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Old 04-23-2014, 10:48 AM   #16  
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Hi everyone, happy hump day!

Second WI yesterday, came in down another 3.4 pounds. Only .4 to go 'til I hit the 10 pound mark.

Last night I made a reuben in a bowl...like the big mac in a bowl, but with half a cup of sauerkraut and sugar free boar's head corned beef with lettuce and WF Thousand Island. I'm wondering if the salt content made me feel sick, though. I wasn't feeling great this morning and strong smells made me feel really woozy. The smell of my pineapple banana drink almost made me sick. Maybe I'll try a turkey rueben in a bowl next time. How do the rest of you do with deli meat?
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Morning ladies! I've been MIA for the last few weeks. I phased off for a break up to this past weekend & I'm back on P1 as of yesterday. I am tired & foggy so I'm working my way back in to ketosis. I actually did pretty good being phased off; I lost an inch in my skinny waist while everything else was static & I only gained 3 lbs while also having my TOM arrive early! I'll call that a win!

I'm looking forward to getting in to ONEderland sooner than later so I can say goodbye to the 200s forever.
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April 23, 2014 - Wednesday Sabotage

Sabotaging Thought: I’m so stressed, I just want to eat to relax.

Response: It’s true eating is relaxing and calming, but only in the short term! Ultimately it only makes me feel worse – if not in the moment, then the next time I get on the scale. Go do something else (drink hot tea, take a walk, listen to music, deep breathing). While these things may not be quite as effective as eating, they don’t come with ANY negative consequences.
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I was wondering if anyone has had any issues with meat. In the sense that you maybe over eat by a few oz and were up on the scale the next morning.
Could meat throw you off? or cause no weight loss?
I think ground beef (extra-lean) and ham both cause me to not lose the next day. It's probably water related, but I still pay attention to it. I've decided to limit those two to only once a week and not close to my weigh in day.

I haven't noticed the same effect with regular beef, chicken, pork tenderloin, fish or turkey.
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I think ground beef (extra-lean) and ham both cause me to not lose the next day. It's probably water related, but I still pay attention to it. I've decided to limit those two to only once a week and not close to my weigh in day.

I haven't noticed the same effect with regular beef, chicken, pork tenderloin, fish or turkey.
Ham I could see, due to the inherent saltiness as most hams have a lot of sodium/nitrates in them. Ground beef?? Maybe how lean - you'd be surprised how much fat there is in different grades of ground beef - and the more fat, the more your body holds on to the water to metabolize it.

Scary sort of eye opening article re: fat calories in ground beef - even extra lean. http://lowfatcooking.about.com/od/lo...a/leanbeef.htm

quote: "Take lean ground beef, which, according to the USDA, is defined as containing no more than 10 percent fat, which means it's 90 percent lean, right? Yes, but there’s a catch: the percentage refers to product weight, not the percentage of calories from fat. This may be obvious to some, but many people don't know this, or at least don’t think it through. Here's what I mean:

According to the USDA, four ounces of lean ground beef (90 percent lean, 10 percent fat) is worth 199 calories, with 11g of fat. Given that there are nine calories in each gram of fat, 99 of those calories, or 49.7 percent of them, come from fat.

Similarly, four ounces of extra-lean ground beef (95 percent lean, 5 percent fat) is worth 155 calories, with 5.6 g of fat, or 33.3 percent of its total calories." unquote

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I think ground beef (extra-lean) and ham both cause me to not lose the next day. It's probably water related, but I still pay attention to it. I've decided to limit those two to only once a week and not close to my weigh in day.

I haven't noticed the same effect with regular beef, chicken, pork tenderloin, fish or turkey.
Now that you mention that, I think my body is the same.
Thank you!
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Hi everyone, happy hump day!

Second WI yesterday, came in down another 3.4 pounds. Only .4 to go 'til I hit the 10 pound mark.

Last night I made a reuben in a bowl. Maybe I'll try a turkey rueben in a bowl next time. How do the rest of you do with deli meat?
I use naturally smoked deli meat which means no nitrates or other additives (it is still salty - no getting away from that, not as much though) mainly because I have to be gluten free and they are labelled as such. I don't eat them very often, mainly with sauerkraut and 3 or 4 gluten free (clean oat dough based) handmade perogies. Maybe it was just too much - the saltiness of corned beef, sauerkraut, and probably the WF Thousand Island. Usually if something is labelled sugar free or low-fat they add extra salt to compensate for the 'unbalance' of flavours. Check your corned beef labels & see if there is a difference between regular & sugar-free sodium-wise.

Might be interesting.
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Ham I could see, due to the inherent saltiness as most hams have a lot of sodium/nitrates in them. Ground beef?? Maybe how lean - you'd be surprised how much fat there is in different grades of ground beef - and the more fat, the more your body holds on to the water to metabolize it.

Scary sort of eye opening article re: fat calories in ground beef - even extra lean. http://lowfatcooking.about.com/od/lo...a/leanbeef.htm

quote: "Take lean ground beef, which, according to the USDA, is defined as containing no more than 10 percent fat, which means it's 90 percent lean, right? Yes, but there’s a catch: the percentage refers to product weight, not the percentage of calories from fat. This may be obvious to some, but many people don't know this, or at least don’t think it through. Here's what I mean:

According to the USDA, four ounces of lean ground beef (90 percent lean, 10 percent fat) is worth 199 calories, with 11g of fat. Given that there are nine calories in each gram of fat, 99 of those calories, or 49.7 percent of them, come from fat.

Similarly, four ounces of extra-lean ground beef (95 percent lean, 5 percent fat) is worth 155 calories, with 5.6 g of fat, or 33.3 percent of its total calories." unquote

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Great information, thank you! I think I'll limit ground beef even further.
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April 23, 2014 - Wednesday Sabotage

Sabotaging Thought: I’m so stressed, I just want to eat to relax.

Response: It’s true eating is relaxing and calming, but only in the short term! Ultimately it only makes me feel worse – if not in the moment, then the next time I get on the scale. Go do something else (drink hot tea, take a walk, listen to music, deep breathing). While these things may not be quite as effective as eating, they don’t come with ANY negative consequences.
Tisado - thank you for posting this. Your response as shown is something I have experienced so many times that I should memorize this. I always feel soooo much worse afterwards, almost immediately afterwards, that I just need to remind myself of this response.

I am relaxed only for the time I am eating (and maybe not the entire time). What a short term pleasure that brings back consequences that are so much greater...anger, frustration, self recrimination, weight gain, loss of momentum......
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Okay, thank you!
I have sometimes done that too. I asked the owner of the clinic and his response was "you don't get fat from eating protein". So, that made me feel better.
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Tisado -......I am relaxed only for the time I am eating (and maybe not the entire time). What a short term pleasure that brings back consequences that are so much greater...anger, frustration, self recrimination, weight gain, loss of momentum......
I did one week of P4 and found that I totally pigged out. Old habits returned. I will not be one of those people that can have weekly fun days. I am doing P1 for the rest of this week.

I "know" that I can't have carbs and that soft-serve yogurt from Costco but I did it anyway. I can't be trusted to make choices. Yet. When I have to follow the guidelines then I stay OP.

Still working on my mindset. Sure glad I can come here and hang out.
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Tisado - you expressed an issue that I know will come to haunt me when I finally get to goal and P4. That issue of undisciplined, unrestrained eating even when the intellect is screaming out "no, no, no. no".

I will read your postings to see your journey into maintenance so that when I do it P4 I will be wiser and more reflective.

On another note, I just used the MOST INCREDIBLE kitchen device to make ground turkey with zucchini 'noodles'. After reading everyone's story about bloody fingers from mandolins, I took a chance on something I found on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Brieftons-Spir...+spiral+slicer

It was fantastic. I took the zucchini, held it straight and firmly into the spiral slice, and turned and turned. (Probably got some good exercise there!) Fingers never near the blade. What marvelous noodles it made, nice and even and smooth. No jamming, breaking vegetables in place, nothing. I almost convinced myself I was eating pasta!

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Schenactady: Have you tried carrot?? What happens when you get to the core of the carrot? (I'm not a big fan of strictly core taste of the carrot - sounds incredibly weird, I know )

I may invest in this yet as mandolines can be scary things, lol.
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Schenactady: Have you tried carrot?? What happens when you get to the core of the carrot? (I'm not a big fan of strictly core taste of the carrot - sounds incredibly weird, I know )

I may invest in this yet as mandolines can be scary things, lol.
As carrot is not legal for me, I have not tried it yet. But when I did the zucchini, it leaves a small cylinder of the most inner core of the vegetable which shoots out the bottom - about the size of a pencil.

Guess that might be the inner core for a carrot, too?
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I have sometimes done that too. I asked the owner of the clinic and his response was "you don't get fat from eating protein". So, that made me feel better.
Woo! That's a relief!
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