Hello Everybody,

Lilian Congratulations on the 10 lb loss and making you a 34 lb total.

Blue, Carolr, Julie, Sara and others

I finally have my Beck cognitive therapy working with my IE. Not counting calories any more, however, I am applying some margins on quantity along with quality of eating. Our Pastor has been teaching on having margins in our lives. Others might call them limits. It actually goes along with the diet in the IE book. Took the different food groups and I put a margin/limit of the least amount needed for health and the most I can have and still lose weight. Using this formula (for lack of better name), I can eat more along healthy Whole Foods plan and not have to think about food all the time. That is one of my goals to stop having "food" on my mind all the time. Also I think this will also get rid of that nasty the "diet" mentality. Also plan to get back to an exercise routine. At my age the exercise to develop and keep strong, healthy bones more than to lose weight. The weight loss from exercise to me is just a bonus.

Y'all have a good day.

Congratulations Liliann! Hi to all. We just go back from vacation and WOW did we eat a lot. I got a little worried one night but today I was barely hungry and am now back to my old self. Thank the Lord! Trish, are you reading the book Margin? My dh loves that book.

Carolr Welcome home. Sounds like you were able to get back to eating IE healthy so that was great. I notice that there are days I am more hungry than others. No, I haven't read that book. Didn't know about it. Who is the author? I might want to get it.

I love the way things are suddenly coming together with my IE and the Beck cognitive therapy. I want to remake some of my Response cards because I prefer to eat only until satisfied since I prefer that to feeling full. I also like the idea of eating when I'm hungry and not eating when I'm not. I am beginning to feel more in control. I've had 2 really good days OP.

Hi all!

Lilliann, congrats to you! Sounds like you're doing great!

Welcome back, Carol!

Trish, sounds like you're getting settled into this way of eating nicely, too.

Just checking in, still hanging in there. I haven't been on the scale in several days, but the last time I checked I was down 2 pounds. I hope this continues! My workouts are going well, getting easier by the week. That first week I had a headache after each workout, that's no longer a problem and the moves are getting easier, too. I have 6 different Richard Simmons videos I'm working out to on rotation and the moves are different for the most part (tho he repeats some of them) so learning all the different moves to all the different songs has been a bit challenging. I think my favorites are Sweatin to the Oldies #4 (that's the one I had used years ago, so I remembered it pretty well) and I just LOVE the "Boogie Down the Pounds" disco one! Woo-oop! Woo-oop! What fun! Hahahaha!

Well anyways, have a great day everybody!

PS. How's our new friends doing? We've had several newbies to the thread who are welcome here anytime! Just jump right in.

Hi Blue. Good going on the 2 lb. I've been trying to get back into exercising but today I was so tired from vacation that I took a nap. Maybe tonight I will try.

Blue Congrats on the 2 lb loss.

Carolr Hope you get a good rest from your trip.

Everyone else

Trish, the author is Richard Swenson and I think he's a doctor. You can look at it on Amazon.

I have come to the place where I am really enjoying IE. I am so thrilled with the help I'm getting from my cognitive therapy. I've made my Response cards and my Advantages deck with IE principles and what I hope to gain. I made them to help me change my thinking and my bad habits to good habits. I am not as hungry as I used to be. So it is working. I am so thrilled that I don't think of food all the time and I believe the "diet" mindset has left me because I don't feel like I am on a diet. I am making it a point to be more active and move more. No more dieting, just making a new healthier lifestyle.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Hi Trish. I started using the eliptical again and did 10 min. the first day and 18 the second. This morning my hips are hurting and now I don't know what to do. Any suggestions? It is easy to get carried away with it because you can get to breathing hard in a short period of time and it feels like you are really accomplishing something. I'm glad you are finding success with what you are doing. Keep up the good work!

Hi Carolr, I think you have to slow down on it like I've had to. If I do too much, my hip joints hurt. I've had them checked by chiropractor and they seem to be okay, but I can't do things like I used to. The Beck diet I read does say exercise, but it also reminds people that 5 minutes of exercise is better than 0 minutes. I also have heard that at my age (people in 60's) moving is the important thing. So I would take a day off or however long to get your hip feeling good again. Then start back and may do 5 or 10 minutes a day until your hip adjusts or maybe do 10 minutes ever other day. Experiment to see what your body is able to handle. I think learning what workouts and how much our body can handle is as much a part of IE as the eating is.

I read that walking around at the store isn't exercise, but they must never have been shopping with someone like me. Yes, I have some slow walking, but I fast walk too. According to the new South Beach Diet book that came out a few years ago, that works better than a constant fast walk. So I even count my shopping sprees as exercise as well as any other exercise I do.

I hope you are feeling better. Have a good day.

Hi I'm Judi. I'm new here to this thread.

Carol you posted on the "anyone following weigh down" blog and I liked your post.So it drew me here.I get alot out of what you ladies say on here.I like your group.I'm ordering the "Thin Within" book today and hope it is all I hear it is.

I desire to lose weight on the fullness principle as I hear it is very successful.I have been overweight most of my life.I'm sure alot of you know the rollercoaster ride of yo yo syndrome.Well,I hate it,and want off!

I really want to learn to eat for life.I'm not good at being committed to exercise but have a treadmill in my garage and use it occassionally.I have a exercise bike too,but it needs repaired.

So I would like to join your discussions.I feel alot of good ideas and encouragement is shared here.I need discipline and correction in my eating and exercise habits.

Have a blessed day all.

Judi


Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,but he who hates correction is stupid.Proverbs 12:1

Judi and to our group. We are glad to have you here. And look forward to getting to know you.

I love the Thin Within program. Some of my positive thoughts and ideas came from it. I had the first book I found in a bookstore years ago and absolutely loved it because of the Christian guidance. I never bought the other workbooks and I would buy them now but I thought I had to be a member of a local group. I don't know if that is true. Are you a memeber of a group? I did attend a group for a while in the church I went to previously, but I had to quit when I hurt my knee and never went back when I recovered. The materials are great and will fit in very nicely with IE. I've learned to work my food plan and things I do to help me lose weight with IE principles. I never intend to follow a "diet" again, but I am working to change my thoughts and attitudes about food and develop new eating skills that will become a part of a healthy lifestyle that I choose to live.

Boy I definitely know about yo yo dieting. I have done it so much I've messed up my metabolism. I'm in the process now of allowing my body to get adjusted to the fact that I'm not going to starve it any more. Hopefully then my metabolism will start working for me again. And exercise isn't too easy these days, but I am learning that any movement is activity and works the same as exercise. So I am working more at being more active and it is beginning to work. I am feeling better. I noticed the last few nights that I sleep most of the night and feel good during the day and I don't think food all the time any more. I'm not taking ibuprofin every night for pain. So it is finally coming together for me.

Carol is great at bringing lots of information to this group so I think you will learn a lot here. I know I have and I'm better for it. Just remember to be kind to yourself and not to expect too much too fast. Give yourself time as this is a lifetime journey, not a quick fix. I say that because that is my tendency and most dieters feel that way. As we start walking this journey as a lifestyle instead of a diet, it will get easier to do. It gives you a calmness or contentment to your life.

Again welcome and jump in and share your feelings. Someone here will be able to help or we will at least try.

Judi, I see from the other thread that you are only 47. Most of us here are in our 60's and just getting a hold of this. If you can be patient and learn all you can about this you will be way ahead of us. Really it has probably been only in the last year that I don't buy diet books or magazines anymore and really eat what I want between hunger and fullness. I'm still so amazed by it! I'm so thankful for the grace of God that allowed me to learn this. I noticed years ago, when I started to do a lot of fasting, that my weight problem got worse. Fasting is fine for spiritual reasons but not for weight loss.

Just a little something from Beyond Chocolate.

Principle no. 2:

Eat when you're hungry

At Beyond Chocolate, we've known for a long time that to 'eat when you're hungry' is the key to a healthy relationship with food. And from the cluster of recent media on the subject, everyone else seems to be realising it too!

Exploring the current trend for gastric surgery in a recent Times article, Janice Turner poignantly remarks that it is '[e]asier to blame the fat for their moral failings than to unpick how...we lost the rudder that steers our bodily ship: our appetite.' Recognising the role of advertising, food suppliers and the diet industry, Turner concludes that '[a] whole generation...has forgotten how to work that elaborate mechanism. Rather than lecture children that foods are "good" and "bad", fetishising the forbidden so that they long to eat them, we need to get them to listen to their bodies. But first we must retrain ourselves. Do you really want that? Are you really hungry?'

Tuning in to our hunger is, of course, no news to Susie Orbach, who has been researching food and body issues for over 35 years. With the Government's Change4Life scheme hailed as the next big thing, Orbach's article 'Fat because we've forgotten what food is for' takes the opportunity for a backward glance. Lamenting the disappearance of school kitchens and cookery lessons, she slams the food industry's drive towards 'segmentation' - an attempt to boost sales that ends up increasing our waistlines. With the introduction of 'a proliferation of new labels' including '[d]iet foods, lunchbox ingredients, gourmet lines, sumptuous treats, healthy options, organic', Orbach argues that 'we started to put more food in our baskets than we used to, losing a proper sense of our hunger and how to satisfy it. Shoppers, it seems, have got used to buying low-fat to feel virtuous, then rewarding themselves for their virtue by buying fat-saturated "treats".'

Unimpressed by the actions of the past, Orbach is no more hopeful for the Government's current agenda, arguing that 'what's missing in the Change4Life mix is any attempt to understand what food means to people. Food is not only fuel, or calories in and calories out. It is our first and most fundamental emotional experience, which we turn to for all sorts of comforts. Endlessly exhorted to lose weight, we've been numbed by nagging and blinded by incentives until food is a source of anxiety and fear.'
Dismissing the media obsession with 'obesity epidemics', Orbach agrees with Turner that 'we've lost the capacity to know when we are hungry, how to eat with relish and to stop when we are full.'

So there's your answer - eat when you're hungry. Off you go and do just that.

Welcome Judi!

Trish.. You can do it! and walking to the store counts as exercise! I have calorie king book and working on miles..1 mile=20 min...2 miles=35 minutes 4 miles=60 minutes. Hope this helps and keep on walking!!

I have been snacking plenty this week and the weight is up..It is okay, but need to stay focus and doing my best on choosing fruits/veggies. It is more healthier. and listening to my hunger signal,Had lost touch this week.

Enjoy your weekend all!