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p.a. 11-15-2015 08:59 AM

Morning everyone
I'm getting a little frustrated with my lack of weight loss since sept...I feel like I'm bouncing. Up a little down a little. I'm still low carbing it,,,my bg thanks me.
I think I have to go back to measuring my food again....it's easy to let that slide.

Good going Carol!

Wannabehealthy 11-15-2015 09:31 AM

p.a. I think you're right on about measuring your food. Low carb is good, but in spite of most low carb diets saying you can eat as much as you want, it doesn't turn out that way. You still have to be careful about the amount of food you eat.

Yesterday was a fluke. I ate a McDonalds sausage and egg McMuffin around 8, so it contained carbs which usually spike my BG. Since my BS was around 180 I took 1/2 a glimiperide when I ate. Due to circumstances beyond my control, I had no food available until 4 PM. I was hungry, but a bearable hunger. That was 8 hours between meals and my BG was 120 at dinner time. My dinner was a grilled chicken salad without the french fries. Before bed I ate some cereal...carbs and this morning my BG was over 200 again. I think if I did not have that cereal at bedtime I would have been fine. Not eating for 8 hours during the day brought my BG down. So why doesn't not eating overnight have the same effect. Does the Dawn Affect ONLY happen during sleep, but not when you're awake? If I could find the way to keep my BG from rising overnight I think I would have this licked, but starting out the day with a BG over 200 really puts a wrench in the works.

Back when I was in my 30s and thin, I ate very small dinnners and nothing before bed. I didn't have diabetes then, but it kept my weight in the 130 range and I slept like a rock. Was that because my stomach was empty or is my poor sleep due to aging now?

Watercolor 11-15-2015 11:34 AM

Diana,
Congrats on getting below 200 BG. You're doing something right.

p.a.,
I agree, something's not working. Could be measuring, could be exercise? Keep plugging away, you'll find it!


I had a family gathering yesterday. I had some ice cream (my biggest weakness). So of course this morning I'm up a pound and my BG is up, at 157. I've already told that pound that it is temporary and not to get too comfy!

Wannabehealthy 11-15-2015 09:34 PM

Watercolor, it seems that you are responding to me, but my name is Carol, not Diana, so I'm not sure. We don't have a Diana posting on this thread.

Ice cream really spikes my BG but I only like chocolate, so when it's another flavor I can easily pass it up.

I have been reading about the Dawn Phenomenon and also the second meal effect. I don't understand how I can go 6-8 hours between breakfast and dinner and my blood glucose goes down, but overnight it goes up. It seems that there are hormonal changes during sleep that cause the rise in blood glucose. Your body thinks your BS is low so it releases more glucose. And I still don't understand the second meal effect. It's something about if you eat low carb at the first meal your blood glucose will not rise after the second meal, either. It also seems to have something to do with resistant starch, so I might go back to drinking the potato starch mixed in water before meals. I didn't notice any effect when I did it before, but maybe I didn't do it long enough.

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

Watercolor 11-16-2015 12:23 PM

Yes, Carol, so sorry. I got my moderaters mixed up. LOL I was told in my case it probably wasn't Dawn phenomena because my meds don't lower my BG. I'm on metformin and Januvia. The other test, I was told, was to eat 0 carbs after 6 pm. if your BG is lower in the morning, then you don't have DP. I found that is true for me.

My weight was the same this morning. Another day of higher carbs yesterday. I'm getting back in gear today.

Wannabehealthy 11-16-2015 03:30 PM

Even when I was only on Metformin my AM blood glucose was higher than it was the night before, but I have always been confused whether to eat a snack or not. Some people say a snack is the way to prevent the Dawn Phenomenon. A nurse at cadiac rehab told me not to eat a snack unless I'm hungry. I think that's because I'm overweight and shouldn't be eating when I'm not hungry.

I had a low carb breakfast, eggs, with sauteed mushrooms. I had a salad for lunch, and 2 spoonfuls of DH's mac and cheese. For dinner I am having pork and asparagus. I saw it's no carbs, but vegetables are carbs, but no starchy carbs.

Wannabehealthy 11-17-2015 08:34 AM

Last night my husband was eating some apple slices and didn't want them all so I finished them, then I thought "That was carbs!" But I still ate my 1 egg before bed and this morning my FBS was lower, so I guess the carbs in the apple didn't hurt me much. I think my exercise yesterday had something to do with the lower BS, too. I will get this blood sugar down! And if some weight loss comes with it, it's all good. I don't consider myself to be on a diet, but I am cutting carbs because of the diabetes, not because of weight. And I am doing fairly well skipping the between-meal eating. I think that's helping two-fold, with BS and weight. Also, I find that I enjoy my meals so much better if I'm actually hungry when I eat. Imagine that! LOL

p.a. 11-17-2015 10:31 AM

Water color I'm on the same meds you are....I was under the impression they do lower my bg? But I'm new to this and had to look up a lot of info at the beginning. I really think I do get the dawn phenomenon ...I was eating lower carbs at night with a bg of 5 or so but wake up in the morning and always a fasting level of 6.8 to 7. But,,,,the last 2 nights now an even lower carb snack , bg is 4.5 before bed and when I wake up it's been 5.5 . I'm so happy it's finally where I want it to be. Low carb is working for me!!

Watercolor 11-17-2015 12:49 PM

p.a.
I should have said they lower BG, but in an indirect way, by not letting the liver release as much sugar (glycogen) into the blood stream. I cannot take the sulfonarea meds like Glyberide. They make me super hungry all day long and I just have to keep eating. Not very helpful.

Carol
Apples are so full of fiber that it probably slipped through your body unnoticed. Apples - the stealth fruit. And of course you only ate a small part of one.
I've heard a couple of different things about snacking -
- if you're sugar is high, don't eat
- if you feel hungry, eat but not a lot
I just eat something 0 carb if I'm hungry but BG is high. BTW, I count all green veggies as 0 carb, even though technically they have a few. Like my nutritionist said "a head of lettuce didn't make you fat and diabetic". I was told to count milk, fruit and grains as carbs, and lay low on orange veggies. I was told to stay between 75-90 grams of carbs a day.

ME
Hanging in there with diabetic LC plan
B - string cheese, coffee with milk
L - Lemon chicken and potatoes, no veg :(
D - A whole lotta green beans roasted with EVOO, salt and pepper
S - Another string cheese, sugar free popsicles
I think I lost another half pound, my scale does whole pounds only, but it's flickering between 184 and 183.

Wannabehealthy 11-17-2015 02:56 PM

I decided to read up about Januvia to see how it works. It lowers blood sugar by helping your pancreas release more insulin. It works only when you need it, instead of like my Glimiperide that lower blood sugar whether you need it or not. So according to that, Januvia will not cause a low. Metformin works by stopping your liver from releasing more glucose.

Watercolor, I know that the biggest problem I have is eating too much. I should eat smaller meals. I don't count the carbs in veggies either. I know some are higher carb, like carrots and corn. I still eat them, but try to keep the quantities lower. I agree with your nutritionist. I always say no one ever got fat/diabetic from eating broccoli. When I read Dr Fuhrman's The End of Diabetes he said that the nutrients in fruits and vegetables, even carrots, far outweighs any carbs you maybe getting from them.

Watercolor 11-17-2015 03:40 PM

Carol
I so agree with Dr. Fuhrman on that.
Besides, corn really helps with uh... my plumbing.

Cindy

Wannabehealthy 11-17-2015 06:14 PM

LOL on the corn, Cindy. One time I asked my BIL if he wanted some corn and he said "I can't eat corn...it goes straight through me." I told him it goes straight through everybody!

p.a. 11-18-2015 10:07 AM

Lol it sure does,,,,

I think I found my answer, 3 nights of having a very low carb snack at night, ( if I'm hungry) and 3 mornings of bg reading of 5.6. I've also noticed since I'm even lower carb now my readings during the day arnt spiking. my number after 2 hours is the same as before I ate. I'm very happy with my plan! Bonus my weight has dropped this week. Only 2 pounds away from my ticker.

Carol so those of us on Janumet (combo of junovia/metformin) , my pancreas is releasing insulin as needed and my liver is producing less glucose. Just trying to understand what's going on in my body. When my dh was diagnosed he went to a clinic and I went with him for support...the ladies there were great at explaining how diabetes affected your body and what it was,,,,I wish I would have paid more attention. They had it laid out on a big sheet like a cartoon.

Wannabehealthy 11-18-2015 12:58 PM

When I was diagnosed, I was in the hospital having open heart surgery. In the recovery room they started injecting insulin and told me I was diabetic. When I went to the cardiac floor, I don't think the nurses realized I hadn't been diabetic before. No one told me anything. They gave me a meter and a little booklet and told me to check my BG and write it in the little book, but they didn't show me HOW to check it, or what to do about the numbers. When I left the hospital they told me my BG was down far enough that I didn't need insulin and gave me RXs for pills. They didn't send me to anyone to give me information. What I learned I learned from my PCP and from reading online and books I got from the library. I wish I could only eat low carb. It would help my BG so much, but I still eat some carbs because I cook for DH. I also need to get back into the habit of exercising more.

p.a. 11-18-2015 06:38 PM

Holy cow Carol...that's awful.

Wannabehealthy 11-18-2015 08:10 PM

Well, I got through it. I guess this is why I am still surprised at some of the things other people say. It's something I never heard before because I never went to a nutritionist or a diabetes educator. Everyone's main concern was my heart.

I know what to do, but I don't always do it. Tonight we went out to eat and I ordered a grilled chicken salad. Good. I picked all the french fries out of it. Good. But when she brought the garlic bread, I ate it, knowing what would happen. I really have to learn to say "Hold the bread." Why do I love bread so much? It really has no taste.

Watercolor 11-19-2015 11:04 AM

p.a.
I'm so happy for you that you figured out what works for you. Nothing worse than being stuck in neutral...

Carol
I'm sad to hear you got too little support and education at your diagnosis. That was a real disservice to you by the doctors/nurses. Yes, they probably viewed diabetes as the least of your problems then, but still...
Just good work at being self taught and helping others. Unfortunately, diabetes is all too common and so there's information everywhere.

Wannabehealthy 11-19-2015 12:28 PM

I think the nurses on the cardiac floor didn't realize I was a newly diagnosed diabetic. They were just told to test me and inject insulin. Even though I am now on pills, when I go into the hospital they just inject insulin and don't bother with the pills. I think it's just easier for them. It doesn't matter to me either way as long as I don't have to inject the insulin at home.

p.a. 11-19-2015 04:26 PM

Carol I can't resist garlic bread either,,,,,,or any artisan breads. This week I've passed up a PC of really good homemade bread and a chewy crusty bun.mmmmmm I told them no thanks before it was put in front of me...if it were in front of me I could easily talk myself into eating it.

Wannabehealthy 11-19-2015 05:43 PM

We've been eating out a lot lately. I had to go to the doctor's today for a BP check so we went to Bob Evans for dinner. I had grilled salmon with carrots and broccoli. For my bread I chose Banana Nut because I knew DH would eat it, so I was good. Now I have to try not to snack on anything between now and bedtime.

Watercolor 11-19-2015 06:19 PM

Carol,
Actually, that's how all hospitals treat inpatients, even those who do not take insulin at home. They call it SSI - sliding scale insulin. Good food choices at Bob Evans! The choice of bread was great, get your wing-man to eat it all!

p.a.
I'm celiac and can't eat gluten, but when I see pretty bakedi goods it's hard to resist. So I have an occasional pity party. I'm used to it. Just don't put me into a gluten free bakery - I would need a wheelbarrow to get out!

Wannabehealthy 11-20-2015 08:30 AM

Cindy, I have never tasted gluten free bread. I know my grandson didn't like it when he had to eat it. The day the doctor decided to take him off the gluten free diet they took him straight to McDonalds so he could have a hamburger on a white bun. At home I use sprouted grain wheat bread. I buy it at Target and keep it in the freezer. I rarely eat it, only when I want toast with my eggs or if I'm making a sandwich. It is lower calorie/carb. Now I started buying low carb Pitas. I keep them frozen too but eat them more often. I cut them in half and put a salad in them, and eat it like a sandwich. It's getting me to eat more salad greens. It's out in a restaurant when they bring those rolls and bread that I have a hard time resisting. My FBG is 208 this morning. I want to scream every time I see that, but I will keep trying to get it to come down.

Watercolor 11-20-2015 09:10 AM

Carol
I don't do gluten free bread much at all, it's tough to take. It's the gluten free baked goods that get to me. OMG.

ME
Down another pound thanks to a healthy carb day. I made a pot of veggie minestrone with chickpeas and no pasta. I love homemade soups and stews and this is the time of year for them.

p.a. 11-20-2015 04:32 PM

I was down two pounds today,,,,,, I tried a little experiment late yesterday. I ate an apple later in the day and this morning my bg was 6.2....- all week without eating an apple it was 5.2. Apples will now become a treat not a daily thing like they were. I'm going to try raspberries next...I miss fruit.

Wannabehealthy 11-21-2015 09:05 AM

Congratulations to both of you on your weight loss. Good deal!

p.a. I have never been a fruit eater. I like bananas which are pretty much off limits now. I eat apples and pears sometimes, but fruit is never a first choice if I'm hungry. It's something I always try to make myself eat because it's "healthy." I don't like berries either. I love grapefruit and used to eat it often, but don't you know, I'm not allowed to have it at all now because it interacts with one of my meds. Really, I would rather have the grapefruit and skip the med. LOL

Watercolor 11-21-2015 09:12 AM

p.a.
Maybe because you ate the apple late in the day? I can't eat carbs after 5 pm if I want a low fasting BG in the morning.

Carol
Sorry you can't have grapefruit, it's a great flavor. I love fruit, but it's hard to work it into diabetic eating. I had some blueberries from Argentina yesterday that were scrum. It's hard to get really yummy fruit up here in Boston this time of year, so I relish it.

Wannabehealthy 11-22-2015 06:51 AM

When I worked at a mail order pharmacy, I looked up the information about having grapefruit with my meds. It said "do not drink large amounts of grapefruit while taking this med, such as a quart or more." On my morning break I used to eat one of those single serve cups of grapefruit with juice. It contains maybe 4 grapefruit sections along with some juice. My boss told me to quit eating it and even got one of the pharmacists involved who said I should not be having any at all. I wanted to show him what it said about it in our own database, but figured it wasn't worth arguing about. I still buy it once in a while and spread a little single serve out over a couple days, just to get a taste of it with my breakfast. I don't eat a whole grapefruit, just a couple sections. It says that it increases the potency of your meds and can damage your liver, but I only take half of what the doctor prescribes for me, so I should be OK if it increases it. Right? LOL I know I should not play around with my doses, but my blood work still comes out in the satisfactory range. I like the pink grapefruit the best.

DH always eats cereal before he goes to bed. Last night he made Cream of Wheat and I just had to have a big spoonful of it! And he had already put sugar in it. It was delicious, but I paid for it this morning with my BS.

p.a. 11-22-2015 06:00 PM

Yes I will play around with times and fruit...I had never thought of that before

Wannabehealthy 11-23-2015 11:51 AM

p.a. I know you already had Thanksgiving in Canada, but Cindy, are you cooking for Thanksgiving? This year I am only cooking for DH and I, a small dinner for just us, as other family members are going elsewhere this year. It will be quiet and relaxing, and I don't have to share my turkey with anyone!! LOL I love turkey, and turkey leftovers.

Wannabehealthy 11-25-2015 12:36 PM

I struggled through last night but didn't eat anything after dinner. I woke up with a headache, but my FBG was 176, not over 200 like it's been running. I know that's not good, but it's a step in the right direction.

pattygirl63 11-25-2015 06:31 PM

I've been MIA. Tried to go strict IE, but my way of eating isn't really IE since I've been told that IE is not for losing weight. :dizzy:

I guess they are right because my way of doing this is with low carbing and IE doesn't believe in cutting out certain food groups either. I wasn't going to cut out the carbs because of what I've been learning from Weigh Down videos. However, after really understanding some things on there, someone on another low carb site recommended the following link and it all came together for me. I'm sharing the link in case you want to check it out.

https://lowcarbrn.wordpress.com/2015...force-the-fat/

I especially thought of you Carol Sue when I read this because like me, you don't really care to eat a lot of fat added to your food. I thought you might like to read it.

According to Weigh Down, when you wait until you are truly hungry before you eat, you are allowing your body to use the stored fat to burn. Also by allowing your body to use your stored fat for energy, you don't eat as much at your meal. Then I read the link about how the doctor figured out that by adding lots of fat like a lot of lc diets say, he found he gained weight instead of losing. If I read this right (and correct me if you don't see it this way), he does add some fat to his food when he prepares it like butter, avocado (but not a whole avocado which he explains why), but he doesn't load it down with fat. He explains that his reason is that if we add a lot of fat to our diet that our body will burn the fat we eat and not the fat we are trying to get rid of.

He says that his plate is 1/2 non-carb vegetables and 1/2 protein/full fat dairy. Although I have to go to the doctor Monday, I've decided to start his plan after Thanksgiving.

Y'all have a Happy Thanksgiving.

p.a. 11-25-2015 06:40 PM

I want to wish you guys a Happy Thanksgiving!!! Eat some turkey for me...I love it.

Wannabehealthy 11-25-2015 08:41 PM

Thanks, p.a. I always wanted to celebrate Thanksgiving with you Canadians, too. It's my favorite food holiday. Oops! I'm not supposed to think that way! LOL

Trish, I'm glad you're back. I don't agree with those people who post on the IE thread and I guess I never will. I think they are the ones who are wrong, not you. I posted in your defense a bit, and gave them some sites that said right out that IE is a tool for weight loss. A normal person doesn't eat if they are not hungry and stops eating when they are satisfied, and they eat what appeals to them. They don't call it IE, they just call it eating. IE is wrong to say that you cannot cut certain food groups, because diabetes is a disease that gets worse if you eat too many of the wrong kind of carbs. You ARE doing IE, but you are paying attention to what and how much you eat in order to be healthy. There is nothing wrong with that. It sounds like they are just making excuses so they can eat other things and calling it intuitive.

There is a lot of fat that I just don't like. I don't like a hamburger to be greasy. They are called "juicy" but it's just fat and I don't like the taste or feel of it. I blot my sausage for the same reason. I use butter because I like it. I have never used low fat products except for skim milk because whole milk tastes greasy to me. I just go according to what tastes good to me and greasy does not taste good. I never check the fat content of my food and I don't add extra fat.

I don't agree that our bodies burn the fat we eat. From what I have read on various LCHF sites, everything we eat is stored as glucose in our body. Our body burns glucose for energy. Any glucose not burned is stored as fat. When our stored glucose is gone then the body starts to burn our stored fat. People doing LCHF eat more fat because it keeps them satisfied longer, and that's because it is digested more slowly. I don't necessarily follow this because I don't know what's right. I know there are healthy fats that we need, but I am on the fence about sat fat. Is it good, or bad. I don't know. So I just eat what tastes good to me and hope that I'm doing the right thing.

I am not saying your doctor is wrong, and I am not trying to change your mind. I'm just saying that I feel differently about it.

For me, I am working on eating when I feel hunger and stopping when I feel satisfied. I eat what I want. By that I mean that if I want a bite of potato I eat it, just not a full serving. If I want toast with my eggs I use this sprouted grain wheat bread I've been buying, but I only do that a couple times a month, because bread of any kind spikes my blood sugar. I normally am not interested in sweets, but sometimes DH will have some sweet rolls and I might cut off a piece 1 inch square and eat it, never a whole roll. And I have been working on not eating after dinner, even my egg I used to eat. That's very hard because it's a habit I started, but that's what it is, a habit. If I am hungry, I will eat it, but I was eating it, hungry or not. I want to lose weight, but I'm not knocking myself out to starve myself. I'm still bouncing up and down the same 5 lbs, but I'm hoping if I clean up all these bad habits I will eventually start to lose.

There is a DairyQueen nearby that has such wonderful creamy ice cream. I decided at the beginning of the summer that I would stop one time and have a cone, and I did it. A few times we would stop and DH would get a cone, but I picked one day and had one and didn't have any more the rest of the summer. Now they closed for the winter. I'm very proud that I succeeded with that.

I don't feel that I am denying myself anything, but I am limiting quantities of some things. I can have a bite of anything, if I want it. but I am learning to not want it as often.

I'm sorry this is so long. I will shut up, now.

Have a great Thanksgiving!

pattygirl63 11-25-2015 10:58 PM

Thanks Carol Sue I know that the original IE book is about losing weight and putting foods in 2 categories. And I could get the book and quote, but I decided why bother. I'm not sure any of the original IEers post there any more because the new ones don't actually follow the original IE book. I want post there any more.

I'm not sure about good/bad fights. I just know that I actually don't like the greasy feeling in my mouth I get some times especially if I eat too much of some fats. I don't care for lowfat products either except for the crumble turkey sausage I get to cook in my scrambled eggs or omelets.

I really don't know if I'm burning fat or glucose, but I have finally come to believe that what actually caused my problem with the Metformin is too much fat. I honestly think the problems probably started back when I started eating more fats especially coconut oil. I like the whole milk, but I think the fat causes problems. I seem to have no problem with 1% and I actually like the taste of it. I can eat butter as long as I don't eat too much of it, but I cannot eat coconut oil at all. I've got a lot of it left so I use it as an eye cream to prevent wrinkles. LOL

So I'm thinking that I need to do more of a low fat low carb way of eating. I'll be doing that beginning Friday. Like I said I'm going to enjoy a serving of my dressing tomorrow. However, I'm not doing a turkey this year. I am going to roast a chicken and add dressing for me, potato salad for DH and DGS and we will have a regular salad and broccoli. No bread besides what is in the dressing. I'll have a thin slice of cheesecake (store bought). I will use this more like a CAD off balanced Reward Meal. Breakfast and anything I eat after the Thanksgivng meal will be low carb. As Weigh Down calls it, I will put the restart button at my next meal... dinner. I'm not eating snacks at night so I feel that is an improvement for me.

Wannabehealthy 11-26-2015 08:47 AM

Trish, I never read any books about IE, but learned about it from information on the internet. I just know that I wouldn't be working on changing the way I eat if I was satisfied with my body the way it is. I would have just continued to gorge myself into oblivion, which is how I got to 200 lbs. I want to lose weight without having to give up my favorite foods, and I think I have found the way to do it.

I am having turkey with stuffing inside the turkey. I know you southerners call it dressing, but we call it dressing if it's cooked outside the turkey. I have a portion of stuffing every year at Thanksgiving as my choice of carb, because I only have it once a year. I can have potatoes any day of the year, and sweets, you know I'm not really into sweets. I don't need to go overboard because the leftovers will be in my refrigerator and I can have more tomorrow. Leftover turkey rules!!!

Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

pattygirl63 11-26-2015 10:15 AM

Carol Sue I agree with you 100% and you understand IE completely. To say that it isn't about weight loss is ridiculous. I have the IE book here on the table beside. Tribole and Resch use it to help people learn to use the signals of their bodies. Also the one thing I liked about their book is that they taught their clients to eat the foods they liked.

I remember one client they had who was sent home told to experiment and see what foods she really liked to eat. She learned that there were only 10 foods that she really did enjoy. She was told that those were the only foods she had to eat. Thinking about that this morning, I realized that I need to do that with my low carbing. There are foods that I love that are low carb foods so why not just plan on eating those foods? That is what I am going to do.

The IE guideline I like is Eat what you truly want (for me from low carb foods) only when truly hungry and stop when satisfied. So I will do an IE/lowcarb way of eating.

I am doing more of a CAD day today. My breakfast is eggs, Canadian bacon, cheese and kale combo. I cook them separately eggs fried in Pam and then I mix it all together. My favorite lc breakfast. I'm not going to make the dressing. I had planned to make it the way my Mama always did. My Mama used to make a combo of cornbread/bread stuffing. She didn't put it in the turkey because she made a huge pan of it. My late DH family made just the cornbread dressing. I am afraid if I make it that I won't just eat one serving today. I'll be wanting it all day and even tomorrow. So I've pretty much decided to have the roasted chicken, a few bites of the potato salad cold (trying the Resistant Starch theory) and broccoli. I may start the meal with a regular salad to help cut down on how much potato salad I'll want to eat. And of course, I want a small helping of the cheesecake. Tonight I will have a chicken salad for supper. That way I will have a nice Thanksgiving dinner but I will also not go way off from the low carb plan.

One thing that I did read in the Weigh Down and the Thin Within info was that while they do recommend eating what you like, they also remind you that if you have health problems to follow the guidelines your health provider recommends. So I believe low carb for lowering bs is acceptable with IE. JMO

We have our plans so lets Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

pattygirl63 11-26-2015 09:30 PM

Eating was pretty good today. I did have my old problems pop up again. Not quite sure why. I didn't have any lowfat sour cream so had to use the full fat and of course I ate the slice of cheesecake. That with the butter that I put on the potato. Oh well. It doesn't happen everday so maybe my system just hasn't adjusted completely to the Metfomin.

I found another website called Low Carb for Diabetes. I don't know anything about it but I thought I would share the link below.

http://www.ditchthecarbs.com/2015/11...-for-diabetes/

Hope everyone had a good day.

Wannabehealthy 11-27-2015 09:48 AM

The problem pops up occasionally for me too, Trish, and I can't pin point a reason. For me I notice sometimes it happens after I eat salad or fresh vegetables so maybe it's caused by something that is sprayed on the vegetables. I got it after eating the local salad bar, two times in a row, but the third time I ate it I didn't get it. Makes no sense. I sometimes get it when I eat fried onions, but not raw onions. I try to include onions in my saute as they have a lot of nutrients and I like them.

I ended up eating some mashed potatoes and gravy but just a very small portion because I was saving some to send over the my BIL. In the evening we ate some more turkey with mushroom soup as gravy. DH had his over toast and I just had mine plain. I did not eat any dessert. You know dessert isn't my cup of tea. Since I ate both the stuffing and the potatoes I had to take 2mg glimiperide, and at bedtime my BG was 88, but went back up overnight to 160.

DH and I were talking about diabetes and he understands it better than he did before. Like a lot of people, he thought you were just not supposed to eat sugar, but I explain to him that things like white flour, rice, potatoes, pasta are turned into sugar quickly in the body and have the same effect as sugar. He was surprised, but now understands why I have to stay away from things like bread and pizza. Small portions of potatoes or pasta don't bother me as much as anything made with flour.

Did you eat the potato salad? One of the things I read about resistant starch is that the potato salad is supposed to be refrigerated for 24 hours before you eat it. I usually make mine the day of, and refrigerate it for a few hours until we are ready to eat. I don't know why they say 24 hours. It's not like it gets any colder. Cold is cold.

I'll check out the link.

pattygirl63 11-27-2015 12:01 PM

A quick flyby right now. Today is WI for me and even with all the going on this past week, I'm down 2 lbs actually 4 down from the day before. No fan fare as I'm still not back down to the 226 yet. And I didn't take any diuretic either. I'm trying to get off those because Gwenn Shamblin of Weigh Down says they will hurt the kidneys. Besides if I do low carb, I won't need a fluid pill.

After seeing that I had lost, I decided to do low carb and give up the bread. I had just a few slices left of the bread that I usually eat so I put it down the garbage disposal. I've been seeing some of the bread recipes for paleo diets, but they use syllium and with the way my system is now, I don't think I need to add that to my diet. I have a huge bottle of Kirkland brand of Metimucil that I bought back when I couldn't go and someday I will have to throw that stuff away because I'm thinking as long as I'm on Metformin, I don't think I will ever need it.

Carol Sue No I didn't make the potato salad. I ended up having baked potatoes and I made me a very small one.

You know I am having a difficult time getting my fbs under 150 right now. Ever since I took Januvia and it went up to 160s and above, it just doesn't come down. I can get in the 120s once in a while later in the day, but it sure didn't help me at all. The I understood that Januvia worked was that it would work only when you needed it and the pharmacist said that some people lost their appetite. It actually believe it worked the very opposite for me. I think it was on the link I shared last night that gave some signs of Insulin Resistance. I have a lot of those signs so I am going to research that more. It seems from what I can understand that maybe the only way to conquer IR is to give up high carb period. There was something I thought of eating this morning (can't remember what it was) and the words "skin tags" popped in my mind and I remember thinking "No I won't be eating that any more". I have some of those where you can't see them, but my daddy has a lot of them on his neck. I always wondered what caused them, but would have thought that something I ate could cause them. My late Hubby's Step-dad had gobs of them.

Well, I better close this. It was supposed to be a flyby, but I guess it wasn't. I want to listen to another Weigh Down video today before DH gets up.

Have a good day.

p.a. 11-28-2015 09:11 AM

Morning everyone,
Nice loss Trish!!
I was down as midge this week to..then last nite I went shopping with my dd and we stopped for supper. I had a cheeseburger and fries...ya they were so good! But, that's it till Christmas! I will be good.


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