I wasn't sure where to post the discussions of Dr. Phil's weekly shows on the Ultimate Weight Loss Solution but I figured it would be good to keep this in the same area as the book club since it is related
I watched Monday's show - brutal! And the big fight over the junk food clearout It was like watching Big Brother with dieters! A lot of interesting things were said and came into play.
I think I would have opted for the take out meal to be my first good meal instead of my last bad meal knowing the Doc was watching. I would have ditched the junk food but not before a discussion with everyone first to see what the consensus was and taken a vote. It should have been everyone's decision.
I felt so bad for Terri during that phone call to her fiance!
I unfortunately did not tape Tuesday's show
Can anyone fill me in on who Dr. Phil picked as the final 8 and why?
He didn't pick the 8 yet, if he will at all. He interviewed only 6, individually, of the 13. Next Monday, the others get interviewed. He wanted to see where their hearts and heads are.
You say, "I think I would have opted for the take out meal to be my first good meal instead of my last bad meal knowing the Doc was watching." What if nobody was watching? I think Dr. Phil was testing their accountability to themselves and not an external force.
The junk food pantry was set up for a reason. No one should have opted to remove any of the junkfood until they got to the part of changing their environment. Fred's birthday was celebraTted with his all-time favorite food - birthday cake, and it sure looked yummy! The point wasn't about tempting him or the others with a cake, but to show it's OK to have a treat and not deprive yourself, but not every day, and not a whole cake. Dr. Phil, IMO is using certain triggers to make them see what they will have to deal with in their real lives, and that they have choices. The choices they make will tell the story.
One thing for sure is they all have emotional and self-esteem issues!
I still would have opted for the first "good" meal even if no one is watching - just because when I decide to do something I throw myself into but 3 months later is another story
I agree with you about the junk food being there for a reason but if they wanted to throw it out then that would be their decision, unfortunately that was not everyone's decision and everyone should have been consulted- the few who trashed the food change the other participants environment without their permission.
Personally I would have left it just to prove to myself that I could walk by it and ignore it and again, as you pointed out, it would not only be a challenge that you would have to face at home but also one you would have to face for the rest of your life every time you went out to the grocery store, out to eat, or to someone else's home where you can't control the environment.
Re: people's emotional issues- interesting how some of the people have low self-esteem yet manage to come across as agressive and pushy ..hmmm... but that may also be a self-defense mechanism - the psychology involved is quite fascinating really.
Last edited by mauvaisroux; 09-24-2003 at 07:01 PM.
I thought that he was only going to do the weight-loss shows on Mondays! Is this going to be a regular scheduled thing for Monday and Tuesday. I've really not had much time in my life to watch him on a regular basis and still can't, but I would like to tape the weight loss shows.
I did too until I watched Monday and he said "tomorrow . . ."
Although I'm a stay at homer, Dr. Phil is on at 2PM, right in the middle of the day. It's really annoying to have to stop what I'm doing, or try to be home at that time. I even wrote a letter last year to our NBC affiliate complaining about the time slot. If they switched him with Montel Williams at 3PM, I'd be much happier and be able to manage my time. I don't know how to program the VCR.
Speaking of environment, here's one that really bugs me. Our grocery store is set up so that as you walk in the door, the bakery is on the right and the deli on the left. You have to walk through both to get to the produce dept., and for me it's torture because of the smells. I know they do it on purpose. I just lift my head, don't look and walk fast. Also, several years ago, someone pointed out to me that the main staples and what you need most are on the outside perimeter aisles. Stay out of the food aisles. I've gone from an impulse buyer with an unlimited budget to a list taker, and buy only what's on the list. I don't even want to think about the $1,000.00's of dollars I've thrown away in uneaten food, only because it looked good in the store.
Since we've been eating healthy, I spend about $65.00 a week tops, for 2 of us compared to $120.-130 a week. Don't ever fall for the fallacy that eating healthy is expensive. What the trick is, because you aren't buying prepackaged easy to prepare foods and junk, you do have to spend more time planning and preparing. I used to absolutely hate to cook. Now I enjoy it because I know it's going keep us on track. Because I control the food and the kitchen and what goes on the table, DH has lost right along with me. Double joy!
But I still have a hard time getting passed the bakery section!
I hear ya dipthong! I am not a bread eater, don't care much for sandwiches or toast but as soon as I smell fresh baked crusty bread I cave! In the past I have eaten most of a French baguette by myself with butter while watching t.v.
I love to cook and enjoy fresh ingredients- everything tastes better when it is homemade and not processed. I have to admit though I do still sometimes cheat with storebought spaghetti sauce for quick mid week meals but I try to make sure they are low-sugar and with few ingredients and no chemicals.
I certainly don't eat out as much as I used to and always brown bag my lunch so I am saving calories and $$$
I hear ya! We used to eat out several times a week, and usually the all u can scarf American Chinese buffets. And then come home and took a nap! When I was working, we rarely ate at home, and if we did it was fast food or take out. I was too beat and it was just too convenient. Plus we had this ridiculous amount of food in the house, and stored in the basement.
Looking back at it, I think much of it was because of my childhood. My mother did the grocery shopping on Saturday, by Sunday night all the goodies were gone, and by Friday dinner we were eating eggs or pancakes until she got to the store again on Saturday. My best friend's house was just the opposite. Anything you had a taste for or wanted was always there. THAT made an impression on me, and ever since I became queen of the household, you could walk in anytime and have what you desired. But! I was also a struggling single mother for 11 years before I met my current DH, and we lived food-wise the same way my mother raised us (who was also single but a widow.) That was one of many "breakthrough moments" for me - how I interpreted the meaning of food, and it's importance. I didn't see it as fuel for the body, but rather instant self-gratification that should be available any time on a whim.
I consider myself lucky because I definitely made some startling self-revelations after reading SELF MATTERS. I said somewhere today on the board that the timing for Dr. Phil to release this book couldn't have been more perfect for me. It is what I needed to get even deeper into my soul.
I hear you too, dipthong. Especially in the area of grocery stores and the bakery section. I think that is why I learned to talk to myself. One time my blood sugar was 357 and I was being really strick with my diet to get it down. I went into the grocery store just to get a gallon of milk. Right in front of the milk, they had a big display of cookies. That was so tempting to me. I wanted to grab a package and start eating. I realize that the stores do that on purpose and I had the reaction they wanted. But, I didn't buy them. I knew I couldn't. When I would pass the bakery section, I'd tell myself that it smells and looks better than it tastes. And it does. Also, I would analyze what is in it. I would see the donuts and think "they are only flour, sugar and grease, why do I want that?" I don't!
I think this forum on Dr. Phil's book is great.
Ouchy, That would be absolute **** for me too. Any chance of getting him to stop, or do it elsewhere, in order to rally him into your support system?
Funny how our loved ones can be unwitting (or are they?) saboteurs? There was a discussion started this morning at another forum I frequent here, called Ladies Who Lift. Here's what I had to say - and again, you are not alone:
(what’s with family and saboteurs?) LOL. I had a good one yesterday from DH. He has been at a seminar this week that lunch was catered. Each day I asked him what he had and how much. He admitted he ate things he should have passed on and alot of it. Last night he comes home with tales of fettucini alfredo, while I just sat there and smiled. I knew he would see a weight gain, since he weighs every morning too. But the killer was when he got up from the table, he went to his briefcase and whipped out a King-Size Milky Way and put it in front of me. I jumped up and walked away, telling him to take it with him. I didn't desire it, but was angry that just because he messed up, he wanted me to join him. My satisfaction came this morning when he weighed. He had broken 199 last week and was down to 198 Monday morning. This morning he was 202. I was nice and polite. Just said I hoped he had learned a lesson that if we go back to the old way of eating, what will happen. Also said if I had broken 199 and gained, that it would break my heart. The personal satisfaction came knowing the Milky Way was some where here in the house, and I didn't cave.
Originally posted by diphthong Funny how our loved ones can be unwitting (or are they?) saboteurs? There was a discussion started this morning at another forum I frequent here, called Ladies Who Lift. Here's what I had to say - and again, you are not alone:
(what’s with family and saboteurs?)
dip
Dip, I am so proud of you! First for turning down the candy bar, and second, for recognizing his "Cheat with me" mentality. I'll bet you Dr. Phil will discuss how others can be saboteurs to our desires, too; all sabotage doesn't come from within. However, we do make the choices. (I admit, some are harder than others!) I think about 2 months ago, maybe 6 weeks, Dr. Phil had a program on where he was discussing people who had lost weight and their family was complaining, like they were grouchy, or no longer any fun. Some of them, I could see their point, but some of them needed to lose weight themselves, and probably jealous of their loved one's accomplishments!
Tuesday's show was a real therapy session! There were times I was crying. But I think Dr. Phil should make some things clearer to his viewers. First of all, I believe he did say (or it may have been on his website) that the weight shows were going to be on Mondays after the first week, then all of a sudden he gives us another one on Tuesday during the second week! Second of all, he said he was going to pick 12 challengers and he picks 13! Well, I have to admit I was glad he did, but then he says only 8 can stay! What's up with that! I think Dr. Phil to get real with his audience! Just my opinion.
Dip,
What a wonderful husband and how strong you are! You know I have a male friend, we live close and being that we are both single, we will eat together most nights. One of our fav nights is sushi night, being that I am low carbing, I can't do sushi as often (shouldn't do it at all--but hey that wouldn't be real).
Painfully, I asked him if we could eat sushi less and that every night that we didn't eat sushi, I would cook something yummy for him. I thought that he would be upset, he was a bit disappointed, but now we do sushi every other week together, and he runs by and gets sushi for lunch to satisfy his cravings.
Maybe you can ask him to cut back on how much he bakes, at least during this time, to assist you during this important time.
We are always here for you....your so strong, I don't think that I could be that strong...I love the bread thing.....
Dr. Phil's shows re: Weight Loss Solution
It was like watching Big Brother with dieters! A lot of interesting things were said and came into play.
but that may also be a self-defense mechanism - the psychology involved is quite fascinating really.
