I won't blame the mother. As the mother of boys sometimes there are things they just can't relate to from the mother and with the father in the house that is who they identify with, If the kid works at a fast food place, which frankly i would not allow, it wouldn't matter what was in the house.
Also the fact that he is waiting around for somone to help him is classic for this gereration of kids. they want it all and will wait for someone to give it to them because they dererve it, ot because they have worked hard for it.
The is a saying,
the difference between winners and losers is the winners are willing to do what losers won't.
Max may be young for the show, but he is not motivated to take care of himself, and until then, he won't be able to do this.
I think there have been attempts at helping the kids. Mike mentioned in an interview that he did Kids Weight Watchers but he dropped out. I don't think he places blame on anybody except himself. I know some viewers thought the father/son confrontation was lame, like they expected and wanted to see Mike really go off on Ron, which I thought was kind of sick and rather sad, like they wanted to see Mike really cut down Ron. But I thought what we actually saw was better and more in character with who Mike seems to be. He loves his dad, he didn't want to hurt him, he just wanted to understand. And he never said, why did you make Max and I this way, he just said why couldn't you change? I mean, I feel bad for Ron, too, in having been obese when he was a child, he just continued with what he knew.
I'm hoping we see Max having made some progress Tuesday night. I did get the feeling that, up to this point, whatever he's been doing has been more about not wanting to get left behind, or he's getting caught up in the whole Biggest Loser momentum (Bob's visit, the marathon, etc.). It just seemed weird to me that, in essence, things sort of froze for 5 months, like Max had no other option but to wait for Ron & Mike to come home. He seemed to be a bit annoyed with their attempts anyway. I mean, Max does need external help and guidance but he doesn't seem to be very motivated on his own. Maybe Mike and Ron aren't the answer to helping him in some aspects because they're too close. Mike and Max are reacting to each other's frustrations. Ron is closer to Max's ability level and maybe he can't push him further than he can push himself. I wonder if they're working with a trainer at all at that gym...it seemed like they weren't but that could have been edited out, which also is strange because we've seen other finalists throughout the seasons working with trainers before the finale. Why are they making it seem like Mike is the one who's got the responsibility of helping Max? They've really been laying things heavily on Mike. Bob pressured him to be Ron's savior and now he's got to help Max.
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I think it's just for dramatic effect that the show is making it look like only Mike can help Max.
It's a rather silly storyline if you ask me and I hate to see Max made the object of it.
If he really IS not self-motivated and just hanging around feeling sorry for himself and waiting for Mike to come and save him, he needs someone to intervene and get his thinking in a different direction.
Hard to say. Viewers are just watching a play here. They don't really know these people, all they know about them are their weights.
I find myself wondering if they've got Max "on hold" for another Biggest Loser season when he's of age. A lot of America has taken to HIM more than Mike and Ron, and they may be setting him up for the next season, if he'll be of age. Or like someone said on here earlier....a BL Teens-type season.
I definitely got the impression that Max just isn't quite ready yet. If he was he would have been doing something at home to show his dad and brother how well he could do.
I agree. Max has had a couple of months to do something about his weight. I'm sure he watched the program weekly. Once he stops feeling sorry for himself he will succeed.
I still worry a LOT about Max. I think no matter HOW much Mike, Ron and the mom help them when this is over it may end up with him discouraged. I mean...a normal person with a normal life, like Max has, isn't able to work out eight hours a day and live in an environment without access to bad foods. I mean...Max can't even go to school and be safe from coke machines and snack foods (in most schools at least). Mike and Ron were in a strictly controlled environment with trainers and doctors and lost a TON of weight in a relatively short time. I hope hope I'm wrong, but I worry that Max will lose a normal amount of weight per week, compare that to the massive amounts Mike and Ron lost in the same amount of time, and figure HE can't do it without "the Ranch." In this case, I think the BL is totally setting this kid up with inflated expectations.
I also think Max is in the mindset that he can't "do it" without the ranch. A lot of the contestants seem to feel that way and truthfully, it just isn't so, for an adult or child. I like this show and think it is as well handled as it is possible to do and is helpful to viewers because it brings awareness to the various problems of obesity and weight management but despite the challenges in real life, it is my opinion, that ANYONE (with some medical exceptions) can lose weight and more or less keep it off (with some inevitable ups and downs) by rational means and without any help at all (although it's preferred to be under medical supervision).
A lot of people (esp. me) get into the feeling sorry for themselves place that Max seems to be in right now and in that place one DOESN'T believe achieving a sane weight is possible and yea, I'd worry about Max also.
That said, I also think the show is planning to get him on there.
It's really hard to say. We don't actually know anything about Max, what kind of kid he is, what his potential is. BL fans just keep talking online about this boy and hopefully this isn't harming him.
Max is holding on to his weight for his chance at the ranch. Why give up the weight now and ruin his chance at being TBL? He doesn't want to show up there weighing any less than his max (ha ha) weight. Sad, but probably true.
Max is holding on to his weight for his chance at the ranch. Why give up the weight now and ruin his chance at being TBL? He doesn't want to show up there weighing any less than his max (ha ha) weight. Sad, but probably true.
I tend to agree...I think he's holding out for TBL, and I think TBL WANTS him on there as well...
I tend to agree...I think he's holding out for TBL, and I think TBL WANTS him on there as well...
IMHO, I think that is stupid...why wait...he should do it NOW....or better yet, he should have done it while watching the show....that's what got me started. He wasted alot of time!!! On another note, Janga, I just saw your starting weight and current weight.,...THAT'S AWESOME!!!
I think we need to give this poor kid some slack. He never knew anything different and he, unlike his dad and brother, did NOT sign up to be in the spotlight.
