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Old 02-12-2001, 11:23 AM   #1  
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This is the SUGAR BUSTERS WEEKLY SUPPORT BOARD where all of you who are following this WOE, or are thinking about doing so, are welcome to come join in and be a part of our wonderful group.

Other than finding support and friendship on this board, we also try to do something during the the week to add a little difference to our board.


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Old 02-12-2001, 11:29 AM   #2  
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Good Monday Morning Everyone!

Just a quick post to get my MOTIVATIONAL MONDAY message in for everyone:


The surest recipe for failure, is to avoid failure. If you cannot accept the prospect that you might fail, then you will most certainly fail. To avoid failure, is to avoid even the possibility of success.

Accomplishment requires effort and commitment. And it requires risk. Accomplishment requires that you make decisions, set priorities, make choices, and take action. Those things are all very risky. They can lead to failure just as surely as to success.

Yet what is failure? It is merely another step toward success. When you don't get the results you want, at least you've learned how not to act. So, is failure really so bad?

Without failure there would be no success. Make the effort. Expect the best, and accept that it may be necessary to adjust your approach to improve your results.

Be willing to fail as you take action, and you're on the road to success.

-- Ralph Marston

CATHY, you should be able to find some SB legal chocolates at any large HFS, but there are tons of places on the web you can order from it not. I have a few links on the FOOD INFORMATION BOARD you can look at. Good luck with the metal monster!!!

GATOR, when are you leaving for Arizona?? Have a great time!


I'll check in with you all later. I hope you all have a great week!!!


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I know it's late (or early) LOL, but I had to finish reading tonight. Couldn't give it up till I was done. Have to be out of here early in am, so I thought I'd go ahead & post a few responses since Debbie put up the new board before I finished reading last weeks.

Beach, thanks for posting that Interview with Luis A. Balart, M.D. I've looked at that glycemic index site, but it's rather confusing cause I see White Bread column & another column, can you explain? What I've really been looking for is the glycemic index for turnips. Can you help me??

kapola, sorry to hear of your accident at the red light. Hope you weren't hurt, & just getting your car back 2 weeks ago?? Streets aren't safe around you, huh? Please be careful. And girl, don't give up. Things are bound to get better soon. Keep your head up & keep busting! Weather been really strange here in SW La too. Went to work Fri am it was 70 & muggy. Came home it was 48 & raining, then down in the 30's the past 2 mornings.

Liz, hope you reach your goal for your trip to Bahamas. DH & I went in 1995 & sure did enjoy it, but on the trip back the water was rough, a disturbance in the gulf & we didn't tolerante the ride if you know what I mean...LOL Hope you have smooth sailing when you go.

Viv, Praise the Lord it's NOT CA!!! Those other things can be treated. I know you & your dad both must be breathing a BIG sigh of relief.

Karen, good to have you aBOARD...LOL. I know what you mean about feeling like having a circle of friends. I don't get to post for days sometimes, but I miss it & can't wait to read & catch up with everyone & what's going on. Hey, we say the same thing about LA weather, if you don't like it, wait a few minutes, it'll change. Guess we're not unique then...LOL

Quilter, sure sounds like your lunch with Curtis Aikens was a big success & an event to remember. Mardi Gras bash & New Orleans zydeco bands in Cincinnatte, Ohio?? They sure do travel with this LA music! LOL

Debbie, You find the Agave Nectar in HFS? I will look for some tomorrow while I'm in Lafayette. I've seen several receipes calling for honey that I'd like to try, but didn't want to use them because I didn't think honey was SB legal. Also, I saw you posted some sample menus. I've been making the Tabouli salad receipe I found on & adding Tuna & various fresh veggies like lettuce & cukes to bring to work. We really have been enjoying it. The Aromatic Chicken & Lentils also went over real big here with DH.
Only problem was that it REALLY made me gasey. Not a good thing that water vs coke thing is really an eye opener...GOT to drink more!! I have really all but stopped drinking my CFD cokes, though. Hadn't had but 1 or 2 in the last 3 weeks. BIG change for me. I'd have 1 or 2 a day!

GatorGal, Yes I read your post & I got tired just reading the events of your day. Girl, that's alot of cooking! I think you deserve a few days of R&R in Arizona after all that. Enjoy!!!

Well got to get some Catch up with ya'll tomorrow eve. Have a great Monday!!


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Hi everyone! Well about an hour ago I finished planning my meals at for tomorrow and decided that I would go ahead and post something motivational for later this morning. Well, I forgot that I recently got a new Internet Service Provider and therefore a new internet address, so when I went to post something I couldn't remember my password and couldn't have it e-mailed to me because my address had changed. So... I had to reregister.

Anyway, here's what I was going to post earlier:

"Life is not an obstacle course...
it's a dance lesson.
It's okay to make a mistake,
As long as you keep dancing
And focus on enjoying the people you're dancing with;
Even if you're waltzing and they're doing the lambada!"
--- Copyright 1986 Suzanne Hoechstetter

Hope you all have a great day!

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Old 02-12-2001, 06:23 PM   #5  
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Good Monday Morning Everyone~

Well I stepped on the scale and "WOW" I had a 2 Lb loss! Yiiipppeeee... That sure puts me in a cheerful mood. I knew I could do this. You are all correct when you speak about failure. I know I've fallen off the wagon a couple of times, but I just get up and climb back on! This SB is a wonderful life change for me. Now if I could only get DH to join me. I'll have to work on that one!

I'm hoping to go to this HFS early this week. I'm sure I'll find it interesting. Need to look for some Chocolate and some of that nectar. Where in the store would I find the nectar? Never been to a HF store.

Well I couldn't find the place to put my weightloss so thought I'd tell all of you wonderful ladies (& Gents) Are there any male bodies at this great site?

Good Luck to All~

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Hi all!

Cathy H - great news on your loss! Wow - I can't wait until I have that feeling!

Melf - thanks for the encouragement about my goal! We've been to this particular place (Nassau Beach)several times & really love it. It's SO laid back. No casinos, shopping or shows for us. It's bed-eat-beach-eat-beach-bed for us! My idea of heaven on earth...

And the gals using both WW & SB - I'm supposed to get my at-home kit today & I hope it comes. I cant' wait to get started! I think the structure of WW will help a lot while I'm trying to plan my eating. Life is complicated enough, without having to put all the brainwork into figuring out menus, grams, etc. All that figgerin' just tires me out & I don't stick to it...

My "Motivational Tip" may sound sorta weird (you'll get ued to that ) but it's a quote by Yoda from "Star Wars" that reminds me how often I let myself off the hook with "Okay, I'll try..."

"Do or Not Do - there is no Try." - Yoda

Have a great week!

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It's not original, but suits me to a tee....
My motivational ditty for the day is........

JUST DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is for those of you who LIKE ME are big ole slackers some I said yesterday to KAPOLA...I lose a few, and I gain a few, but it's the WONDERFUL SUPPORT I get here that keeps me coming back!

GATOR...GET SOME REST GIRL....You're sounding a littly whiney....sounds like a busy day plain and simple to me...Maybe I didn't catch it, but were those meals for the less fortunate? Have a good trip and GET SOME REST!!!

MELF::: WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? We've missed you!

CHERI: be sure to update your bio with your new email address..

Cathy..CONGRATs. Doesn't that make you feel great? Keep it up..We're not really sure if there are any males actually posting in disguise, or just lurkers...we did have one guy join us for a day not too long ago, but he didn't stick around....TOO MUCH WOMAN FOR HIM I GUESS!!!!

MsLIZ...good luck with the WW & SB combo..I've the feeling that I'm not following as strictly as I should be, so I've definately got to take myself down a notch and bust some a**. NOT ENOUGH EXERCISE IS MY PROBLEM.....AND TOO MUCH SOURDOUGH BREAD!!!!
Good luck...and let me know if I can help..
Barbee does the WW thing too, she can be of assistance as well..

CATHY: make sure that chocolate is 70% and up cocoa....


DEB: Haven't fortgotten about your list...Will get that to you soon..
I'm telling you to get out that rectal thermometer! They will come alive really quick...
My mother and I basically get along ok. I'm just worried about my "space"...I'm not trying to be pouty about it, but as you all already know, brothers never offer!!!! OK , GOT THAT OUT OF MY SYSTEM....

BARBEE...I checked that site out, IT'S GREEK TO ME...I'll play with it a little more and let you know!

Got to get to work...Have a great day everyone!

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OHMIGAWD . It took me 45 minutes to catch up on posts! We all just have to stop being such good communicators! I have to get SOME work done at work today, LOL!

While we were having our busy weekend of hockey and skiing (oh, you FLA gals, I would much prefer swimming and shopping at Orlando outlet malls!), some questions came to mind, want to get them out of the way now for you SB wizards:

1. I was reading Andrew Weil's book this weekend - he almost comes out and supports the carb theory, but then totally blasts away the sugar theory - but anyway, he had a GI chart in the book that listed watermelon at a 7! What's up with that? I thought watermelon, my FAVE summertime treat, was illegal! Also, he said that AL DENTE regular ol pasta had a low GI as well, so it shouldn't affect the insulin, etc. I know I read too much, but I would really like your thoughts on this! Thanks! I have more confusing stuff from his book....I'll get to it!

2. Okay, is HFS a midwestern or southern market? Just curious since it's referred to regularly....

3. What do you do if/when you have MAJOR chocolate/sweet cravings? Any great strategies? I had a major sweet craving last nite - I then at 1/2c of plain yogurt with 1 TB of fruit spread....but it wasn't chocolate. Which brings me to my next question....

4. Weds is Valentines' Day. Other than the 12 dozen roses DH will bring me before he whisks me away to Paris , there is a box of GREAT See's chocolates in the house that my Dad sent. It's still sealed, and the kids will wolf down plenty - but I would so love to have a good sized serving of it. Strategies...thoughts....yell at me if you must...or tell me, truly, how a little binge has affected you in the past. Give me strength or tell me I can be weak!

5. Fat calories. I mean, calories from fat. This Fitday is making me crazy - each day I seem to consume WAY too much fat in my food. I eat a little cheese, but it's amazing how the fat creeps in. The book really does not stress LOW FAT everything, so how do y ou guys handle the fat issue? Deb, I know you said you eat almond butter everyday....any ideas?

OK, the quiz is over!

My new digital scale told me 3 different weights within 5 minutes on Friday. None of which I liked~! So I returned the thing and bought a decent quality old fashioned mechanical scale, which seems to like me. I think digital scales really can be way out of whack, battieries low, perhaps not totally in snyc =- what kind of scales do you guys prefer? (sorry, that was another question...)

Kapola - I am relatively new to this board, altho not to 3fc, and I really don't get any clique-y impressions at all! I feel like I have been welcomed with open arms. Perhaps the only real requirement I feel there is is to do the SB WOE, but that's totally fair! I've participated, and still do, in several boards, all of which are open and friendly. If you choose not to hang your hat here, I am sure if you look at the gazillions of posts throughout the 3fc board you will find a place to make you happy and successful! But we'd like you to keep in touch.

Cheri - do those water pills ever bother you, side effects, discomfort? I've taken them for PMS WW and felt like my kidneys and bladder were being wrung out to dry! Does that happen to you? I hear ya re: passwords - they make me nuts!

Cathy - congrats on the -2! Don't forget to post that on WIW!

Glory B - a 91 lb loss! WOW! I am so impressed! Someone should put a flag up at WW that this is the place people are successful. I'm sorry you've hit a plateau of sorts, but gosh, what a tremendous success you've had!

Beachfan - I reread the book a lot too - everytime I do I find something else I didn't understand that I do now, etc.

Jan - see my note above about the fat intake. Looks liek we're in the same boat.

Deb - you'd love this. As a fellow tag sale enthusiast (only during the warm months here, of course), I just recently discovererd thrift shops. On SAt, between hockeys of course, I wandered into one in town that I never really noticed until a friend told me about it. Well, DH had "outgrown" his ski bibs and was shopping for a new pair - ya know, like $150 or so...well this shop had 3 pairs, one of them brand new - cost us 12.50!!! I love that!

Quilter - Do you work for Time Warner? I used NYC ....worked for HBO in its infancy (was I stupid to leave there, or what, altho I went to NBC, not a bad tenure there...) and then for the CEO of Time Inc, Gerry Levin....was it Gerry Levin or the other guy? Anyway, what amazes me is all the guys I worked with are incredibly successful - they were in sales for HBO at the time, now they are VPS, CEOs, etc....I love that Ezekeil bread too - makes a sandwich a real treat! Ive got some at work with me today!

Big O - Sorry about that H20 heater thing. Thought I had a similar issue. Tried to take a quick nap in the family room yesterday, on the couch. The basement water heater is right below....I kept hearing this loud buzzing, thought the H20 heater was going to blow up. Went to the basement and stood there for 20 minutes....nothing happened. 3 hours later, discovered it was DHs beeper that got stuck in the couch cushions! LOL!!! Could you post the jellorecipe - it sounds yummy, but how does that then mess with your calories from fat??? I'm very concerned about this issue...

Barbee - see, I knew ya had connections up here! Fairfield is about 2 hours south of us, on Connecticut's Gold Coast. We are in the Currier and Ives northern part of the state - Fairfield is really New York, ya know! So, when we're in Orlando in March, can your son arrange a meeting for my kids with NSync or Backstreet? (Just kidding, just a bit of NY chutzpah, ok???_)

Mary - thanks for the good thoughts. Hopefully things will simmer down a bit for now with my dad. Hmmmm, that taboulleh salad sounds good....think I'll dig out somerecipes..

Overcome - I hear ya abou tthe cheating and the M&M thing. Good for you to toss them, altho I would do so with some sadness. I mean, can I ever enjoy that kind of junk again?>

I have yakked way too much! I'll check back throughout the day - time for oatmeal!

146/143/128 (before march 23, LOL)
Simsbury, CT (22 degrees at the moment, yuk)
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Weight Loss Report for Week Ending 2/11/01

# Reporting Losses - 8
# Pounds Lost - 15.5

Keep the Down an Up!!!
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Old 02-12-2001, 10:10 PM   #10  
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I haven't even begun to read all the posts since Friday morning.

The 60's party for my hubby was loads of fun. Except..... I blew it big time. I had absolutely no control of my eating for the entire day on Saturday, but yesterday pulled in the reins. And Saturday evening I was wondering why I had a bigtime headache. DUH!!!! And the poison I ate didn't taste all that good either. I hope one day of blowing it didn't set me back any. I know my body is really retaining fluids this morning, so I'm going to drink lots of water and watch it really good.

Okay, now that I've confessed and gotten that off my chest and made public reaffirmation.... I'm off to see what everyone was up to this weekend!

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HELLO ALL!!!!!!!

I humbly apologize for not posting in a while. I do try to keep up with most the posts, but I must admit, it's hard for me at times

I am into my 6th week of SB and I am having a struggle - mainly weight wise. Up until 2 weekends ago, I would say I have been 99% legal. Feb 3 I went to a shower.... nothing there was legal. YES.... I fell off the wagon. I jumped back on though. I felt like crap, though, for a few days after that-physically. I get into ruts that I am eating the same old foods..ughhhhhhh!!!! Then this weekend I was naughty Fri nite and Sat night!!! Fri night had 2 cheesesticks and white zin wine. Sat..... I ate 1/2 a sourdough roll, had a bloodymary, and a glass of merlot... BOOO HOOOOOOO. SOMEBODY STOP MEEEEE. I say all this to say that my weight loss has stalled. It had stalled before I started feeling uneasy and less motivated. I am NOT going to give up. BUT PLEASE, I need some encouragement and support. Basically I have lost 8 lbs over all. I started at 140 and now am at 132. I am 5ft tall. Ok.....I must tell you all this. I have NOT started an exercise program. This is probably where my problem lies. But guess what is sitting in my livingroom, ready to be unboxed and unleashed???? A treadmill, yes that is my Valentine's gift from my DH. (Trying to figure out how to be romantic on that treadmill for Valentine's Day, HA) Sorry, humor always seems to be therapeutic for me.

All of you are inspirations for me. Your dedication to yourselves, and to here. It is still hard to me to reply back to each individual post. That makes me feel intimidated at bit....please be patient with me.

I do want to wish CYSNEA a HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

I will go search for a motivational tip and come back later!!!!! Thanks for letting me ramble.

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Happy Monday Everyone

My Motivational Quote is archived on the motivational board but since many of you seem to be struggling with either staying on track or coming back on the wagon, I thought it would be appropriate:
Begin Again

One of the best things we can do in our lives is this: Begin again

Begin to see yourself as you were
When you were the happiest and strongest you have ever been.

Begin to remember what worked for you
(and what worked against you),
And try to capture the magic again.

Begin to remember how natural it was when you were a child--To live a lifetime in each day.

Begin to forget the baggage you have carried with you for years:
The problems that don't matter anymore,
The tears that cried themselves away,
And the worries that are going to wash away
On the shore of tomorrow's new beginnings.

Tomorrow tells us it will be here every new day of our lives;
And if we will be wise,
We will turn away the problems of the past
And give the future -- and ourselves -- a chance to become the best of friends.

Sometimes all it takes is a wish in the heart to let yourself...BEGIN AGAIN.

Melf: Debbie posted a great GI list on the recommended reading and website board. It is from the GI Institute and should help you understand the GI factor.

Viv: I have nestle carnation no sugar added hot chocolate when I have a chocolate craving. HFS stands for Health Food Store. As far as the fat goes, I tried to keep my total saturated fat grams to under 20. That IS higher than most nutritionist recommend but it worked for me and allowed me to eat cheese and peanut butter etc. The SB authors recommend 30%carbs, 30%fat, and 40% protein as your balance. Check out the tips and tools board where Debbie explains this in detail.

Amseraphim: BEGIN AGAIN and just put the last couple of weeks behind you. Be patient and you will do well. You can do this and we are all pulling for you.

Well have to run.

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Old 02-12-2001, 10:44 PM   #13  
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Ann..... you can do it!!!! You deserve it!!!! You are worthy of this program, and worthy of being healthy. Throw the regrets out the window, and hang on to the promises to yourself!!!

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Good Monday Morning!
I was in NO mood to excersise this morning-I totally blew it yesterday and new I had to do something to recover-and i was having an awsome week. Yesterday started off with no breakfast-my second big problem-first one was getting to bed way to late because i went out to see hubbys band play! So much for fun. Well no breakfast lead to a half way decent lunch but the sugar monster was released after my nap when i got home from work-i did skip deserts at church lunch but i did grab some of those full of sugar conversation hearts!!!! Third mistake!!! Anyway thanks for the motivation about Starting over! Its a new day (to bad my weigh in at WW is tomorrow!) I did go to the scale on Fri. and i was back to where i was 2 weeks ago, but maybe someone is looking out for me!!! I will lose something tomorrow! Postive attitudes help right!
Everyone sounds soooo busy. Everyone sounded like they had full week ends.
I think i read somewhere in my Sugar Buster life that Dove Dark Chocolate is legal. I am not sure but if your desperate try that. I am lucky or unlucky to have a store here that sells the 70% choc. If any of you get that desperate send me a check i get ya some!! Its the Bittersweet dark stuff i think. Keep it up-we are all worth it! I took some pics with my new suede pants on! wooo hoooo!! I have to pat myself on the back i did control my alchol intake on Saturday night and did not feel one bit bad about it!!! I still had a great time! I guess that is another reason for yesterday! LOL Hope i get to post again this week sometime this work thing is cramping my style!
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Old 02-13-2001, 02:33 AM   #15  
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I haven't started my exercise program because I haven't been able to get my treadmill...NOW I KNOW WHY.....IT'S BEEN DELIVERED TO YOUR HOUSE!!!!
GET ON IT GIRL....I get an excuse every day on why mine hasn't been delivered...ONE DAY!!
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