Manick - Sorry I didn't answer your question sooner about the mister... it is a OGGI Corporation Micra Mist 2000 "For low fat cooking"... lol
It has a stainless steel exterior and it is non-aerosol pump action... you fill it up 1/3rds of the way and pump air into it depending if you want a mist or a stream. I found it at Target.
Thanks for the info, Faerie, I was thinking it was something like that. I guess I just was wondering, all these cottage cheeses, and now drinks...anyway. Sometimes I need a little something in my water to get me to drink it, so those little packets of CL help me. Then sometimes, I can drink and drink and drink it just plain glorious water. My dad would say "nectar of the gods"
Heather, you're certainly not being dumb, I agree, in fact I was saying to DH on our walk that it was kind of bothering me that so many people are saying stuff to me about having lost weight, "you're fading away" blah blah blah (as hope would say ) one girl said to me today, you're doing good, how are you doing it, just walking and not eating. I was stunned, I said I eat, I eat every daily point, flex point, activity point, occassional mystery where did that point come from point... anyway, I said to him, I'm me, I was insulated before, but I'm still the same me I was before.
Alright, better go to bed, 5 a.m. wakeup is lurking.
BTW, i made a burrito dinner from a box tonight, I used 8 oz. of beef instead of 16, it came out very good, it had seasoning, rice and beans, I'm just saying there was plenty of meat if you end up making something like that, cutting it in half. I wasn't sure, but I only had half a pound so I used it, and FF refried beans, salsa. It was good.
Even when I get to goal, I'll never be a normally thin person... just as the alcoholic will never stop being an alcoholic.
Yes, exactly! Said very well. I've even thought about OA in the past, but I don't feel like it is a fit for me. I don't really binge and I CAN and do stop, I just have to be clicked in to that place in my head that dictates healthy choices rather than poor ones. If given the choice my lower self would always pick the sandwich with full fat mayo! Getting too hungry without a plan it not a place I can be. Ironically, those of us who struggle with this have to think about food even more to make those good choices.
Watching my mother (a naturally thin person) over the years she consistently eats little bits, incorporates lots of vegetables and fruit and gets a bit of activity in on most days. My father (more like me) consistently grabs junk or whatever is handy when he is too hungry and it wasn't until real health crises that he had a wake up call! I want to be AWAKE before I get to that point!
I am new to the 3fatchicks boards but not to ww! I love it and I don't see why anyone would choose to lose weight another way because I feel like ww is virtually painless
I am graduating from college this week so boredom is pretty much my only challenge. Time to get a job and join the real world
I did ww once before and went from 140 to 118. Everyone started making comments about how thin I was and not the good kind. I really do think that pushed me the other way in a vast amount of time. I gained it all back and I am just trying to find a happy medium now.
Started C25k again this week since that was instrumental with my weightloss the first time
Free, I just remembered tonight that someone had asked me what color the car was! It is a very nice green! We sorta like green stuff I guess. Here is a pic of DH in the new car...I made him pose
Heather – I agree with your ranting. Most of the time there’s not really anything I can say to change that person’s mind. So instead: Here’s a quote from Kaplods since she so frequently says it best about these situations. (Edited to provide the meatier parts of the post. No wording has been changed.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaplods
I find it so disheartening when I see people pull such negativity into their lives over body weight issues.
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"Fat is a fate worse than death," has been drilled into us in our culture. But even that isn't really true. If we were covered in a substance that was itched and burned and smelled worse than cow manure, it would be very difficult to listen to a recommendation (even if true) that the best way to get it off was to do it very slowly, over months. Instead, we would panick and try crazy, even dangerous methods to get it off (even if most of them only made the stuff more difficult to get off).
That's how we feel about fat. Unfortunately hating fat, and ourselves for it, often does make weight loss more difficult (definitely more unpleasant) than it needs to be. It can isolate us from friends and family (and loneliness definitely does not promote weight loss).
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Do not hate yourself, and if you can, do not even hate the fat. Fat does have it's purpose, and if you got rid of all of it, you would die. Fat isn't the problem. Fat is good - when there's a famine. Unfortunately, there's no famine, so you want it gone. That's good, but you don't have to hate yourself, or even hate fat to get rid of it (I know that's a crazy concept in the modern world).
I truly believe that hating yourself, allows you to accomplish nothing good for yourself (after all, when you hate someone, you're less disposed towards helping them or looking out for their interests). The more you love yourself, the more you can treat yourself and your body as it deserves to be.
Dieting and exercise is supposed to be boring and even painful. The deprivation is the punishment you deserve for getting fat in the first place.
How much do you believe that?
Now, what if you turned it around to this?
I like myself and deserve to treat myself well. I deserve to eat wonderful, healthy and tastey food that nourishes my body and provides the nutrients it
needs. I deserve to find fun ways to move that body to improve that wonderful body's function and keep it at optimal performance.
Which car are you going to give the best fuel and keep in the best running condition? The one you think is ugly and a piece of junk. Or the car that you believe is valuable and beautiful?
And I completely agree with the above. (Thanks again, Kaplods for providing such well worded food for thought.)
I often just can’t reply when someone has so much hate in their heart about themselves simply because they need to lose some fat. I think it makes me angry, because I’m fat. I’ve always been fat. I know that this probably isn’t what they’re getting at… but to me, it feels as though since they hate themselves for being 10 lbs overweight (Note… that is a random weight picked), I simply MUST hate myself for being 90 lbs overweight. And I don’t. I like me. And I don’t like being around that sort of negativity, I don’t want it festering inside me. My self worth is not determined by how I look, nor how much I weigh. I wish I could spread that feeling around as easily as the negativity spreads.
Ahem. I think I’ll shut up now!
Manick – Absolutely understanding that. I actually went to 3 OA meetings to see what they were about, but… it wasn’t for me. And what a great pic of hubby & car! (And nice blue house, too! Great shade.)
Keli – “Occasional mystery where did that point come from point”. Love it! And good response to that person. Of course we eat! Sometimes I feel like I do nothing BUT eat!
Trisha – Hi there!!!! Welcome to the Flex Talk area! Make sure to keep us updated with how you’re doing
Blzmax & Dawn – Haven’t seen you gals in awhile. Hope things are going well!
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Had a great night’s sleep last night. Feel nice and relaxed today. And tonight is weigh-in. So we’ll see how stuff goes
Manick - way to go on that loss!! That's amazing. Don't let the WW liability disclaimer burst your bubble, you deserve to feel proud of that loss. Besides, you've got us to start on the if we see you doing something dangerous Whoa, with 12 miles to work I wouldn't be riding my bike either It's a nice 2 miles away for me, and half of that is downhill! (Also means half is uphill.... which is unfortunate....) And ooh, DH is a cutie in that car
Tarah - I'd love to be able to do that (with the dresses). There's a dept store here with the most GODawful dresses you've ever seen, but it appears to only go up to a 12. So one of my goals is to fit in the hideous dresses at this store and take photos
free - I had a friend who studied abroad in Scotland for a year, I remember her schedule being something crazy like that. Are you studying in England for your entire four years? Congrats on being nearly done! I thought about picking up the WW magazine yesterday - let me know if it has anything good. Those things are kind of hit-or-miss in my experience, either they're really interesting or full of "old news."
keli - Oh keli, you know you're just awesome for wanting to catch up on everyone via the old thread. Makes me feel guily for the times I would just jump in and forget the past few days ever happened I've been reading Michael Pollan's "In Defense of Food," and one of his dietary recommendations is to avoid anything that makes a health claim. Because if it needs to tell you how good it is for you, it probably isn't (who's speaking up for the humble sweet potato? No one!) This only kind of applies to your CL, I totally understand the need to make water taste like something! It's really silly that they've put digestive bacteria into your water now. I think as long as your digestive system is working, you're getting enough. And like Faerie said, any regular yogurt has those helpful bacteria, any yogurt that actually spells it out is just spending marketing dollars. Oh, and those 100 cal packs are evil for me too! Cookies are cookies are cookies, no matter what size the package....
sonja - Glad to hear you're still alive I definitely understand the need to take some time off and focus on listening to your body. It has a lot to say Come back to the plan when you're ready.
Heather - yeah, there are certain places I just can't give input anymore because it bothers me how much people define themselves by their weight. I agree, we all have merit totally independent of how we look. That post by kaplods that Faerie quoted pretty much says everything imho, which is why I never responded in that thread where it first appeared... She said it so well.
Chey - I looked for a mister and bed bath and beyond last night and found nothing I'll have to look when I get up to target next.
MystTrisha - Good luck, hope to see you around the boards!
Faerie - Good luck at your WI!
Okay, my will broke last night. Not regarding food - no, yesterday was wonderfully on-plan. However, I did go.... buy a new scale. "But Jaime!" you must be thinking. "Remember when you hated your scale and it was driving you crazy and making you want to pull your hair out and eat everything in sight because it wasn't moving? Remember when you couldn't keep yourself off it and you gave it away because it was making you insane?" Yeah, yeah. I remember that all too well. But I was talking with DH last night about my increased activity level, and I was thinking that I'd like to know my body fat %. So I used that as an excuse to get a scale. Even though I know that those things' BF% readings are kind of inaccurate. I promised myself, though, that I won't get on more than once a week anyway, and I'll only count the weight I see at my WW meetings. I'm not going to drop a % in BF in three days anyhow, so there's no point in me checking often. And I know now better than I did before that it is the long term choices we make, not the small day-to-day ones, that determine our success. So I think I'm just at a better place mentally now than I was before. I think I can handle it. Here's hoping.
Oh, and I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that I'm at 36% body fat... which is "overfat" of course but not "obese" like my BMI, and it's only 3% away from the healthy range
Then of course DH steps on and gets a reading of 14% body fat. Right in the middle of the healthy range for a man. Grar.
Okay, off to work. Have a good day everyone!
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I'm going to try to catch up, but wow, you've all been busy posting
Jaime: That scale sounds interesting. I don't think I want one. LOL! I have a confession to make. All this time I've been seeing you post about EVOO. I could not, for the life of me, figure out what the heck you were talking about. I finally remembered to Google it today. Duh! Extra Virgin Olive Oil! I kept thinking this was some fancy item that you have in your neck of the woods.
Faerie: can't wait to hear about your weigh-in. I hope all goes well. You've made tremendous progress. What an inspiration you are to all of us!
Manick: Nice car. I'm sure your hubby is proud.
Myst: I can't imagine someone saying I was too thin!
Keli: Those burritos sound yummy! I'm starving right now. I keep telling myself I absolutely cannot eat until noon!
Nothing too exciting to report here. I didn't do much yesterday other than my obligatory morning workout. No excitement last night. I used the excuse that it was too muddy outside after the rain we had gotten all day I didn't work out this morning because I have dance class tonite. I'll be dancing my buns off for 3 hrs straight. I should earn about 7 APs.
Hey girls,
Again, I just read everyone but don't have time for personals.
I do just want to tell you guys that I love this thread!! It is my favorite. As I'm really not coming to 3FC as much (I was starting to feel a bit obsessive...which also means obsessive about my diet/food plans), I notice that when I do come, this is the first and often only board I check.
Just sayin. You girls are awesome. A very wise bunch!!
Well Ladies... I am officially a new grandma! Granddaughter was born at 7:15 a.m. weighing in at 7 lbs and 19" inches long. She has a head of dark brown hair and so far her eyes are grey, but I am guessing they will turn green like her dad's. She is beautiful and I am soooooo proud of our son who took care of her the first few hours of her life like an old pro. He was so confident. I kept flashing back to when he was a gangly 15 year old... all arms and legs and skinny. It was hard not to cry I was so happy for them!
I made it through my tests! That berry tasting stuff was horrid, but not obscenely so (like other gunk I have had to drink). I will find out more next week as to what the results are, but in the meantime I am staying on track!
I realized just a little bit ago, that I hadn't adjusted my points to the next lower level since I had lost 10 lbs! LOL. I was planning grocery shopping on Saturday for next week, planning menus etc, and realized that my points went down! LOL.. I should have done that last week. Oh well... I wasn't dipping into my extra points, so I should be ok.
Suite thanks! He is a cutie I agree! I am one lucky girl, & you should've seen him in his wedding tux! He was totally worth waiting for and I count my blessings every day to have such a great life partner. He is very shy about compliments, has no idea that he is (that) attractive, etc., so I have to find ways to sneak in praises that work for him.
I am a wimp on my bike still, my last ride was 6 miles and my behind was aching! It is great exercise however and I hope that the smaller I get the more confident I will be on my bike. My nieces, age 8 and 10 are moving to a house about 4 miles away and I think it'd be great to ride over there and ride bikes with them this summer! Scale sounds cool! You can always hide it in a place that is a pain to get to if you have to
Paint have fun dancing! What dances are you learning? We did that a couple of years ago before the wedding; I want to take another it was lots of fun!
Keli I've had people say that to me too on the weight...and frankly it is just plain ol' hard work! People always want a quick fix and there just isn't one that you can maintain for very long.
Heather I agree with you, some boards are just loaded with negativity and why subject yourself to that?! I guess it takes time for people to see past their pain, but sometimes it is easier not to read it too much. It is sad actually, and like the poster that Faerie quoted said "loneliness and isolation definitely does not promote weight loss"
For all my griping yesterday I do want to say that I do know ultra-rapid weight loss is not healthy. To do that means you are for sure starving yourself or possibly your muscle mass and the results are that you could gain it all back pretty quick and be in even worse shape if you don't keep up your extreme lifestyle.
Even at a Weight Watchers approved pace I know it is possible to gain it back without vigilance! Permanent weight-loss and adherence is a hard goal to achieve (let alone stick to) and that's why I chose something that really works for me as a lifestyle. One day at a time... slow and steady wins the race and all that!!
MystTrisha Good for you on the C25K! I am working on that but really taking my time. I tend to get shin splints when I try jogging every day so I'm still alternating walk days and jog/walk days. There are whole threads here at 3FC devoted to that! Visit the EXERCISE page.
Hiya Shrink! I agree, this Flex support board rocks!
Chey So excited for you! Cry away, you have every reason to be proud! And you are doing FANTASTIC on WW! Congratulations there too! Keep up the good work. Glad the test wasn't too horrible, and now its over! Enjoy that baby girl! What did they decide to name her?
Hope
Well, as for me I am still OP, still trying to exercise every day, and let me tell ya I'm feelin' it! Sore, and old. I joined in a couple of exercise challenges and so far I am keeping up but it is hard! I made artichokes for dinner last night and had one with leftover fish and a big salad. Tonight is grilled chicken and some sort of green veggie. Then maybe a hot bath and a muscle rub!
“Occasional mystery where did that point come from point”. Love it! And good response to that person. Of course we eat! 
if we see you doing something dangerous 
It's a nice 2 miles away for me, and half of that is downhill! (Also means half is uphill.... which is unfortunate....) And ooh, DH is a cutie in that car 
I'll have to look when I get up to target next.
Good luck, hope to see you around the boards! 
"But Jaime!" you must be thinking. "Remember when you hated your scale and it was driving you crazy and making you want to pull your hair out and eat everything in sight because it wasn't moving? Remember when you couldn't keep yourself off it and you gave it away because it was making you insane?" Yeah, yeah. I remember that all too well. But I was talking with DH last night about my increased activity level, and I was thinking that I'd like to know my body fat %. So I used that as an excuse to get a scale. Even though I know that those things' BF% readings are kind of inaccurate. I promised myself, though, that I won't get on more than once a week anyway, and I'll only count the weight I see at my WW meetings. I'm not going to drop a % in BF in three days anyhow, so there's no point in me checking often. And I know now better than I did before that it is the long term choices we make, not the small day-to-day ones, that determine our success. So I think I'm just at a better place mentally now than I was before. I think I can handle it. Here's hoping. 
So excited for you! Cry away, you have every reason to be proud! 
And you are doing FANTASTIC on WW! Congratulations there too! Keep up the good work. Glad the test wasn't too horrible, and now its over! Enjoy that baby girl! What did they decide to name her?
