so I'm back from my WI and the scale showed I lost 1.4 lbs. My coach was surprised I lost this little and has put me on booth camp for the week to shake things up (no restrictives or restrictive veggies this week) or she suggested I do phase II which allows 8 more oz of meat at lunch!
I opted to stay away from the restrictives.
I'll give it another shot, wish me luck folks and thanks again for all the suggestions. This thread went beyond what I expected.
OH and I lost 2 inches.
thanks Dana, will post my WI when I get back, going soon but not anxious to go
Before I saw the last post I was about to say, this is a good sign. Don't ask me why.
One thing I have done since coming on here is spending a lot of time looking at the weight loss patterns and numbers for people close in height to me with a comparable amt of weight to lose. What I saw was that it was consistently slower than others with much less weight loss per weigh in. It gave me a ballpark for how long I might be on this. I am on this with DH who has quite a bit more weight to lose and is just dropping pounds by the second (slight exageration) We eat the same things for dinner. I am often hungry. He is not.
This diet was originally created for athletes to get back in tip top shape for the season. I don't think they had large amts of weight or inches to lose.
I just think everyone is different. I am someone who used to be low 100's for a long time. I was not underweight or unhealthy. It was just what I was able to do in my 20's. But, those days are long gone. This is the first diet where I have had some faith I could maybe get down below my previous low (mine is 131) but already my shirts are looser. Something resembling a shape is returning and I am just so thankful for that. Waist...I really miss ya.
I don't know how far I will go or how long I will stay on it. But, this does seem to be a lifestyle choice rather than just getting into smaller clothes this summer. I want to be healthier and have more energy and just feel like me. If I get to my current goal, I will go futher, maybe.
Congratulations Trinique125, you did it. You passed your plateau. That was no small feat.
The suggestions in here were amazing. The ladies (and gents too) on this site really know what they are talking about. This is the first diet ever that I had seen so much success and support and knowledge and RESULTS!!!. I looked around at others. Some required a shake that made me gag. Some required points which I just don't do. Math...bleh. Life is supposed to be fun. Eating is fun. And the recipe suggestions I have seen have really helped.
This is an awesome thread for when/if this happens to anyone else and it will. We are only human.
I've been following this thread since yesterday. I feel I need to defend those that are like me that want to lose the extra 10-20 lbs that seem impossible at times to lose.
I don't think you have to defend anything at all. First of all, this is your choice and no singularly peculiar, busy body moralist -- who apparently knows next to nothing about the program, if not less -- shouldn't set a standard for you. Secondly, if you were sitting in Paris, and decided to do the program through Dr Chanh's office there, you would probably be the norm. I wish you the very best and think you've made a wise decision.
Trinique, I'm a little curious. IP boot camp used to be 4 packets a day plus all the vegetables, salads, oil, supplements, water, etc. Is that how your coach is defining it? And I also think you made a wise choice. The kind of research Bailey did might reassure you, too. Go take a look at the weight losses in the Valentine challenge and see what other's your weight are losing, minus those on their first week. And if you're really curious, go back and look at the 8 weeks of the New Years' Challenge. VERY revealing. Cheers to both of you.
I apologize if my comments about being on it for 20 lbs weight loss were offensive. I want to point out that I said, more power to anyone who wants to try IP diet at whatever size. Body image is a very personal thing and far be it for me to decide. More importantly, for all we know the conventional wisdom on proper nutrition that has been propagated by government, may just be incorrect as proposed by Tran. If we look at the obesity rate in the USA, it indicates that something is very wrong with our concept of nutrition. Don't get me started on a rampage against the food industry, lol. Some people are mad at oil companies, some are mad at Wall St and banks, my pet peeve is Monsanto and the food industry holding hands with the USDA and Congress. Even the ridiculous pizza classification as a vegetable recently so that the food industry could continue to sell the crap to obese school children. Did I say don't get me started?
To sum it up most everyone on IP Diet feels better, has had more success than any other diet they've tried, and they're happy! How can you beat that? I heard the other day that Dolly Pardon said she maintains a high protein, low carb, low fat diet to maintain her tiny physique. I believe that in order to maintain, I'll be doing the same.
Also, please note that in the video about IP, Tran explains that losing weight slowly does not imply that it will be gained back slowly nor losing fast implies gaining fast. IP is not a cure for obesity. Naturally if you return to former eating patterns after you phase off, you will regain the weight. *I think* the correlation between slow weight loss and maintainability is the length of time the improved eating and exercising became more ingrained pattern.
I don't think you have to defend anything at all. First of all, this is your choice and no singularly peculiar, busy body moralist -- who apparently knows next to nothing about the program, if not less -- shouldn't set a standard for you. Secondly, if you were sitting in Paris, and decided to do the program through Dr Chanh's office there, you would probably be the norm. I wish you the very best and think you've made a wise decision.
Trinique, I'm a little curious. IP boot camp used to be 4 packets a day plus all the vegetables, salads, oil, supplements, water, etc. Is that how your coach is defining it? And I also think you made a wise choice. The kind of research Bailey did might reassure you, too. Go take a look at the weight losses in the Valentine challenge and see what other's your weight are losing, minus those on their first week. And if you're really curious, go back and look at the 8 weeks of the New Years' Challenge. VERY revealing. Cheers to both of you.
I agree, I have lost a lot more weight than my daughter, but then again she "only" needs to loose 30 pounds while I want to loose 130 pounds. I average about 3.25 per week. My daughter looses 1 to 2 pounds per week. As we all know the closer to goal the slower the weight loss can be.
Trinique, congrats on your weight loss. It looks like you have pushed past your plateau.
I don't think you have to defend anything at all. First of all, this is your choice and no singularly peculiar, busy body moralist -- who apparently knows next to nothing about the program, if not less -- shouldn't set a standard for you. Secondly, if you were sitting in Paris, and decided to do the program through Dr Chanh's office there, you would probably be the norm. I wish you the very best and think you've made a wise decision.
Trinique, I'm a little curious. IP boot camp used to be 4 packets a day plus all the vegetables, salads, oil, supplements, water, etc. Is that how your coach is defining it? And I also think you made a wise choice. The kind of research Bailey did might reassure you, too. Go take a look at the weight losses in the Valentine challenge and see what other's your weight are losing, minus those on their first week. And if you're really curious, go back and look at the 8 weeks of the New Years' Challenge. VERY revealing. Cheers to both of you.
I was told it was only 3 packets a day, when I suggested a fourth package she did not reply, she just said to try the 3 this week and see what happens. That's really really low carb though so I'll see how the week goes.
I agree, I have lost a lot more weight than my daughter, but then again she "only" needs to loose 30 pounds while I want to loose 130 pounds. I average about 3.25 per week. My daughter looses 1 to 2 pounds per week. As we all know the closer to goal the slower the weight loss can be.
Trinique, congrats on your weight loss. It looks like you have pushed past your plateau.
thanks Dana, guess I just have to accept the fact that this might be a slow process for me
I was told it was only 3 packets a day, when I suggested a fourth package she did not reply, she just said to try the 3 this week and see what happens. That's really really low carb though so I'll see how the week goes.
I'm so sorry. I didn't explain boot camp very clearly. It's 4-5 packets and no solid protein a day, like meat or fish. Just making sure you get at least 90 grams of protein. And you don't do it for more the 4 or 5 days. With good green vegetables and lots of Romaine and cider vinegar, if you're using it, you should get about 25 grams of carbs. That's plenty for boot camp. I try to stay at 30 or under every day.
More importantly, for all we know the conventional wisdom on proper nutrition that has been propagated by government, may just be incorrect as proposed by Tran. If we look at the obesity rate in the USA, it indicates that something is very wrong with our concept of nutrition. Don't get me started on a rampage against the food industry, lol. Some people are mad at oil companies, some are mad at Wall St and banks, my pet peeve is Monsanto and the food industry holding hands with the USDA and Congress. Even the ridiculous pizza classification as a vegetable recently so that the food industry could continue to sell the crap to obese school children. Did I say don't get me started?
Oh, boy, we are SO in the same camp. And might I add to that the professional nutritionists one pays to tell them to eat carbs and gain weight? You might like some of the things Dr. Michael Eades has to say about USDA, et alia, if you haven't run into him before.
I think it's nice that you also mentioned the myth of fast off/fast back on. This program is FOUR phases that lead ultimately to a healthy lifestyle. It is NOT a diet. OK, and my rant is over.
A great book I would recommend to anyone who is interested in why low carb way of eating is best is Why We Are Fat: And What to Do About It by Gary Taubes.
Taubes is a science writer and I don't think I have ever read a book with so many case studies in it. He doesn't start the book saying low carb is best, but he does make a strong case as the book goes along. The nice thing is that he isn't trying to sell anything, other than his book, lol. If you are into nutrition at all then it's a must read.
A great book I would recommend to anyone who is interested in why low carb way of eating is best is Why We Are Fat: And What to Do About It by Gary Taubes.
Taubes is a science writer and I don't think I have ever read a book with so many case studies in it. He doesn't start the book saying low carb is best, but he does make a strong case as the book goes along. The nice thing is that he isn't trying to sell anything, other than his book, lol. If you are into nutrition at all then it's a must read.
That book was amazing! I highly recommend it for all on IP - it's a fast read and packed with info.
Even the ridiculous pizza classification as a vegetable recently so that the food industry could continue to sell the crap to obese school children. Did I say don't get me started?
First, I must state I take issue with the government's nutrition guidelines. If I ate that way, I would be as big as a house! However, I must clarify the statement "Even the ridiculous pizza classification as a vegetable..."
Congress did not declare pizza as a vegetable. In the appropriations bill the fight was over the tomato paste/sauce. Specifically how much constituted a serving of vegetables. It was being given 'extra credit' counting an 1/8 of a cup with as much nutritional value as a full cup of vegetables.
I wish you the very best and think you've made a wise decision.
