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I just wear them because they're comfy. I don't wear them out though because they are form fitting. |
Absolutely - now it's more of a case of "we'll probably have nothing in common" than "you're a terrible person based on your outfit."
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Oh yes, because all women in Europe are high class and wouldn't dare be seen without a nicely put together outfit.... and all American women wear rain boots as they trudge around Wal-Mart. I must have been to a different Europe.
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Leggings?? $lutty? maybe if worn with a cropped top. I'm big, beautiful, and always wear leggings under a dress with boots or with a long tank or tunic and flats. Never thought it looked $lutty lol
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This thread made me realize that human nature is the same all over the world. I'm originally from another country where people are openly judgmental and will comment on what you're wearing, how big you've become and will openly stare at you. For some reason I thought it was different here and have never felt conscious going to the gym even at my highest weight or worried about what I'm wearing. Since my grocery store is close to the gym I'm usually there in my work out clothes and I've never thought anything of it!
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This is quite the thread. I just took in five whole pages and my mind is mush today, so if I'm being repetitive, forgive me.
First of all, while it's forefront in my mind, I own yoga pants. I do yoga in them. I also wear them out of the house occasionally. Mine aren't skin tight (and if you saw me, you'd be thanking me for this:D), but I think they look ok on most women. My only issue is that your top should cover your rear end, because I don't think anyone needs to see each butt cheek that well defined. AND THAT RIGHT THERE - Is my opinion and me being judgmental. But like an early poster said, does it really effect me? no. As for the topic in general, I used to be extremely quick to snap judgements, and I've come to realize it was the biggest marker of my low self esteem, scratch that, my full out self hate. Being big though (and watching the mockery heaped on my father), it was never directed at the overweight. But INSTANT and I mean INSTANT hatred would flood me when I saw a cute girl dressed sexy, or even worse one in athletic wear. I would have vile thoughts about these women that were completely uncalled for. All because they were what I wanted to be, and couldn't. (and at the time, I probably looked like the person the original poster described). As I've started to heal myself physically and emotionally, I usually catch myself, or better yet, I don't have the thoughts at all. Don't ever kid yourself that the fat people are the most judged and hated. I'll lay down my paycheck that the skinny blondes who look like they have it all together are being mentally vilified by everyone. I can't count how many posts I've seen on this board where a friend of a poster was described as some variation of "blonde and size six" as if that translated to "fire breathing monster clearly carrying the herp". It really does come down to the fact that we don't know the other person's story. For example, there's a man in my town who's very heavy and constantly goes around with too short pants and no socks. He gets mocked or talked about A LOT. I happen to know that he's divorced and childless, and I remember from my own dad that he probably physically can't put socks on. He gets nothing but sympathy from me, because I understand. I lost my temper on another board that likes to repost the "people of walmart" pictures and make fun of them for reasons just like this. On the other hand, The girl in the yoga pants and the tight tank might feel her rear is the only thing she has to show off. Or she's confident enough she doesn't care what she wears. Maybe she's living a rushed life like some of the ones described here and just came from the gym. Maybe she wasn't brought up with the attitudes I was about appropriate wear. And the pretty girls? Maybe they think I'm just a scowly fat chick and have no idea why because they don't see themselves as the perfection I do. Another purely opinion thing - I was taught that you dressed for funerals, for church, for weddings, and that you didn't venture out in public without at least cursory attention to your appearance. I didn't always adhere to that rule at my worst, but I jump to judge when I see people doing their shopping in pajama pants or wearing slippers out of the house. I went to the US and in a certain state ventured into a Walmart and was the best dressed person there (save for the one couple that was parked near us and was from the same place we were). But no one else batted an eye. It was there normal. I've never thought pride in appearance meant that you were insecure or begging for attention or vain. But I also never thought that going out looking a little sloppy meant you were a lazy *** with no worth. |
I just remembered a particular low in appearance for me. My feet were a MESS after my half marathon in Feb. I can only attribute it to the humidity, but I had 13 blisters on right foot, 7 on left foot, and heat rash on both. It was COLD when I got home, but because of the blisters on my heels, closed shoes weren't happening. I wore my husband's way to big for me crocs (aka his beach shoes) to school and work. ROFL
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Seriously, why do we do this to each other?
What makes people think that they are so much better than anyone else? What makes people think that they have the right to judge whether another person's appearance makes them a good person or not? Judgmental people really think that they are so much better than everyone else. It's pride. The reality is this: No one knows what it's like to be someone else so you should keep your prideful thoughts to yourself---and better yet, stop yourself from thinking them. Every person has a different path to take in this life--you can either help them on that path or be a stumbling block. Your choice. |
This thread reminds me of an article I saw on Yahoo yesterday - I guess a gal is suing the Rachel Ray show because she went on the show a year ago and was assigned a personal trainer to help her lose weight in time for this year's senior prom. She alleges that the trainer was mentally abusive to her and that his instructions caused her to injure herself.
The fat shaming comments on that article were unreal. I made a comment that she wasn't blaming anyone else for being heavy, that the lawsuit was because they had injured her. A person's reply to me was, "Go eat another cupcake and shut up, fatty." And a number of the fat shaming comments I saw were from other people who said they either were heavy or had been. |
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I imagine the primitive reason is that we are trying to predetermine what people will be like, most likely based on past experience and what we were taught as children. Also there was likely a time in our species when you needed to make split second decisions / judgements if that person was like you or not. But of course we have change and judgment is still here with little purpose I assume. I've seen people judge because they thought they were better, and because deep down they were insecure, and judging makes them feel better. Really judging just robs people of the chance to get to know someone that they might have really liked. (Oh she's XYZ because she wears XYZ, and so I wouldn't like her) And then you never find out what an awesome person she is. It can also be dangerous if we judge up. Ted Bundy anyone?? Maybe is serves the group mentality. Us and them, you're different from me therefore you are bad. For any of you that have studied sociology, you know how much that is present in society at all levels. Where's Kaplods? She understands this so much better and explains it very well! :) Anyway, it doesn't make judgement right, and it does seem we do better socially if we can move beyond it. |
Wow this is quite the conversation! I am going to try not to offend here, but I have to say my two cents.
I cannot stand it when people wear pj's in public. Just put some damn pants on. Its not that hard. I would rather see someone in holy jeans than pajama pants. Honestly, I cannot think of a good enough excuse to be wearing your pjs in public. Yoga pants.... Personally, I think they should be worn to the gym and around the house ONLY. If you are wearing yoga pants and don't look like you are headed to/from the gym, yes I will be judging you. Sorry, but that's just how I feel. Leggings, are NOT pants. They just aren't. its fine to wear them under a skirt or something like that. I judge people, I know it, but I do try it to keep it to myself. There have been occasions where I have let a look of disgust show on my face, and I catch myself and always feel guilty (At the gym the other day, there was a bigger girl that was wearing a t-shirt with cut off sleeves. Her side boob was hanging out. It was gross and I made a face. I felt terrible and she didn't see it thankfully ) But, in situations like that I generally think props to that person for being comfortable enough with themselves to let it all hang out. But at the same time, I just don't want to see it. I think you should try and respect the rest of the people around you and have some decency and dress appropriately. I don't care if you weigh 100 lbs or 400 lbs, NO ONE should have to see the top/bottom of your butt hanging out of your pants, side boob or whatever. (this goes for boys too, pull your damn pants up!!!!). Also, I just have to get this out - Ladies - For crying out loud. Keep your thongs in your pants. There is nothing more unattractive that the whale tail sticking out the back of your pants! I tend to wear makeup most days because I like it, it's fun to do and makes me feel good. My hair is in a ponytail 99% of the time. I dress according to my body as best I can, I try to keep all my bits and extras safely concealed in my clothes, I don't want want to see your bits and extras, and doubt you want to see mine. I don't subscribe to the belief that you need to shower everyday (unless you are actually dirty everyday) Sometimes I wear the same thing a couple days in a row. Sometimes my shirts are wrinkled. But overall, I feel like I am clean, smell good and dressed appropriately. I don't just a persons personality by their appearance. Nicely dressed people can be b1tches and slobs can be the nicest of nice. I judge your appearance as just that. I hope I don't sound like a terrible person, I might be a little brain damaged from the crazy punk show I was at last night! ETA - I have noticed that I now constantly compare shopping carts. I feel great when mine has more good/healthier stuff than theirs :) |
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http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8512/legging.png Personnaly, I don't like people casually wearing leggings (and by that I mean ONLY leggings), I just don't think completely seeing the seams of your underwear can be flattering on anybody. But it is just my opinion. On wearing PJs to shop around, it might be because I always lived closed to colleges, where students are frequently in a hurry/rushing to get something/not giving a cr*p? but I grew used to those scenes.... I even showed up once at the grocery in my Hello Kitty PJ (to the dismay of my former roommate, I might say LOL) because I was sick and just wanted to get some ice cream to soar my throat. As many said, what we see at the store is mostly a snapshot of the situation of someone at a specific time. There might be tons of reasons why the person was dressing that way, but there might also be none, being that she really just doesn't care and always go out like that. We'll never know. But I think evolving in the society that we are now, I think it is normal to judge. Is it okay? No. But everybody do it, at some point, on different subject. It can be the way someone dress, the way they raise their kids or what they eat. I'm personnally trying my best not to be judmental on a day to day life, but I can't ignore this scumbag brain who got out all b*tchy from times to times and say that it never ever happens. Props to the OP for having the courage to share her opinion! ... and okay, I was all about going to war after reading the part where it was said that yoga pants were sl*tty and that the comments were mostly coming from men. OMG! Outrage!! ... and than I remember how many times I saw a guy hanging around in the typical Jersey Shore tank top and I was ''Jeez, DOUCHEBAG''. ... so yeahhh, hello again, scumbag brain!! ;) |
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I have been guilty of so many of these fashion faux pas! When my son was under the age of 16, I drove him to school daily. There were quite a few mornings that I popped into a local party store to pick up some 1/2 &1/2 or a gallon of milk in my pajama pants :D -- It was 7 am, and the store owner did not mind :D I did have a coat that came down to my knees, and I never wore slippers ;) If that excuses my behavior. Yoga pants; I walk 5 miles 5-6 times per week, outdoors, and yoga pants are absolutely fantastic as walking pants. Instead of rushing home after my walks to shower and change, I may stop at a grocery store, post office etc in my "sexy" yoga pants :dizzy:. I actually committed that sort of a crime this afternoon when after my walk I popped in to Sam's club to pick up a few essential items for the weekend. -- This thread made me look around how other people were dressed at the Sam's Club (owned by Walmart :D), and to be honest with you; I did not stand out like a sore thumb in my yoga pants. The point is; I don't give a hoot what other people think of me. -- We are not barbie dolls; many of us are far from perfect. So who am I to judge others?? -- I feel, once I attain perfection; then I can judge...that would be when h3ll freezes over :D |
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