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Trish I make my lasagna from scratch but it is very similar to Stauffers. Its the way DH likes it and I eat a small piece when I make it for him but usually have a salad or veggies with it. That is one thing he will eat leftovers for lunch the next day but not for dinner.
My chili is still simmering. I tasted it and its very good. I put macaroni in it for DH but usually take mine out first. We went to the grocery store this morning and I just realized we didn't eat breakfast. That's unusual for me to forget. I'm getting a bit of a headache but I'll wait for the chili.
I am enjoying the Hellers Book. One thing they said that struck home with me is you don't give the same eye prescription to everyone and you don't give the same eating plan either. You go according to how each person's body processes different foods. And they don't call the meals Complementary meals and Reward meals. They are Risk Reducing meals and Essential Balance dinner. I will be curious to how this compares to CAD/CALP. They are talking more about controlling blood pressure, cholesterol, triglycerides and blood sugar. Weight loss is secondary.
Pipsicle Sorry your weight is creeping up. I hope this next week will be better for all of us.
Carol Sue I've never made lasagna from scratch. DH daughter makes a really delicious one and loved it when we lived near them and she made it. DH likes the frozen so it is just one of those easy meals when I don't want to cook. I like the fact that the Heller's changed the names of the meals. Not sure what risk reducing means but sounds better than complimentary and as you know I never liked the name Reward Meal so Balanced Meal makes so much more sense.
I'm enjoying reading the more recent IE book. They kind of compared some things with Mindful Based and IE and I think I'm more interested in Mindful Based (MB) because I want to lose weight. In this book they say that they understand people want to lose weight and are not against people losing weight but they think you need to learn to lose the "diet" mentality first and make peace with food. From what I've read so far I think I'm a combo of the different types of dieters, I think I am mostly a Professional Dieter. I am always looking for a new diet that just might work for me this time and read so much about and have become so knowledgeable about dieting. I also found a group on FB support group on Mindful and Intuitive Eaters for Women. I joined it and was accepted but haven't had time to listen to the videos to see what they have to say. However, I have decided to go ahead and do the IE workbook because I might learn something and also it just might help me.
I've had a good IE day. A longer eating window but didn't eat a lot other than the lasagna.
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I was sceptical about the one pound drop and am up to 193.0 today.
Trish, I was curious about when the Hellers wrote this book. CAD was 1993, Healthy For Life was 1996, CALP was 1998, and Healthy Heart Plan was 2000. I now have all of these. I did not find the Stress book. This book, Healthy For Life is not about weight loss. It is about Insulin Resistance. How it happens and how it leads to diseases like Obesity, Diabetes, high blood pressure, high. cholesteral and Heart Disease. Eating on this plan is supposed to reverse insulin resistance. I think that's why the names are different for the meals. I never heard of this book, always heard of CAD/CALP. I think it never became popular because it was not about weight loss. I think if doctors told patients to eat low carb and exercise instead of giving them pills there would not be as much diabetes. Many patients, including me, often think "Eat what you want and take your pill." There is a lot of stuff I skipped over because it was patients stories. But there are chapters that explain the process of how IR happens and I wish I had known that starting out. I am just getting to the food lists. It includes everything because you can eat them at the Balanced meal. But its confusing about the Risk Reducing meals. Risk Reducing is the low carb meals because low carb does not raise insulin. Basically, I want to eat carbs only at dinner to make it easier to eat with DH. I'm glad I'm getting to read the information of how the body responds to carbs but my biggest problem is still not stopping once I reach satisfaction.
I found another Heller Book Carbohydrate Addicts Program for Success. It was written in 1993 just like CAD. I don't know why they would write 2 at the same time, but one of the reviews said the book did not include the food plan but it told you to buy CAD to get the food plan. I would like to read it out of curiosity but only if I could get it really cheap.
I never follow a food plan exactly but I'm still glad I got the book. I would like to follow a CAD-like plan with carbs only at one meal but I am not good at following a plan. Well see.
Carol Sue That was the main thing I liked about the original CAD plan. I could do low carb meals and snacks and then have one carby meal each day and take care of the insulin surges. Plus in the original book it has several choice plans. I can't remember how many right now but you could mix and match so to speak. Your RM or EB meal could be any meal you wanted it didn't have to be at dinner. It could be at breakfast or lunch. For me 3ish with DH as long as the other meals or snacks were low carb. However, they didn't call the other meals low carb because they didn't want to be called a Low Carb Diet. You could fast on CAD because you didn't have to eat 3 meals and snacks. You could skip breakfast if you weren't hungry when you got up and have OMAD, 2MAD or what ever fit your woe. I still like it. I think that is why IE worked so well for me because I could skp meals and snacks that I didn't want to eat.
I started to buy the book you are reading but I really want to get more into the IE/MB thinking and lose the "diet mentality". DS and I were talking this morning about how we think we have an easting disorder and I want to fix mine. It is so freeing not to plan meals. In fact, I could have gone all day without much of anything if I hadn't been cooking for DH.
Weight this morning is down to 191 and that is with just eating when hungry. However, I am trying to be sure to drink at least the 8 glasses of water and more when possible.
Going to Walmart when DH gets up to get his meds and pick up a few things. Then we will get McDs on the way home. We go Wednesday afternoon to get 2nd vaccine shot and will go to the other store to get DH cauliflower. I'm not sure I will feel like going to the store Friday so I want to be prepared. Not sure I will even go to beauty shop that day but would like to not have to go to the store if I can get there. I would like her to do the first hair wash after my perm last week. I already told him that we can get McDs today and I want to pick up some Tacos on our way home Wednesday.
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Trish, my sister-in-law had a fever after her second shot but don't know what vaccine it was.
I don't think this book I'm reading is for you because you don't have high blood pressure, high cholesterol or heart disease. Your labs are as close to perfect as anyone I know even younger people.
I think anyone who is overweight has some type of eating disorder. Any eating more than your body uses causes weight gain. What type of eating disorder do you think you have?
Wait til you hear this. DH read online that pains like he gets, shoulder, arms, wrists, hands could. be caused by potatoes, so he is going to quit eating them and see if his pain stops. Imagine that! I told him I thought it was caused by sugar. We'll see.
Carol Sue I think one of the eating disorders is not making a decision about a diet and staying with it. I also have a problem recognizing whether I am hungry or not.
That is interesting about your DH and the potatoes I've heard it can raise your bs but never heard it could cause all those aches and pains. I threw out potatoes today that were growing eyes. I just don't use them fast enough to even buy them. I need to start buying one if I want it but not by the bag since DH doesn't care for potatoes. Same with onions. They start going to seed before I eat them all. My grocery bill will go down considerably with me eating Intuitively if things continue the way they are as I just don't get hungry.
I listened to some of the videos on the FB Mindful & Intuitive Eating group. The lady of the group is an dietitian who is an IE coach. The videos are very informative and helpful. I listened to one today on weight loss. While you don't do IE to lose weight, she says hat weight loss is a side affect of the Intuitive woe. So I think I will get a lot of info from this group and look forward to hearing more videos.
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Weight up to 193.4. Probably too many carbs too late in the day.
Trish, that's good that the IE group accepts that IE can lead to weight loss. Some others don't want you to talk about it because they are using it to break binge eating disorder. Understandable, but you want to use it for weight loss. Me too. Right now I am reading a lot about insulin as I believe my insulin levels are very high. Many health disorders are caused by high insulin.
I can understand not being able to know when you are hungry. For years and years I was never hungry because I was eating too often. I found that I can go a very long time without food before I get hungry, but sometimes I am fine one minute, then starving and shaky the next. My blood sugar has been running high lately so I know it's not hypoglycemia, but I believe it's when my blood sugar comes down fast and causes false hypo symptoms. That should auto correct once I lower my blood glucose levels. I know that waiting it out will work, but sometimes I just can't stand the feeling and I have a piece of candy or something to soothe it.
I think you should give a diet plan at least 2 weeks before you consider it to be not working and change. But I am not an expert, and just repeating what I've read.
Here is a site with a slew of good videos I found in my Favorites in case any of them interest you.
Weight up .8 lb to 191.8. Probably not weight gain. I noticed yesterday and today that I don't get hungry for something to eat until about 11:44 am so I had a banana today. Yesterday I had a cup of coffee with a fiber bar because I knew we were going to Walmart. No sense in eating anything else since we will et our main meal in a couple of hours after DH gets up. So the banana or fiber bar takes the edge off until then.
I called my beautician who was also my best friend in SC because her sister literally just dropped dead last Saturday. Sha and her hubby have legal guardianship of my friends 2 grandchildren until their Mother gets her life together and can get them back. She had taken the children to a park or something and had come home and brought groceries in and said she felt dizzy like she was going to pass out. She fell to the floor and the paramedics never could revive her. She hadn't been sick or anything except that she had complained lately of being tired. She was 2 yrs younger than my friend. It was a real shocker. She didn't have a weight problem or anything. You just don't ever know. I figure she was in her early 60s.
Not much going on here today. I'm going to finish reading the chapter before I start the Principle #1 in the IE workbook called Reject the Diet Mentality. I have started this workbook before and before the lessons start it had part where you write your name with your dominant hand and then you write it with the other hand. I had done that. Then it says to compare it. Of course being right handed the writing is smooth but the one with my left hand was shaky and weird. You can tell it was very awkward and uncomfortably written. Then it asks the question how you felt emotional while doing it as to were you feeling impatient or judgmental or intrigued, embarrassed, fearful or amused? What did you expect or believe the results would be? Did you expect the same quality, etc. The book goes on to explain that learning to write with your dominate hand took practice. You used the same brain, the same tools etc. The same is true when it comes to IE. You were born to eat intuitively but through diets or other outside influence you have learned to get away from it and then asks you to reflect on your eating experiences. I noticed that my answer to this question is what I've shared here lately. I normally ate Intuitively until at the age of 19 while in college I learned to eat 3 meals a day where I had never had 3 meals a day in my life. Then when I lived with my aunt she insisted we have 3 meals a day that started with a big breakfast of eggs, bacon and toast before going to work. Then when I gained weight around 20 or 21 yrs of age I got on the diet train. Once that started I lost touch with any and all hunger signals. There were times during the years that I would go back to eating Intuitively especially when I lived a lone. But then I would move into a lifestyle of 3 meals a day and the diet cycle would begin again. I hope I can get back to IE again and stay there this time.
Carol Sue Years ago WW said that you needed to give their diet 2 weeks before you would see the results of the plan. However, I also remember reading of a woman who did WW for one whole year before her body adjusted so that she started losing weight.
I'm going to read today and tomorrow we go get the second vaccine shot so I don't plan to do anything except go get my hair done Friday morning and come back home for the whole weekend since I don't know how it will affect me. However, I'm praying we will have no problems at all. Not sure what is on the menu today. I've got cod fish out but I don't have the taste for it right now. I'm thinking BLT but will see what DH says when he gets up.
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Trish, your weight is dropping back down and the .8 is a fluctuation even though we don't like to see them. I'm going back up but it will come back down too eventually.
I had a 16 hour overnight fast but I'm still eating too much during the 8 hours. I know, because I had no hunger today. We went to Texas Roadhouse and I had delicious salmon, a salad and a baker sweet potato. But I ate 2 rolls so that killed my healthy dinner. I always screw something up.
Tomorrow is casino day. My plan is to not eat much because I tend to get potty issues when we're on the highway with no restrooms.No breakfast, but I might take a half sandwich to eat right before we get there. That worked well when I did that before. And if we eat in the food court I've been getting onion rings. Not healthy but the other options are big sandwiches or pizza. They have salads but only one dressing that I don't like. So I try to keep it a low calorie day even though the food I eat is not healthy. I will feel best if I get a good nights sleep tonight.
I hope things go well with your second vaccine and you and you and DH have little to no side effects.
I finally reached the chapter of Principle #1 Reject Diets. It explains how dieting causes weight gain over time because our bodies hold on to fat when we cut out food or certain foods. I retook the test in the previous chapter to see what I need to work on. It was interesting to see that I don't have an emotional eating problem. I think that is because my main thing is following diets. I have the problem of not eating certain foods because they are considered "bad" or "forbidden" foods plus I usually eat according to a diet plan etc. Of course, I am a Professional dieter. LOL I don't know how I will do with losing the diet mentality because as much as I want to do this, I don't want to gain any weight. That is the one thing what supposedly prevents a person from learning to be an Intuitive Eater. They say the longer you have dieted (at least 55 yrs for me) the harder it is to learn to ditch the diet mentality and eat Intuitively. Another thing that I think is important to learn is to eat what you want especially that you crave and not to feel guilty when you do. I honestly think the stress of feeling guilty about the things we eat is really key to weight loss. We are made to believe that it is our fault when a diet doesn't work or when we have slip ups. Now I think another problem is the fact that we need to eat the things we enjoy and stop feeling like we have committed the unpardonable sin. Life happens and we need to enjoy the journey. When we eat something we enjoy, we usually know how it is going to make us feel or how our body is going to respond to it. In fact that is one of the keys to IE learning what to eat by learning how it makes us feel after we eat it. So far from what I have read that is a very important thing to learn.
I've talked DH into getting up in time o go to Sam's before we go for the vaccine and then we can go to the local store to get cauliflower, milk etc. Then we will go get Taco Bell and come home. What we do or I do the rest of the weekend depends on how we feel after the shots.
Carol Sue You have a good plan for you casino eating. I hope you end up with a good day and even enjoy being there.
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Trish, I think I have given up the diet mentality too much! LOL. I won't eat something I don't like for the sake of losing tenths of a pound but most foods I like are healthy. However, when DH had cupcakes over the weekend they were really fresh and I ate one which I know is bad for my blood sugar. I simply eat too much, more than my body needs. For example, yesterday when I was eating my salmon and sweet potato I was satisfied but not stuffed before I finished but I continued to eat because it was so good, it was healthy food and I didn't want to bring it home or waste it. Stopping when satisfied would really help. When I was in my gaining period, from when I married to 2008 when I reached my top weight I ate til I was uncomfortably stuffed every time. I gained that weight quickly. I was always too poor to buy food, plus I danced so much I worked it off. But I didn't think of that dancing as exercise. When I married, food was very plentiful. And no more dancing. Tracking doesn't help because I track at the end of the day and then see that I went over. Or I track breakfast and lunch to see how many calories I have left for dinner. Sometimes its not much.
What I'm reading now about insulin control tells me to eat breakfast every day and a small dinner. Skipping breakfast makes you get a higher insulin response after dinner. But who eats that way? And that might not be true because you can't test insulin. When I lived alone, I ate breakfast and lunch but no dinner or just vegetables for dinner. The reason I did that was because I was active during the day and needed calories but I was sitting watching tv in the evening and didn't need calories. So I was doing it right but didn't know it. If I wanted dinner I had to go to the store to get something and I didn't want to go out once I was home. Then there were the nights I went out dancing and burned extra calories. On the nights I did that I was not hungry the next day, so exercise took away my appetite. I try to remember these things and apply them now, but there's always food around and dinner is very important to DH. Every day he asks what we're having for dinner and I want to say "nothing". But he has to have dinner. He is a 3 meals and snacks eater. His daughter is the same. She has to have dinner and it has to be a full balanced meal. So I can't find my way back to how I was before and I can't lose weight following his eating plan. I did it when I lived with my mother. She cooked a full dinner every day. I ate a small portion of everything and left the table. But I was so young and determined back then. I cannot break these bad habits I've developed over the years.
Hoping your day goes well with your second shot, Trish.
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I posted a long post explaining how this Healthy For Life Heller plan works but cable went out and I lost it and 3FC didn't hold it. Anyway, the eating plan is the same as CAD, but you start out gradually and make changes weekly when you're ready to advance. I guess they think its too hard for people to make all the changes at once. This is probably why it never became popular because it is for reducing insulin not weight loss, but weight loss can happen. It also includes activity, exercise. I don't remember if exercise was mandatory with CAD. And it includes stress reduction, meditation. For me, it was worth it to read the information about insulin, but you can't check insulin levels so you wouldn't know if it was really reducing insulin.
Carol Sue When I lived with my aunt and at 3 meals a day I didn't notice whole lot of weight gain because I walked to the bus stop and I was much like my Daddy in that I didn't like standing doing nothing waiting so I would walk a block and look to see if it was coming, if not I would walk another block and so on till it came. Then we too went out dancing at least 3 or 4 nights a week. There was a time that my job was running around too so I was very active. One time my aunt and I decided to take the bus across town and then walked back across town to the restaurant where I had worked. We didn't think anything about walking for miles and miles and never thought of it as exercise because we were having fun.
Exercise is not mandatory on CAD however, they do say 15 minutes a day will be good to do and I think that was just 3 days a week to get people moving. According to IE, as you feel better you will want to move around more. I know yesterday DH finally decided to take our rugs in the bathroom to shake them out so I could wash them. So I took the opportunity to sweep and mop the bathrooms and the interesting thing is that I actually enjoyed it. That was a new experience.
Weight back down under 190 to 189.8. Barely but it is under. I'm not sure I won't take what good I can from the IE book and workbook, but I will become more of a Mindful eater. I don't know if I even know how to ditch the diet mentality as I've had it for so long. I need to jump to the Gentle Nutrition part of the book which may teach me how to do that because I'm doing this at my age to control diabetes and other health problems. I've made too much good progress to allow myself to regress at all.
Get shots today. DH is getting up early to go do our shopping before we go by docs office to get them. We never have problems with shots or meds so don't really expect any this time. Just being ready in case. Doc said don't plan anything for 2 days, but I still want to go to beauty shop Friday morning if at all possible.
Have a good day at the casino. You know you have to go so I hope you can make it a good day you can enjoy.
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We didn't do well at the casino. I didn't follow my good eating plan that I had worked out. I ate everything in sight, actually. So I don't think I'll be getting on the scale tomorrow, or even the next day!
