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pattygirl63 08-06-2009 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=Blue Serenity;2862478]You know, this makes me wonder ... there's a diner I love to go that's about an hour away, so it's usually a treat for us to eat there. First of all they have awesome meals and a huge menu but secondly, they have a bakery window loaded with the most sinful looking desserts that I am always way too full to try (but would love to). Meals are huge portions, can hardly ever finish a plate, usually get leftovers to go, so I never get to try the desserts that look so very yummy. I just wonder if a trip is in order. I always joke around saying "we ought to just skip dinner and go straight for dessert" ... why not?[/QUOTE]

Blue - I agree. WHY NOT?

Carolr - Again thanks for the article. You always find such good stuff there at Beyond chocolate. I must be looking in the wrong places.

Blue Serenity 08-06-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pattygirl63 (Post 2862734)

I almost caved in to the "diet mentality" yesterday.

Trish, what do you suppose causes you to go into diet mentality? Are there triggers? Like maybe walking past a mirror or getting frustrated with the scale, feeling out of control around food? Maybe if you focus on recognizing any triggers that cause you to think about turning to a diet and recognize that they are triggers and find a way to deal with them so that they do not blindside you? Just thinking out loud here, and hoping maybe it will help you because it seems this is an area that you have trouble with. :hug:

Bootsie 08-06-2009 11:33 PM

What do you do for exercise and what do you enjoy about it?

I walk with my friend 5 days a week but so far its been 3 days a week. We thought we was walking 2 miles a day, that is what my late friend Lorretta had measured out, but it is 3 Miles! Measured it today!

I like visiting with my friend and walking to keep my body,mind and soul healthy
I also love the flowers along the way [even though there has been no rain to brag about] that God planted along the way, sorta like saying to us," Good Morning Girls!"

flmom23 08-07-2009 08:31 AM

Good Morning ladies! Just stopping by to say hello. I've been studying for a certification exam I wanted to take and took that yesterday so whoo-hoo....no more studying. I'm looking forward to having more time to read and think and exercise and get in touch with myself. We're headed off on vacation in a couple of days and that means 1000 miles in the car both ways. Ugh. Not fun.

Blue Serenity 08-07-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bootsie (Post 2863466)
What do you do for exercise and what do you enjoy about it?

Hi Bootsie. Not much these days. I had been walking on the treadmill quite a bit until it got sluggish and I tried to grease it up with all kinds of stuff that seems to have made it worse! (it's a manual one) Also, occasionally do lots of walking outdoors around town enjoying the scenery. Bought a mini trampoline a while back to try to get some exercise on but that thing hurts my knees. May have to ease back into that someday when I lose some weight (perhaps follow the routine that came with it instead of doing my own thing, seems to be less impact).

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Originally Posted by flmom23 (Post 2863677)
Good Morning ladies! Just stopping by to say hello. I've been studying for a certification exam I wanted to take and took that yesterday so whoo-hoo....no more studying. I'm looking forward to having more time to read and think and exercise and get in touch with myself. We're headed off on vacation in a couple of days and that means 1000 miles in the car both ways. Ugh. Not fun.

Best wishes for your certification, flmom23! I hear you about the long car trip! We got that out of the way earlier this summer, whew! But we've been doing a couple of shorter trips, too. Still lots of sitting time each way (about 7-8 hours.) I like the sight-seeing, tho. If we don't see you again soon, enjoy your trip!

I'm doing OK. Yesterday I think I ate too much (what's new?) lol! I think I just lose focus too easily. Still in subconscious "diet mode." I keep telling myself "I'll be good tomorrow." But then tomorrow comes and I'm not putting myself on a diet, but it's almost like I have to engage in that "last supper" eating as if I'll be going on a diet, even tho I KNOW I'm not getting on one. I guess I still don't trust myself with food. Started re-reading the book over the weekend, haven't picked it up since, need to get back at it. Perhaps check out some more IE web sites for more inspiration. I love the Beyond Chocolate articles Carol posts! Maybe daily doses of IE reminders like that will help me stay focused and get me out of diet fog. Think I'll go hunting for IE sites and make a special bookmark folder for just those.

Trish, how are you?

Have a great one everyone! :sunny:

JulieJ08 08-07-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bootsie (Post 2863466)
What do you do for exercise and what do you enjoy about it?

I do yoga. It's a pretty good workout. Takes an hour to an hour and a half. I had wanted to do it for a long time, and picked it up in earnest when I started losing weight last year. Then this year I got off track and wasn't exercising - but I've done my yoga daily for the past two weeks and my body is starting to thank me for it. I'm stiff and have more pains without it. And it's a good strengthener. I always intended to do not just the exercise part of it, but work on the breathing and meditation too - but never did! I didn't feel bad about that, as I was making *so* many other changes in my life. But now I'm trying to keep my focus on my breath while doing my yoga, instead of letting my mind go helter skelter. It's amazing how *hard* that is to do.

I like it because it does amazing things for your relationship with your body. Because I was very inflexible before and now I'm not :). Because it makes me strong. Because I can do it anywhere (almost). Because I get a mental and spiritual practice all at the same time.

I was running last year too - that's a little harder to pick up again, but I liked what it was doing for me, so I haven't given up on it yet. But it's so hot! And my knee makes me work into it *very* slowly. I'm telling myself I need to do my yoga for say a month first, to strengthen my knees and ankles first :). We'll see.

I like running because it makes me feel so *able* to know I could run 3 miles if I wanted to. Because I tend to get shin splints and knee and hip pains, even when walking, if I don't keep up a regular running practice. Because being a runner makes me feel cool :cool:. Because it makes me sleep better. And because getting up and running before dawn is an amazing feeling.

Blue Serenity 08-07-2009 01:01 PM

Hi again! :wave:

This sure was a timely find for me. Thanks Google. :) For anybody out there struggling with IE (like me), you might want to take a look at this article, some very helpful advice that I'm taking to heart.

NOTE: IE discourages the use of scales and body image to get the process to become natural, HOWEVER, the blogger makes a very good point FOR the use of a scale or other measuring device. More commentary after the article ...

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From Intuitive Eating 2.0.

Well, it took like 25 years of trial and error, but I am a happy eater. I follow no rules. I count no calories. I’m completely over nutrient ratios, meal timing and measuring cups. Plus, as an added bonus, I’m not fat. Any time I’ve flirted with this “intuitive eating” stuff before, I’ve quickly become too fat for my little pants. This time I’m gradually losing. I’m 5′8″ and weigh 135-137 most days. I don’t know my percentage of body fat. It’s possible that I’m losing muscle and brains. I’m not concerned enough to get out the calipers. My Tanita scale tells me that I’m between 14% and 24% body fat. Helpful, eh? It’s like asking a Magic 8 Ball. The readout may as well say “Concentrate and ask again.” Or “Signs point to yes.” All I know is that my yoga pants are loose! Woohoo!

So, why did intuitive eating work this time when it’s destroyed my abs so many times before? I’ve been trying to figure that out. I know that in the past I’ve used intuitive eating as an excuse to binge. I’d turn to it after a bout of really restrictive dieting, or when I couldn’t face my nutrition software, or when I wasn’t accountable to a trainer. My “intuition” would tell me to eat boxes of glazed donuts and sheets of cookies. I’d gain weight, scoff at the total lameness of this “embrace your inner cow” intuitive hoody-hoo, and go right back to obsessive dieting, tracking and measuring. I wrote down every single thing I ate or drank for TWO YEARS. That was not fun, and actually not helpful.

I’m more relaxed now. I don’t make food decisions from a place of frustration and panic. My intuition really likes strawberries. I eat chocolate every day. I like bagels. I like to eat out. I’m not limiting myself to dieter food but I’m very aware of portions. I eat one Cadbury Egg, not six. I eat mini-bagels, not those bakery bagels the size of my head. I understand that a typical restaurant serving is enough to feed four people.

Last time I tried intuitive eating, portion control was my downfall. I believed those books that said to eat as many cookies as I wanted and that eventually I wouldn’t want as many. Right!! Weeks later, I still wanted every cookie that had ever been baked. I was reeling out of control on a blood sugar rollercoaster. The more junk I ate, the more junk I wanted. I was never able to pull it together enough to even maintain my weight, much less lose.

Some things that really helped me this time:

- I weigh myself every day. If you’re not going to count calories or measure your food, you’d better be keeping an eye on something. It could be weight, waist measurement, a caliper pinch, a pair of jeans, but you need some kind of objective feedback. If you choose not to track your food and not to look at any of your measurements, then you’d better go buy some fat pants.

- I eat what I want but I always control portions. Generally, the more I want something, the more I need to watch out. I can play fast and loose with spinach but I’d better take my ice cream in a single-serving container.

- I share. I never used to share before. Sharing is the greatest thing ever! You get to eat whatever you want and make everyone around you fat. Try it! Order the double-fudge super cookie dough caramel delight. Eat three bites and watch your dining companions devour the rest of it like hungry hyenas. Share your French fries. Split the sandwich. Order three tacos and only eat one of them. It’s exhilarating! Plus, I always have great leftovers.

- I strike a nice balance of healthy food and treats. You can’t eat an all-treat diet and look or feel very good. I eat loads of fresh fruits and vegetables every day. I love whole grains. I eat nuts and seeds like I’m a squirrel. I’m a sucker for a big salad. I enjoy lean protein as long as it’s not forced upon me every 2-3 hours. I eat a lot of healthy whole foods but I like to add a Pop Tart or Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup for good measure.

- I don’t eat six times per day, or three times per day, or three meals and two snacks. I don’t follow anybody else’s rules because how does the book or the calculator know what I’m doing or when I’m going to be hungry? It doesn’t. So, I eat when I feel like it. On an active, hungry day I might eat 5-6 times. On a lazy day with restaurant food, I might eat 2-3 times. I’m no longer dumb enough try to force three more meals after lunch at The Cheesecake Factory.

- I grasp the importance of good nutrition. I’m not knocking diet plans or nutrition programs, especially if you’re trying to achieve a sports performance or body comp goal. A little bit of structure can be good. I base my eating on the healthy principles I’ve learned but I don’t allow myself to become a slave to the details. And don’t believe that I can eat as many cookies as I want and still lose weight. Big derrrr there!

- I flow. That’s significant because I used to battle. I battled my weight. I struggled with willpower. I waged a war against fat. I fought with the numbers. I kicked myself when I slipped. My mindset was one big bloody massacre. My fitness goals were always at odds with what I really wanted, which was to relax and eat Cheetos. Now, if I want to relax and eat Cheetos, I do so immediately. No struggle. No stress. No guilt. I know that for my next meal I’ll choose something a little more ab-friendly.
The blue paragraph is me. This is where I'm finding myself now. And I totally agree with the scale thing. In the past I used the scale to measure my weight-loss. But perhaps a new view of the scale is in order. I agree that using it to make sure I'm NOT overeating consistently would be a great help. Had I been friends with my scale over the years instead of treating it as an instrument of doom, maybe I would have naturally put a cap on my overeating. But I didn't. I dreaded the scale and ignored it (between diets) and the result each time I'd step back on it would always be a weight gain. "How'd I get so fat?" I'm taking her advice here for sure, but now I'm not trying to see how much I lost this week, but make sure I'm not gaining over several weeks. (And if I do see a loss ... wonderful!) Refocusing here!

And portions! What can one say about portions that hasn't already been said?!? I have to agree with the blogger again totally! When I lost weight with a form of IE in the past I paid VERY close attention to my portions, something I definitely haven't been doing this time around. I love her advice about sharing the food! Love it!

OK, well I'm outta here for now. The tummy is growling, time for lunch!

JulieJ08 08-07-2009 01:21 PM

Blue Serenity, I'd agree with a lot of what she said too.

Eating whole grains (and not refined grains), lots of veggies, plenty of fruits and nuts and avocado, and little sugar is what makes this *possible* for me. I don't get trying to eat intuitively of stuff that is *designed* to make you *always* *want* *more*. I couldn't do it. But, I can eat healthy foods without making myself go hungry, without counting every last morsel, without feeling guilty when I have dessert, without putting up with food that is so-so.

To some extent, it feels like IE just trades restricting calories for restricting eating when not hungry. I 100% believe that's a better deal, but it's not really any easier, at least at first. It is, however, much more rewarding for me.

Blue Serenity 08-07-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JulieJ08 (Post 2864172)
Blue Serenity, I'd agree with a lot of what she said too.

Eating whole grains (and not refined grains), lots of veggies, plenty of fruits and nuts and avocado, and little sugar is what makes this *possible* for me. I don't get trying to eat intuitively of stuff that is *designed* to make you *always* *want* *more*. I couldn't do it. But, I can eat healthy foods without making myself go hungry, without counting every last morsel, without feeling guilty when I have dessert, without putting up with food that is so-so.

To some extent, it feels like IE just trades restricting calories for restricting eating when not hungry. I 100% believe that's a better deal, but it's not really any easier, at least at first. It is, however, much more rewarding for me.

Hi Julie. Agreed. And I think the bottom line is we each, as individuals, need to find what works for us, that we can live with long-term. I've been reading some of the responses to this blog that are a tad negative and I started second guessing myself, whether I should have posted the article or not. But then I realized that we're all at different phases in this process of becoming intuitive eaters and while some detected "diet mentality" in the blogger's post, I have to stand firm on what I said earlier (about scales and portion control) because for me, at this time in my journey, I am needing this. I have not yet reached a point where I trust myself enough to just throw out everything and eat freely. I've done that and like the blogger I need(ed) fat pants! It helps to have something to aim for ... in my case, no steady gaining of weight and eating less than I am accustomed to. After all, "if you keep doing what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten." So, baby steps for me. I can't do this all in one bite. ;)

carolr3639 08-07-2009 06:50 PM

Hey Blue, that was a great article. Everything in a nutshell. Julie, how did you learn yoga? I don't live anywhere near a gym so I would need a DVD. Thanks.

JulieJ08 08-07-2009 07:45 PM

Carol, I don't know a DVD to recommend. I read lots of different books and read a lot on the internet!

pattygirl63 08-07-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Serenity (Post 2862948)
Trish, what do you suppose causes you to go into diet mentality? Are there triggers? Like maybe walking past a mirror or getting frustrated with the scale, feeling out of control around food? Maybe if you focus on recognizing any triggers that cause you to think about turning to a diet and recognize that they are triggers and find a way to deal with them so that they do not blindside you? Just thinking out loud here, and hoping maybe it will help you because it seems this is an area that you have trouble with. :hug:

I'm not sure what triggered the "diet" thing. I think it is just part of the IE process. However, I took the idea of Response Cards and Advantage Deck from the Beck diet and made them according to IE principles etc and I have to admit that I am doing so much better with things. There seems to be something about reading those, especially the response cards that just puts me into a positive attitude about IE.

Thanks for the thought.

Bootsie 08-07-2009 11:26 PM

Julie it is hot in Texas too and it is getting where I have to force myself to go walking I hate that hill!!! But thank God that he gives me the strength to walk it.We walked again 3 miles today but yesterday in total of walking back and forth to my husbands store I walked not just the 3 miles I walked 11 miles! I drinked a-lot of water and felt water logged last night. I walked a total of 10 miles today and yes I got another blister on my left foot but bought me some men running shoes today, they have a sole about 1 inch thick and feel comfy, also some good sunglasses.
Julie I am going to see if I can learn yoga , I have heard a-lot of people into it around here maybe I can get them to join in. Since it is so hot maybe this would be better for us.

I am so new at this and my book is getting in next Wed they say at the book store so I can learn this a-lot better but right now, I don't know if I can say the site but it has helped me a-lot. What you put on here Blue Serenity is a part like they are teaching us but to get rid of the scale or not to get rid of the scale, That is the question in all our minds. I would say if the scale stresses you out yes , if the scale helps you hey what ever works, do what you need to do for yourself, it is your body and you know what is best for it.
The scales do stress me out, I would rather go by the measuring tape, I just feel more comfortable knowing I am making some progress ,even if the scales say I am not! I had to laugh at my friend this morning she said, I found out how much old man Satan's toe weighed this morning, 2 pounds!

It is good to eat what I want but I am trying to make mine healthy choices and trying hard to listen to my body being full. That is the hardest part but think I am getting it down. Tonight I made a six layer bean dip in a small bowl, all fat free, it should last me a while but the Doritos broke my mouth out so I will have to use tortilla wraps instead. There is some kind of salt on the chips that I just really am allergic too. Knowing that I can have something if I want it is working on the binging part and just gotta have something, is it helping any of you?

pattygirl63 08-08-2009 01:19 AM

Bootsie - I have gotten to the place to where I do not have any cravings or binges. I follow what someone called the 4GR(IE's 4 Golden Rules). 1. When you are hungry - Eat.
2. Eat what you want "not" what you think you should eat.
3. Eat slowly and savor every bite.
4. Stop when you think you are getting full.
Getting your book should help you a lot since it explains a lot for you. I read the book a while back and then got off and tried a diet for a few months. This time I am reading the book much slower and allowing the info and the Principles I'm doing slowly.

This is starting to come together for me.
I have to confess that I've not given up the scales. I did read in the book that you might gain at first, then level off and then the weight would begin to come off. I am at the place right now where I believe am leveling off as I gained about 11 lbs. Then I've lost 2 lbs and I've been at about the same weight now all this week. I'm not hungry as often as I used to be. I'm not eating sweets much any more. Haven't needed or wanted candy, cookies or anything like that now for 2 or 3 days. The voices she talks about in the book are beginning to kick in for me and I am learning what I think and feel.

Everybody have a great week end.

Blue Serenity 08-08-2009 11:23 AM

I'm so glad this is getting easier for you Trish!

Just a funny thought ... how'd they know people would gain weight and then level off and then lose ... without a scale? lol I'm not that in-tune with my body to know what it's doing without a scale, every day feels bloated and fat, and some days bloated and fatter. lol (Trying to keep a sense of humor here.) ;)

Yeah, the scale thing is really personal, Bootsie. It doesn't really stress me out like it used to because I've accepted that I'm not gonna lose 2 pounds a week right now. Maybe somewhere down the road I'll be able to give it up, like when I actually know I'm making some kind of progress on this journey. For now, tho I'm gonna use it just to make sure I'm not steadily gaining.

I had joined a challenge on the 3FC board recently because I thought it would be the motivation I needed to "do" something to lose some weight, but backed out of it because I'm just not losing at a steady rate and don't want to have the high expectation to lose looming over my shoulder every day. Not good for learning to live IE.

Hello everyone else! Hope everybody is enjoying their weekend. :sunny:

pattygirl63 08-08-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Serenity (Post 2865349)
I'm so glad this is getting easier for you Trish!

Just a funny thought ... how'd they know people would gain weight and then level off and then lose ... without a scale? lol I'm not that in-tune with my body to know what it's doing without a scale, every day feels bloated and fat, and some days bloated and fatter. lol (Trying to keep a sense of humor here.) ;)

Yeah, the scale thing is really personal, Bootsie. It doesn't really stress me out like it used to because I've accepted that I'm not gonna lose 2 pounds a week right now. Maybe somewhere down the road I'll be able to give it up, like when I actually know I'm making some kind of progress on this journey. For now, tho I'm gonna use it just to make sure I'm not steadily gaining.

I had joined a challenge on the 3FC board recently because I thought it would be the motivation I needed to "do" something to lose some weight, but backed out of it because I'm just not losing at a steady rate and don't want to have the high expectation to lose looming over my shoulder every day. Not good for learning to live IE.

Hello everyone else! Hope everybody is enjoying their weekend. :sunny:

Blue - They know some people, like me, won't or can't stay off the scales. I'm using a lot of the ideas and the skills that I learned in the Complete Beck Diet book (can't remember full name of book right now). I am one who likes to know what is going on so I decided to also use the idea of weighing daily and use a graph. I didn't think of it until today, but I made my graph this morning and made August 1st my start day. I was so excited to see that I had lost 4 lbs. I thought I had only lost 2 until I made the graph. However, while doing the daily graph, I also confirm daily on one of my Response Cards that I read everyday this little thing I got from the Beck book... "My weight is not who I am. It is not a measure of my worth. It is just a number that gives me imortant information." I also have this written on a 3X5 card taped to the mirror in my bathroom and say it several times a day.

I have begun to listen to the good voices IE says will help us. The Food Anthropologist and the Nurturer is really taking hold and working for me.


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Bootsie wrote It is good to eat what I want but I am trying to make mine healthy choices and trying hard to listen to my body being full. That is the hardest part but think I am getting it down.
Bootsie - I too like to choose healthy foods for my health. I know health problems that run in my family and I like to eat foods that will help me ward off those things. When you get your book you will learn that as you learn to get rid of the Fool Police and the Nutrition Informant that you will develop the help of the Nutritiion Ally. From what I understand the Nutrition Informant becomes your Nutrition Ally when you let it work separate from the Food Police. What I understand this to mean is that you make healthy choices without any guilty. This means that you may make the choice not to eat a healthy food and you will not feel guilty about it. There are a lot of healthy foods I used to eat just because I thought I should eat them because they were healthy. As an Intuitive Eater, I have learne that some of those foods I like and some I don't like as much as I thought I did. Now I choose to eat the ones I like. For example, I ate oatmeal, fruit and yogurt with nuts because it was healthy. Now I eat oatmeal with blueberries, yogurt and nut because I like it. I choose not to change the fruit to something else because I don't want to. I believe that the Nutrition Ally along with the Food Anthropologist and Nurturer voices have helped me to learn that this what I love to eat for breakfast and that it is okay. No longer is it because it is a healthy "diet" food. It is just a food that I thoroughly enjoy eating. My explanation is long, but I hope it helps you until you get your book.

pattygirl63 08-08-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Serenity (Post 2864136)
The blue paragraph is me. This is where I'm finding myself now. And I totally agree with the scale thing. In the past I used the scale to measure my weight-loss. But perhaps a new view of the scale is in order. I agree that using it to make sure I'm NOT overeating consistently would be a great help. Had I been friends with my scale over the years instead of treating it as an instrument of doom, maybe I would have naturally put a cap on my overeating. But I didn't. I dreaded the scale and ignored it (between diets) and the result each time I'd step back on it would always be a weight gain. "How'd I get so fat?" I'm taking her advice here for sure, but now I'm not trying to see how much I lost this week, but make sure I'm not gaining over several weeks. (And if I do see a loss ... wonderful!) Refocusing here!

And portions! What can one say about portions that hasn't already been said?!? I have to agree with the blogger again totally! When I lost weight with a form of IE in the past I paid VERY close attention to my portions, something I definitely haven't been doing this time around. I love her advice about sharing the food! Love it!

Blue - Thanks for this article. I copied it to my Journal for today. I've learned that I need the scale because in the past, when I stayed away from the scales it meant I was gaining. I have a new and better relationship with my scales.

On portions? I do weigh some things when necessary. Another thing that is working for me with portions is that sometimes when I am taste eating along with the biological eating that I want to eat more, but I'm not really hungry. I've learned to tell myself that I can have more later. I wait a few minutes or find something else to do and I usually forget about the food completely. If I find that I really do want some more then I give myself permission to eat it.

Julie - I find that eating the healthier foods you mention seems to stay with me longer and keeps me from being hungry. I don't have any cravings. In the IE book one of the authors, Elyse Resch says that she 10% of the foods eats is what she calls "Play" foods and no guilt when she does. The other 90% is healthy foods. That is pretty much my goal.

I think it is good to learn IE after dieting. I find that the healthy foods are what seems to win out because we have a knowledge of how good we feel when we eat healthy. It also helps to know that it is okay to eat the Play foods and not feel bad about it.

I am thrilled that other people can find diet programs that work for them. They didn't work for me any more. I am so thankful for learning about IE and that it works great for me. I found it about the time that my doctor told me to stop dieting because they don't work. I thought he was nuts and kept trying to lose with diets and I kept gaining. I finally a decided that I had to "really" give IE a chance to work for me. I thank God because I think God led me to this point with IE.

As Dr. Cherry on TBN used to say... Everyone has to find their own Path to health. IE is mine.

Y'all have a good day.

carolr3639 08-08-2009 07:33 PM

Hi all. Hot here today. Lots of company again which means lots of cooking. I'm ok with that.

Blue Serenity 08-08-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pattygirl63 (Post 2865454)
I've learned to tell myself that I can have more later. I wait a few minutes or find something else to do and I usually forget about the food completely. If I find that I really do want some more then I give myself permission to eat it.

That's a very important part of IE. I've been known to "Last Supper" because I didn't do what you just said. We really do have to retrain our minds, don't we!

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Originally Posted by pattygirl63 (Post 2865454)
I found it about the time that my doctor told me to stop dieting because they don't work.

:eek: Whoa! That's unusual, but wonderful!

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Originally Posted by pattygirl63 (Post 2865403)
I have begun to listen to the good voices IE says will help us. The Food Anthropologist and the Nurturer is really taking hold and working for me.

I had forgotten all about all those positive voices! I really need to get back in this book!

Question for everyone: When you follow IE, do you ever feel like people are judging you for eating "normal" (as opposed to eating diet food or avoiding certain things)?

Not that it really matters what somebody thinks about me, but I often feel like people are thinking "Why is she eating that ... she really needs to be on a diet."

Hi Carol, hope you're enjoying your company!


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Bootsie 08-08-2009 11:05 PM

Trish thanks for the advice . I do like the no fat things a-lot better than the other, they just seem to taste better to me. I have been feeling so much better health wise since I started this diet and been walking with my friend but I sure dread that hill every morning.

I do like bread but have been eating tortilla's because it concerned me that God told them not eat yeast in the old testament but I found out why. It took 3 or 4 hours for the bread to rise and he wanted them to be ready to go , when he said go and parted the water! So I will start eating bread again.Ha! I only got 4.5 miles in today.

pattygirl63 08-09-2009 02:01 PM

More Journey Sharing
 
Hi Ladies,

Yesterday I shared about me using the daily weight graph I learned to do from the Beck diet book. I am thrilled to report on what I have learned from doing this. Again, Blue Serenity thanks for that article you shared. It has really helped me relax with doing this.

When I came back to IE, I switched from a lowcarb diet that allowed me to eat whenever I was hungry and until satisfied, but I was allowed certain carbs every 5 hours and we had to count the carbs no more than 5 grams. I gained doing that just as the author warned us that we would. We were not to weigh for 8 weeks. I want to say that if I was going to diet that I would go back to that one. Any way I decided that if I was going to gain that I might as well give IE a chance. At least I could eat when I was hungry and have the carbs without Phases and/or Steps and no measuring and counting calories or carbs etc. I had started reading IE book again and read that you would gain at first, level off and then should start losing at a steady rate when your body knew it could trust you not to diet and starve it any more. So my weight gain was actually on the diet. I started my graph on August the 1st with the 8 lbs I had gained on the diet. This is when I switched to IE. Let me say here that I was really scared when I switched to IE. 6 years ago I had lost about 76 lbs. I had really struggled not to gain all that weight back and on August 1st, I was only 9 lbs away from doing just that. If I gained weight on IE, there was a good chance that I just might gain back those 9 lbs and more putting me be back where I started about 8 years ago. But I was desparate.

Ladies I've learned in 9 days that IE WORKS just like the book says it will.:carrot: Doing my graph shows that by the time I came back to IE that I was at my high weight. Thank God, I leveled off at that weight for 2 days. Then I lost 2 lbs and stayed there for 4 days and then yesterday dropped 2 lbs and 2 more today. Of course, that does not mean I'll lose 2 lbs a day or lose any weight everyday. There will be days when I will level for days while my body adjusts to what is going on. That is not the point to sharing this. The point is that IE WORKS.

Another thing I want to share is why the scales works for me. But 1st let me say that some people don't need the scales. In fact the scales may be dangerous for some people to use the scales as it blocks their success as it messes with their minds and eating. So I'm not saying everyone should use the scales. The lady on through think and thin thread NEVER weighs even when she goes to the doctor she refuses to be weighed. So it is one of those "what works for you" things. As for me, they are my helper. Here's why. As my body was adjusting to the IE way of eating, I felt heavy, bloated and "fat". There were times I just knew that I had eaten too much and as you know I struggled a few of those days with going back to the "diet" route. Reading the book, weighing and charting the graph helped me to stay committed to IE. I felt I had to give it a one full month chance. I think if I hadn't had the weight graph, I might not have stuck it out. Just my personality. I am so thrilled to say that this experiment with the graph has proved that IE works exactly like the book says it will. I can honestly say that No matter whether you choose to use the scales or not, you can trust the IE plan to work for you.

Also, let me add one thing about the article Blue shared. That person learned to do IE the way that it would work for her. IE is not a group of a lot of rules like "diets" have. From what I understand about IE is this. When done as intended, it will NOT be a bunch of do's and don't rules. It should be a way of eating that just "flows" naturally because we have learned to listen to our bodies and work with what is NORMAL for us individually.

Other than the headaches I've had since Friday, today I feel good weight wise. I don't have that heavy, bloated feeling. No cravings and hunger is really changing. Didn't eat as many times or as much yesterday. So I think my "normal" way eating is showing up. Those good voices are really helping as well as the Beck skills that I've incorported with IE.

carolr Enjoy your company.

Everybody else:wave:

Y'all have a good Sunday.

Bootsie 08-10-2009 10:10 AM

Trish tell me some more about the Beck book, it sounds like I should get it also because it sounds like you can combine the Beck and the Intuitive Eating together and it works, right? Congratulations on your weight loss!
:carrot:Yeah Trish!!!!

pattygirl63 08-10-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bootsie (Post 2867699)
Trish tell me some more about the Beck book, it sounds like I should get it also because it sounds like you can combine the Beck and the Intuitive Eating together and it works, right? Congratulations on your weight loss!
:carrot:Yeah Trish!!!!

Bootsie-I got The Complete Beck Diet for Life book when I bought mine. I ordered it from Amazon.com and I had only heard about it from a friend. I got it because it was the newest book. It has a suggested calorie diet in it. If I had known, I would have just gotten the earlier book which I thing is called The Beck Solution because I think having the diet in there threw me off of IE. When she wrote the new book she added a diet because some of her followers had asked for a diet. I understand that her original book was written to work along with any diet. She later noticed that she also has book Beck Solutions workbook. If I had it to do over and knew what I know now, I probably would have gotten that one. You can go to Amazon.com and see the different books she has and choose which one would work for you. I believe it has been a big help for me.

Fly by today ladies. Fighting sinus issues today. Meds make me feel tired.

Everybody have a great day.



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Bootsie 08-11-2009 12:56 AM

Thanks Trish, I will check it out and see if our book store has it also. Hope you get to feeling better.

carolr3639 08-11-2009 05:31 PM

Got my eyes tested today. I have cataracts but not too bad yet for which I am thankful. I hope I can make it 5 more years because I don't have insurance and maybe medicare will pay for it. I guess with IE you finally just kind of forget about what you eat. Lately it has been that way for me. Too much going on to think much about eating....except for those lovely garden tomatoes. We had a big Sun. dinner this past Sun. and for once in a long time it tasted really good to me. Don't now why. Maybe I was really hungry. ha!

pattygirl63 08-12-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by carolr3639 (Post 2870320)
Got my eyes tested today. I have cataracts but not too bad yet for which I am thankful. I hope I can make it 5 more years because I don't have insurance and maybe medicare will pay for it. I guess with IE you finally just kind of forget about what you eat. Lately it has been that way for me. Too much going on to think much about eating....except for those lovely garden tomatoes. We had a big Sun. dinner this past Sun. and for once in a long time it tasted really good to me. Don't now why. Maybe I was really hungry. ha!

Carol - When I saw the eye doctor years ago before we moved to SC, the doctor saw something on my eye that could be the start of someting. She told me to take Bilberry and to wear the sunglasses that come around on the side of the eys.. She felt it would help slow things down. I have done that every since she told me that 6 years ago. When I got my eyes check last year, the doctor said that I am one of the few people who has a mole on my eye and it was nothing to worry about. I forgot the ratio of people who has it but not uncommon. Any way, maybe the bilberry and the sunglasses will slow things down for you. I do it hoping I will never have cataracts.

carolr3639 08-12-2009 06:14 PM

Thanks, Trish. I don't go out in the sun because of sarcoidosis and have taken bilberry and lutein for quite awhile. The only time I'm outside is right before sunset to work in the garden. That is a beautiful time of day. I guess sarcoidosis is a precursor for cataracts and glaucoma. I'm really thankful that I don't have glaucoma. My mom had macular degeneration and was nearly blind before she died at age 90. I can give the Lord all the glory because I have had this since I was 28 and am now 60 and get along fairly well. Plus we had 10 kids along the way that are a real joy. Next week our son is getting married. That leaves only the youngest girl not married.

pattygirl63 08-12-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by carolr3639 (Post 2871972)
Thanks, Trish. I don't go out in the sun because of sarcoidosis and have taken bilberry and lutein for quite awhile. The only time I'm outside is right before sunset to work in the garden. That is a beautiful time of day. I guess sarcoidosis is a precursor for cataracts and glaucoma. I'm really thankful that I don't have glaucoma. My mom had macular degeneration and was nearly blind before she died at age 90. I can give the Lord all the glory because I have had this since I was 28 and am now 60 and get along fairly well. Plus we had 10 kids along the way that are a real joy. Next week our son is getting married. That leaves only the youngest girl not married.

Congrats to the son getting married. And I'll keep you in my prayers. I have a dear friend back in TX who has macular degeration and is considered legally blind although she can see images. She has been in my prayers for years as she and I pray for God heal her. She has beautiful music ministry and writes her on songs of Praise. I will pray with you that your eyes do not get any worse. I also understand about the insurane, etc.

carolr3639 08-13-2009 07:49 PM

A testimony from Beyond Chocolate.

Before Beyond Chocolate I'd tried Weight Watchers many times, Slimming World and Atkins. I really was a serial yo-yo dieter.

I would do great on WeightWatchers as long as I was losing the weight (although I never made my target!) then everything would go to pot the second I couldn't cope anymore and instead of eating "sensibly" I just had to have whatever I had deprived myself of when I was on following the plan. I used to binge at almost every occasion - if I was happy, celebrating, miserable, cheering myself up, anxious about something - any excuse was good to go off the rails. At Christmas I used to eat till I felt sick, then the second the feeling subsided I'd cram more in to the point of feeling sick again, always telling myself I would start again in January and that I was "making the most" of the festivities. Basically I would spend 6 months losing weight and 3 months putting it all back on. Then I'd start again.

I would force myself to exercise when I was on a diet because obviously that meant I "earned" more chocolate or lost more weight. I used to force myself to go to classes I could just about put up with for weeks on end and LOVED the compliments I got.

When the diets worked I would allow myself to spend money on new clothes and marveled at the difference in my shape. When I put the weight back on I would hide under jeans and baggy jumpers - even in summer. I would rather have fainted of heat exhaustion rather than let anybody laugh at my rolls of fat.

Throughout this whole period of time, from the age of 8 to 24, I was convinced that it was ME who was at fault, it was ME who couldn't stick to the diets, ME who wasn't disciplined enough to do enough exercise and ME who had to eat the whole bar of chocolate and couldn't just eat it "in moderation". Now I know it was the diets that failed me, not the other way round.

NOW

I eat WHAT I want, WHEN I want, I move when I want, in a way that I enjoy and AM STILL LOSING WEIGHT! I eat all foods and enjoy them and thank goodness I've lost that sense of guilt that I'm failing myself by eating certain foods. Now I know that food is there to be enjoyed.

When I move my body I know that I'm smiling because I only do it if I fancy doing it AND MY BODY IS SINGING. I don't force myself to do it - even when people nag me or push me. I know that I will want to do it again when my body is ready.

My confidence has increased no end. I've come to realise that unless I'm willing to do press-ups and sit-ups every day and go without food for the rest of my life - and I already know that, for me, that's not a sustainable option, then this is me. Even if I were to do those things I would never look like any of the actresses or models because I am not them. I now know that I am beautiful. Not in a Cameron Diaz, Eva Langoria or Kirsten Dunst type way but in a Kay Alderton, living my stressful but fun life, studying every day for my career, working full-time, eating all the foods I love, girlfriend of an army recruit kind of way.

I've been doing Beyond Chocolate for just over a year and although I have lost weight (I have no idea how much because I haven't weighed myself since I went on the workshop) for me that isn't the most important thing any more. For a while it was but now I think, even if I hadn't lost the weight I have, I couldn't ever go back to the prison of dieting. I have found freedom!

pattygirl63 08-14-2009 12:11 AM

:wave:Ladies,

Just checking in. Hope everybody has had a good day.

Carolr Thanks for the article. I look forward to the day that can be my testimony.

Bootsie 08-14-2009 12:46 AM

Oh Carol thank You for sharing. I got my book today and been reading but have not learned anything new yet. Just started the 3rd chapter. I was wondering today why there was not a diet involving God in the Faith Group and when I came on tonight there was one there! It sounds like Intuitive but having Bible Study with it, it's great! It just seems like God knows what I am thinking lately, wish he would bring a-lot of rain here on our ranch and Mr. Lathams ranch! I am so tired of breathing dust. I sure would like to get my feet muddy!

pattygirl63 08-14-2009 01:42 PM

Thanks Bootsie for sharing about the new Bible Study thread. I went and read some of the material and ended up printing out the study materials. What a great addition to my eating plan. I too believe it is an answer to prayer. Isn't it wonderful how God prepares us and then leads to just what we need.

All you Intuitive Eaters out there:wave: and have a great day.

Bootsie 08-14-2009 04:06 PM

Trish he is so awesome, now if I could just converse with him on this lack of rain. I know he cares , for every morning he has a new flower waiting for me on my walk. This is his land but it looks like the devils so burnt!
Reading this I just got to thinking that flower is a way telling me he still is in control and the rain will come, to have faith in him!

carolr3639 08-14-2009 06:20 PM

Bootsie, we lived in Texas for one month in 1972 when my oldest girl was one. One night we went to play tennis and she started to cry. She wouldn't stop so we took her home and put her in the tub still crying. Finally we gave her a drink of water and that was it!!! The air conditioner never shut off the whole time we were there. At 9 pm it was 91 degrees! I can remember that the only green place was in the towns. The country side was barren. You should come visit WI sometime. We have times of little rain but generally not. I tried to print the Bible study but can't get our printer to work. My DH will help me tonight. It sounds so good.

Bootsie 08-14-2009 08:29 PM

Carol someday I am going to do some traveling but right now I am having trouble getting to Marfa Texas to see my grandchildren. I know that Jesus loves us and he will send us rain soon ,its not long off. I will be:carrot:shouting with joy, praising him!:woohoo:

Kelli 08-14-2009 10:37 PM

Hi Ladies!

I am new to this thread, but it has blessed me so much, thank you. I have been trying to figure out how I could share what God has shown me. I really don't want to publish it, because I think the grammar problems would definitely be a problem for a publicist...:o

I have a website, but it's pretty amateurish, and I don't know how to advertise it. People now days are leary, and when I say it's a free study, I think they think there are strings attached.

Because it's a 13 week study you do 5 days a week, The whole study is 475 pages long... whew :^: . So I don't think it is practical to keep posting it here...Anyway, I would appreciate prayer for wisdom and patience.

AND I am praying for rain in Big beautiful Texas bootsie!!! ;)

Love, Kelli

carolr3639 08-15-2009 09:28 AM

Hi, Kelly. It finally dawned on me that God did not create our bodies to lose weight. He made them to survive famine so that is why years of dieting didn't work for me. For me, God's diet is hunger and satisfaction. If you stick with that your appetite will lower and you will gradually lose weight and not gain it back. I started about where you did and and am about the same weight as you now. Sometimes I get discouraged because it is so slow. And once in awhile I get worried that I might be gaining it back but I'm not. I tried on the wedding dress I have for my son's wedding next week and it still fits. Whew! Glad you are here and I'd be really interested in your book if you ever get it done. I wouldn't mind the grammar errors.

pattygirl63 08-15-2009 03:38 PM

Keliie - :welcome3: to Intuitive Eating thread. I am thoroughly enjoying your lessons. I hope we can find a way to continue it. So much wisdom and knowledge that God has given you with understanding of how to teach it through a book. I'm sure the Lord will show you how to promote it. I'm not pc inclined. I do wish I knew how to help you set up a website etc. I definitely will be praying that God will help you find a way. Did you think about doing a Yahoo group? Not sure how to do it, but if you decide to do it I sure want to be part of it.

Bootsie - I remember those hot days in TX. Did I tell you that I lived in TX until I married my DH over 6 years ago? I moved to FL when I married him and we had all those hurricanes. Then we moved to SC and our second year here we were in a drought. This year we have had rain but it has been slow. I definitely pray TX gets rain soon. I love the Flower from the Lord. I love roses as did my Mama. One time when my DH who now makes his home in Heaven and were having hard time, we came home from work and I saw 3 roses as I got out of the car. It was winter and way too cold for flowers. I had been very close to my Mama and his. Without thinking I said, "Oh Bill, look. Mother and Mama have sent us 2 roses". Of course, I have no scripture for that, but in my heart I knew that God had everything in control and He would take care of us and He did.

Carolr - :wave:

Blue - How are you doing? I hope all is well with you.

Hope Everybody has a great weekend.

Kelli 08-15-2009 06:33 PM

Thanks for the welcome Trish. I have never heard of Yahoo groups before, so I googled (binged) it (My hubby is a contractor for Microsoft). Anyway, you're brilliant! I signed up to create a group and in the process of setting up. Thanks again!

Love, Kelli

pattygirl63 08-15-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelli (Post 2877064)
Thanks for the welcome Trish. I have never heard of Yahoo groups before, so I googled (binged) it (My hubby is a contractor for Microsoft). Anyway, you're brilliant! I signed up to create a group and in the process of setting up. Thanks again!

Love, Kelli

That is Great Kelli! I am one who will be there. I'm looking forward to it. Don't you love how our Lord answers our prayers so quickly? Those quick answered prayers are what gives us the confidence to stand firm waiting for Him to handle the slow coming answers.


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