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[QUOTE=Blue Serenity;2862478]You know, this makes me wonder ... there's a diner I love to go that's about an hour away, so it's usually a treat for us to eat there. First of all they have awesome meals and a huge menu but secondly, they have a bakery window loaded with the most sinful looking desserts that I am always way too full to try (but would love to). Meals are huge portions, can hardly ever finish a plate, usually get leftovers to go, so I never get to try the desserts that look so very yummy. I just wonder if a trip is in order. I always joke around saying "we ought to just skip dinner and go straight for dessert" ... why not?[/QUOTE]
Blue - I agree. WHY NOT? Carolr - Again thanks for the article. You always find such good stuff there at Beyond chocolate. I must be looking in the wrong places. |
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What do you do for exercise and what do you enjoy about it?
I walk with my friend 5 days a week but so far its been 3 days a week. We thought we was walking 2 miles a day, that is what my late friend Lorretta had measured out, but it is 3 Miles! Measured it today! I like visiting with my friend and walking to keep my body,mind and soul healthy I also love the flowers along the way [even though there has been no rain to brag about] that God planted along the way, sorta like saying to us," Good Morning Girls!" |
Good Morning ladies! Just stopping by to say hello. I've been studying for a certification exam I wanted to take and took that yesterday so whoo-hoo....no more studying. I'm looking forward to having more time to read and think and exercise and get in touch with myself. We're headed off on vacation in a couple of days and that means 1000 miles in the car both ways. Ugh. Not fun.
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I'm doing OK. Yesterday I think I ate too much (what's new?) lol! I think I just lose focus too easily. Still in subconscious "diet mode." I keep telling myself "I'll be good tomorrow." But then tomorrow comes and I'm not putting myself on a diet, but it's almost like I have to engage in that "last supper" eating as if I'll be going on a diet, even tho I KNOW I'm not getting on one. I guess I still don't trust myself with food. Started re-reading the book over the weekend, haven't picked it up since, need to get back at it. Perhaps check out some more IE web sites for more inspiration. I love the Beyond Chocolate articles Carol posts! Maybe daily doses of IE reminders like that will help me stay focused and get me out of diet fog. Think I'll go hunting for IE sites and make a special bookmark folder for just those. Trish, how are you? Have a great one everyone! :sunny: |
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I like it because it does amazing things for your relationship with your body. Because I was very inflexible before and now I'm not :). Because it makes me strong. Because I can do it anywhere (almost). Because I get a mental and spiritual practice all at the same time. I was running last year too - that's a little harder to pick up again, but I liked what it was doing for me, so I haven't given up on it yet. But it's so hot! And my knee makes me work into it *very* slowly. I'm telling myself I need to do my yoga for say a month first, to strengthen my knees and ankles first :). We'll see. I like running because it makes me feel so *able* to know I could run 3 miles if I wanted to. Because I tend to get shin splints and knee and hip pains, even when walking, if I don't keep up a regular running practice. Because being a runner makes me feel cool :cool:. Because it makes me sleep better. And because getting up and running before dawn is an amazing feeling. |
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This sure was a timely find for me. Thanks Google. :) For anybody out there struggling with IE (like me), you might want to take a look at this article, some very helpful advice that I'm taking to heart. NOTE: IE discourages the use of scales and body image to get the process to become natural, HOWEVER, the blogger makes a very good point FOR the use of a scale or other measuring device. More commentary after the article ... Quote:
And portions! What can one say about portions that hasn't already been said?!? I have to agree with the blogger again totally! When I lost weight with a form of IE in the past I paid VERY close attention to my portions, something I definitely haven't been doing this time around. I love her advice about sharing the food! Love it! OK, well I'm outta here for now. The tummy is growling, time for lunch! |
Blue Serenity, I'd agree with a lot of what she said too.
Eating whole grains (and not refined grains), lots of veggies, plenty of fruits and nuts and avocado, and little sugar is what makes this *possible* for me. I don't get trying to eat intuitively of stuff that is *designed* to make you *always* *want* *more*. I couldn't do it. But, I can eat healthy foods without making myself go hungry, without counting every last morsel, without feeling guilty when I have dessert, without putting up with food that is so-so. To some extent, it feels like IE just trades restricting calories for restricting eating when not hungry. I 100% believe that's a better deal, but it's not really any easier, at least at first. It is, however, much more rewarding for me. |
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Hey Blue, that was a great article. Everything in a nutshell. Julie, how did you learn yoga? I don't live anywhere near a gym so I would need a DVD. Thanks.
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Carol, I don't know a DVD to recommend. I read lots of different books and read a lot on the internet!
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Julie it is hot in Texas too and it is getting where I have to force myself to go walking I hate that hill!!! But thank God that he gives me the strength to walk it.We walked again 3 miles today but yesterday in total of walking back and forth to my husbands store I walked not just the 3 miles I walked 11 miles! I drinked a-lot of water and felt water logged last night. I walked a total of 10 miles today and yes I got another blister on my left foot but bought me some men running shoes today, they have a sole about 1 inch thick and feel comfy, also some good sunglasses.
Julie I am going to see if I can learn yoga , I have heard a-lot of people into it around here maybe I can get them to join in. Since it is so hot maybe this would be better for us. I am so new at this and my book is getting in next Wed they say at the book store so I can learn this a-lot better but right now, I don't know if I can say the site but it has helped me a-lot. What you put on here Blue Serenity is a part like they are teaching us but to get rid of the scale or not to get rid of the scale, That is the question in all our minds. I would say if the scale stresses you out yes , if the scale helps you hey what ever works, do what you need to do for yourself, it is your body and you know what is best for it. The scales do stress me out, I would rather go by the measuring tape, I just feel more comfortable knowing I am making some progress ,even if the scales say I am not! I had to laugh at my friend this morning she said, I found out how much old man Satan's toe weighed this morning, 2 pounds! It is good to eat what I want but I am trying to make mine healthy choices and trying hard to listen to my body being full. That is the hardest part but think I am getting it down. Tonight I made a six layer bean dip in a small bowl, all fat free, it should last me a while but the Doritos broke my mouth out so I will have to use tortilla wraps instead. There is some kind of salt on the chips that I just really am allergic too. Knowing that I can have something if I want it is working on the binging part and just gotta have something, is it helping any of you? |
Bootsie - I have gotten to the place to where I do not have any cravings or binges. I follow what someone called the 4GR(IE's 4 Golden Rules). 1. When you are hungry - Eat.
2. Eat what you want "not" what you think you should eat. 3. Eat slowly and savor every bite. 4. Stop when you think you are getting full. Getting your book should help you a lot since it explains a lot for you. I read the book a while back and then got off and tried a diet for a few months. This time I am reading the book much slower and allowing the info and the Principles I'm doing slowly. This is starting to come together for me. I have to confess that I've not given up the scales. I did read in the book that you might gain at first, then level off and then the weight would begin to come off. I am at the place right now where I believe am leveling off as I gained about 11 lbs. Then I've lost 2 lbs and I've been at about the same weight now all this week. I'm not hungry as often as I used to be. I'm not eating sweets much any more. Haven't needed or wanted candy, cookies or anything like that now for 2 or 3 days. The voices she talks about in the book are beginning to kick in for me and I am learning what I think and feel. Everybody have a great week end. |
I'm so glad this is getting easier for you Trish!
Just a funny thought ... how'd they know people would gain weight and then level off and then lose ... without a scale? lol I'm not that in-tune with my body to know what it's doing without a scale, every day feels bloated and fat, and some days bloated and fatter. lol (Trying to keep a sense of humor here.) ;) Yeah, the scale thing is really personal, Bootsie. It doesn't really stress me out like it used to because I've accepted that I'm not gonna lose 2 pounds a week right now. Maybe somewhere down the road I'll be able to give it up, like when I actually know I'm making some kind of progress on this journey. For now, tho I'm gonna use it just to make sure I'm not steadily gaining. I had joined a challenge on the 3FC board recently because I thought it would be the motivation I needed to "do" something to lose some weight, but backed out of it because I'm just not losing at a steady rate and don't want to have the high expectation to lose looming over my shoulder every day. Not good for learning to live IE. Hello everyone else! Hope everybody is enjoying their weekend. :sunny: |
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I have begun to listen to the good voices IE says will help us. The Food Anthropologist and the Nurturer is really taking hold and working for me. Quote:
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On portions? I do weigh some things when necessary. Another thing that is working for me with portions is that sometimes when I am taste eating along with the biological eating that I want to eat more, but I'm not really hungry. I've learned to tell myself that I can have more later. I wait a few minutes or find something else to do and I usually forget about the food completely. If I find that I really do want some more then I give myself permission to eat it. Julie - I find that eating the healthier foods you mention seems to stay with me longer and keeps me from being hungry. I don't have any cravings. In the IE book one of the authors, Elyse Resch says that she 10% of the foods eats is what she calls "Play" foods and no guilt when she does. The other 90% is healthy foods. That is pretty much my goal. I think it is good to learn IE after dieting. I find that the healthy foods are what seems to win out because we have a knowledge of how good we feel when we eat healthy. It also helps to know that it is okay to eat the Play foods and not feel bad about it. I am thrilled that other people can find diet programs that work for them. They didn't work for me any more. I am so thankful for learning about IE and that it works great for me. I found it about the time that my doctor told me to stop dieting because they don't work. I thought he was nuts and kept trying to lose with diets and I kept gaining. I finally a decided that I had to "really" give IE a chance to work for me. I thank God because I think God led me to this point with IE. As Dr. Cherry on TBN used to say... Everyone has to find their own Path to health. IE is mine. Y'all have a good day. |
Hi all. Hot here today. Lots of company again which means lots of cooking. I'm ok with that.
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Question for everyone: When you follow IE, do you ever feel like people are judging you for eating "normal" (as opposed to eating diet food or avoiding certain things)? Not that it really matters what somebody thinks about me, but I often feel like people are thinking "Why is she eating that ... she really needs to be on a diet." Hi Carol, hope you're enjoying your company! . |
Trish thanks for the advice . I do like the no fat things a-lot better than the other, they just seem to taste better to me. I have been feeling so much better health wise since I started this diet and been walking with my friend but I sure dread that hill every morning.
I do like bread but have been eating tortilla's because it concerned me that God told them not eat yeast in the old testament but I found out why. It took 3 or 4 hours for the bread to rise and he wanted them to be ready to go , when he said go and parted the water! So I will start eating bread again.Ha! I only got 4.5 miles in today. |
More Journey Sharing
Hi Ladies,
Yesterday I shared about me using the daily weight graph I learned to do from the Beck diet book. I am thrilled to report on what I have learned from doing this. Again, Blue Serenity thanks for that article you shared. It has really helped me relax with doing this. When I came back to IE, I switched from a lowcarb diet that allowed me to eat whenever I was hungry and until satisfied, but I was allowed certain carbs every 5 hours and we had to count the carbs no more than 5 grams. I gained doing that just as the author warned us that we would. We were not to weigh for 8 weeks. I want to say that if I was going to diet that I would go back to that one. Any way I decided that if I was going to gain that I might as well give IE a chance. At least I could eat when I was hungry and have the carbs without Phases and/or Steps and no measuring and counting calories or carbs etc. I had started reading IE book again and read that you would gain at first, level off and then should start losing at a steady rate when your body knew it could trust you not to diet and starve it any more. So my weight gain was actually on the diet. I started my graph on August the 1st with the 8 lbs I had gained on the diet. This is when I switched to IE. Let me say here that I was really scared when I switched to IE. 6 years ago I had lost about 76 lbs. I had really struggled not to gain all that weight back and on August 1st, I was only 9 lbs away from doing just that. If I gained weight on IE, there was a good chance that I just might gain back those 9 lbs and more putting me be back where I started about 8 years ago. But I was desparate. Ladies I've learned in 9 days that IE WORKS just like the book says it will.:carrot: Doing my graph shows that by the time I came back to IE that I was at my high weight. Thank God, I leveled off at that weight for 2 days. Then I lost 2 lbs and stayed there for 4 days and then yesterday dropped 2 lbs and 2 more today. Of course, that does not mean I'll lose 2 lbs a day or lose any weight everyday. There will be days when I will level for days while my body adjusts to what is going on. That is not the point to sharing this. The point is that IE WORKS. Another thing I want to share is why the scales works for me. But 1st let me say that some people don't need the scales. In fact the scales may be dangerous for some people to use the scales as it blocks their success as it messes with their minds and eating. So I'm not saying everyone should use the scales. The lady on through think and thin thread NEVER weighs even when she goes to the doctor she refuses to be weighed. So it is one of those "what works for you" things. As for me, they are my helper. Here's why. As my body was adjusting to the IE way of eating, I felt heavy, bloated and "fat". There were times I just knew that I had eaten too much and as you know I struggled a few of those days with going back to the "diet" route. Reading the book, weighing and charting the graph helped me to stay committed to IE. I felt I had to give it a one full month chance. I think if I hadn't had the weight graph, I might not have stuck it out. Just my personality. I am so thrilled to say that this experiment with the graph has proved that IE works exactly like the book says it will. I can honestly say that No matter whether you choose to use the scales or not, you can trust the IE plan to work for you. Also, let me add one thing about the article Blue shared. That person learned to do IE the way that it would work for her. IE is not a group of a lot of rules like "diets" have. From what I understand about IE is this. When done as intended, it will NOT be a bunch of do's and don't rules. It should be a way of eating that just "flows" naturally because we have learned to listen to our bodies and work with what is NORMAL for us individually. Other than the headaches I've had since Friday, today I feel good weight wise. I don't have that heavy, bloated feeling. No cravings and hunger is really changing. Didn't eat as many times or as much yesterday. So I think my "normal" way eating is showing up. Those good voices are really helping as well as the Beck skills that I've incorported with IE. carolr Enjoy your company. Everybody else:wave: Y'all have a good Sunday. |
Trish tell me some more about the Beck book, it sounds like I should get it also because it sounds like you can combine the Beck and the Intuitive Eating together and it works, right? Congratulations on your weight loss!
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Fly by today ladies. Fighting sinus issues today. Meds make me feel tired. Everybody have a great day. H |
Thanks Trish, I will check it out and see if our book store has it also. Hope you get to feeling better.
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Got my eyes tested today. I have cataracts but not too bad yet for which I am thankful. I hope I can make it 5 more years because I don't have insurance and maybe medicare will pay for it. I guess with IE you finally just kind of forget about what you eat. Lately it has been that way for me. Too much going on to think much about eating....except for those lovely garden tomatoes. We had a big Sun. dinner this past Sun. and for once in a long time it tasted really good to me. Don't now why. Maybe I was really hungry. ha!
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Thanks, Trish. I don't go out in the sun because of sarcoidosis and have taken bilberry and lutein for quite awhile. The only time I'm outside is right before sunset to work in the garden. That is a beautiful time of day. I guess sarcoidosis is a precursor for cataracts and glaucoma. I'm really thankful that I don't have glaucoma. My mom had macular degeneration and was nearly blind before she died at age 90. I can give the Lord all the glory because I have had this since I was 28 and am now 60 and get along fairly well. Plus we had 10 kids along the way that are a real joy. Next week our son is getting married. That leaves only the youngest girl not married.
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A testimony from Beyond Chocolate.
Before Beyond Chocolate I'd tried Weight Watchers many times, Slimming World and Atkins. I really was a serial yo-yo dieter. I would do great on WeightWatchers as long as I was losing the weight (although I never made my target!) then everything would go to pot the second I couldn't cope anymore and instead of eating "sensibly" I just had to have whatever I had deprived myself of when I was on following the plan. I used to binge at almost every occasion - if I was happy, celebrating, miserable, cheering myself up, anxious about something - any excuse was good to go off the rails. At Christmas I used to eat till I felt sick, then the second the feeling subsided I'd cram more in to the point of feeling sick again, always telling myself I would start again in January and that I was "making the most" of the festivities. Basically I would spend 6 months losing weight and 3 months putting it all back on. Then I'd start again. I would force myself to exercise when I was on a diet because obviously that meant I "earned" more chocolate or lost more weight. I used to force myself to go to classes I could just about put up with for weeks on end and LOVED the compliments I got. When the diets worked I would allow myself to spend money on new clothes and marveled at the difference in my shape. When I put the weight back on I would hide under jeans and baggy jumpers - even in summer. I would rather have fainted of heat exhaustion rather than let anybody laugh at my rolls of fat. Throughout this whole period of time, from the age of 8 to 24, I was convinced that it was ME who was at fault, it was ME who couldn't stick to the diets, ME who wasn't disciplined enough to do enough exercise and ME who had to eat the whole bar of chocolate and couldn't just eat it "in moderation". Now I know it was the diets that failed me, not the other way round. NOW I eat WHAT I want, WHEN I want, I move when I want, in a way that I enjoy and AM STILL LOSING WEIGHT! I eat all foods and enjoy them and thank goodness I've lost that sense of guilt that I'm failing myself by eating certain foods. Now I know that food is there to be enjoyed. When I move my body I know that I'm smiling because I only do it if I fancy doing it AND MY BODY IS SINGING. I don't force myself to do it - even when people nag me or push me. I know that I will want to do it again when my body is ready. My confidence has increased no end. I've come to realise that unless I'm willing to do press-ups and sit-ups every day and go without food for the rest of my life - and I already know that, for me, that's not a sustainable option, then this is me. Even if I were to do those things I would never look like any of the actresses or models because I am not them. I now know that I am beautiful. Not in a Cameron Diaz, Eva Langoria or Kirsten Dunst type way but in a Kay Alderton, living my stressful but fun life, studying every day for my career, working full-time, eating all the foods I love, girlfriend of an army recruit kind of way. I've been doing Beyond Chocolate for just over a year and although I have lost weight (I have no idea how much because I haven't weighed myself since I went on the workshop) for me that isn't the most important thing any more. For a while it was but now I think, even if I hadn't lost the weight I have, I couldn't ever go back to the prison of dieting. I have found freedom! |
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Just checking in. Hope everybody has had a good day. Carolr Thanks for the article. I look forward to the day that can be my testimony. |
Oh Carol thank You for sharing. I got my book today and been reading but have not learned anything new yet. Just started the 3rd chapter. I was wondering today why there was not a diet involving God in the Faith Group and when I came on tonight there was one there! It sounds like Intuitive but having Bible Study with it, it's great! It just seems like God knows what I am thinking lately, wish he would bring a-lot of rain here on our ranch and Mr. Lathams ranch! I am so tired of breathing dust. I sure would like to get my feet muddy!
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Thanks Bootsie for sharing about the new Bible Study thread. I went and read some of the material and ended up printing out the study materials. What a great addition to my eating plan. I too believe it is an answer to prayer. Isn't it wonderful how God prepares us and then leads to just what we need.
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Trish he is so awesome, now if I could just converse with him on this lack of rain. I know he cares , for every morning he has a new flower waiting for me on my walk. This is his land but it looks like the devils so burnt!
Reading this I just got to thinking that flower is a way telling me he still is in control and the rain will come, to have faith in him! |
Bootsie, we lived in Texas for one month in 1972 when my oldest girl was one. One night we went to play tennis and she started to cry. She wouldn't stop so we took her home and put her in the tub still crying. Finally we gave her a drink of water and that was it!!! The air conditioner never shut off the whole time we were there. At 9 pm it was 91 degrees! I can remember that the only green place was in the towns. The country side was barren. You should come visit WI sometime. We have times of little rain but generally not. I tried to print the Bible study but can't get our printer to work. My DH will help me tonight. It sounds so good.
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Carol someday I am going to do some traveling but right now I am having trouble getting to Marfa Texas to see my grandchildren. I know that Jesus loves us and he will send us rain soon ,its not long off. I will be:carrot:shouting with joy, praising him!:woohoo:
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Hi Ladies!
I am new to this thread, but it has blessed me so much, thank you. I have been trying to figure out how I could share what God has shown me. I really don't want to publish it, because I think the grammar problems would definitely be a problem for a publicist...:o I have a website, but it's pretty amateurish, and I don't know how to advertise it. People now days are leary, and when I say it's a free study, I think they think there are strings attached. Because it's a 13 week study you do 5 days a week, The whole study is 475 pages long... whew :^: . So I don't think it is practical to keep posting it here...Anyway, I would appreciate prayer for wisdom and patience. AND I am praying for rain in Big beautiful Texas bootsie!!! ;) Love, Kelli |
Hi, Kelly. It finally dawned on me that God did not create our bodies to lose weight. He made them to survive famine so that is why years of dieting didn't work for me. For me, God's diet is hunger and satisfaction. If you stick with that your appetite will lower and you will gradually lose weight and not gain it back. I started about where you did and and am about the same weight as you now. Sometimes I get discouraged because it is so slow. And once in awhile I get worried that I might be gaining it back but I'm not. I tried on the wedding dress I have for my son's wedding next week and it still fits. Whew! Glad you are here and I'd be really interested in your book if you ever get it done. I wouldn't mind the grammar errors.
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Keliie - :welcome3: to Intuitive Eating thread. I am thoroughly enjoying your lessons. I hope we can find a way to continue it. So much wisdom and knowledge that God has given you with understanding of how to teach it through a book. I'm sure the Lord will show you how to promote it. I'm not pc inclined. I do wish I knew how to help you set up a website etc. I definitely will be praying that God will help you find a way. Did you think about doing a Yahoo group? Not sure how to do it, but if you decide to do it I sure want to be part of it.
Bootsie - I remember those hot days in TX. Did I tell you that I lived in TX until I married my DH over 6 years ago? I moved to FL when I married him and we had all those hurricanes. Then we moved to SC and our second year here we were in a drought. This year we have had rain but it has been slow. I definitely pray TX gets rain soon. I love the Flower from the Lord. I love roses as did my Mama. One time when my DH who now makes his home in Heaven and were having hard time, we came home from work and I saw 3 roses as I got out of the car. It was winter and way too cold for flowers. I had been very close to my Mama and his. Without thinking I said, "Oh Bill, look. Mother and Mama have sent us 2 roses". Of course, I have no scripture for that, but in my heart I knew that God had everything in control and He would take care of us and He did. Carolr - :wave: Blue - How are you doing? I hope all is well with you. Hope Everybody has a great weekend. |
Thanks for the welcome Trish. I have never heard of Yahoo groups before, so I googled (binged) it (My hubby is a contractor for Microsoft). Anyway, you're brilliant! I signed up to create a group and in the process of setting up. Thanks again!
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