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Wannabehealthy 05-26-2016 09:13 AM

Rennie, I rarely go to Dollar Tree. We had a small one nearby for years but I only went in there if there was something in particular I wanted. A lot of the food items they sell in there for $1 I can get for less at Aldi's or Walmart, but I do love their household items. They just opened a new bigger Dollar Tree about a mile from here, so once the grand opening crowd has dispersed I will have to check it out.

Trish, I didn't realize that you were referring to McDonald's type egg muffins. I thought you were talking about the egg muffins that are like quiche, with no bread. I really want to try them, with egg, swiss cheese and broccoli. I want to try in the microwave with my microwave muffin pan. Since I can't find any information online I will just try a small portion and see what happens. As long as it's edible, I will eat it. It doesn't have to be "pretty."

I could totally binge on McDonald's Sausage and Egg McMuffins!! Yum!!

pattygirl63 05-26-2016 10:27 AM

Carol Sue The low carb egg casserole I make could be made in a smaller portion (1 serving) no bread, in the microwave. I used to make those 1 cup flax muffins that was so popular for a while in the microwave. You could have an egg and whatever fillings you wish to put in it and then cook in the microwave. I just cook mine as a bigger batch in a regular 350 degree oven because, I have it cooking when my friend comes over for breakfast. I use the multigrain English muffin for the grain/fiber.

I'm not going to use the CAD plan per se. I've decided to kind of use the WW theory of at least 5 fruits and veggies which will be the bulk of my carb count. I seem to forget that fruits and veggies are carbs... good for me carbs. The starchy carbs will be kept to one meal a day. But I find it difficult to eat all my starchy and fruit carbs all in one meal. I don't like the stuffed feeling it gives me.

B - Egg/sausage/cheese mcmuffin and 1 c watermelon
L - chicken tenders, salad with EVOO & ACV, broccoli & Lactaid milk
D - chicken tenders stir-fry
S - yogurt and blueberries

Edited: Calories 1221 Carbs125 even fiber is in a fair range of 21

Rosinante 05-26-2016 12:36 PM

l[B]ove2be150[/B] - Hi! :waves:

Natural Live Yogurt has live culture in it, and there is some evidence that they can work with our own gut bacteria to improve our intestinal health. Then you can get "Bio" yogurts with additional cultures in. Apparently (I'm new at this), all yogurts labelled "natural" in the UK must, by law, have live culture in it. Apparently again, Greek yogurt is particularly good but real Greek yogurt, not Greek-style. I'm sorry, I don't know US brands.

I've just finished the 5 day Phase 1 of The Harcombe Diet, and lost 4.7lbs. Apparently (am I getting prizes for the number of times I can use this word in one post? :) ) someone lost 17lbs in Phase 1 but I imagine they had a lot to lose and were coming at the Diet as a complete newcomer. I'm quite happy with my 4.7, taking me back to 72lbs since June last year (using a variety of dietary techniques). Phase 2 for me is Phase 1 with milk added back in, this week. As the weeks go on, the idea is to add more things back in and see what, if anything, causes sensitivities or stalls. :angel:

Wannabehealthy 05-27-2016 06:14 AM

Rosinante, I don't eat a lot of yogurt, but I have never seen yogurt that does not have live active cultures. That doesn't mean it's not out there, just that I've never seen it. I try to eat some every week, but not every day. I buy plain Greek Yogurt, and some regular flavored yogurt and mix them together. The plain is too bland for me, but the flavored tastes too sweet.

Good for you on losing 4.7 lbs in just 5 days. That's great! You must be following it to the letter. I hope you are able to add some things back in without much problem.

Trish, the problem I'm having with planning my microwave egg muffins is timing. I can't find anything that tells me how long to cook them.

EDIT: I found the solution to my problem. I googled and found some recipes for Microwave Fritatta, rather than egg mufflins. I don't know if I am going to be able to make 6 and keep them....it seems that they have to be eaten right away. But they only take a matter of minutes, so I could make them when I want them.

PrairieQueen 05-27-2016 09:12 AM

Good morning everyone!

Rosinante wow! on the weight loss. I could never stick to an official diet "plan." I don't like to be told what to do :queen: Carol Suelad you found a recipe that works for you. I've never experimented much with eggs other than omelettes and desserts. Rennie thinking about you and your restart. I hope yesterday was a good day, and today is as well. I think the hardest part of weight loss is right after the "honeymoon." We get all geared up and motivated for the first week or two and then we start to get frustrated with non-miraculous results and boredom with our food choices if we are on a defined plan. Just stick with it and they loss go (the pounds). Jacqui hey there! Hope you're having some nice family time.

Yesterday was the last day of school and we were able to check out at the end of the day and not have to come in today!! I cleaned the utility and dog rooms this morn as my new freezer is being delivered this afternoon. I cleaned out my vintage kitchen cupboard so we could move it last night. I keep most of my home canned goods there. It allowed me to inventoryeverything and throw away old and/or taste failures. I found two three-year-old pints of pickled beets and ditched 6 jars of reg. pickled radishes and Korean daikon radishes. They were okay but not great.....it was a good idea at the time.

I can't seem to stay off the higher calorie dinners lately so, I've only lost a pound this month. I'm hoping all the walking I'll be doing on vacay will help me out. I do not like the food in general in England (sorry Rosinante) and find it easy to make good choices when I'm there.

Yesterday's menu...
Break - sausage mcmuffin
Lunch - soup
Snack - 7 almonds
Dinner - copycat Tuscan garlic chicken w/pennette (soooo good!)
Snack - lite beers

pattygirl63 05-27-2016 12:58 PM

Rosinante Congratulations on the 4.7 lb loss. You are doing great!!!


Carol Sue When I cook eggs in the microwave, I start with 1 minute and add 30 sec and check until I get it the way I want it. I think you could make your menu and divide it up in the microwave muffin pan you have and even freeze them. I know when I started making the 1 Minute Flax Muffin that SB dieters use, they said you could make it a head of time and freeze them for the week. You might search for it on 3fc although I realize you probably aren't adding flax seed to it. But I could have sworn Atkins or SBD had a quiche you could make in muffin pans and freeze a weeks supply of them for those who are in too hurried to cook in the mornings. I'll see if I can find one for you.

P.Q. I bet your busy vacation will help you with weight loss. I know my 45 minutes on the bike has helped me. I think for me the exercise, moving more has made a difference for me.

I started working on cleaning out my closet and packing up things I want to give to AMVET when they come around in a little over a week is really doing it for me. I've got 3 bags of clothes and I just started going through my books to give away the ones I don't want. I am keeping all my books on diabetes and low carb.

I didn't get my 5 miles on the bike yesterday only because I was so tired I couldn't make the last 1/4 of mile. I had done 3 yesterday morning, but actually got busy cleaning and packing and forgot to do the other 2 miles. Last night around 10 pm, I decided to go ahead and do the last 2 miles because my back was hurting so badly and riding the bike helps ease the pain. I went as long as I could. I tried to do the 2 miles, but felt like I would pass out if I continued so I quit. I will add the 1/4 mile to one of my rides on it today although I a getting a lot of exercise with the cleaning... bending etc.

My calories today will be 1337 and carb 130 g. I ate a little more than I planned yesterday to keep going, but amazingly, I was down 1.4 lbs this morning. Still over what my ticker says, but if I can keep it going down, I will have a weight loss this month. 2 days on Metformin and so far so good. I think it actually curbs my appetite as I don't seem to want to snack all the time. When I eat, I am actually eating for energy. That is good.

P.Q. I don't remember when you leave for England, but in case I miss you leaving, enjoy.

Jacqui, Rennie and others :wave:

Y'all have a great holiday weekend.

PrairieQueen 05-27-2016 09:01 PM

pattygirl thanks! We leave Sunday....busy day tomorrow. Cats get boarded, dogs go to daughters, laundry to do, more garden stuff needs to get done, blah, blah, blah. It's exhausting getting ready to go on holiday to "relax."

Allergy flare up again after cleaning utility/dog rooms (even though I just scrubbed it less than three weeks ago and I'm not allergic to dogs). My lab is shedding like crazy, so m sure that was it and he was stuck to me like glue today. Hubs and I went out to eat (I ate half of my meal, and brought rest home) and did the last of the gift shopping for our trip....we had one granddaughter left to buy for because her dad never sent us her current sizes until this week days after our previous excursion.

Break - leftover Tuscan garlic chicken
Lunch - chicken cilantro mini wontons
Dinner - 5 wings, 4 onion rings

Wannabehealthy 05-28-2016 03:45 PM

Have a good and safe trip, PQ!

PrairieQueen 05-29-2016 03:47 PM

Thanks Carol Sue! We're sat at the airport with time to kill. We arrived early to make sure we didn't really n I not any less nag TSA love new.....but there were not me. So, two adult drinks later in m at my gate killing time.

Yesterday's menus (with several hours of gard Ning)....
Break - leftover wings (yep, you read correctly)
Lunch - soft taco
Dinner - two yummy copycat Romanos pork chops, sweet corn, salad
Snack sky nancy margarita

So far today (after morning in garden).....
Break - 1 egg on me kettle w/cheese
Lunch - soft taco
Snack - two lite beers
Dinner - plane food ��

Rosinante 05-30-2016 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wannabehealthy (Post 5261853)
Rosinante, I don't eat a lot of yogurt, but I have never seen yogurt that does not have live active cultures. That doesn't mean it's not out there, just that I've never seen it. I try to eat some every week, but not every day. I buy plain Greek Yogurt, and some regular flavored yogurt and mix them together. The plain is too bland for me, but the flavored tastes too sweet.

Good for you on losing 4.7 lbs in just 5 days. That's great! You must be following it to the letter. I hope you are able to add some things back in without much problem.

I suspect you're right about the yogurt, my nutritional education is sadly lacking. I think they're trying to make sure we eat natural stuff, not the long-life yogurts or soya ones.
I've found if I buy the full fat ones, like Total Greek yogurt, I find it so rich and tasty that I don't add anything else to it.

I added cream and milk on days 1-4 of the Phase 2 - it was yummy! but played a bit of havoc with my insides. Don't know if it's the dairy per se or just the cream was too rich. I'm keeping the milk but losing the cream this week. We'll see :angel:

Rosinante 05-30-2016 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PrairieQueen (Post 5261885)

Rosinante wow! on the weight loss. I could never stick to an official diet "plan." I don't like to be told what to do :queen:
.....

I do not like the food in general in England (sorry Rosinante) and find it easy to make good choices when I'm there.

Hi PQ! I don't like being given specific meal plans but I do enjoy a list of DOs and DON'Ts, especially when I'm starting/re-starting/re-committing - sometimes I just feel like I've forgotten what a decent meal looks like, and hints help.

No worries about not liking the food in England! I love the food in Germany, Russia and Finland; don't care for it in France or Italy or Spain. It's been so long since I was in the States that I don't remember much apart from an enormous, Huge plate of pastrami in Boston as a cheap sandwich meal - pastrami is pretty expensive in England and not nearly as good; and I remember a buffet breakfast bar at the hotel in Boston (Copley Plaza) - it was the first time I'd ever seen such a thing.

Enjoy your trip, by the way! :)

Rosinante 05-30-2016 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pattygirl63 (Post 5261942)
Rosinante Congratulations on the 4.7 lb loss. You are doing great!!!

Thank you! In the end I made 5.9lbs in a week but it stayed the same yesterday and went up a bit today. Yes, I know daily weighing is not necessarily a good thing for a worry-wart.

Rosinante 05-30-2016 03:55 AM

Thank you for all the kind words!

Good luck to us all :carrot:

Rosinante 05-31-2016 03:35 AM

And up again today. Quite grumpy about it, because I'm sticking to the rules. Hm.

Rosinante 06-01-2016 02:35 AM

Didn't weigh today, woohoo! Daily weighing was making me unwell, so I'm going to try and keep it weekly, and try to trust the Diet! eep!

Wannabehealthy 06-01-2016 08:53 AM

Rosinante, I don't weigh every day. I can have a day when I'm not very hungry and don't eat much, but still don't show a loss the next day. My weight goes up and down the same 4-5 lbs. I pay more attention to my blood sugar. When it's high, I know I didn't eat right, when it's low, I know I did.

Portions in US are way out of line. You find that mostly in restaurants, and I believe they do that so they can justify the prices. Better to sell 150 large meals than 100 smaller ones. If the people don't eat it all, they still made their money. We have a few restaurants in our area that still have smaller meals. My step-daughter goes there and feels as if they've been cheated, but for DH and I, the meals are just right and closer to our price range. I still bring some home occasionally.

Yesterday, I exercised for 60 min. 30 cardio and 30 weights. I want to do the weights twice a week but would like to keep up with the cardio at least 5 days a week. I'm doing this more to keep myself mobile. I don't want to need a walker or any other support if I can help it. The exercise also helps my blood sugar and blood pressure.

PrairieQueen 06-01-2016 02:54 PM

Hi everyone! Day three of our trip and I've done so well until tonight (see below)...

Monday - fruit cup & cheese croissant on plane, Kind savory protein bar, thin crust pizza w/no flavor in York
Tuesday - rashers and fried egg, lovely 2-course meal at French spot in York consisting of chicken pate/baguette/Carmelited onion relish, chicken w/leek, tarragon, cream salad, candy bar
Wednesday - rashers and fried eggs, steak and ale pie, fries, onion rings

We went to Highclere Castle (Downton Abbey), Scarborough seaside, Castle Howard and Some boring places for hubs

Rosinante 06-02-2016 04:29 AM

Ooo Scarborough! Shades of childhood vacations!!

PrairieQueen 06-03-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosinante (Post 5262944)
Ooo Scarborough! Shades of childhood vacations!!

For my hubs as well! He's from N. Lincs, so spending some time here before we do the London thing :)

Wannabehealthy 06-04-2016 10:23 AM

Sounds like you are enjoying your trip, PQ. Nice that you are able to keep in touch. The thread might die without you! LOL

Wannabehealthy 06-05-2016 10:20 AM

Well, it looks like Jacqui and Rennie have deserted us again. Just when I decided to knuckle down and could use all the input I can get. Yoo hoo! Where are you?

After my talk with my cardiologist I have decided I want to lose 20 lbs and 5 inches in my waist. That is where I was in 2011, and I think I could be happy with that. Not thin, but healthier. My BP and BG were much better then, and with fewer meds. My diet has improved so much in the past few years, but I know I am not as diligent as I could be, and that's what's needed to get the scale moving. I am lax in keeping the slip ups under control. I tell myself that it's just a little bit, but little bits add up. I'm only fooling myself if I say I'm doing my best. I also need to up my exercise, as the doctor suggested.

How are you doing, Rosinante? Still hanging in there? You seem to have a good grip on your plan, setting a good example for me.

I don't usually like plans that say don't eat this, or that. Because of my diabetes I know I have to really restrict starchy carbs and sugar. But I am not as strict with other things. If there are carrots or corn in my meal, I don't worry about it but try to stick with smaller portions. I wonder if I need to pay more attention there. I normally stay away from deli meat, but lately I have been buying deli turkey and eating it either chopped up in my salad, or wrapped in a lettuce leaf. I know that is not really a desireable choice. Too much fat and sodium. But they put it on sale and the price appeals to me. I only buy it when it's on sale. I do much better when I do this with roasted chicken and probably should stick to that. I like to eat dark meat chicken, and then use the white meat to make some chicken salad to add to my salads or in a lettuce wrap.

Right now my weight is in the "down" category, so I've got a bit of a start, as long as I don't mess it up. I will not start weighing daily, but will do it at least once a week to see my progress of lack thereof.

I also want to get back to drinking more water. I hate to do that if I'm going somewhere because I need the bathroom too often, but I do need to keep from being dehydrated.

Jacqui, I saw that you mentioned your weight being up from drinking water at night. Try not to worry much about fluctuation that you know are from water, because it's just water, not fat. And the water is good for you, and in the long run it helps to flush the fat and toxins out. I know it can get discouraging seeing the scale go up, but if you know you've stayed on plan, you don't need to be concerned. Unless you have a medical reason to be retaining fluids, it won't stay with you long.

Jacqui, how long were you at your Dad's, or are you still there for an extended period of them? Did you do a lot of damage? It's funny how we tend to eat differently when we got out of our normal territory. You know you do better when you're posting. I hope there's not a problem.

PQ, I hope things are going well for you. I forgot how long your vacation is. I know you have the summer off, but don't know if you're spending the whole summer abroad. I would get homesick and Rusty would miss his mommy.

pattygirl63 06-06-2016 12:47 PM

I have MIA here and I do apologize. It has just taken me a while to get on a plan and stick with it. I too hate dos and don'ts of a plan, but I know there have to be some. I couldn't decide if I wanted to do low carb, slow carb, calorie counting, WW pts etc and I am in a place where I don't want to count anything any more.

I don't have to count anything on Carbohydrate Addict's Diet, but I am not 100% sure it is good for me to put all my starchy carbs in one meal. I can really overload in that 1 hr meal although I don't eat for 1 whole hour. My Reward Meal usually only last 35 minutes, but I find I can cram a lot of food in that hr that I'm afraid will rise my blood sugar if I eat it somewhere else during the day.

I have always leaned more toward eating low carb although not Atkins low and I like the idea of Intuitive Eating theory of eat only when hungry. Many of you know I tried the new WW SP plan because I heard that is more Low carb friendly. However, the pts counting just didn't work for me. I can't handle having to eat a set amount of calories or carbs or pts. It either sets me up for over or under eating. Goes back to Carol Sue's rules of dos and don'ts. I just don't do well with them. Then Saturday it hit me. The old WW Core plan that later became the Simply Filling Foods Plan. Low carbing without a lot of rules or counting unless I decided to have a treat or food that is not on the list of foods that doesn't have to be counted. For example, I plan to have corn on the cob for lunch today and I will have to count the 4pts for it which will come off either my extra Weekly pts allowed or Activity pts I earn. Reading the book yesterday, the recommendation is 20 minutes of exercise 3 days a week. I do 45 minutes 5 to 6 days a week. So if I only have an occasional pts food I have to count, I probably won't even have to worry about that.

Too keep myself accountable I will come here each evening and post what I ate that day. I've changed my ticker to where my weight is today. I did my measurements this morning so I'm good to go. I am making my WI day will be Mondays. So my starting WI today was 225 meaning I was up 4 lbs. The measuring tape was up but was nicer than my scale.

My food plan for today as I already have it planned

B - 2 sl turkey bacon, 1 sl FF Am. Cheese and 2 eggs
L - 4 oz beef stead, salad w/EVOO & ACV and 1 ear corn-on-cob (4pts)
and glass of FF milk and FF yogurt
D - 1/2 c lentils w/pepper onions stir-fry and turkey 1 oz sausage
S - 1 Slim fast protein shake

Ex - 5 miles on recumbent bike (approx. 45 minutes)

Y'all have a nice day. See y'all tomorrow.

Carol Sue, Jacqui, PQ, Rennie, Rosinante and others :wave:

Wannabehealthy 06-07-2016 08:34 AM

Trish, I noticed that the ladies on the CAD/CALP thread don't eat much carb, even at the RM. I think that's the key. You get to taste a bit, but not overdo it. They have a bit of one carb one day, then a bit of another the next day. it's not good for diabetics to have too much carb at one meal, even with the second meal effect. I think it would be better to alternate the carbs from day to day rather than try to fit them all into one meal. I think that's what causes people problems when they do CAD. They think of it as getting 1 hours to eat all the carbs they can get their hands on, and that's not right. No one is going to lose that way, or keep healthy BG. I guess I shouldn't say "no one" because Jacqui loses very well doing her carb day once a week, and she really enjoys the carbs. I hope she's just busy and will be back soon. I miss her.

Tomorrow I am going for a cardiac stress test in the AM. I am not to take any diabetes meds the morning of the test, and I am going to skip them this evening, just to be sure. I also have to fast for the test, so no bedtime snack tonight. This will be a test, to see how my FBG is tomorrow. I did great with carbs yesterday and want to stay away from them altogether today. There was a bit of brown rice in my stuffed peppers but it did not give me a spike. I don't know what would happen if I went to the test with a high BG. I think the meds would maybe interact with the meds used for the test, or maybe they don't want me to have a hypo during the test. The test is 3 hours so it will be lunchtime by the time it's over.

pattygirl63 06-07-2016 11:06 AM

Good morning Everyone. Just a quick flyby. I did finally get my exercise done last night around 9ish. I've always heard you shouldn't exercise at night at bed time as it wakes you up. However, I had been so busy that I fell asleep in my chair. Problem was DH who stays up almost all night decided to clean some things in the master bathroom talking to me while I was getting ready for bed caused me to come alive for a bit and although I went to bed, I like to have never gone to sleep. They used to tell us parents that even if a child wasn't sleeping at nap time, they got benefits of rest. I hope that is true for the nights I lay there quietly for so long before going to sleep. LOL

I did eat a little more yesterday than planned. Not going to track on here what I eat as I'm doing this the WW Simply Filling/Intuitive Eating way and sometimes, I just get a bite of an allowed food to stop the hunger and go on. Example, I cooked lentils yesterday and once I felt so hungry and just ate a spoonful of lentils and I was fine. Since not having to count pts for them, I don't worry about it.

Weight was down a tad this morning so I guess I did okay. I thought about adding IF in the plan. I saw someone on another thread eating one meal a day. I would love to do that as that is how I used to eat when I was thin, but I have a difficult time doing that maybe because of the bs. However, I kind of try to do an 8 hr window any way and I have been successful with a 5 hr window in the past. I just might try that again. If I could do a 5 - 7 hr window, I could work it around the hrs I get hungry at night.

Carol Sue When the original CAD came out, you didn't eat the RM the way a lot of people do now. A RM was exactly one hour to eat a regular meal of whatever you wanted. I lost 65+ lbs eating that way without any problem. It has been changed and tweaked over the years as their new books came out. The FB group is set up according to the original CAD although some follow some of the options of the new books as I do most of the time of a balance or fairly balanced RM most of the time. The books allow us to tweak CAD to fit our lifestyle.

Originally, people could eat 1 meal a day RM which that is all I ate for a long time. Some eat only 1 RM and ! CM. Some do 1 RM, 1 CM and 1 CMS snack a day which is what my plan is most of the time. There are some days I seem to need more and I may add another CM or CMS. CAD allows us to eat lowfat or fat according to our health/preferences. I like it because it fits my lifestyle with DH. I can do it lowfat, no fat, moderate fat or high fat plus I'm not deprived of any favorite foods I want to eat as long as I eat low carb meals and snacks with only 1 carbohydrate food a day.

In fact, according to what I heard Dr. Rachel Heller say on tv, you don't even have to exercise to lose weight when doing CAD although it is helpful. I heard her tell a woman on tv who had pigged out on cookies the night before the show that the cookies binge could have been counted as her RM if she wanted it to be as long as all her other meals and snack had been CM. In CAD, they had covered everything to keep it from feeling like a diet and illuminate the feeling of "I have blown it today so why bother feeling".

So yes it can work and you can lose weight if it done properly.

Edited to say... I'm not actually doing CAD. I am doing WW Simply Filling/Core Diet and I eat mostly the carby foods allowed and spread the carbs out throughout the day. This is where a few carbs come in for me. I am also using Intermittent Fasting 8 hr window along with this.

Good luck on your tests.

Rosinante 06-08-2016 02:15 AM

Fascinating to hear how others are getting on :)

I'm still hanging in there (thanks for asking, wbh; thanks for the wave, pg63). I'm enjoying The Harcombe Diet because it's set me free from obsessively weighing lettuce leaves.... It also seems - SEEMS, fingers crossed - to be having a really positive impact on my mood, which is amazing.

I'm eating meat/fish with hot veggies or salads. I'm eating some dairy in the form of cream but not cheese, which has started to disagree with me; I've discovered that spiralized veg (butternut squash or zucchini so far) fried in butter is delicious, and filling, and feels like a treat. I'm on Day #19, and will be weighing in on Friday - I've dumped daily scale-weighing too. I got a couple of things wrong in the 2nd week but not deliberately, and haven't cheated once (yet). I'm not eating fat by the bucket-load but I Am eating enough to keep me feeling full. :)

Wannabehealthy 06-09-2016 07:05 AM

Rosinante, it does sound as though you have really found your niche! It sounds like a well rounded healthy plan and you are getting all your necessary nutrients. Good for you. I hope you get a good weigh-in.

I keep forgetting that I have my spiralizer. That is the only way I like zucchini. I saute it in some butter and top it with some grated parmesan cheese. Very tasty. I have a few small sweet potatoes. I wonder if they could be spiralized? I should try that. I don't like to get stuck on the same vegetables over and over but when I buy them, I want to use them up before they go bad.

Trish, I seem to fall asleep in a matter of minutes some nights, but if I wake up in the middle of the night then I can have trouble falling back to sleep. Last night I was really drained. I went into the bedroom at 6:30 to watch my soap operas that I had missed in the afternoon, but fell asleep and missed one of them. I had my stress test yesterday morning. I was there from 8:30-12:30. It went well, but it was draining because I am concerned about the outcome. When I fall asleep early in the evening like that I tend to not sleep as well overnight. I was up early this morning.

I remember when CAD first came out. My friend's sister was doing it. I don't like to hear "eat whatever you want" because I don't think anyone should consider a cookie binge to be OK. Just my opinion. I believe that most overweight people have some type of eating disorder that made them that way, and saying that a cookie binge is OK is supporting binge eating. I think the overall goal should be to work at breaking those bad habits such as binge eating. Breaking the bad habits is what makes it a lifestyle change. I have only started feeling this way in my old age, mind you. I can remember in my 20s when I was dieting or trying to maintain my loss, I would go all day at work with no breakfast or lunch, but I would have a big bag of M&Ms at my desk and eat them all day. I considered that to be OK because I wasn't eating anything else, and I didn't gain weight from it. Looking back, it sure wasn't doing my health any good, but I was concentrating on how I looked and what the scale said, not on nutrition. So, take what I say with a grain of salt, because you and I both know I talk a good talk but don't always practice what I preach. LOL

Now, as a diabetic, I consider my best rule to be no more than 1 carb at a meal. Reading an article online recently, it reminded me that 1 serving of carb is 15 gm. I don't weigh or measure my food, but I know that 15 gm isn't much. With the ADA guidelines of 45 gm of carb at a meal, that would be 1 cup of low fat milk, 1 slice of bread and 1 15gm serving of starch, such as potato or rice. Or a larger serving of just 1 item. That meal was OK when I was first diagnosed, but would raise my blood sugar too high, now. Last night I had chicken chow mein with white rice and I don't want to tell you how high my blood sugar went after that! I know I had way more than 15 gm of rice. I am really better off if I just stay away from those foods, as I have such a hard time keeping portions small. But that was what DH wanted so I ate it too.

I read and posted in that 1 meal a day thread. I would like to try it, but so far haven't been able to do it. DH cooks breakfast most mornings, and if I don't eat it, he would never do it again. Once I see those scrambled eggs I want them. If he didn't make them, I might not think about it. I know I'm making excuses. Things would be so different if I lived alone. I would be eating on my time schedule, not his.

So far I'm still staying under 200, by a thread, but not dropping any more. I don't know what it will take for that to happen.

Nothing from PQ for a few days. She must be having a nice time.

I think Rennie and Jacqui fell off the face of the earth. :(

pattygirl63 06-09-2016 12:31 PM

Carol Sue I'm not sure Dr. Rachel really meant that anyone should binge, but then the diet was new and I really took it as she may have been showing that as long as all other meals/snacks were from the CM list that rather than falling off the plan because of guilt feelings of failure that it would be better to just count the binge as a RM. Perhaps later when they changed the rule of the RM to 2 c salad and a plate divided in 1/3 protein 1/3 carbohydrate and 1/3 low carb veggies was because people were using the RM to binge or overdo the higher carbs. I agree that anyone thinking the could do that everyday would be disastrous.

Rosinonte You are doing very well. Your plan obviously fits you well.

I'm doing a morning fast until after doctors appointment in an hour. I hope I can make it a OMAD kind of day, but if not I will make it an IF of 2 meals or one meal and a snack. I'm looking into Paleo again. I kind of like it although it doesn't allow for dairy. So not sure if I will actually do Paleo or modify it a little to include grated cheese.

BBL

pattygirl63 06-09-2016 07:00 PM

Doctor's appointment went very well. My blood sugar was down a little and my weight was down 2 lbs. Also triglycerides had come down. Sodium is a little low and he doesn't want me to take the fluid pill everyday any more. Just take it as needed. Doing Paleo should keep me from having to take them at all since I never retain fluid when I strictly do lowcarb.

Doctor said I don't have to take the Metformin. He said as long as I can control the blood sugar with diet and exercise we will continue with that. Good overall visit.

Rosinante 06-10-2016 01:37 AM

pg63 - Well done, that sounds great!

I've weighed this morning and have gone up almost a pound since Saturday. Not quite understanding the plan yet, maybe next week...... On the other hand, my bodyfat is down 1.3% . I genuinely have not cheated.

Away for a week now, and hope to be doing a lot of walking, which should move the weightloss along. I hope. I love the improved mood, it's wonderful!, but I do need to be losing weight too.

Onwards.

Good luck, everyone :D

Wannabehealthy 06-10-2016 09:53 AM

Rosinate, I'm sorry to hear you had that slight gain. It's not understandable at all, but that's how it is with the scale. So many things can change it.

How are you testing your body fat?

Trish, that's why I can't just choose a particular eating plan and stick to it. Some say no dairy, and I want dairy once in a while. Some say no beans, I want beans once in a while. And on and on. I don't eat any of these things on a daily basis, but prefer not to eliminate them altogether. As soon as I see something eliminated on a plan, I set that plan aside. I have to be a free spirit. I lost weight before eating everything, but in smaller portions. I was younger, and didn't have the medical problems I have. Is that it? I'm so tired of hearing DH tell me that I can't do it. I want to prove him wrong!

pattygirl63 06-10-2016 12:35 PM

Roninante Sorry about the gain, but I'm sure it isn't weight and is temporary. The walking should help. Enjoy your time away.

Carol Sue I know how you feel about eliminating foods as I believe there are nutrients that are important in some. I told my doc that I would probably say I'm following a modified version of paleo mainly because I believe some grains like lentils have a place in a diabetics food plan. I may be wrong, but I don't think so. I also think dairy has a place in our diet although they would disagree as well as most low carb diets. However, when low carbing some cheeses are allowed. I think that is another reason I like the old original CAD. Nothing is forbidden if eaten within the guidelines of the plan. But I thin WW SF makes it easier to eat some of the things throughout the day that CAD wants eaten during one hour and I'm still not convinced that is good either. I guess that is why I fall back into eating what I eat within the guidelines of Intermittent Fasting. I like taking the best ideas of all and create my own plan.

We have a lot of people MIA here. I hope they are all doing fine.

PrairieQueen 06-11-2016 03:36 PM

Good afternoon everyone! I'm back home in Ohio after having a magnificent time in England. I weighed in this morning and I'm up five pounds....hopefully water retention as I feel very puffy today and my legs feel like concrete weights. I actually did pretty well with the food/alcohol intake but not nearly enough water. I had two creamy sauce Italian meals and one over the top French meal but walked like crazy and even skipped a few meals. I've been back to my own "boot camp" today, so I hope to see improvements soon.

Our side of beef was picked up today with the right cuts this year. Last year I didn't give them enough specifics and didn't get the meat in all the cuts I wanted.

Todays menu...
Break - ham/cheese on sourdough
Lunch - Cobb salad
Dinner - flat iron steak, sweet corn, sweet potato oven fries

Lots of water

pattygirl63 06-11-2016 04:12 PM

P.Q. Welcome back. Sounds like you did very well on your trip and those 5 lbs will be gone in no time. I'm sure it is water weight more from the travel than what you ate. I have that when traveling long trips in a car and I suspect it is the same for flying. Glad you had a good trip.

Now we just need to hear from our others MIA.

PrairieQueen 06-12-2016 05:15 PM

Evening ladies! It was a nice day here.....weeded a little and ran errands. Hubs back to work tomorrow and life gets back to "normal." A 1.5 lbs of water weight gone this morning....lets hope it continues to be shed :)

Break - bun less cheeseburger
Lunch - ham/cheese/egg on sourdough
Dinner - Cajun beef/andouille sausage casserole

Wannabehealthy 06-13-2016 07:55 AM

PQ! Welcome home! It sounds like you had a great trip! I wouldn't worry about the 5 lbs. I can gain 5 lbs easily, without being on a vacation. However, being retired is like being on vacation all the time. LOL With all that you've lost so far, 5 lbs is a drop in the bucket, and you've already lost some of it. Now you get to enjoy the rest of your summer before school starts up again. DH and I were just talking. 4 th of July is coming up in a couple weeks. It seems after that they start having "back to school" items in the stores. Summer gets shorter and shorter every year. Our weather has been so crazy. April was hot. May was cold and rainy. Now June is going from hot to cool from day to day. One day we have the air conditioner running, then we have it off for a couple days. It's hard to plan.

Trish, I do fine not having carbs throughout the day, but I usually have a bit at the evening meal when I cook for DH. So it is similar to CAD. Not so much when we eat out, because I usually order a meal salad when we're out. The steak salad I order has steak fries in it, but I don't eat them. I would tell them "no fries" but sometimes DH will eat them. He is Mr Potato Head.

Today I am going to try to keep my calories low. I will have scrambled eggs for breakfast later on. That's a given. But I have a lot of salad fixin's in the house so I will make a salad for my lunch. A hard boiled egg in it for protein, or maybe some deli turkey. I don't much like this turkey I bought but will not waste it. If I have the taste of everything else with it, it will be OK. The dog likes it. LOL I would like to have talapia for dinner, so then I have to find something else to make for DH. He doesn't like talapia.

Last night I was reading through a book I have called Mindless Eating. It reminded me of some things, like, if something is sitting out where you can see it, you will tend to nibble on it here and there through out the day. And I find that to be true. It suggested having veggies already cut up in the refrigerator, so when you open it, you see them first. I don't take the time to do that, but I should. If I went celery for example, I have to stop and cut it up. Also, there's the smaller plate thing. It said if you put your food on a smaller plate it looks like more and you eat less. That doesn't work for me, because I go back for seconds. I think to myself "I just had a small portion, I can have some more." But I should be thinking more that I'm satisfied and don't need that second helping. It said that you should put less food on your plate, because you might just eat it all because it's there. And always leave a bit of food on your plate. That one is so hard for me! DH ALWAYS leaves something on his plate. My sister-in-law had a theory about that. When DH and his brothers were growing up, they were always told to clean their plate. Instead, they would always leave some food on their plate, in defiance. His mother always cooked way more food than was needed because she didn't want anyone to leave the table hungry. When I was growing up, food was scarce. We finished everything because we didn't know when we were going to get more.

So I don't think it has anything to do with which diet plan I follow. It's the behavior modification that I need to work on. My best diet was my first one, when I had no choice but to eat whatever my mother prepared, so I had to be diligent in limiting my portions and not eating between meals. I lost fastest and best on that plan, and I was eating things like Veal Parmesan and all these home made stews and casseroles. Nothing was low carb, low calorie or low fat. And I maintained that loss for over 10 years! When I got married, junk food was plentiful in our house. I lost my good control of my eating habits. Not the food so much as the behavior toward it.

PrairieQueen 06-13-2016 08:06 PM

Evening those of you still checking in! I know summertime is busy for a lot of us though.

Today was hubs' and my ninth wedding anniversary. I worked close to four hours in the garden today! (With breaks, of course.) I knew I was cooking an high calorie dinner and wanted to be proactive :) the weeds are slowly but surely waving goodbye.

Break - sourdough toast with organic peanut butter
Snack - pineapple
Lunch - leftover Cajun casserole
Snack - pineapple
Dinner - ham/asparagus/penne w/light white wine cream sauce, homemade white chocolate putting topped w/chopped macadamia nuts & mini chocolate chips

Jacqui_D 06-14-2016 08:08 AM

Good morning, All! Sorry I've been AWOL! Believe me, I'm paying for it! When I had pizza with my Dad, that started me on a downward spiral. I'm telling you, I have to be on or off my diet. For some reason, in my brain, there's no middle ground. So I fell off my diet. That's the first time I've been all the way off it (not just overeating) in over a year! My word, the body puts weight back on quickly! Thank goodness it leveled out at 188--I've been that for a few days now--but look how quickly I got here! And 200 is right back around the corner at this rate! When I got back home from Dad's, I intended to jump back on the wagon, but I am playing a catch-up game with our antique business, among other things. Excuses, of course. I am staying super busy but I have to get back on here and get back on my diet. For a while I am going to be extremely busy. (My DH is already trying to get me away from the computer now to come help him. He's a morning person. I'm not. That's my quiet time when I like to get on the computer to start the day, but he likes to jump right in and start working.) So I will catch up reading when I can. I've missed y'all! I can't believe how quickly the days flew by! That was WAYYYY too long! Anyway, I'm here, and I am jumping back ON the wagon TODAY! :D

Wannabehealthy 06-14-2016 12:24 PM

Happy Anniversary, PQ! I remember 9 years. It was a looooong time ago!

Jacqui, glad to see you back, finally. I understand about being busy. You have this thing called a life. I have no life, so I have nothing to do but sit and post. I try to do other things, really I do!

Got a call from the cardiology office. My stress test was "slightly abnormal" and I have to go back on the 24th to "discuss" it. They gave me no other clue as to what's wrong, but when I asked if I could still exercise they said yes, so how bad could it be? Now I have 10 more days to stress out about this. Not a happy camper. I wish I had some idea what this is all about so I could google. LOL Then by the time I got there, I would know all about it. I did google "abnormal stress test" but most of what that said was blockages. In the past, an abnormal stress test just led to catherization. Nothing to discuss. Otherwise, do I just wait around until the blockage gets bigger? This is going to be a long 10 days. Right away DH started on me about the eggs I eat. My cholesterol went down in spite of the eggs, so I am sticking by my belief that they are not what causes blocked arteries.

Jacqui_D 06-15-2016 11:34 AM

Carol Sue, I hate that you are having to wait and worry. They must not be too concerned about it. "Slightly" abnormal doesn't sound too bad, they haven't stopped you from exercising, they didn't tell you to come in immediately, and obviously they are not concerned about the stress on your heart as you worry about it for 10 days! :mad: I've read that new studies say cholesterol in food doesn't cause the bad cholesterol in your body, so your eggs should be fine. :yes: I'll be keeping you in my prayers!

PrairieQueen, Happy Anniversary! :celebrate: I'm so glad you had a great time in England and that you are home safely! :cp:

Hi Trish and Rosinante! :wave:

Rennie, come check in! :hug:

I'm down a half lb today! :dancer: I ate late last night or it possibly might have dropped a little more. But hey, I'm just glad it's going in the right direction now! :woohoo:

WeeK 1:
6/12--188
6/13--188
6/14--188 (Back on the wagon!)
6/15--187.5
6/16--
6/17--
6/18--

Breakfast:
2 fried eggs
2 sausage patties
Fage yogurt with Mio
Mio water (sweet tea flavor, yum!)

Lunch:
Grilled BBQ Chicken
Diet Dr. Pepper

Snack:

Dinner:
Yogurt
Almonds
Mio water

PrairieQueen 06-15-2016 04:24 PM

Good afternoon ladies! I hope everyone is enjoying the summer......even though I really want it to rain for my garden. I lost another smidgen of vacation weight......a few more pounds to go to get back to pre-England numbers. Today's the first day I haven't felt puffy, and allergies aren't as bad as they were when we first got back. I've been keeping on track except for the breaded/fried chicken strips and chips I had last night. I've been working outside every morning, so hopefully I'll get a whoosh soon.

I read over half of The Paris Wife on the trip home, and it so good. Almost finished.

Yesterday...
Break - boneless chicken thigh
Lunch - two boneless chicken thighs, pineapple
Snack - boneless chicken thigh
Dinner - chicken strips, Saratoga chips

I had been craving protein all day.

Today...
Break - Amy's cheese/bean burrito
Lunch - garden salad w/bacon, lime dressing
Snack - pineapple
Dinner later - garden salad, lime dressing, soft shredded beef tacos/sour cream


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