Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-16-2012, 03:31 PM   #211  
Senior Member
 
patzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,362

Default

I have a question of the Syntrax whey powder, like chocolate truffle, fuzzy navel, etc..

What is this replacing in the MRC diet? I bought the variety pack, and it says 1/4 cup is 7 grams of protein. The creamy is one package = 15 grams of protein.. Would you take 1/2 cup = close to one creamy?

Chocolate truffle in my iced coffee is delightful...

Thanks
Patzi
patzi is offline  
Old 03-16-2012, 08:38 PM   #212  
Motivated Member
 
bigdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,105

S/C/G: 210/204/180

Height: 5'8"

Default

I count it as a clear since it has no carbs, no fat and no sugar. If you measure out little less than 3/4 scoop which is 70 cal. And approx 17 g protein the Same as clear HNSs which are 70 cal and 15 g protein.
one full scoop is 23 g protein and 100 cal. The main difference is no carbs so wouldn't be a creamy

Works for me!! Has anyone tried the chocolate latte flavor? Rocky is the one that told us about it.......where is she by the way.?

Camaswa. I think they are measuring your fat percentage wrong. That makes no sense. I know when I asked for a copy of my tape that had my fat percentage on it. They had my height wrong??? And had my goal weight at 145 which has never been my goal ever. I love the MRC plan but never believed in their supplements, saliva test and some of the other bs. Sorry but you are doing so good and I don't want you to be discouraged. You wear a size ten now and have a personal trainer, exercise all the time and make great choices daily. AND you threw away not one but two really good boxes of chocolate. That still blows my mind! So tell them to get their sh@@ straight and start praising and encouraging you!!! Their way of measuring fat has to be off.
bigdog is offline  
Old 03-16-2012, 09:06 PM   #213  
Senior Member
 
patzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,362

Default

Thanks Big Dog..Appreciate the info.

Patzi
patzi is offline  
Old 03-17-2012, 10:55 AM   #214  
Motivated Member
 
bigdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,105

S/C/G: 210/204/180

Height: 5'8"

Default

Meant to say I measure so it's equal to calories of the clear HNS. If its more protein that's even better. I really don't care for meat too much so the more protein I can get in the better. I could live on Greek yogurt, eggs, cheese, cottage cheese, protein shakes and bars! Love seafood but get tired of chicken really fast unless it's very spicy or Asian style. Every time my Chef DH cooks it's steak and salad. Or salmon which I don't care for unless it's Asian lacquered! Sometimes I'd much rather have my chocolate strawberry shake! Or Greek yogurt with berries

Hey. Happy St Paddys Day. May the luck of the Irish be with us all! All of my girlfriends are in Savannah today drinking green beer!

P.s. officially at 166 again after my crazy weekend. The extra water really helped and I hope I do not run into any of those girl scouts with their Devil cookies. Haha

Last edited by bigdog; 03-17-2012 at 10:59 AM.
bigdog is offline  
Old 03-17-2012, 11:28 AM   #215  
Member
 
lovetofishandrun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 72

S/C/G: 175.5/155/148

Height: 5'7"

Default

WI yesterday saw a loss of half lb. - better than gaining! Counselor put me on Meta-Balance after she reviewed my log - running 4xs a week and increasing mileage preparing for 10K. Also, strength training 2xs a week, yogalates 2xs a week and now starting to swim 2xs a week. I would appreciate any suggestions from those of you on Meta-Balance. Have a great weekend.
lovetofishandrun is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 04:43 PM   #216  
Senior Member
 
nwcgina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 433

Default

camaswa-Whether you do a "ketogenic" diet or are losing due to calories, you are going to lose some muscle mass, plain and simple. That's how are bodies work. Unless someone does HEAVY weight training (and I mean heavy) you are going to lose some muscle whether your calorie loss came from eating only 800 calories of cheetos or 800 calories of veggies and chicken (although one woudl leave you with a huge malnutrition issue). I've tracked mine myself as I've went along and even with exercise, I've lost muscle. What I initially calculated at my ideal weight for 25% body fat would have been 161, but I'm in the low 150's and right around 30% body fat because of the loss of muscle. I have 2 choices (so do you) to get to the body fat percentage I want...maintain my current weight with healthy eating and change my body compostion through aerobic exercise and strength training or try to lose more weight (which will involve more muscle mass loss) to get to the body fat % I want. I knew intially I just needed to lose some weight even at the expense of muscle. Now I'm at the point the rest needs to be maintaining my weight but adding more exercise to change my body composition. That is my summer goal. It's not going to happen quick like the weight loss did, it will take longer. BUT the huge benefit is that I will look better and as you build muscle you just automatically burn more calories (not to mention burning more calories just from exercise...but don't get the idea it equals a big mac...it's mroe like a banana or chocolate milk treat).

Going "off plan" frequently and then regaining the weight is more of a behavioral issue...if the off plan times were planned and carried out as planned, you are most likely going to carry on being able to PLAN in treats but maintain a healthy eatig plan. But if the off plan times were in response to stress, social situations, or feelings of out of control eating or habit and you haven't sufficiently addressed those issues, then weight regain is more likely (and the bad part is when you regain, the muscle you lost doesnt' come back without exercise, so you are burning fewer calories and look heavier).

On another interesting (although slightly depressing) weight maintenance issue...I've been looking at a lot of the recent research. ONe of the things they've noticed is that in people that have lost weight, no matter how they lost it, the hormones that influence hunger and appetite remain elevated even a year past the weight loss has stopped...and EVEN IF the person regains weight, the appetite is elevated (which is why people often gain weigt back and then some). What this means for me and maintenance, a lifelong eating PLAN is the only way I'm going to maintain. I can't go back to letting my hunger guide me...it will lie to me (especially as an emotional eater). I have to know what calorie range my body will maintain my exercise level and weight and plan my daily eating according to that.

The professor has left the building (but feel free to ask questions).
***********************
lovestofishandrun-With all that exercise you definitely need to be on metabalance. I love it. With your exercise level you may still have days (usually after a long run day) that you are fatigued due to low calories. Be sure to talk to your center. My counselor was great at helping me come up with ideas for timing my snacks/meals around my exercise. Also, you can have a bar for one of your snacks everyday, but I found if I had one everyday I was losing less or stopping loss. I started doing a bar only on heavy exercise days (or half a bar for the "HNS" for one of my snacks plus the given other item). I lost my last 15 on metabalance. It was slower but my mood and exercise thanked me
nwcgina is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 05:17 PM   #217  
Senior Member
 
camaswa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: washington
Posts: 582

S/C/G: 192.5/163.4/160

Height: 5'8"

Default

Gina- got it! Thank you. The counselor swore if I didn't go off plan at all, I would not lose any muscle. She said i would lose 3 pounds a week and all would be fat. Its true I have been dabbling around with eating a little extra this and extra that, but frankly, I never lost 3 pounds per week even at the beginning when I stayed 100 percent on plan. I have never quite trusted that they know much or that the left hand knows what the right is doing. One counselor got me started on stabilization six pounds before my goal, and this other one is now telling me i should have had a much lower goal all along.

But I do agree that 39% bodyfat is too high. And I already am doing some strength training, but not as much cardio as maybe i should. Tomorrow I am leaving for a 4 day business trip, during which time I am going to stay on plan as best i can, and during my downtime I am going to try to decide what I really want to do next. Like maybe commit to 30 more days and refocus like in the beginning, see where that takes my bodyfat, and at the same time, commit to exercise more. That's where I am leaning now. Im just tired of going to the center- its a long drive, the obligation of fitting that in to my schedule makes me feel anxious and I dont feel all that confident in their guidance. On the other hand, i dont want to give up, either. Right now, I am going to stop thinking about it. Its snowing here and i have to pack a bag for 80 degree weather - I have no idea what to pack!
camaswa is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 07:57 PM   #218  
Senior Member
 
nwcgina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 433

Default

MRC isn't the only plan that says if you follow their plan exactly you won't lose any muscle, most say that. And without serious strength training it is physiologically impossible no matter what you eat. Now a low protein high carb diet plan that leads to weight loss, you may lose more muscle because your body can only use protein to rebuild muscle and can't make protein from any other source. So if you don't take in enough protein, you will get more muscle wasting than if you have a diet that is high in protein (plus the higher protein diets lead to greater satiety and less blood sugar spikes which can decrease cravings...so I've found it to be very successful for me, but it's not magic).

**************
I had a girls weekend away to a mom's convention, which meant lots of eating out. I actually did okay. Did a veggie burrito thing one night and didn't eat much of the shell, got a smart one egg sandwich to make for breakfast in the hotel (I wans't on top of things enough to make something and take it with me), took off the bun of my sandwich and stashed the chips and cookies in my bag for DH, and the last meal out was italian. And not a good italian that had fish or chicken choices...just pasta and big bread bowls So I had a little bread and ordered chili. Who orders chili at an Italian restaurant? It was the best choice on the menu and while it wasn't great, it kept me on track.

I start my last week of stabilization this week. Then on to maintenance. I don't know how different my maintenance will look from the last week of stabilization, but for the most part I've felt really satisfied on my stabilization plan...and with the super nice weather I've gotten in a lot of extra exercise. I can easily can an hour of biking, running, or walking on days like this. DD is 5 and today wanted to try riding her bike to her school so she can do it on school days (with me along of course). So I jogged by her while the rode...then she wanted to ride more. So we went a total of 3 miles. I call her my new running buddy.
nwcgina is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 08:22 AM   #219  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
JenB72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 790

Height: 5' 5"

Default

Happy Monday! Had a rather stressful weekend, but didn't let it derail me. The munchkin's allergies are in full effect and with it her "terrible 2's" come out. Cough, major runny nose, and drama, drama, drama. At one point, I looked at my husband and said, "Why am I arguing with a 2 year old?!" Wore me out! The one thing I did have control over was my eating. So, whereas in the past I would use it as an excuse to say, "The heck with it", I didn't this time. It would have been so easy to. I'm 2 pounds from goal and I really, really, really, really, really would love to get there.

Last edited by JenB72; 03-19-2012 at 08:23 AM.
JenB72 is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 10:26 AM   #220  
Senior Member
 
rachels77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 243

S/C/G: 234.5/158/165

Default

Camaswa, Gina, and Jen -

You guys are so inspirational! I love how you handle eating and excerise... and emotional eating. Such a great way to view things.

I'm still working on it. I think I've come to realize this week that my eating will always be an issue, a struggle... but if I go into it with my "eyes wide open" and know my weaknesses, I can address them before it's too late, you know? I know that I'm a stress eater, and I have "oh forget it" moments and I should prepare to avoid them or at least replace them with something healthier... an activity, a blog or journal, or something.

This weekend went much better. I'm also realizing how GREAT I feel without the added weight. I actually did housework AND played a TON with my kids and they LOVED it. I never realized how much they enjoy having an active mommy until this weekend, and that made all the difference....
rachels77 is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 10:35 AM   #221  
bespectacled weirdo
 
Galadreal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Springdale, AR
Posts: 189

S/C/G: 264/220.9/154

Height: 5 foot 4 inches

Default

I had kind of an off weekend. At weigh in on Friday i gained a pound, dispite being crazy strict the week before and not allowing any deviation from plan. They said it was probably water weight, I had hit a pleateau but it was a good sign.

Good sign or not, I went off plan on Saturday and made a reuben sandwich, which is just a st. patricks day tradition with my husband. Of course, we stuck to plan with everything else, 1 slice of 45 cal bread, 1/2 oz swiss, walden farms thousand Island dressing, and 4 oz sourkraut. We just used 4 oz of corned beef (all fat trimmed off) instead of chicken or turkey. I know I should feel really bad about going off (I also ate 2 hershies kisses), and I know the plateaus are normal. But I just can't bring myself to feel bad about it. I got back on track the next day and hopefully this stupid stall out in weight loss will go away soon.
Galadreal is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 12:26 PM   #222  
Member
 
lovetofishandrun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 72

S/C/G: 175.5/155/148

Height: 5'7"

Default

Question about baked oatmeal recipe. Is that quick cooking or old fashioned oatmeal? THANKS
lovetofishandrun is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 01:08 PM   #223  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
JenB72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 790

Height: 5' 5"

Default

Well, I'm bummed. WI at lunch and stayed the same. My counselor wasn't worried at all and said it was probably due to losing 2.5 pounds last Thursday. Given that I have so little to lose, it's just harder now. Here's hoping for something on Thursday.
JenB72 is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 02:32 PM   #224  
Junior Member
 
Baby Doll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 16

S/C/G: 312/312/152

Height: 5' 9"

Default

Happy St. Patty's day all! I got to sign the 20 lb board last Friday. Today, the first person outside of my immediately family noticed I have lost weight. She told me I looked great! This was a tremendous boost because I "behaved myself" and didn't use the holiday weekend as an excuse to overindulge.
Baby Doll is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 05:17 PM   #225  
bespectacled weirdo
 
Galadreal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Springdale, AR
Posts: 189

S/C/G: 264/220.9/154

Height: 5 foot 4 inches

Default

ARGH!!

For 3 weeks I have been. I have been crazy good (ok, except for Saturday, and that was mostly on program). I have not cheated, I have not allowed myself any sugar, I have seen other people in my office (someone was passing out free homemade cookies today) eating all this stuff I want. I want sugar!

The very idea of going home and eating another piece of chicken or turkey, or even steak, just makes me nauseous. I can't choke down any more veggies, raw or cooked. I don't want to eat much of anything, but I would rip someone's arm off and beat them with it for a slice of cake.

This can't be normal. They said these cravings would go away after the first week. And to be honest even though I want cake, the idea of any food makes me feel kind of ill. Nothing sounds even remotely edible. Ok, I would probably not turn down a pepperoni pizza with black olives, but even that (although my mouth would like it) makes me queezy just thinking about it.

I got back my hormone results and they said I am estrogen dominate, which is funny, becuase I have to take birth control due to my testosterone levels being too high becuase of the PCOS. They wanted me to take all this stuff (most of which I could get for free through my husband's company, thank you love). But, I am tired of taking a handfull of pills every morning. I just want a day off.

Does anyone else have these? Does anyone just take a day and say "nope, I need a break", how much has this affected your loss? I know that if you start and stop and cheat it slows it down. But I just want 1 meal and desert.

I can go home and choke down more chicken and broclii, but I am just curious if this is normal or and i just a raving psychotic who's body is evil.
Galadreal is offline  
Closed Thread

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MRC February 2012 Thread JenB72 Metabolic Research Center 339 02-29-2012 11:24 PM
MRC January 2012 Thread JenB72 Metabolic Research Center 407 02-01-2012 07:54 AM
MRC November Thread JenB72 Metabolic Research Center 428 11-30-2011 11:49 PM



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:35 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.