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Wannabehealthy 10-02-2015 08:41 AM

Diabetes and Prediabetes Chat and Support
 
Hello there! Have you been diagnosed with diabetes, or told you are prediabetic? Come and chat with us! We are here to support each other and talk about how we are handling our Blood Sugar.

It seems that we get a lot more views than we get posts. It would be nice if some of those lurkers joined in the discussions and added some different viewpoints!! Don't be shy!

Wannabehealthy 10-02-2015 08:54 AM

I have continued to research my itchy skin problems. I found a site that discusses problems with itchy skin in Diabetics. I had heard of that before but was just assuming my itchiness was from my psoriasis, even though my psoriasis did not itch until the past year or so. Here is the site, and it has a lot of information about it that others might find interesting. It also references other signs and symptoms of Diabetes.

http://early-diabetes-symptoms.com/t...es-itchy-skin/

A while back I bought some lotion that is formulated for Diabetes Itch but didn't notice much improvement. Maybe I didn't give it enough time. Now I bought Cetaphil Lotion for Eczema even though I know what I have is not Eczema, and it seems to be working a little better. Constant itching can be very uncomfortable after a while! I am also trying to stay away from foods that can contribute to inflammation.

p.a. 10-02-2015 07:34 PM

Thanks for the new thread Trish
Carol I hope your new meds help
Sept wasn't great for weight loss but October is starting with a bang! Down 1.7 this week!

Wannabehealthy 10-02-2015 09:32 PM

That's a great start p.a. Keep going!

pattygirl63 10-03-2015 01:17 PM

p.a. I didn't do good with September either. My weight was up 1.6 lbs on Oct 1st. Congratulations on your weight loss.

Carol Sue Thanks for the website. I haven't read it yet but will. I think it is good to know more about these things. I know I have itching sometimes and have no idea why. Many times no rash or anything just itching. Hope the medicine continues to help.

Well, I'm losing weight but only because I can't eat. Just not hungry. I make myself eat what I do eat. I've evidently picked up a virus which I understand is going around. Having diahrea but not from any meds. Haven't even taken any until today. Not sure I need to be taking anything right now. The only good thing about this is that my weight is down 5.4 lbs this morning, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Hope everyone is staying dry. I wonder about Bonnie as they always flood and lose power where she lives. I did get out today to go to the beauty shop to get my hair done. DH's son and his daughter will be here late tomorrow night. I know DH doesn't want to go anywhere without me, but they will have to go places without me next week if I'm not feeling better.

Those of y'all in this weather stay dry and safe.

Wannabehealthy 10-03-2015 02:45 PM

We have had a lot of rain in the past few days but not near what they're getting near the coast. We always get the residual. One time after one of the big hurricanes that hit the south, DH swept up a bunch of sand in the driveway that had been carried over to us from the storm. That was weird! Hope all are dry and safe, including Bonnie and her family.

I hope you feel better soon, Trish. It probably wouldn't do any good to take meds that won't stay with you. It's great to lose some weight, but you're right, that's not a fun way.

Today my blood sugar is up because I had some ice cream, and I'm itchier than usual, so that is convincing me more than ever that the itch is diabetes related. I had no itching overnight.

My 7 year old grandson is coming to stay overnight. I hope my dog behaves!

pattygirl63 10-05-2015 11:49 AM

I got this off yahoo on how to keep avocado from turning brown. I know we are always trying to keep them so thought I would share this link with you.

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/post/1282...vocado-turning

pattygirl63 10-05-2015 02:54 PM

I have a 4.6 lb loss this week. I am taking the loss as a jump start and decided to make new eating habits to keep the weight coming off. I really enjoyed learning some of what I did from Dr. Thompson's videos. She never gave a diet plan although I found one that actually sounds a lot like what she is talking about. It is the one someone recommended to a new pre-diabetic on here called whole30. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it is the eating plan she followed. I have thought about using it if I need to, but will not make that decision at this time. Right now the FBS is coming down... it was 127 this morning with no meds. My BP is even so low with the medicine that I'm not sure I need to keep taking it. As long as the BS keeps coming down and the BP is low, I will keep doing what I'm doing.

Right now I'm eating 2 meals a day within 5 hrs of each other and not needing any snacks at this time. Having company here is also helping me not snack.

I liked the idea of what Thompson calls Brightline eating. I like the idea of setting my own limits and guide lines. I also like the idea of journaling although I'm not able to journal this week. I do believe that I have to get in touch with the way I always ate when I was thin and practice eating that way until it becomes a habit. There might be a slip up once in a while until it becomes a habit, but I believe it can happen. It is worth a try. What is interesting is that I've been thinking about DH DGD that used to live with us and how she eats and how I used to try to get her to eat and she would say, "I'm not hungry. I don't want it". She would finally take an apple with her to appease me. If she wanted it later in the day then she would eat it, but if she didn't get hungry, she wouldn't.

Now I'm observing DH DGD who is visiting with us right now. She told me that she doesn't have time to eat breakfast so she takes a granola bar with her to school and when she gets hungry that she can eat it. She says she usually eats twice a day. I told her not to let anyone talk her into eating any other way, because that is exactly how I ate until everyone convinced me that I had to eat breakfast and 3 meals a day. I told her that now I'm actually trying to get back to eating the way I always ate when I was thin and every time I've been thinner through the years, because they have found that we don't have to eat breakfast if we don't want it.

Funny thing is that both these girls are highly intelligent so the idea that you can't think if you don't eat breakfast is not true. One already has her plans to be a music teacher and wins awards in competition. The other girl is planning to be come doctor and she is very active. She was a gymnast, is a cheerleader and also does martial arts. So all these things we've been made to think you had to eat to do... really isn't true.

So I honestly feel I have a confirmation that I am on the right track now in more ways than one.

Hope everyone is doing okay.

Editing to say I did finish watching the last video of Dr. Thompsons. Seems you have to do the boot camp to get the diet program etc. At $995, I will be using the tools and ideas with my own plan not hers.

Wannabehealthy 10-05-2015 10:29 PM

Thanks for the tip about the avocado. Something different to try. I wonder if it has to be red onion. I rarely buy them as they are more expensive than yellow, and then you somewhat waste it by using it to store the avocado, unless you eat it with the avocado. I bought an Avacado keeper to try it out. I only meant to leave it for 1 day, but it got extended to 2. It was better than the other things I've tried, but it still turned brown a little. Now I looked it up online and it says that the avocado is to be put in the keeper cut side down. I put it in cut side up and left the pit in it. I will have to try it again cut side down without the pit, and also with some onion under the cut side, but it will be yellow onion. I also put some lime juice on it.

I agree that you should not force yourself to eat as soon as you get up if you aren't hungry. I don't call it skipping breakfast because I still eat breakfast foods most days, but sometimes it's closer to lunch by the time I eat. And those girls visiting you should not let anyone tell them when or what to eat. As long as they are not starving themselves foolishly, they are doing the right thing IMO.

Good for you on the pounds lost, the lower BS and BP.

I googled Whole30 and there is a lot of info online about it and I bookmarked it. Glancing through one of the sites I saw that it is Paleo. The 30 days is to be considered a nutritional reset and at the end of 30 days you start to add things back in. I noticed that it does not allow dairy or legumes. I can't figure out why the big contraversy about dairy and legumes. First they're good, then they're not. Trish, you know I am not giving up my beans. I consider them a very important part of my diet for the fiber. i don't eat them every day, but I love them and can't give them up. LOL I guess there are a lot worse things than that!

pattygirl63 10-06-2015 04:49 PM

Carol Sue I don't understand the problem with dairy and legumes. Legumes are good for diabetics to eat to keep the bs more balanced. I also noticed the one about Paleo. I looked at my Paleo book for beginners and Whole30 is almost exactly like the plan. I recently read that real Paleo's ate some grains when they could so I think that the idea that they only ate protein, fruit and veggies is probably because they didn't always stay in one place to raise any of the foods. If you stop and think about it, corn was introduced to the Pilgrims by the Indians. I personally believe the problem with the corn is the way they have processed it and made it more hybrid. I heard recently that they have got corn is so highly hybrid that every ear of corn grown in a crop has the exact same amount of kernel count. I think we have processed some of our foods to the point to where our great grandmothers wouldn't even recognize it.

I also heard it said that legumes can be ground down to powder/flour so I think once they learn you can make a food into a flour/powder, they decide it isn't good for you and definitely NOT Paleo.

As for dairy, I've heard it said that animals will not drink milk from other animals. Those people who say that go on to say that only humans drink milk from other animals. However, I'm not sure that is entirely true. I remember seeing a picture of a baby kitten drinking from an old mama pig with the other little piglets. So I don't that you can say that is true 100% although they are correct that once the baby animals are wiened they don't seem to drink milk any more. Those people say milk makes you fat, but according to the research, that is not true. I just read that they actually believe milk helps you lose weight. So who knows.

I think my stomach has gone into spasms. I haven't experienced this since my late 20s early 30s. I think it is the stress feeling I'm having right now. A lot of things going on. We are going to the Discovery Place Museum in Charlotte Thursday and a lot of walking involved. I am going to take my Hugo walker so I will be able to sit when I need to and still get the benefit of walking. DH talked about taking the wheelchair (we still have all the stuff from his deceased wife and mother), but I would rather walk as much as I can. However, I am nervous about 2 days of doing this. Tomorrow we will go to Billy Graham's Museum and the Carolinas Aviation Museum. I'll take the Hugo for that as well. I did an Aviation Museum one time on our way to IN and I only used my cane and it was really hard on me. I just don't want to resort to a wheelchair. So the Hugo will be my choice for the 2 days in Charlotte. I just haven't done any of this type of thing in several years so I'm kind of nervous about it. I am curious as to how I do though because I found so many museums to go see in the Carolinas and many of them are only 1 day trips. DH and I never do anything any more. I'm thinking it would be so nice if we could plan a short trip maybe once a month to see something we haven't seen before. It would be so good for both of us.

DGD from IN is looking at colleges and she just might decide to come to Winthrop. If she does, that will mean that we won't be moving from SC so I may as well get use to the idea that I won't be moving back to TX near my family. May be one of my stomach problems too. I dread having to tell my Daddy that I won't be moving back at least while he is living. However, she is looking for a full scholarship so she won't be living here. She definitely wants to live on campus.

I'm not sure DGS will ever graduate. He doesn't make his morning classes half the time. I don't see how that will ever work in his favor, but we keep trudging along with him. I have to fight the tendency to resent the fact that I didn't get to move this year because of him and he doesn't even give a crap whether he makes it or not. In fact, he told me his attitude is he just wants to give up. I feel like we have made this sacrifice all for nothing. I keep hoping he will change.

Hopefully next week when my stomach gets back to normal (hopefully), I will get with my low carb eating again. I'm going to use some of the ideas I learned from the Thompson tools and see it as "Practice until it becomes a habit" attitude.

Carol Sue I still like the idea of making my own rules and limits. I think as long as legumes are not hurting you then keep it in your plan. I think fiber is important. However, I think what has made my stomach problem this time is that I probably added too much fiber too soon. Hey I still believe this is "our year". We may just figure out what to do and how to do it, but since that will lead us to long term success, that will be more than we have had in the past.

Sorry this is so long.

Have a good day.

pattygirl63 10-06-2015 05:01 PM

Here is a link to the article about the new research they have learned about Paleo's eating grains.

http://theplate.nationalgeographic.c...in-paleo-diet/

Wannabehealthy 10-07-2015 07:38 AM

Trish, I am OK giving up grains because of all I've read about what they do to your body, but that is wheat etc. There are some other grains that are OK, but I forgot which ones they are. I think barley and quinoa, which is not really a grain. I don't eat a lot of fiber, other than my veggies. I cook them well, and they say that helps with digesting them. I don't eat beans every day, but do want to eat things like chili, and my corn/black bean salsa. I am no where near where they say you should be with fiber, but I try.

I think you are going above and beyond with your DGS, and also with DGD when she comes. I don't think I could be as patient and understanding with them, especially when DGS has such a bad attitude. You should be able to move if you want to. Since he doesn't care, he should have to find his own way, but I know you won't do that to him.

I don't think I could do all that walking now, either. I need to get back to my treadmill, seriously. I do a lot of walking in the stores, but I always have a cart, that helps as a walker. We go when the stores are not crowded, and I walk a few laps around the store before we leave. It feels good to do that. Also, when I walk on my treadmill I hold onto the rails. So I'm not accustomed to a lot of walking without assistance.

I hope your stomach feels better soon. I have a cold right now and I'm battling that. It's always something.

pattygirl63 10-07-2015 10:34 AM

Carol Sue I hope you are over your cold soon.

I ate breakfast this morning to see how it will do on my stomach before we leave. I had no problem yesterday, but I ate a lot of crackers etc to soak up the acid in my stomach.

DGS didn't make his class this morning. He suddenly realized that he just can't do it. Come to find out he had 2 minors. By dropping the class, he has given up one of his minors. He will take another class to make up what he needs so now he will graduate with his class in May instead of August. Let's up on a lot of stress. We probably can go back to our original plan to move in May. We will just have to decide where we really want to move to.

As for DGD, she has 2 more years before she graduates high school so she may change her mind several times before then. She was wanting to go somewhere else for a long time. So I wouldn't make decisions around her, at least not at this time any way.

Friday things will get back to normal and I hope to get back to eating the way I want to. Although I'm not eating way off right now.

Busy day today so I will get with it.

p.a. 10-07-2015 10:34 AM

Morning ladies...Monday night my grandson decided to make his grand appearance. I was in the delivery room as well. Quite the experience. Been very busy the last two days so today I will rest maybe even nap. Hospital food is awful. I ate more carbs then I have all year....today I'm doing a 500 calorie fat to rid crap from my body. Weight is up and weigh in is Friday.
I did whole 30 a while ago. It was good! I made the 30 days to.
Bbl

pattygirl63 10-07-2015 11:44 PM

p.a. CONGRATULATIONS on the new grandson. :congrat:

Wannabehealthy 10-08-2015 09:40 AM

p.a. Contrats on the new grand baby! I have never given birth, and have never seen a baby being born. I don't know how I'd like that. I have seen it on TV on medical shows, but they only show what they want you to see. When I was in the hospital, I liked the food. I know I am rare! And DH liked eating in the cafeteria while I was there. I think it was just better than having to cook for himself.

Trish, I am glad to hear your GS will be finishing up sooner than expected and you can move on with your plans. It's hard to be in limbo.

I was starting to feel better then I felt worse again last night. Today is it mostly runny nose and coughing...just annoying, but I feel Ok otherwise. I have been eating more carbs lately, because they seem to soothe me. No sweets, but I had a baked potato with lots of butter for lunch, and DH brought McDonald's for dinner and I ate a chicken sandwich on a bun. Not what I would have liked to have, but when I'm not cooking, DH only thinks of McDonalds. We have many restaurants that I could call in a take-out order and he could pick it up, but beggars can't be choosers.

pattygirl63 10-08-2015 10:02 AM

Carol Sue :hug:Sorry you are still not feeling up to par. Hope that changes soon. I don't think you can worry about the carbs while sick. I have had a little more carbs than usual because I also needed it to sooth my stomach to keep the acid down because I was in a situation where even a swallow of water caused GERD type reactions. Sometime you just have to do the best that you can.

My stomach has been better the past few days. DH son and granddaughter leave early in the morning so I will attempt to start back on lowcarbing tomorrow. I am strongly looking at Whole30 although I think it will be a challenge to do it for 30 days. I've got some ideas in my mind which I think I can do to make it work. It is only for 30 days and I would love to have the base of it. However, I also believe that if I could do AI for the 2 weeks or a even a month, it would do the same thing. So I'm thinking about it. Which ever I decide to do, I will begin it tomorrow.

We are going to Discovery Place in Charlotte today. We plan to go to a restaurant called Rock Bottom which is next door to it after we get through walking around. I will be using the Hugo walker today. It sure made walking the Aviation place a lot easier for me. I used my cane at the Billy Graham Library because I knew they had a lot of seating areas in each room on the tour. It makes me feel like I could do more walking if I used the walker. I might start doing that. DH would walk if I would walk with him and the walker would make it doable.

Well, I've got to get DH up so we can get this day going and I want to see if I can find a menu for the Rock Bottom restaurant since I started on plan this morning. It would be nice if I could stay OP the whole day.

p.a. I suspect you will be going to see that new DGS so not sure we will hear from you much. LOL I don't blame you at all.

Have a good day.

huntress 10-08-2015 12:54 PM

Can anyone recommend the best diet plan for someone newly diagnosed.

Wannabehealthy 10-08-2015 01:05 PM

Welcome, Huntress! Sorry to hear you've received the dreaded diabetes diagnosis. The main thing you should do is cut out sweets as much as you can. I know it can be hard to go cold turkey. Also, cut back on starchy carbs, such as potatoes, rice, pasta, flour based foods like bread and pizza, sugar sweetened drinks. Eat more vegetables. You should get a glucose meter and test 2 hours after each meal to see how that meal effected your blood sugar. If it goes up too high, then there was something in that meal you should avoid. This would give you a good start, and your doctor will probably set you up to go to a class with a dieticion who will give you guidelines to follow.

Good luck to you!

pattygirl63 10-09-2015 09:12 AM

Huntress Welcome. At first it is a shock to be diagnosed, but if you get right on a good plan you can live with then you will do fine. Diet and exercise has a lot to do with keeping things in check.

Company is gone. DGS is gone until sometime tomorrow so DH and I have the house to ourselves at least until tomorrow sometime. We really enjoyed having Hubby's DS and DGD. And I actually didn't do too bad with all the eating out. I only gained 2.4 lbs which hopefully I will get back off before my WI Monday morning. I may not lose any weight this week, but if I can come through the week with no gain then I will count that as a success.

I didn't do bad with all the walking either which I'm sure is why there wasn't any more gain than there was. I had a hypoglycemic attack just before we went into the IMAX show. I had some diabetic tablets and it must have been extremely low because it took 3 of them to get myself together. I dozed off in the show just enough to get myself back to normal. It was my fault because I had only eaten an egg with a pinch of grated mozzarella cheese and a little bit of lf crumbled turkey sausage that I had nuked and eaten before we left. DH asked me if I wanted anything to eat a little bit before we went in to IMAX, but they didn't have anything OP and I was so determined not to eat junk. It is a good thing I had the diabetic tablets. It was crazy to do that and I won't make that mistake again. We got there around noon and left just before they closed. So I was on the move most of the time. I was amazed that my feet and back didn't hurt.

I probably did more walking in the past 2 days than I have done at one time in ages. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I haven't decided if I'm going to ride my recumbent bike today or not although I really think it would be good to go ahead and do it today and tomorrow.

I am going to do OP my own plan leaning more toward a combination of LC/IE/IF ((Low carb/Intuitive Eating/Intermittent Fasting) eating mostly protein, veggies and some fruit and will eat mostly real food most of the time. No diet foods and as little processed foods as possible.

I'm using some of the ideas I got from the Thompson videos but not all. I've decided that I need some flexibility in my food plan because life happens. I need to make room for those things so that I don't feel like a complete failure when they do. Like you Carol Sue, I have a DH who decides to go eat at a place that is not always Low carb friendly. Most of the time I can handle it, but not always so I want to be flexible for those times when I can't stay Low carb. If I have an off/cheat day/meal as part of my plan, then there will be no such thing as a screw up or failure feelings. I am going to set limits of 2 or 3 meals and 1 snack each day and eat nothing after 8 pm regardless of when my 1st meal is eaten. I will exercise a minimum of 3 days a week for 20 minutes and maximum of 20 minutes 6 days a week on the recumbent bike. The change on that will depend on other activity such as walking on some days. I know some people may not think this Intuitive Eating, but I personally like eating more Low carb and setting a cut off time for eating when possible. After all, this is MY Personal Plan that I can live with.

Carol Sue Hope you are on the downside of that cold.

Got a lot of washing to do. DS brought down the sheets and towels so I'm washing today so we can get the upstairs ready for whoever I next visitors will be.

Have a great day and weekend.

Wannabehealthy 10-09-2015 10:56 AM

Trish, sorry to hear about your hypo. I should probably knock on wood, but I have only had 1 hypo since diagnosed 7 years ago, and that was because I took more med than I need. Now I ALWAYS test before I take it to be sure I really need it. If not eating carbs, I usually don't need it and don't take it. I know it's prescribed just to take 1mg twice a day, but if I take it when I don't need it I have to eat carbs to counteract it. Glad you had your glucose pills with you.

I am still coughing up a lot of congestion, but generally feel better.

p.a. 10-09-2015 09:16 PM

Afternoon everyone
With eating at the hospital and just being busy this week I'm up 4 pounds....ouch!! Ok time to get back to what I was eating before.

Wannabehealthy 10-10-2015 09:24 AM

p.a. How's the new grand baby doing? It's hard to stay on plan when you're away from home so much, but you will get back to it. I am up 1 lb and I haven't been eating out!! These things happen.

My cold got a little worse last night. I started having pain in my left ear. That's never good. It's the weekend now so I can't get in to see the doctor unless I go to MedExpress and that's $40 as compared to a Dr visit which is $10. I am going to try to hold out until Monday. If I can't get in to see the doctor I can get a visit with a NP, and that will do for a small problem like this. I might need antibiotics. Otherwise, I'm feeling better.

Wannabehealthy 10-12-2015 09:43 AM

I have been concentrating on eating less. I'm including some carbs, but it's things like baked sweet potatoes, not white carbs. Also, I have been cutting out some night time eating. I'm down 2 lbs and my blood sugar is down a bit, so I'm glad about that. I think I will gradually cut back more, in small enough increments that my body won't notice as much and see how I do.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

Wish we would hear from Bonnie, but I know she doesn't post much. Trish, you mentioned that the weather was really bad in her area. Have you heard any more about how bad it was? I hope she and her family are OK. She was having so many family problems there for a while.

pattygirl63 10-12-2015 10:24 AM

Carol Sue I was going by the fact that Bonnie lived in a place where flooding and loss of power was so bad in times past. However, I think this time it was more on the Atlantic side of I-95 and Columbia. So she might not have had it so bad this time. I think everyone has power back now.

I'm glad you are doing well and Congratulations on the 2 lbs down. :carrot:

I've decided that dieting isn't going to work for me. It just makes me want more to eat. I did keep the 226.8 which is amazing to me with all the carbs I ate the past 2 days and I even forgot to take a fluid pill so it is real. So I ended last week with a 3 lb loss instead of the 5 I would have lost. I am going strictly IE and lean more toward fiber. I think that is the way for me do this, because if I can't have something that is exactly what I want. I know I have that problem so I have to turn it around and make it work for me instead of against me. Somehow take my weaknesses and turn them into strengths.

I have company coming for brunch in a few minutes and I am making a nice egg casserole for us more low carbish friendly although not strict.

Catch ya later. Have a good day.

p.a. 10-13-2015 10:58 AM

Morning everyone
Had a wonderful thanksgiving weekend here....ate too much but that's part of the holiday right?
Carson is doing great. My dd is bringing him over tonight for a visit with nana..but without my dgd ,,,she won't let me hold him long before she tells me to give him to mommy lol.
This morning was blood work for my 3 month A1C check. I go back Monday to see Dr..would be nice if its down again.

Carol I call that baby steps....little changes at a time. Good for you!!
Trish dieting dosnt work for everyone,,..or no one would have a weight problem right? You will find something that clicks. Don't quit trying.. :)

pattygirl63 10-13-2015 01:04 PM

p.a. I forgot y'all were having your Thanksgiving holiday. Glad you enjoyed it as well as enjoying that precious new grandson.

I'm not giving up on eating healthy. In fact, I got up this morning and decided I wanted 1/2 a grapefruit first thing and then I actually wanted an egg salad for breakfast.

I'm re-reading the book Lowcarb for dummies book. She uses the WWP+ idea of certain fruits, veggies are freebie foods, but she also includes lean protein as part of the freebie foods. No counting calories. She says people may eat bigger portions in the beginning, but when they adjust to knowing they can have it whenever they want, that the portions diminish. She does allow any foods, but limit them to occasional.

Since I am choosing to do Intuitive Eating woe, this actually fits me very well. It is just learning to eat healthy most of the time, but to eat when hungry and eat only as much as needed to be satisfied.

Carol Sue I hope you are feeling okay.

Busy day today. Hope everyone has a good day.

Wannabehealthy 10-13-2015 03:45 PM

Trish, to me, IE is just common sense when it comes to eat when you're hungry and stop when you're satisfied, but I just can't go along with "eat what you want." Many people take that to mean a free for all on sweets, and that is never good. Personally, I have to watch my carbs because of my diabetes. Some diabetics can allow more carbs than others. I say I follow low carb and I try very hard, but I slip up more times than I like to admit, but I will not quit trying. I will not give in to stronger pills and insulin. I am not even at 80/20...more like 60/40, but always trying to improve. I agree that there are no good/bad foods, but variety and moderation are key! I know that you agree with me, but some on the IE thread do not. That's why I will no longer post there. I'm tired of getting beat up. You know who I mean.

Oh, p.a. I love Thanksgiving. I love that it's a feast, but it's just one day and not like Christmas when the feasting lasts for weeks. LOL That's funny that dgd won't let you hold dgs too long.

I hope you get a good A1c.

pattygirl63 10-14-2015 12:24 PM

I've been re-reading Low-carb Dieting for Dummies. I am using the basoc guidelines of this book. No counting calories although I am going to keep my starchy carbs between 45 to 75 grams. I like the idea of eating more grains than non. I just like the suggestions in this book and how this was originally an experiment she did to see how it would work. She found that this way of eating lowers LDL Cholesterol and triglycerides and balances glucose while it increases the HDL Cholesterol and lowers the risk of heart attacks and strokes. And it does all this with diet and exercise. I'm still doing low-carb, but not 0 to 20 carbs which is impossible for me to do. This is very doable. Now all I have to do is make it a routine/habit so it becomes a lifestyle for me. I can do this by picking the foods that I truly like even the grains and legumes and nuts that I like with the amount of protein and fats that I also like. And I can become and stay healthy along the way.

Wannabehealthy 10-15-2015 07:50 AM

Trish, I was reading Primal Blueprint by Mark Sisson. He says that most people can do well as long as they stay below 100gm of carb per day and anything below 50 gm is really not healthy. It seems that Dr Atkins came up with the 20gm of carb limit and convinced people that it is required, when really, it's better to be a little higher. It's low enough to keep your insulin levels low and insulin is what causes fat storage. So if you find the number that works for you, you're good to go! I know I have never been able to do 20 or below for more than a couple days.

p.a. 10-15-2015 11:40 AM

Morning
I've been lurking on the low carb board here to get some new ideas.
I try to keep my carbs under 100... But I don't consider net carbs. I hear yes and no on net carbs so I just count carbs.
Down a pound this week,,that's with yesterday being a fast day. The scale wasn't budging at all before yesterday. So easy to put on so hard to take off.

pattygirl63 10-15-2015 02:00 PM

Carol Sue I've had to face the fact that I just CANNOT do just 20 carb low-carb plan. This seems to be working for me doing this the way this book says. I am doing this Intuitively and I've spent the last few days getting used to the plan and the weight is dropping a fraction a day which I like because I know at my age slow is good. Today, my appetite seems to be more tame. I probably ate a little more carbs yesterday, but the weight still went down.

p.a. That is interesting about the net carbs. I really didn't know what to do about that either. I've been counting the net carbs. I saw something in the store the other day that actually had net carb count on it instead of the full carb count. I'm wondering if that is going to be the new way of label I heard they are going to come out with. Can't remember what the product was.

I'm really doing well. My plan seems to be more like WW without the pts and I am enjoying this. Being that this is my "personal", and I'm doing it intuitively, I am not stuck with how much I have to eat or when or how often I have to eat it. As long as the weight comes off and my health improves, that is all I care about.

Have a good one.

Wannabehealthy 10-16-2015 10:01 AM

I think it's a personal choice to count carbs or net carbs. As long as it's working for you, it really doesn't matter. The fiber in vegetables makes the carbs negligible, so it makes sense to count net carbs. I usually count total carbs, but I do look at the fiber count.

Congratulations to both of you on the losses.

Wannabehealthy 10-17-2015 10:48 AM

There's rarely anyone here on the weekends.

I had a terrible day yesterday. My cold started coming back and I felt awful. Cold, then hot, tired. I was craving "comfort food" and ate a whole package of Alfredo Noodles myself, then had some french fries that DH was eating, and then a big roll with butter. It was very comforting, but with no protein with it, my blood sugar went sky high. I'm surprised I wasn't feeling any symptoms, but after testing, I took 2 Glimiperide and went to Walmart. I needed a few things and figured walking around the store would help bring the blood sugar down. I'll surely be more careful with my eating now!

pattygirl63 10-17-2015 05:17 PM

Carol Sue I hope you are feeling better today.

I got a really good deal to upgrade to a new cell phone. A brand I've never heard of but it is a $149.99 phone and I got it for $29.99. My other phone was at least 5 yrs old and I it wasn't always reading my SD card. My DS thought the phone was going out on me. So I took advantage of the deal for the new one. I told DH I didn't want the old one to go out and then I would have to spend more to get a new one. I've been spending last night and today setting it up and learning how to use it. Keeps my hands busy and I am not munching at night.

p.a. 10-18-2015 09:51 AM

Morning weekends are slower here.
Trish that's a great deal..
Carol I hear you on the comfort food....it's always carby isn't it.
Tomorrow morning is my next Drs appt. I was able to see my results from my blood work already online. My A1C is down to 7.2 that's way down from my first test. But, still need to work on it. See what dr has to say.

Wannabehealthy 10-18-2015 10:12 AM

p.a. I was never told what my A1c was when I was first diagnosed. I was in the hospital having open heart surgery, and they were more concerned about my heart than my diabetes. Since then, the lowest I've had was 5.6 and the highest was 7.9. I feel better when it's at least as low as 6.5 and my doctor is usually satisfied if it's below 7. If yours is coming down, that's always good. I would like to note that the 5.6 was during a time when I was exercising regularly, something I should be doing now. I keep waiting for this cold to subside, but it wants to linger......

Good deal on the phone, Trish. My last one broke in less than a year, before I even learned all the features. Rather than take the warranty I bought a better one and now I have to learn the features of this one. LOL

p.a. 10-19-2015 02:54 PM

Back from Drs.....she was amazed with my blood sugars were 5.2 and fasting was 7.2. Told me to keep up the great work. Suggested I walk more and watch what I eat for the blood fasting number. I've never talked to her about the dawn phenomenon....
Weight's down , blood pressure is down....overall a great appt!

Carol she wants mine under 7 as well.... Feel better soon!

pattygirl63 10-19-2015 04:09 PM

p.a. Congratulations on your good doctor's visit.

Carol Sue Hope you are getting over that cold.

I started riding the recumbent bike again today. I went ahead and did 30 minutes and thinking about doing 15 more later. I'm doing pretty good with my eating, but fbs isn't near what I want it to be even though I'm not eating much these days. So I've decided that there is only one thing left to do and that is get back to exercising. I do want to work up to 45 minutes 5 or 6 days a week. Hopefully that will get my bs back down to normal.

I decided to try the Metformin 500 ER again. I hope I will be able to use it. I've just about decided that if I can't take it and the doctor refuses to give me the glymeperide that I just may find another doctor who will. It is ridiculous for them to have a medication that will help me and he won't give it to me. But I will give the exercise a chance to work between now and when I see him at the end of next month.

p.a. 10-20-2015 11:20 AM

Good for you Trish,,,,I've been walking but I think I need to do something else with it. Maybe I'll head back to aquafit


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