Good Morning :coffee:

Anne~ how did it go at your dd's soccer game? Yah for unimpeded breathing!! That's always a good thing!

Bill~ it might be a small step, but that kind of thing has been a biggie for me. Great job on working that out!! If I notice Im hungry-ish around 4pm, I'll hold off until dinner, just because I know if I have something, I wont eat what I need to eat at dinner. Big Kudos!!

The book "What cant I stop Eating" and the Beck diet solution has been a perfect match for me. I think anyone that has binge/compulsive overeating issues, this is perfect. For me, it has been almost magic.....kinda like that magic weightloss pill we all wish they would invent. What I couldnt get out of OA, I am getting from these 2 books.

LisaMarie and Ann72 :wave: :welcome3:

I know Im missing a bunch of people, I hope you are all having a great op weekend!

Ok, Ive had a lightbulb moment last night at about 10:30pm!! :dizzy:

Bill....you will be happy to hear that I finally get it!!! :lol: Why you started at maintanence level and let the weight work itself off.

Again yesterday I was down about 30% of my calorie intake (for my current weight) So I thought, ok, its 9m and Im not still full but Im not really hungry and a cup of tea should do me just fine. But I probably really should have more food. I made a bowl of oatmeal w/raspberries. This brought my calorie total up high enough for me to be happy with it.

BUT.....I was FULL about 1/2 the way thru my bowl. I was ticked off with myself ...I know silly right?

Then I thought....why not just eat the calories I would need once I get to my goal weight? See the lightbulb going off? It was a big honkin' flood light bulb!! :lol: I thought of Bill, and I "got" it! :D :D

So....that is what I am going to do. Keep to my 3 meals a day....snacks only when I need it. Treats when it is a special occasion, and keep my calorie count at the maintanence level of 155lb woman :D

I felt sooooo much better about all this last night right before I went to bed. I am going back to "no eating" before bed. I didnt miss it, and it is a horrible habit I dont want back.

..........today is house cleaning day and maybe another chickflick :D Hubby is holding down the fort at the shop, dd is at her dad's and I have the house to myself again. Yah!! .......Oh and some cooking too :lol:

Have a great day everyone!

angelmomma210
01-24-2009, 01:29 PM
Well dh got another call about the eeo. The eeo person will be calling again next wednesday and then the decision will be made as to what way they will go. If the first way doesn't work then they will file a formal form and go from there. This is so long and I hope that it will end soon.
Doing okay...just need some time to get over this. Meds are doing okay...kinda tired.

bennyhannahmama
01-24-2009, 04:37 PM
Coaches
Okay, this pattern of posting when I'm doing well and then disappearing when I'm not has got to stop. So when I need the support the most, I don't reach out for it.
Anyway, dealing with all sorts of stuff... had some bad days, but I feel things turning around again.
Still need to focus more on actual Beck strategies but struggling with that because of all the other things I'm trying to do.
Oh and since I last posted, I've added another thing: I joined a running group to train for my 1/2 marathon in the spring.

Ack! What was I thinking? I'm feeling overwhelmed with everything and need to try to focus and prioritize.

So far today I'm on program. Went to the gym this morning and weighed in for the Wellness Challenge (I earned all 9 points possible for the week: food log, exercise journal, exercising 5 or more days, lost weight, lost body-fat %). Had the kids with me so I couldn't work out at the gym, but I did go home and work out on the elliptical.
I came back to post here (again!) :D

I look forward to catching up with all of you, but unfortunately, I will have to do it from this point forward. Kudos to all of you that check in here regardless of anything else!

JenMusic
01-24-2009, 04:47 PM
Hello, again, everyone! I posted on Monday, asking some questions and getting input (thanks again, for that). I ordered the book on Amazon that day and it showed up yesterday - I've begun reading it, and am already impressed with Dr. Beck's approach. I like her non-nonsense discussion of successful dieting and acknowledgement that it will be hard and take time. I like where she's coming from so far.

I'm just hopping on to write about one thing that has already blown my mind, and is probably a pretty good indicator of how messed up my thinking is/how few of the success skills I've acquired over the years:

"Many of the dieters I counsel report that they are finally able to eat these formerly 'forbidden' foods without guilt or fear - and each bite tastes that much better because they know they will feel satisfied, will easily limit themselves, and can have more the next day if they plan in advance." (p. 15)

OH, WOW! I have either never heard this before, or never paid attention to it (and I consider myself an old hand at dieting). It never connected, this idea that the hot cocoa Hershey's kisses will still be there tomorrow, so I don't have to shove them all in my face at once, thereby destroying my enjoyment of them. I can have more tomorrow, if I plan for them.

I know that's probably silly to some of you, but I just wanted to share. :)

I want to keep reading, but it's my designated walking time, so I'll do more tonight. I hope you all are having a good weekend, and now that I have the book I'm looking forward to getting to know you all better.

QuilterInVA
01-24-2009, 09:54 PM
Good evening! I've had a good day OP. I got menus made up for the next 2 weeks, made a Trader Joe run and stocked up on produce, fruit, salmon, and plain European style yogurt. Now to carry it out.

Have a good evening.

AnneWonders
01-24-2009, 10:20 PM
Coaches/Buddies DD did very well through the first half of soccer, but then melted down. We also had a play group at the house tonight, so I'm a bit overstimulated. Dinner was pizza, so calories were up a couple hundred from normal, but that was all planned, so I'm doing all right. I did read all my RCs last night, and feel like I'm still on track.

Tomorrow we are taking the munchkins to a friend's house to pick mandarin oranges. They like having the preschooler get under all the low hanging branches, and we like the oranges.

BillBlueEyes Are you going to replace the calories in your afternoon snack in other meals, or just do away with it altogether? LOL, no worries about me joining the Sarah Palin crowd any time soon!

LisaMarie71 I don't count pregnancy weight as a regain, unless it stays on for 1 year after birth or 6 months after stopping nursing, at which point, it's just plain fat, LOL. Ah, so you've been hiding in General Chatter.

Ann72 :wave:

RobinW Here's to magic weight loss! I'll take some of that. But seriously, I can hear your CLICK from over here. Hope you got in your chick flick and enjoyed it.

angelmomma210 Get some rest if you can. Hoping the EEO guy does the right thing!

bennyhannamama/Kim It is hard to come here when things are not going well, but that is when you need it the most. You should write something like that on a response card!! Welcome back. I think the running group sounds awesome.

JenMusic I think your insight is a deep one. It is something I still struggle with. There are a few very specific foods that I don't eat, because I WILL NOT stop until they are gone, but fortunately, with a little thought, I can deal with most foods now.

Susan/QuilterInVA Two weeks of menus!! Oh wow. And here I am foot dragging on tomorrow! I feel my act getting together after posting.

Anne

helping rachel
01-24-2009, 10:23 PM
Thanks for the encouragement for changing my thinking with exercising. my son asked me first thing today if I wanted to work out with him at the club and I told me Yes, I have no choice to ignore it today. My weigh date is Saturday and I am down 4 lbs. I am glad to see this indicator as I really changed my thoughts and actions this week. Now on to some new skills regarding exercising. It feels good to have some new found freedom of not letting food control me...
I am sure my crappy eating in the last few months helped the weight loss.
It feels good to change.:)

BillBlueEyes
01-25-2009, 07:11 AM
Diet Coaches/Buddies - Took a long walk with DW and we stumbled upon a Red Tailed Hawk on the ground calmly tearing apart his lunch. What a beautiful bird. CREDIT moi for the walk. Credit to the hawk for prioritizing to keep eating despite our sudden appearance.

Bought Bite Sized Dried Plums on sale when I took my walk to the store for my veggies for next week. CREDIT moi for working to overcome my lifelong aversion to prunes as awful food for old people. Turns out that Bite Sized just means somewhat smaller. Don't know what I was expecting; plums only get so small. I think I was expecting some new miracle tiny plum, say the size of a grape. Oh Well.


Robin (RobinW) - Kudos for "a big honkin' flood light bulb!!... Keep to my 3 meals a day....snacks only when I need it. Treats when it is a special occasion, and keep my calorie count at the maintenance level of 155lb woman." Yay for yet another maintenance dieter. Thanks for the trip through your thinking process.

onebyone - Waving. My image is that you're hyper-focused at your easel dumping all your frustrations into the faces of your protagonists.

Anne (wndranne) - Congrats to your DD for making it through the first half of her first soccer game. And congrats to you for only feeling "overstimulated" after hosting a play group when reduced to a blubbering idiot is a perfectly normal response. Kudos for remaining on-plan and on-track right through a pizza dinner.

Re replacing my 100 calorie evening snack: Nope, it doesn't need to be replaced on those occasions when I'll skip it. I'm still up five pounds (although below sticker weight) from the daily 100 calorie corn-on-the-cob this summer. Since they're not just dropping off on their own, methinks I need to find a few 100 calories here and there to let them go.


Susan (QuilterInVA) - Kudos for planning ahead for 2 weeks. Drooling here at the thought of your Trader Jo's shopping cart of real food.

Chris (angelmomma210) - Ouch for the "kinda tired." Yay for the progress with the EEO. Sending supportive thoughts for a positive conclusion.

Kim (bennyhannamama) - Yay for being on your program today. Can't do better than that. Ouch for having all sorts of stuff to deal with. And ouch for that feeling of overwhelmed. Yep, making hard choices is one of the keys to getting out of overwhelmed, even though it's tough when there's a lot on the plate. I think it's helpful to acknowledge that staying on plan with food and exercise does take some time, and that something has to give to make that time. Good luck with that.

And Kudos for your successes in your Wellness Challenge. I remember how excited you were when you signed up for that. Way to go with the follow through.


Rachel (helping rachel) - Congrats on your 4 pound loss. And Kudos for going to the gym with your DS. Sounds like you're getting it together, so well put with, "It feels good to change."

Jennifer (JenMusic) - Kudos for a mind boggling insight, "It never connected, this idea that the hot cocoa Hershey's kisses will still be there tomorrow, so I don't have to shove them all in my face at once, thereby destroying my enjoyment of them. I can have more tomorrow, if I plan for them." Think I'll try to remember that one when I feel drawn to a whole sleeve of Girl Scout Thin Mints or a whole mound of ribs. Thanks for that.

Ann (Ann72) - Waving back. Have an on-plan day.

Lisa (LisaMarie71) - Astute judgment here, "What cinched it for me was that Anne is doing it! I trust her judgment on weight loss stuff!" Yep, I'm in that club also. And I also strongly agree with your "I think the Success Skills will be very important for me." Beck seems like a good fit for you.

Readers - "Stage 1
The Success Skills Plan
...
Skill 7: Plan and monitor your eating. (page 89).
..." The Complete Beck Diet for Life, pg 50.

onebyone
01-25-2009, 10:11 AM
Hello coaches

Well I binge ate all afternoon yesterday. I stopped by last night. I was set off by seeing a high number on the scale. I thought I "should have" seen a lower number given all my walking since getting back to school but no. I was disappointed and feeling like getting myself onto my new foodplan was too hard. Too much metal energy, too much planning, too much thinking it through, so I hid in bags of chips and candy. Plus my regular food. I ate a lot.

But it's a new day and I have a new direction. I guess I just continue to want instant fast quick results and I still want to see the weight just drop off. But more than this I want it to be real and lasting and to be true to myself so if I really want that this will take some trial and error. I'm going to use the low gylcemic foods to make up my foodplan. I am going to figure out a few meals that I can eat everyday for breakfast and lunch and make them automatic. I want to make them ahead and freeze them like kuhljeanie is doing. I think that'd be a great approach for me too. Grab and go. Pre-portioned home made eady to eat from the freezer real food sounds like a great strategy. I think DH would do well to have good food to access too from the freezer. It's kind of exciting thinking about this. I am going to give myself the week to get things in order, get what I need, and then next weekend start. Meanwhile I'll just do three meals a day and 2 snacks and the big change will be to record this into fitday. I need to find the current thinking on optimum fat/carb/protein ratios so I can work toward that in my food planning.

One step forward two steps back. I can be grateful that no matter what, I'm moving.

davidette
01-25-2009, 10:16 AM
:encore: Yeah, I did it! Met a friend for lunch at the mall yesterday and stayed 100% on plan! This required being assertive about my weak spots, where to eat so I could plan ahead, and especially no dessert. When we left the restaurant she wanted to go have a bakery cafe dessert and I just had coffee (okay, I put nonfat milk in it). When she offered me bites I remembered Bill saying one chocolate would only make him want more and I knew even a taste would just make things that much harder. I am so proud of myself for resisting (as kuhljeanie said "that fabulous smug feeling that comes from turning down sweets") I am so thankful for everyone's encouragement and inspiration. This is only the 3rd time in my entire life I've managed to eat out on a diet and be proud of my behavior; once with the original Beck book long ago and the other two in the last week with the new Beck book. I think I'm getting it right this time, with support and direction from this group as a coach!

As for Monday's lunch, :thanks: to all for your suggestions. I realized I was sabotaging myself, insisting on taking a tempting homemade delight. I'm just going to take store-bought cookies (As Robin suggested, something I'm not that crazy about, no chocolate! and per Anne: wrapped in scent-proof packaging) and let them think what they want. As onebyone pointed out, if they don't like it, they'll ask someone else next time! I can avoid all the stress of trying not to lick or taste while cooking. I think I'm being challenged enough lately without that. The relief I feel at making this decision and sticking with it is fantastic. But I never would have seen it without this group!

Otherwise, on plan with exercise and practicing skills. The weight is not yet dropping but my mood is sure rising! As rachel says, it feels good to change!

onebyone Thanks for cookie receipe I'm saving it for when I have a little more Beck practice as a challenge, because they will be a delicious and nutritious choice for a treat when I think I can handle having chocolate chips around, or trust myself to throw the extras away.

kuhljeanie Enjoyed the Camilla Cooks site, I am definitely going to try her tofu receipe soon. I love using unusual spices and herbs and plan to try some of her cookies eventually too. I've been hearing so much about tumeric being a super health-enhancing spice; I bet I can find some ways to use it in some of her recipes. I'll be checking at the bookstores!

Robin I second Ann's suggestion: If you're really feeling the need to get your calorie count or nutrition totals up but aren't hungry, nuts are a wonderful choice. They are so good for you I can consider an almond as much medicine as food. Very caloric, but luckily I can resist the gobbling the bag. Dieting can lead us to ignore the healthy oils we really need. If you can resist making guacamole, an avocado slice on your sandwich is option.

Kudos on breaking the "no eating before bed" habit; I tend to think the sky will fall if I don't have my pre-bed snack. You show me it's possible, someday!

Welcome:wave: Ann72, Lisamarie 71

angelmomma210
01-25-2009, 10:25 AM
Went out for dinner yesterday and did good. Ate a salad first...did watch what I put on it. Then went up for a few good things first...it was an all you can eat place. I got a few things that when I tasted them..I put them to the side..yeah for me. I also did not eat or even want dessert. I am glad for that.

ChinaMaine
01-25-2009, 10:54 AM
Hello - I'm new to this group and to the Beck approach to dieting. I am very hopeful though, because I have found CBT to be a very effective approach to behavior modification. I won't bore you with the gory details, but about 2 years ago I worked with a CBT counselor, and managed to change from being a Type A personality who always put work first, to a Type B who always puts me and my family first.

Where I'm at now. I've bought the latest book (Diet for Life) and have finished reading Part 1. I've bought index cards (etc) and have begun working on Stage 1 (developing success skills). So, I have one foot on the path to long term weight loss. I believe I'm supposed to post my weight every day...
202 (now) / 135 (goal)

FYI - I have celiac disease, pernicious anemia, hypothyroidism and high cholesterol.
- I went on a gluten free diet when diagnosed with celiac about 5 years ago. Since GF, I am dealing with serious weight issues for the first time in my life.
- I didn't get diagnosed with the anemia and thyroid issues until I experienced extreme fatigue about a year ago. I was barely able to work, much less exercise, hike, kayak, or even walk the dog. So, I'm working my way back from living a VERY sedentary lifestyle for the last 2 years. In the past I was very active (except during the workday).
- My health priorities are (1) live a very active life, (2) get back to a normal weight.

Plans for today. I've been sick with a cold for a week, but will get back to exercising today. I put together a distractions list this AM. Later today I'll work on reading through a few pages in Stage 1 and do one piece of 'homework'. I started keeping a daily food log at the beginning of January, so I'll catch up the log with the days I missed when sick.

I look forward to getting to know you all better in the weeks, months, and years to come. I hope that I can provide support for you, while you help me through this journey.

Cheers!

helping rachel
01-25-2009, 11:03 AM
:hug:Welcome Chinamaine! Glad to have you in group....look forward to supporting you and all other beckies.

maryblu
01-25-2009, 12:38 PM
Hello Beckies, old and new!

Welcome ChinaMaine!

Congrats, onebyone; I think you have a great start with:

"I am going to figure out a few meals that I can eat everyday for breakfast and lunch and make them automatic."

It was one of the wisest actions listed in You on a Diet. (That, and, "stop reading self help books and start moving") As the good doctors pointed out:

It takes a lot of the decision making out (sound like Beck? NO choice, plan, write it down) so you don't face those last minute decisions and temptations.

More importantly, I think, it takes so much of the obsessing about food out of the equation. You automate 2 meals a day and stop obsessing. As I read posts of "is this allowed?", "Am I eating enough?", I just think we obsess an awful lot.

Add to that, as we have pretty much agreed, we seem to be a lot of type A personalities, so then add to that the perfection or nothing, that all or nothing diet mentality..such a trap.......then, let's factor in that "instant gratification, quick loss" thinking, and we are doomed. How many posts have read, "I plan to lose 2 pounds a week for x # of weeks", and I shudder. We are setting ourselves up for failure.

Now, contrast those of us still caught in that thinking to the way BillBE is handling the "I'm still up five pounds (although below sticker weight) from the daily 100 calorie corn-on-the-cob this summer. " dilema. Note:
"Since they're not just dropping off on their own, methinks I need to find a few 100 calories here and there to let them go."

Great kudos, Bill on some really sane thinking and sound strategy. Further, I just have to laugh at the fresh sweet corn cause


Can't think of another better reason! Well, I could make it better.....add freshly caught Sunfish so fresh they are still wiggling as you get them in the pan...in real butter. *sigh

Finally, in support and proof of your thinking, onebyone, as I read the accountability maintainers thread, they do eat a lot of the same thing day after day.

BillBE thanks for the empathy on our lengthy senate election journey..I certainly would not call it a "process" at this point. I remain really patient. I can be patient as long as it has the right outcome!

onebyone
01-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Hi coaches I need some coaching input here...

I was on a few websites and got into calculating my caloric needs
And two things were coming up.

1) when I put my current weight in, calculators tell me I should eat around 2100 calories per day to reduce my intake an amount that will help me shed 1-2 lbs per week. These sites say that to reduce drastically will set my body into "starvation mode" thereby causing my body to retain the weight.

2) when I calculate based on the weight I want to maintain, this being 140-150, I get a base of 1600 -1800 calories a day. I like Billblueeyes approach of eating the way I will be eating when I am my goal weight, and just doing that and having the body catch up to the change I've already made.

But according to the theory behind #1, this is way too drastic a shift for my body and it will stop me :?:
Will it?
Really?
I thought it was exercise that kept the engine revving anyway?
I'll be walking into the foreseeable future... shouldn't that help prevent my body stalling? How much consideration do I give this? What would you do?

Many plans now accommodate the basal metabolic rate of a larger starting weight like mine, as my basic bodily function requires higher calories... but I don't want to maintain this weight.

I'm confused and I have to confess *sigh* the :devil: side of me says "go with the lower calories you'll lose weight faster who cares if you suffer... do what you have to to get this off ASAP..." suffice it to say, this is not my best side but the impatient saboteur.

So far today I have recorded all my food. (BIG credit moi here)I'm putting it into fitday. Aiming for a 30/30/40 ratio to start: protein/fat/carb. I've also made a bean soup for a few meals this week and I have a crockpot full of food on the go too. Credit for preparing ahead.

Better go. Will be back later for personals and an update... this is my focus for today: getting my food straightened out and a plan for the week in place.

RobinW
01-25-2009, 06:24 PM
:wave: quick hello.....been cooking and planning for next week.

Have a great evening everyone!

AnneWonders
01-25-2009, 10:36 PM
Coaches/Buddies I did not weigh in this morning. I had more help in the bathroom this morning than I needed, and at some point DD piped up, "Mommy, you got a fat butt." Nice. On another day, she might have pointed out that I have brown hair, or long fingernails or something, but not this morning. I'm half amused and half...not. By the way, I weighed later, and while this isn't an "official" weight, projections put me up about 0.6-0.8 pounds from yesterday.

I decided last night that I need to get out on my road bike, which I haven't ridden for various legitimate and invented reasons since October. I had a great ride, with two big climbs, and it wasn't as tough as I feared it would be, being about 20 pounds lighter than the last time I tortured myself on this particular course, with not quite 1000 feet of elevation gain. However, I still have a way to go in giving myself credit for not sitting on my "fat butt," and not comparing myself to what I could do a couple years ago.

After the ride I went grocery shopping, which had been postponed to afternoon from its normal morning slot on account of the orange picking (everybody keeping up?), and after a rather measly snack that I clearly hadn't thought through in the context of just finishing up a 15 mile hilly bike ride, I ran into fresh baked baguettes. I caved instantly. Bought one, brought it home, served it up with a luscious bruscetta topping, tomatoes, fresh garlic, my accidental basil, and a touch of extra virgin olive oil, topped off with fresh grated parmesan. Oh yes! Nothing tastes as good as thin feels, my "fat butt." I feel compelled to report that given this unplanned excursion from my grossly inadequate plan, I ate a reasonable portion, and as you may have gathered, enjoyed every single bite.

I have to do a Cheat Sheet on this one because it feels like a very complicated situation. I don't think the "fat butt" comment sent me into a tailspin or anything, but I seem to be sort of dwelling on it. I need better planning for 1) weekends, which demand more flexibility on my part, 2) post-major-exercise nourishment, and 3) grocery shopping when I'm slightly hungry. I am pretty much over the moon that if I did go off plan, I had GOOD food, and didn't sink into a bag of Doritos or something. Then again, maybe I'm overthinking a calorie equivalent day, since my total intake is exactly on track for what I wanted it to be...hmm, coaches, give me input. (And, no, this isn't one of my "legitimate" reasons to go off plan.)

Ah, yes, the orange picking went well this morning, at the home of our childless friends, with no tantrums, no puking, and only a moderate amount of bloodshed (skinned elbow). We now have a huge bag of Mandarin oranges, and some lemons and grapefruit. Also, no cats or dogs were harmed in the adventure.

I'm tempting the post monster, so I'll be back momentarily with personals...

wunderAnne