Diabetes and Prediabetes Chat for Fall 2021

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  • https://www.smchealth.org/sites/main...fact_fiber.pdf

    See if this link works, Trish. I am on Wi-Fi in the dealership.

    For some reason my blood sugar is extremely high so I am trying to do very low carb today. I hope it goes down. I refuse to do insulin or even a different med. It did not do this before with fiber. I will do zero carb if I have to. Walking Should help.

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  • Carol Sue Sorry aboiut your BS going up. It is probably just a fluctuation. Mine did that years ago when I started eating high fiber. I thought oatmeal caused my blood sugar to go up I never thought it could have been something I put in it. Funny thing is that now oatmeal doesn't seem to cause that problem.

    Yes, I can open the link. Thanks for sharing it. I will read it.

    I listen to and watched a FB video of Dr. Gundy talking about gut health and probiotics, prebiotics and butyrate and how they affect the gut. I have decided to read more about that type of food. I ordered a kindle book on FODMAP and see how that may relate.

    I am going to attempt to not eat anything else today so my day will be only a 2MAD. I ended up with more calories than I should have so I would like to fast until Brunch tomorrow.
  • Casino was good. I ate a salad, so all I had today was scrambled eggs, no toast, and the salad. I'm hungry but too bad. It won't kill me.

    The first week of doing high fiber my blood sugar was lower than usual. After that I think I was eating too much bread and potatoes plus the pasta DH eats for lunch. That has no fiber. Blood sugar has been extremely high for over a week and I can't get it down. It comes down a little but then I eat something I shouldn't and it spikes back up. The oatmeal is fine and so I'd the fruit. Its low fiber carbs.

    I do t think you are diabetic anymore. Your blood sugars have been really good.

    I'm tired and going to bed.



  • Carol Sue I'm glad you had a good day at the casino.

    I noticed in the past that if I eat too many starchy carbs that my blood sugar would be higher than it is when I don't. We have to watch and see what is causing it to rise.

    I read the chapters in the book on FODMAP that explained it all and how it works but it is confusing because like everthing else these days they say you can eat some things Dr. Gundry and other say not to. So not sure how it really works. Although Dr. Gundry does some people can eat things that counteract the lectin. I will research it a little more tomorow. Of course he has a suppliment you can take that helps with it and I did read reviews on it on Amazon. It doesn't work for everybody but over 50% say it does. But I'm not sure I want another suppliment to take.

    Getting tired so going to bed. I have beauty shop in the morning and then going to local store.
  • Trish, I've read some of Dr Gendrys information but here is an article that says most lectins are inactive once cooked and most people don't have to worry about them.

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...ients/lectins/

    I didn't sleep well which is not unusual after being at the casino so late. And weight is only down .2 to 188. even though I didn't eat much. I know that weight is usually higher when I get weighed this early but it wouldn't be a big difference. Blood sugar is still higher than it should be. Carbs usually make it spike but I dont usually have this much trouble bringing it back down. Its my own fault, but I hope I haven't burned out my pancreas.

    I always like Friday because we go to Rodneys. They have so many delicious low carb choices. I just have to stay away from carbs until then.

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    Ok. I got on the scale now and its usually lower later in the morning. Nope! Back up to 188.2. I realize I'm talking about .2 lb. I am obsessed about scale weight. I had this discussion on Twitter and someone told me to throw away the scale. I can't. I have been weighing myself since my first adult weight gain at 21 years old. I can't not know what I weigh. I'm so afraid if I don't weigh I will gain 20 lbs and not know it. I don't understand people who don't weigh.

    This morning I've been reading how sugar is poison and is killing us. This makes me wonder about DH and his younger brother. DH eats so much sugar but at least he eats other things, like meat, fish and vegetables. But not his brother. He claims he cannot eat any meat or vegetables. He eats all junk food. He says he gets stomach pain and constipation from regular food. Cakes, cookies, pretzels all bought with food stamps. So why is he still here in his 70s? He goes to the doctor regularly, but the only thing he's been diagnosed with is high blood pressure. His doctor tells him what to eat and to lose weight but he ignores her. I don't understand how his body is actually operating with no nutrition at all.

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    I'm back! I just checked blood sugar again. It has not budged from early this am after taking meds, but I've had black coffee and it does affect my blood sugar. I now ate some scrambled eggs. Wondering if it will come down now with no carbs. I think I still love my scrambled eggs. I'm afraid to eat oatmeal.

  • As for Dr. Gundry’s suppliments I could get them although expensive but I am for working things out naturally on my own wherever possible. I will keep eating doing what I am doing and let my body adjust. Keeping a record on MFP and printing it out will help me to know what I eat that causes the potty issues. Then I can either not eat them any more or learn to eat less often. He mentioned Almonds being good to eat to help with it and since I’ve switched to almond milk, maybe that will be helpful.

    I was able to get the multigrain cherrios so I ate a bowl of that with some strawberries and yogurt in it. I did buy some FF H&H because I want to try making my own FF yogurt. I still love my eggs for breakfast too which I can althernate eating with my oatmeal from time to time. The MG Cherrios came in handy for a quick breakfast when I got home from the beauty shop and store. Of course, I didn’t bother with eggs today.

    My weight was up 1 lb to 187.6. I thought it was just because I weighed earlier but probably not since I’ve been getting up early lately. I was only up 30 minutes earlier than usual so probably was sodium or maybe just the Fritos. That is one of those foods that I won’t be buying or eating very often. FBG was 99 so that is good.

    I don’t know how some people eat junk and stay healthy either but they do. I’ve seen people do that and then in their last days it seems to catch up with them. My boss who I worked for when I worked in “in home care” of elderly used to tell me that old people seemed to have iron stomachs and able to handle things that would make most of us sick. So go figure.

    Right now my calories are figured to a little over 1000 calories, but then the day isn’t over. I have a planned supper to get to that 1000 calories and that plan could change. Still even with the protein shake, I’m not getting the protein I supposedly need. But that is why I’m trying to eat less fat.

    Have a good day.
  • We went to Rodneys and I had fried fish. I chose that because I only had 272 calories for today. I had Cole slaw with it, no bun. I came home and had a few pecans. It came out a little below 1000 calories so I fudged it so MFP would accept it. I had 40 GM of carb for the day. Now I will check blood sugar around 8 pm to see how it is. I hope its ok. I think my days of 99 blood glucose are long gone.

    On the way home I stopped and got my haircut. I love this haircut.

    Cheerios have been my favorite cereal since I was a small child and I still buy them occasionally. I never tried MG.
  • I ended up with 1234 calories today. So that is a good day.

    Carol Sue I hope your blood sugar came back down. DH was high this morning too. Not sure why. I still don't know why it goes up someti mes. Even with mine being lower, I still have days when it goes up higher. Not as high as it used to be but sitll up. It is just a reminder to me that I have to stay on top of it or it could go up again.

    I always liked cherrios but wasn'tbut my favorite, just discovered the MG this year and I really do like it.

    Hoping for a good nights sleep again tonight. I dozed some today but I got up so early. However, the 2 nights that got that really good sleep, I didn't nap at all the next day.

    Goodnight.
  • Blood sugar is 136 this morning. I can live with that for now. I think I need to use up the glucose in my liver to get it lower. Just to let you know, its been over 300 the past few days and would not come down below 250. And that's with carbs below 60 grams. Its been very scary.

    Weight was 186 this morning . I'm doing good with eating and headed for a 19 hour fast but now DH wants to go out for breakfast. %#&!?.

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    That worked out. By the time we found a restaurant that wasn't too crowded it was 10:30 and we got our food at 11. So I got my 19 hour fast in. I ate more than I would have at home but it was good. I had a veggie omlette. DH took my potatoes.

    At Wal-Mart I bought steak for tonight. I don't want to go out and battle crowds again. I will not eat again til dinner and will have steak and broccoli.
  • Carol Sue That was high, I wonder what you were eating that caused it to go so high? I am finding that the small amount of grains a little higher carbs is not raising my FBG but keeping it low. It was 97 this morning. I'm glad it came back down. DH told me yesterday that his had jumped up to 188 one day this week. I told him he needs to look at what he has eaten the past day or two. I hope you both can get it back down and keep it down.

    I lost .8 lb this week. My weight is 186.6 lbs today. I thought about Pipsicle when I wrote down my weight because if Monday had been my WI day my weight would have been 190 lbs. Then it bounced between 187 and 186 range the rest of the week to end on 186.6 on my WI day today. I also noticed that the time of day has a lot to do with it too. I weigh less earlier than I do later. Perhaps that is why I've been waking up and getting up about an hour earlier than I was there for a while. I love the fact that I mostly sleep good most nights and wake up ready to get up. Any way, I thank God for the .8 lb loss and that I am back down to 186.6. Hope I can at least see 185 next week.

    I've started planning our main meal on MFP before I plan my breakfast and whether I will have another meal or a snack later. I still try to stay under 1400 on the high calorie days but lower near the 1000 to 1200 most days. I try to spread them out so I don't get the high days on consecutive days. I think I had 2 together this week which may have contributed to DH high BG reading because mine was above 100 that day too. I decided to plan the main meal first so I can work harder at keeping the thelories in other meals low enough not to go over 1400 cals. It seems to be working.

    I decided not to get Dr. Gundry's suppliment because I'm not sure it is good to block lectin altogether because they also have benefits in them. I think I need to just learn to not eat a lot of them. It seems from what I have read that eating them cooked is better. I would miss tomatoes in my salad but I could switch to just green salads or make soups to eat instead of a salad of raw veggies.

    Have a nice day everybody.
  • Trish, I think Dr Gundry is full of boloney! But you make whatever changes you think are best.

    The problem with my blood sugar could have been candy and cookies. Lots of them. But normally when I get a spike that high I can get it back down. I couldn't this time. That's what was scary. It was not fasting, it was random. I don't do fasting blood sugar because I worry more about what it does after eating. Now that I'm back to longer fasts I hope to get it under control.

    I don't plan on MFP because I never know what we will eat for dinner. This time I know because I planned the steaks. My breakfast was higher than normal but total calories are only coming to 963. I will get it over 1000 so I can enter it. I am happy with this. Now if I can just continuel!! I'm not getting any hunger or cravings. I prayed for this. I think the high blood sugar scared me straight.



  • Carol Sue I agree with you about Dr. Gundry. In fact, I read that the lectin diet is just another fad diet that is out there. I've done enough of those that got me no where. So I will keep doing what I'm doing. I will do this the way I've done with my bs. I have kind of learned what I can and cannot eat to control bs so I will have to be more mindful what foods are causing potty issues. I do know people who can't eat too much fiber and I think I have figured out that while I can handle about 18 to 20 g of fiber that I seem to have a little bit of a problem if I go up to of over 21 g. I think that is going to be another one of those times when it does not fit for all.

    Actually checking bs after I ate was how I learned what I could and couldn't eat so I could learn to control my FBG. So you I am sure you will be fine.
  • Trish, I know what I can't eat to control blood sugar but I still eat them. The problem points back to me, I'm afraid. I test after eating so I know how much G I need. I have never figured out how G works. I think I should be taking it an hour before I eat because I think it takes a while to start working. I seem to forget to take it then blood sugar goes too high for it to work. It just says to take it twice a day with meals but no details. If I would eat properly I would not need it.

    I'm going to try very hard to continue eating at 11-12 and 4-5. That schedule seems to work best for me. I don't even want to call it IF. Just my way of eating. Once my body gets used to eating at those times that's when it will want food. My breakfast is around 300 calories and that leaves 700+ for dinner. I will incorporate enough fiber to keep potty issues at bay.

    Actually, my potty issues go away when I eat fiber. Sometimes too much. But when I'm trying to increase fiber I'm stuffing myself and over eating. My potty issues came back the past 2 days when I went low carb to lower blood sugar. So I have to find a happy medium. But I really don't think the fiber foods raised blood sugar. It was when I started snacking on cookies and candy, and eating Pastaroni that DH made.

    I think eating low carb made me more carb sensitive. I used to be able to eat way more carb and keep control of blood sugar.

    My weight is up .6 today to 186.6 but still in the 186 range. I am so happy that I seem to be firmly in the lower decade. Goodbye forever 190.
  • Carol Sue I do understand your dilemma as I have or have had the same experiences you have had or are having. To be honest that is why I allow myself to have some of the things I really want and count the calories. This way I'm not saying I can't have them which would only make me want them more. Then by the time I finally give in I end up binging on them. So while it slows down my weight loss and raises my FBS a little, it doesn't cause me big problems. In fact, that is why my weight loss is so slow right now because DH is on a popcorn kick and I measure out about 1 to 2 c serving and eat if for supper.

    This morning I ate a low carb brunch no starchy carb and immediately after I had some of the abdominal discomfort and had to go potty. Not potty issues I thought I was going to have but close. In fact, the potty issues I experienced on the trip was after eating only eggs and bacon for breakfast. This has made me think I need the toast to keep from having those problems. Plus it makes me actually wonder lately if there is something about eating extreme low carb that attributes to the potty issues for some people like me experience. I would rather keep a few starchy carbs in my eating plan if it keeps me from having those problems. In fact, when I am experiencing those problems it makes me afraid to go anywhere because I never know when it is going to hit me.

    I am not necessarily worrying about IF hrs of eating and fasting. Most days I stay within 6 to 8 hrs, but there are days that it may go longer especially since I try to eating intuitively as well because I am trying to learn when I am truly hungry an when I'm not.

    Weight stayed the same 186.6 so today we weigh the same Carol Sue. I am so thankful I/we are out of the 190s. I thought it was going to weigh what I weighed the day before WI day at 187.4, but decided to weight again after going potty and there was no gain. That is great because I used to gain at least 1 lb the day after eating pizza. However, the thing I did yesterday was that I weighed every thing I put on the pizza.

    Your beef roast cooked in the mushroom soup sounded so good that I am cooking it for today.

    Have blessed Sunday Everybody!
  • Trish, that's so funny that we both weigh 186.6 today!

    I finished the book about the 5 women who kept losing and regaining. From this I have come to the conclusion that we have to lose slowly, following a plan we can do for the rest of our lives. If you diet, thinking you can add foods back in after you reach goal you are doomed to fail. This is why I will not do strict low carb, because I never want to eliminate them. I will limit them to control blood sugar but still eat them from time to time. I know they cause cravings for more carbs but I will try to control that.

    I bought some MG Cheerios and tried them but they are too sweet for me. I will mix them in with my regular Cheerios to use them up. I don't think DH will eat them because it says 5 whole grains in big letters on the front of the box. Too healthy for him .

    I love popcorn but never think of it for a fiber snack. DGS quit boy scouts so we can't get it from him anymore.

    Over the past week I saw 2 prior coworkers from years past. They were very thin back then but now have gained, one gained a lot! I didn't feel so bad having them see that I gained, too. I guess misery loves company!

    I can't believe it took me this long to find something that works for me.