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Harro Everyone!
That Tat is hot young lady! I love it. Just another quick one (aren't they all). Ani, I'm definitely a carnivore, but haven't been able to afford meat. I just like lentils I guess :) Finished my first week at work. There's a really strong coffee culture, so I'm going to switch to skinny milk and drop a sugar. I'll attempt coffee + no sugar a week later. It turns out that I walk 15-17kms a week, just walking to and from work (and the post office). That's a **** of a lot more than I used to, so I think its a good start. Running off again. Its 21st Birthday season, running around like a headless chook. loves xx |
Julia that tatt is amazing. he sure is a great artist huh?.. wow ... and you look amazing too.. :)
Ani that means half of australia are over weight then.. omg that is alot more then you would think .. Kel i hope you and jem feel better soon . Ive had an interesting couple of day thursday I went for me swim again while Leah was at kindy 2 hours of laps.. but all the fun started that afternoon.. it was a reall sh*t i tell ya.. Cameron slipped on the concreete and slammed the car door shut on three of Leahs fingers .. 3 hours at the hospital later i foundout it has a small crack in it.. which was no suprise since wehn the door was opened it was completly the wrong shape.. the tip was pointing backwards on her index finger at the joint.. the crack is just above the joint.. they say it must have dislocated at the joint and cracked going back in.. ouch.. Cameron felt awful he cryed longer then she did and when the police brought an old drunk into the waiting room.. Cameron started bawling "there going to arrest me " he wailed lol.. So we left the hospital at 730.. the kids are hungry and we had to get John from the airport at nine so no time to cook.. i grabbed some noodles from the sushi shop in the way home.. we quickly ate and got changed and went out.. Driving to the airport both me and Leah developed a rash... omg.. what a day .. by the ime we got to the airport Leah was having an asthma attack.. and her rash was red hot.. she was starting to swell up.. OMG just once can i not f*ckign cook.... NO!! lol / Luckily i had her allergy meds in the car.. i gave her th phenergen and ventolin and we went in to pick up Daddy .. She was miserable.. the phenergen makes her feel like crap.. i loked like crap Cameron was still upset and the stupid plane came in 25 minutes late.. Leah spent the whole 25 minutes crying.. and laying on my lap.. her face hurt her hand hurt her chest her.. and her breathing was still not fabulous .. When the plane came in it appered everyone had got off.. and No John.. Leah lost it.. she was crying with the shaky haevy breathign really really upset.. !0 minutes after everyone had got off this poor ols gentle men that could hardly walk got ioff the plane and the 20 poeple that were stuck behind him got off .. along with John.. We all looked a mess Cameron was upset Leah was crying and i was covered in a bright red rash all over my face.. lol And then he saw her hand.. .. lmao.. yay.. of course its my fault dont you know it.. I thought **** now we are going to argue all the way home.. but i think John sensed i was past it.. and if he started i may just kill him.. lol Friday i took leah to playgroup while John slept most the day away .. and yesterday we had agreat day out took the kids to the railway museum.. then to semiphore.. and they went on a beautiful old carousel.. i wish i had taken my camera becuase Leah loved it she smiled and laughed the whole way around.. its was pure magic.. she was so happy it put a tear in my eye, just beautiful.. she told her horsey she'd see him tommorrow as we left lol.. as we left there a light plane flew over head and threw out 2 rolsl of toilet paper.. omg what a scream.. it was so funny.. Cameron made fart noses and toilet Jokes all the way to the park.. (we saw a nice park on the way to the port ) The kids had a play and we went for a walk around the lake.. at the back of the lak is a lookout we went up there and discovered some real horses on the other side .. one camer over for the kids to pet it .. so they were very happy. On the way back to the car Leah said her legs didnt work anymore lol . We had planned to go to harbour town on the way home becuase John wanted some runners but we didnt and Leah fell asleep as we passed it .. great day great fun.. and leah is manging very well depite heer finger .... anyway gotta run.. lunch at the inlaws today.. have a great day girls |
The fact that I am posting might mean something significant...and it might not.
I'm over 200lb. I eat sh*t!! I eat like a pig! I drink no water. I hate that I am like this!! There, that was the first step...I just wonder in which direction it has led me. |
exactly how many kilos is 200 pounds???
so watcha going to do about it?? amy - your life is so so so full of dramas everytime that man of yours comes home!!! |
Kel, about the meat thing? Being on my own now with the kids I have had to be a bit more careful with the money. At woolies you can get beef meatballs (16 of them) for $4.99. That would do you several meals. Meatballs with some pasta sauce on a bed of spaghetti. I worked it out to be $2.00 a meal for each of us. woohoo. Also now at woolies you can get sizzle steak. Again just $4.99. It is really really thin, but perfect for flipping quickly in the pan and having it with yr veges. Not sure how may pieces are in the pack, about 8 I think. It's eal nice to do a stirfry with also and a thin steak sandwich. Now a chicken breast can be cut in half to do you 2 meals. Or alternatively buy a pack of NOT CRUMBED chicken breast schnitzels. A pack is around $6-$7 and has about 5 pieces. You don't have to have yr meat as the pain part of yr meal, just a side is great. I reality we are supposed to only have 100gm at the most a serve anyhow.
Now Ani about the 1 in 4 Aussies obese and overweight..... In 2003 60% of Australians were overweight. Thats horrible huh? Yet our clothing size standards are getting smaller. |
Hi Lindor :)
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yeah what is with all the clothing sizes??? if we are all getting bigger why cant we buy clothes in normal shops???
why why why? i hate this even more coz everyone in my neighbourhood is asian and they are gorgous teeny tiny. |
Lindor!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've missed you! I was thinking about you just this morning, actually. |
Ok, so now for the slightly-less-excited post.
Lindor, hon, I've just done the exact same thing. I've been back in the forums for only a few pages. And I'm 100kg, eat **** because I've been unemployed, and was generally treating myself like crap. So don't feel alone. Maybe we could have a good proper chat and work something out together? *mwah* really glad to see you. |
Great to see you back Lindor. Sorry to hear you sounding down though :hug:
I'm glad you came back here anyway, I hope that we can help you get back on track. Amy it sounds like you have had a terrible run! I hope things are nice and calm now. I hear you all about meat being expensive. Tis true that Vonni says though about a real serving size of meat being small. On weight watchers, one serving of meat is 120g and that = 3 points. I'm trying to rely on veggies to fill me up and have meat purely as my source of protein. I'm still feeling a bit sick and I neglected my food diary for the last few days of last week but I did manage to go to the gym yesterday and I'm glad that I made the effort even though I didn't feel like it. Goals for today: 1) Keep my food diary. 2) Stick to my points. 3) Go to the gym tonight. :twirly: |
LINDOR! I've been wondering about how you're going and what you're up to. I was really happy to see you posting here :D. Are you in the right head space to lose any weight?
I have had four shocking days. I reckon I broke every single rule, ate all wrong things, and drank NO water. What's that about? This week I am working 12.30pm - 9pm all week. Not the best of times for being sensible with food, but the challenge is for me to get back on track. Today's goals are to eat no more than 1600 calories and drink 2 litres of water. Hopefully I can get close… |
Sorry to hear you had a few days off track Ani. But you know what? That's life and you'll be back on the right path soon enough.
I had a great day yesterday, stuck to my points, recorded everything I ate and had a great session at the gym. I even managed to do my usual Monday aerobics class as well as my weights despite the fact I was feeling sick and feeble. Today I will aim to stick to my points and to go to the gym and do a 40 minute walk or something similar. :twirly: |
woohoo everyone back except barb...
hellllooooo barb???? hello hello?? how is it possible that yesterday i weighed in at 93.3??? how can i have put on 3kg last week without relising it? binge eating sucks but honestly lets say the scales are broken i am recovering from flu i cleaned out pantry when i get some money i am going to keep it nice with good foods same with fridge am actually eating well but obviously too much more annoying stuff - i am now 8 days late for TOM.... but have done 4 preg tests all negative! and i am holding off until i know for sure if i am preg or not before getting back on my medication - which i unfortunately now think i need i threw 2 bins and several other items at benji last night and screamed the house down - for no reason.... gotta go get some clothes on my daughter have a great day everyone water water water i am obsessed with juice at the moment - could that be my 3kg?? |
Kel juice is FULL of sugar so that could account for some of your weight gain. Also, if you're not watching your portions the weight can sneak up quickly.
Can I make a suggestion? Go to the doctor! They may be able to tell you for sure if you're pregnant or not. Believe me when I say it's a VERY BAD idea not to be taking your medication! :twirly: |
i am going to the doc on thursday but thinking about going today
but they wont be able to tell for a little while if i am preg or not i dont think if the preg tests arenot showing anything up - my brother said to wait another 2 weeks!!! |
blood test will show it now i think.. kel.. get your butt to the quack.. .. lol
it might be why you are moody too.. that or you are about to get one **** on a monthly.. lol .. im doing good this week .. my scales are not my friends at the moment.. i can get on them and off them and they will show me 2 different weights.. with 2kg differences.. on the wii im 112.. on my scales im 118 or 120.. or maybe even 119 .. lol .. so mine are gonna be thrown out the window very soon.. unfortunalty the wii is my inlaws and not mine.. grrr. so i went and weighed myself on a pair in the chemist today and they show me as 114... i know at the end of thew day it doesnt matter either way im over weight but.. my scales have been going from 116 - 118 for weeks now.. and on the wii. i have lost 1.8 kilos.. in the last 2 weeks on my scales i have gained 2-4 kg.... its not right.. and its pissing me off big time.. i have beeen 100% op.. so I want to buy new scales.. but i want my hubby to buy me a wii ( for my birthday.. so.. if i buy new scales i might not get the wii.. lol.. so for now ill wait and see .. anyway gotta run.. Hubby is dropping the kids off at his parents house and taking me to watch The dark knight in greater union.. we want to do the gold class and get dinner while we watch.. :) should be great fun. Hopefully not to busy since the movie has been out for weeks now |
did you just love the dark knight?? benji did - i took him for his birthday
went to doc - as my brother thought it is too early to do blood test especially coz of breastfeeding and stress - my period could actually go away again!!!!! not fair!!!! |
What did the doctor say about your taking your medication? Are you back on it?
Hope you start to feel better soon anyway. Sorry to hear of your scales dramas Amy! Sounds like you definitely need to get something sorted soon. I haven't been able to weigh in this week as the scales at the gym are out being repaired. I'm looking at it as a bit of a reprieve and a chance to catch up. Good day yesterday, stuck to my points and did a 40 minute walk including 20 minutes with incline. I've discovered an amazing new treat in weight watchers ice cream sundaes, oh my goodness they are divine! That's my pudding every night at the moment :T Goals for today: 1) Stick to my points 2) Do my weights and some cardio at the gym tonight. Have a great day everyone. :twirly: |
Kylie! I wish I was as excited to be back here as you were to see me back here! I am trying, really! Good to see you back here to and you seem so much happier too.
Am I in the right head space to lose weight? No!! But I am thinking very negatively just now...and I need to turn that around. The last 12 weeks or so has been an endless binge for me! Comfort eating to the max! I reckon I gained all my weight from that! I wasn't in the best of places before that, but that was when I discovered a lump on my breast! From there, it took me three weeks to find the nerve to see a doctor about it, two weeks to get an appointment to see a doctor, five weeks to eventually get an ultrasound and FNA done, another week to get another appointment to get the results of that FNA. At that appointment I got a verbal (as the results weren't in yet) 'at first glance' result of a benign fibroadenoma and advised to return for follow up in a month. Just prior to that follow up appointment I discovered a brown discharge from the nipple and when I explained that to the doctor his face dropped and he said 'now that is something to worry about'. And, no official results for the FNA could be found??? He has referred me to a breast clinic in Perth...next available appointment is early November!!!! I guess it is kinda natural in this situation (maybe??) to feel a lump and to think cancer and to think death. If I am going to die...what is the point of weight-loss? Like I said....I gotta turn the negative thinking around. So far the results I have received say it is benign...why can't I accept that??? Anyway...sitting here during my lunch break writing this has left me no time to eat! Not good I know...but hey, it's not a binge! :lol: Sorry for the self-indulgent post. |
if you are going to die you want to look good in the coffin!
and also you are not going to die. but very natural to be worried about all those things - how scary and WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP that first appointment is november that is forever away so actually that is a good thing - as if you had something and they thought you were going to die there is NO WAY they would make you wait until november i cant breath in my fat girl skirt this is not cool and ani before you ask what i am doing - NOTHING heheheheh i dont have a plan i dont know what to do - i did though start drinking more water (there was no orange juice left) i keep waiting for some reason to start a proper lifestyle change and keep blaming my messy study ho hum |
I'm here Kel. I always have been.
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Hi Barb.
Lindor heres hugs :hug: hope you are ok mentally as well. Know we are here supporting you throughout even if we not in body but in net waves :) Amy have you done the Wii fit? My friend got it 3 weeks ago and loves it. She didn't particuly get it for weigh loss though - just cause. And she's addicted. Today (I hadnt seen her in a week) she walked towards me and i said WOW. SHe has curves that we didnt see before. I think I might be gonna gettin one :D Kel I here ya. I put on my fav undies today and they are tight. NOT HAPPY. My scales just keep going up grrrr. Ok, gotta go pee now and my son will have taken over the comp by the time i flush so............. |
so barb??
how is it going??? doc gave me referral for blood test for pregnancy but still may not show up for a week or so depending on what my cycle is doing i may not have ovulated when one normally would coz of breastfeeding and my friend stress so funny vonni about your son- i hope jemima doesnt do that to me... but she is getting good with the mouse and keyboard! |
Oh Lindor, I'm so sorry to hear that you're going through such a tough time. Finding a lump in your breast must have been terrifying but I agree with Kel that surely if they thought it was something really bad then they'd rush you through the system and not make you wait until November. Try to keep positive mate and please keep popping in here to chat with us so that we can offer our support. Remember that we're here for everything, not just weight loss support. :hug:
I had another good day yesterday, did my weights at the gym followed by a 20 minute walk. I did try to run but I've still got a bit of a cold and my lungs just couldn't cope with that. I was slightly over my points but not too drastically so I'm happy with myself regardless. Goals for today are 1) Stick to my points and 2) Go for a walk after work if the weather holds out. :twirly: |
Lindor is there any possibility of you getting a second opinion? I know it might mean a little bit of travel, but waiting until November isn't the best decision for your health.
I would be worried too if the doctor told me 'now that is something to worry about', and I would be reluctant to leave my fate in someone else's hands. I know how frustratingly slow the health system is over here, but I would be on the phone demanding a quicker appointment. Do you really have to wait and come to Perth? Surely there are some decent facilities closer to you! The worst thing, in situations like this, is the waiting - and the things you conjure up in your imagination while time seems to drag. Matey you need to KNOW what's going on for your peace of mind. IF it is breast cancer, early detection is really important - treatment and results are very positive, and have advanced significantly. BUT… You need to eat for your health, and that includes heaps of Vitamin B. Do some research on the net and you'll find loads of good information about eating for boosting your immune system, and the kinds of vitamins, anti-oxidants etc that will help you. And drink heaps if water and cranberry juice - anything that will flush, stimulate your immunity and better health. And find a way to manage your stress. Seriously! You're already under a heap of stress from not knowing, and feeling frightened. Get a yoga DVD or download something on YouTube, meditate, make it a project. I feel very strongly that you need to take back some of your power and not leave it in the hands of strangers and general practitioners. It will be really good for your emotional health if you can do some things that will help you feel that you're doing something proactive. I'm sorry if this sounds like a lecture, but you're my friend and I hate to see you sounding so helpless and scared. Why should you care about losing weight now? Because you're worth it - that's why! Even if you have something sinister going on in your body, you will be in a much better place to fight it if you eat more healthy food. And you might begin to believe you're worth taking care of too. And tell me this: if I came to you and said I had something wrong - a lump in my breast - would you tell me to lock myself away, stuff myself with food and ignore my health? What would you say to me if it were me? And why don't you deserve as much care and attention for YOU? AND… :hug: Barb I am so glad you popped up in here. Stay with us - Lindor needs us - and aside from that, this place is better for your gentle spirit. KEL - :frypan:. That coffin comment was disgraceful. Lindor is worried about her health, and that was not only unhelpful but it's the kind of comment that can make people walk away from this forum. And the last thing Lindor needs right now is to be more isolated. |
Friggety fook! I just wrote a huge long, lovely post and the gremlins swallowed it. Feck!
Lindor, love ya, keep checking in so we can give you a boost. And listen to Chief Ani - she's a wise, wise woman! Call and ask to be on the cancellation list, and cry to the receptionist and ask for a sooner appointment. I bet they can see you sooner. hugs. |
Great advise from Ani as per usual :) Best to fight and get this seen to asap Lindor. Take care :)
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in case everyone else was disgusted at my coffin comment too i am sorry i should have thought before saying it - i forget sometimes that things i say can offend and have sent lindor a pm to apologise (honestly my last intention is to isolate, offend or scare people from saying their true feelings)
but saying that - if we all were allowed to sit there and think oh well i am going to die so there is no use losing weight then where would we be? |
lmao @ Gens Gremlins. They munch when it's least wanted don't they?
heheee Chief Ani............ HOW!!!!!! |
Cancellations lists are great. But then as it's a distance you would have to be able to drop everything and fly out at a moments notice, but then with the internet bookings sites last minute flights would be no prob. Jus NOW make sure you have given work prior warning you may drop and run. And yr pets organised etc....
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Lindor im sorry about your health worries.. Ani is 100% on looking after yourself.. while you wait.. i would be on the phone crying too .. try anything to get in sooner..
Im glad your first scan is not troublesome.. that is a good start.... Do your best to think of the good scan and not worry too much if you can.. I do agree however if it was somehting nasty you would been in as quick as can be.. My mum had breast cancer when i was a teen she had the lump for 4 years b4 she went to the doctor.. and when the lump was massive ( sticking out the side of her boob ) she finally went to the doctors about it .. it was cancer the doctor she saw first told her to find another doctor becuase he didnt work on lost causes.. ( *** hole) so she saw his partner the next day .. that very same day the booked her in for surgery .. she came home shaved her legs and went to the hospital.. she had a masecotmomy and they removed the lymphy nodes under her arm.. half of which were infected.. had 6 months of chemo... and she is still here .. 15 years later.. no problems. I dont know if telling you about my mum helps at all.. but she had it 4 years before she went to a doctor.. so even if it is that november might be ok.. Well personally though i would be a mess if i had to wait that long.. could you ring around another clinic?? .. sorry and a great big hug for you :hug::hug::hug: rememeber we are here for you.. :grouphug: |
Crap!! Now I wish I hadn't said anything.
Thanx for all the kind words and all the advice. The appointment date only came through yesterday, I guess I just wanted to vent my frustrations. I have done a lot of Googling about this...first with the lump, then the nipple discharge. Getting breast cancer at my age is not very common...most common causes of breast lumps at my age are Fibroadenomas, which is what my initial results are. And it is not unusual to experience discharge associated with them. The brown discharge could also be a result of the FNA - post-procedural - old blood. But, then you think of the likes of Belinda Emmett, she was born in the same year I was!! And Jane McGrath...her battle started in her early 30's! Anyway, gotta stop now! Only because I gotta get back to work! Again...thank you all for the kind replies! And that 'thanx' extends to you too Kel! I've come to know your personality over the time here. |
hey thats why we are here .. lol.. dont feel bad for saying anything.. :)
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hey hey
i have no idea when it comes to medical stuff but i know staying positive and being healthy ALWAYS helps i am really stacking on the weight at the moment like i am waiting for something to change or end then i am planning to start a freash ... but what?? amy - when do you get your exercise time in when leah is home? |
Lindor it's great to hear you sounding a bit more positive :hug: I'm sure you'll get through this mate.
Kel, you say you're waiting for something to change but you've got to know that nothing will change unless you make it change. You're not going to lose weight if you don't make any effort. It took me a long time to figure that out but when I finally did it was quite a revelation! I had a very bad but pleasurable day yesterday in terms of my food. I was good all day but last night I didn't have dinner and instead, I cracked open a bottle of wine and over the course of the evening drank the whole thing and nibbled on pate and cheese with crackers, pickles, ham and a couple of weight watchers ice creams. Didn't go walking either. Oops! :o However, one day off track is okay and I'm back on form today. Went to the gym this morning and did 25 minutes walking followed by half an hour of weights circuit with my trainer. Goal for the rest of the day is to stick to my points! :twirly: |
Weighed in this morning, and I lost 0.3kg this week - and that means I have now lost THIRTY kilos :carrot:.
Time for me to get to work on my new challenge - to lose the next 5kg. I don't know how long it will take but I am going to set myself a 'Spring Challenge' and try to lose at least 3kg by the end of November. This week's goal is to try and get to 74.7kg by next Friday's weigh-in. I am working 6.30am - 2.30pm next week, so meal routines will be completely opposite this weeks but I am feeling good about my motivation at the moment. Lindor we're all here if you need some support, or just want us to listen. Kel you don't want to keep gaining weight do you? I worry about you, because I would love to see you back under 90kg and feeling happier about everything. I am so happy it is Friday. My body HURTS from all the lifting and heavy work I have done this week, especially my shoulders and wrists. This weekend I am going to make a vegetable garden and a shadehouse. I'm sick of paying $6/kg for tomatoes, so I'm going to grow a few things of my own. Honestly! I called in at the supermarket the other day and apples were $6.99/kg, while a big packet of chips was $1.99. That really sh!ts me because it's difficult to eat healthy when you have a budget of $70/week for food. Grrr!!! |
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ani - you rock - wow - what an exciting day!!! and how amazing are you straight away working out your next goal and not stopping!! i am getting a vege patch on the weekend too! i have friends coming over to help as they have tools to put sleepers and what not together - goodluck with yours |
Firstly I have to say a huge CONGRATULATIONS to Ani. You truly are an inspiration. :encore:
You ladies are so lucky to have veggie patches! I'd love to have a veggie garden but in my tiny flat that's not possible unfortunately. Ani I totally agree with you on the price of fresh food being ridiculous when compared with the cost of junk. I'm very broke at the moment, I have $20 to last me until Tuesday and I need to buy my lunch today (Subway sub of the day $3.90!) and buy some meat and veggies to see me through the next 3 days. Roll on payday. :twirly: |
oh good i am not the only one that is broke!
i am cleaning the study and just found a pile of bills due yesterday and some due monday that add up to way more than i have in my account ho hum |
Ani way to go.. that is an amazing effort :)
Julia sounds like a good night to me :) lol Kel working out.. well i have an elliptical at home.. i do alot of walking and now leah is in preentry for kindy i go and swim for 2 hours every thursday... im considering joining thr aqua aerobics but am not sure if that will burn more calories then my lap swimming ... ok here is my woekouts for the last 3 weeks.. im bored with the elliptical but have been enjoying the sun shine instaed.. On long walks Leah is in the pusher on short ones she walks.. we walk to and from school morning and afternoon on a nice day.. Leah can cope with that 1.5 kms to school.. a play in the playgroundsa then a 1.5 k home again.. Sunday 10 August ; 0 ( had gastro) Monday 11 August ; 0 ( feeling tired but could a got off my butt ) Tuesday 12 August ; 60 minutes walking Wednesday 13 August ; 60 minutes walking 10 minutes elliptical (kids.. grr lol) Thursday 14 August ; 120 minutes swimming Friday 15 August ; 180 minutes walking and 100 step ups Saturday 16 August ;150 minutes swimming with the kids Sunday 17 August ; rest day damn TOM Monday 18 August ;26 minutes elliptical , 5 minutes rebounding, 40 minutes walking Tuesday 19 August ; 40 minutes up hill walking pushing Leah (40 pounds lol), then 40 minutes downhill walking lol( dropped car off for a service and i happen to live on the biggest/steapest damn hill in the area. lol im very tired but i know i have to walk back to get my car later lol hence the 40 min downhill... ) Wednesday 20 August ; 90 minutes walking and then a further 60 minutes walking.. ahh the end of winter the sun is out.. and im gonna enjoy it !! Thursday 21 August ; 120 minutes swimming ( hubby's home tonight) Friday 22 August ; 40 minutes walking Saturday 23 August ; 120 minutes walking Sunday 24 August ; 45 minutes wii fit .. mainly hoola hoop.. i got 852 turns on one round yippee .. lol Monday 25 August ; 120 minutes walking Tuesday 26 August ; 120 minutes walking Wednesday 27 August ; rest day Thursday 28 August ; 120 minutes swimming.. I post my exercise down in the exercise forum to keep me going.. it helps to be a bit more accountable .. not that im losing any weight atm.. lol.. stupid hormones.. and stupid salty food and stupid me to.. lol .. havent gone over oin calories but have over done the salt and sugar and i never loose a thing if they are high.. stupid body lol. I agree food prices are crap.. i just bought a pack of chicken breast ( 5 boobs lol) i pack of lean mince, wombok,starwberries,12 pack of crisps and yogurt for the kids, some cheese and a pack of foccia rolls and 2 loaves of bread.. it came to.. $68 ... i was expecting $40-$45... i hate food prices |
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