Scale is finally back down to 189. I'm starting over. I was relatively successful with not eating after dinner. I did eat a couple pretzels. My doctors appointment and bloodwork are a month from today and I don't think I made any improvements in the past 6 months. That makes me sad and disappointed in myself. 6 months wasted. I had such good intentions.

I'm reading another book about plant based. Trish, I have to find some way to send you a copy of the menu plan in the back of the book. It starts off the day with 2 cups of oatmeal. 2 cups!! It lists nutritional information at the end but does not show fiber.

When I read this info about plant based I'm convinced that its the way to go. Then I read about carnivore and it changes my mind. I think about eating all that steak! But I only like the steaks I cook at home. Thin cut NY strip steak from Walmart. Restaurant steaks just don't do it for me. I only use garlic salt. They seem to use seasonings that I don't like. DH prefers restaurant steaks over the ones at home. I think he likes the atmosphere more than the food. I guess the best thing for me to do is combine the two, eat meat and vegetables.

Carol Sue I am sorry about your DBIL. I do believe once you have covid that your natur al antibodies protect you more than the vaccine does. So I pray he will be able to do the shots. They have a new way of doing those hots where they use something from your own body (sorry can't remember what it is) but the body accepts the shots better than what they used to infect. DS had it done and I understand that if you have someone who knows what they are doing it isn't even painful. I hope all goes well for him.

I am back on low carb today. I'm not doing well with the higher fiber and read it isn't for everybody. I plan to try to keep my protein up where it should be and get my fiber mostly from fruits and vegetables with little or no grains. I know others who can't tolerate much of it and I think I must be one of those. I'm not big on the high fat either but the only way I know how to continue tracking on MFP is to set the carbs around 25% and the protein high enough for 90 g which I think was about 30 or 35% and the rest will be fat although I won't use it all. I'm not going to eat a lot of grains any more. It tears up my digestive system.

Weight is back up to 190 lbs yesterday and today. FBG is still good at 103 this morning so thankful for that. I am going to go back to using the Premier Protein shake to get my protein up to 90 so I don't have to eat at night. I'll just have the shake for supper and try to do that within a 8 hr eating window. My goal is to keep my calories withn 1200 to 1400 using the 1400 for the times I have to eat higher cals.

I've decided that if I have to I will go back on WW. I've just come too far to let myself gain back what I've lost. I want to keep losing weight even if it is slow. It is better to maintain that to gain.

Have a nice day Everybody.

Trish, I'm sorry the higher fiber isn't working for you. Your fiber has always been higher than mine though. There were times when mine was under 10 gm. I have settled in at medium fiber which is more than before. I like eating the small portion of oatmeal as it keeps me feeling satisfied much longer. I waited til 11 am to eat and I had a small portion of oatmeal and scrambled eggs, toast. I cooked my eggs in spray rather than butter which saved me some calories and fat grams. I am also eating more fruits and vegetables which are lower calorie but higher fiber and filling.

My weight gain was not from fiber. I did well when I first started adding it. But the past few days I was eating a lot of junk food. Potato chips and pretzels, and oatmeal cookies, which I can blame on you, Trish! You mentioned the cookies you bought and I had to buy some too. The power of suggestion. They were cheap Wal-Mart oatmeal cookies that were mostly sugar and fat. I think I will probably throw them out because even DH doesn't want them. I think if I get back to the extra vegetables and fruit I was eating I will start to lose again.

Here is some information that I read today. The book is about success or failure from bariatric surgery but it has good general information. It says that the fullness sensors are at the top of your stomach. When full, they send the message to your brain that you are full, leading your body to properly process your food. If you don't eat until you are full your body never gets that message so it tries to hold onto what you gave it. I'm paraphrasing, naturally. People who graze, like I used to, never get full. They eat a little bit at a time which satisfies the hungry feeling but doesn't send the full message. They end up taking in more calories than they would by eating 3 meals to satisfaction. It explains how the small pouch from the surgery causes the full message sooner. From this I am surmising that eating lots of fibrous fruits and vegetables would give us the full message with fewer calories. Maybe that's why so many diet plans tell us to eat 2 cups of salad and half of our plate of vegetables.

I don't know how this relates to a very low carb diet with little or no fiber. It is said that eating protein and fat eventually makes you lose you appetite and you don't get hungry. I'm not discounting that theory. Just adding a,different slant. Many low carbers do include vegetables but some would not eat any. We are all different. One plan does not suit all.

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I made the mistake of eating some of the Pastaroni DH had for his lunch. I really like that stuff but it doesn't have anything of the things I need in my diet. By tracking on MFP I can see things that can be omitted.

We have not eaten out for a while. Eating out is really better for me. When I eat at home I eat too many things that DH likes and not what I want. Today we are going to Applebees where I can get an Oriental Chicken Salad. Then to Wal-Mart and possibly Goodwill. Over all it has been a good day today.
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I learned something else over the weekend. The day I made the roast, potatoes and corn I felt it was so delicious that I wrapped it all up and put it in the refrigerator. Same with the augratin potatoes I made. I figured I would eat it next day. It all still sits in the refrigerator, uneaten. I have no interest in any of it now. This tells me that even when something is DELICIOUS I can eat what I want and throw the rest away. That is something that is very hard for me to do, but its something I can learn. There will always be new food to eat!

HI friends: sorry to have been MIA for so long. I have not been doing well with my weight and am now 165 as of this am. It has been hovering there for a week, so I can't say its a temporary thing. I have not done well lately and am way too fond of sweets. I have not been successfully fasting either, but today seems ok. I have made it to 8 pm and will head to bed soon.

I may just continue the fast tomorrow, I will see. DH is away, and so I am on my own here with the dog for a few days. I have cleared almost everything from the fridge so there is very little to tempt me here.


I hope everyone is well. My former midwifery practice partner (long retired) has died of Covid19. She and her husband passed away within a few hours of each other. The family denies it was Covid19. They were part of a church group that is anti-vax and sees Covid19 as a conspiracy. They don't mask at church and have large gatherings.

So many elderly people have died. The group denies its covid, they all mysteriously get "pneumonia" and die. It is so upsetting. She had led a good life at least, but I do worry for her sons and grandchildren who attend the same church.


But I go on. While you are both struggling a bit as well, the weights are about the same as when I last checked in. Well done in maintaining at least. Losing is hard, but so is maintaining.


Have a good week everyone.

So good to hear from you Mad. You might have read that I had a dream that you posted. I'm sure you will get your weight back down. I lose a few but regain, in a maintenance pattern of a sort.

Sorry to hear of the Covid deaths of people you know. We are only having occasional deaths here now. They say it will never be gone.

Fatmad It is so good to hear from you. Sorry you are struggling with the weight, but I'm sure you will get it moving again. I'm so sorry to hear of the covid deaths of your business partner and others in her church group.

I've had a good eating day today. I stayed within 7 hr eating window and kept my calories, carbs, protein and fat balanced and within plan. ! day successful. medicine is ready for us to pick up tomorrow so we will be going to Sam's for tomatoes and fish and a few other things. Then we will go to Walmart and get meds and a few food that we need. He wants KFC for lunch so I may not eat until we get back tomorrow with the chicken and make tomorrow a OMAD.

Good night.

Trish,,I am glad you are back on plan. You always don't so easily. I'm sure you will soon be back to losing.

I slept very well last night and Fitbit thought so too. They gave me a score of 89 which is the best I've had. I dreamed about food.

This is my first day eating the quick cooking steel cut oats. It makes more finished product so I will have to cook less. I will try it with some vanilla whey protein tomorrow if I think of it. I also had scrambled eggs.

I got the salad at Applebees but the chicken had seasoning I didnt like. I don't remember that from last time. I brought the chicken home and Rusty liked it!

Weight back down to 187.2 lbs and FBG 96. I know the weight is water weight loss but down is down. The FBG tells me I'm on the right track. I looked up WW Green plan and the free foods are fruits, non-starchy vegetables although there are a few allowed I always thought were starchy but I think the difference now is GL/GI effects. Which means I could still eat corn, carrots and peas.

I am not going to be doing WW green plan per se but it certainly is a good basis and guidelines because I am counting calories on MFP not points working to stay below 1400 calories. However, it does mean that just like you can eat what you want as long as you count the pts for the foods that are not zero points, I can do the same except I'm counting calories of everything.

The problem I am having right now is getting calories up to MFP minimum 1000 calories. In fact today I had to stretch it to get just over 1000 calories. But that is probably because I am not eating breakfast today because we are getting KFC. I am going to make myself a small salad before we leave. I will nuke some frozen zucchini when I get back. I will make myself a protein shake with fruit tonight for supper to get the calories up to the 1000. I won't really get to 1000 because I'm drinking SF carnation creamer in my coffee which has less calories than Walmart brand, it contnued using the Walmart count. I mean I only needing about 20 calories to get to 1000 today.

Carol Sue Using the WW green plan for my basis, I can still have the oatmeal from time to time and still be OP. How did you like the quicker steel cut oats. I have those too and like them. I think more low carbers eat the steele cut. I've never looked to see if they are lower carb or not. I am working to keep my net carbs between 50 to 75 but sometimes they will go over unless I learn to make some homemade low carb recipes. The only problem I have there is how to track on MFP.

Fatmad I hope your fast went well. I'm not trying to push my fasts too much but I do want to get to the place to where I never eat outside of an 8 hr eating window and then filter in some longer fasts in between. Today my liquid fasts (coffee has creamer) will be at least 21 hrs before we get home with the KFC. So I figure that 20 or 21 hrs will probably be the longest fast I will ever do. I know you did great there for a long time with EF and maybe you will again, but for now it is probably good to listen to what your body needs. The only problem I find doing that is to not late my want of the taste of something to override the knowledge of whether I am really hungry or not. I like what I read in the book Delay not Deny. I am trying to remind myself that I can have it when I do get hungry if I really do want it so I don't have to eat it now.

Hope everybody has a great day.

Trish, the quick steel cut oats were not as good as what they have at Bob Evans. I don't know what kind they use or what they put in it. But I will use it and not waste it.

I dozed most of the evening. I don't know why since I slept good. I am trying to force myself to stay up later.

I have to get some longer fasts in. I'm still eating too much. I never get hungry.

I'm not sure what time we ate. Probably around 3:30 so my fast was 19 1/2 hrs and my eating window 3 hrs. And then tonight I blew it and I didn't have a successful OP day after all. I won't say what I ate because I don't want to temp anyone. Tomorrow will be a new day and I hope to make it better than today.

The KFC was not very good as it was old and the crust was too tough almost like they had refried it or it had set on the heat too long. I couldn't even chew some of it.

I decided to buy some avocados in bulk. Even if they ruin they were cheaper than buying just 2 or 3. I also got some fresh mushrooms. I like them and thought I could put them in an omelet or even in a taquito. I am making fruit my dessert at dinner. Trying to eat 2 or 3 fruits and then be sure to get plenty of veggies.

Carol Sue I've been getting plenty of sleep although not 8 hrs and sometimes not even 7. But when I wake up I am ready to get up. Then I take a nap in the afternoons. So hopefully I am getting the sleep its just all at once. I would to keep waking up t'hat way. There isn't any reason why I can't take a nap. Hope you can get a good nights sleep tonight too.

My sleep last night felt as good as yesterday but Fitbit rated it low. 89 yesterday, 68 today. Only 6 hours last night. I will probably nap again today. I wonder if fasting would help.

I'm still under 190, but just barely. 189.8. I didn't overeat according to MFP but I felt full. When I was eating high fiber I always felt full but I was losing. Its very easy to go back to my old WOE. I have a freezer full of frozen veggies but unfortunately they are the last thing I think to eat. I usually just use salt and butter spray on them but I think I will look up some recipes. That would get me to eat more, but would be more time consuming.

DH bought a rotisserie chicken yesterday and it was really good. I would like to go back to roasting my own because I know they inject them. But they are so cheap its hardly worth it to cook your own. I would like to get KFC again too. DH only wanted it when we were traveling to WVa but I would like to get it at home sometimes, too. We had it once when it tasted leftover. Yuk!

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I had quick steel cut oats, 1 fried egg and 1 slice of SL toast. I saved 100+ calories and 12 grams of fat by cooking the eggs in spray and no butter on my toast. DH always cooks eggs in butter. I'm iffy about the butter because I now think butter is healthy although I never used it in the past.

I will try this again. Weight and FBG was the same today as yesterday so thank God no damage from my little binge outside my eating window. So back on today. I had planned to have the left over chili today but I want to have Fritos in mine and that would be too much too much sodium after yesterday so I changed my mind. I also want to keep protein and carbs in check as well as the calories so we are having cod fish. My caleries today with be 1242, net carbs 67 g and protein 99 g, So sodium will be in line. I will plan the chili for another day and more balanced within the calories, etc.

Sam's is limiting paper goods so while we don't really need more normally, we bought the limit just in case there is any shortages. I even bought more frozen fish. With frozen food in the car, I didn't want to have to wait too long in Walmart pharmacy so we will get our shingle shots next week when we pick up meds DH will need to get then. I want to get the first one this month and the second one in December.

Carol Sue Glad you got a good nights sleep. I've been sleeping really good lately and wake up rested and ready to get up. I sure hope this is a result of my new woe and continues. I hope I start having more energy each day as well.

Ended up with a 10 hr eating window and calories a little over 1400. So still IF just longer eating window today. I have figured out my calories etc tomorrow so that we can have the chili without going so the sodium stays low. I barely got over 1000 calories for Thursday.

Trish, yesterday I ended up with 1400 calories in 7 hours and I was surprised with a nice drop of 1.6 lb. 188.2. First of all I got weighed 2 1/2 hours later. And my fiber was 28. I felt like I really ate a lot and I did, but being high fiber I got a drop. I felt a little hungry at bedtime and for a split second I thought about getting something to eat but I fell asleep. I fall asleep as soon as my head hits the pillow. I also realized I didn't take a nap yesterday and didn't even get sleepy.

Wal-Mart isn't limiting anything yet but their supply is low. Many empty bins. I bought extra toilet tissue and now I will start extra paper towels. We have lots of storage room in the basement. I'm not going to stock up on meat like I did last time. After the initial shortage I didnt have trouble getting it and DH doesn't like meat that's been frozen. He would rather eat a hamburger from Wendys than frozen steak. I think he imagines it because I use a food sealer. It is vacuum sealed. It tastes fine to me. Restaraunts freeze their food but he doesn't see it frozen so it doesn't bother him.

I want to eat scrambled eggs before we leave for the casino and take a break from oatmeal. We are stopping to get our car inspected on the way. That will take an hour then we get right on the interstate. I usually eat a salad at the casino if its not crowded I would like to walk the perimeter a couple times. I have some reading material on my Kindle. I'm all set.

Carol Sue Congrats on the 1.6 loss. Hope you have a great day at the casino whether you win or not. Hope you get to walk as I think that is good. I saw a lady at the Walmart that I went to church with for years. She and her now husbund and I were friends before we got married. She talked about how we used to see people we knew at the store but now they order and either pick up or have them delivered. She is like I am and wants to get out and walk the store. I am pretty sure she is in her 80s. Years ago when we ran around together she and I used to meet at a park where you could walk on a sidewalk for exercise and we would walk it together. She still drives and gets around pretty good. She is thin and I don't think she ever was over weight. She eats more like she probably did on the farm as a kid... beans, cornbread and greens. She met us at Cracker Barrel and that is what she ordered.

I've got my calories planned at about 1200 not balanced for higher protein today because of the chili with beans we are having. DH likes it more like a soup so that is why I had more left over. I even have the day figured so that my sodium isn't very high.

I'm going to have oatmeal instead of toast with my eggs and only 1 sl of bacon this morning.

Oh weight was down to 186.6 this morning. I am really excited that this is working. My fiber has been between 16 to 18 g each day and today will be 20. I am not sure I will ever be able to go higher but will see how it goes. I do know they say added slowly and maybe I was eating too much of it too fast. I actually always heard it should be 25 g for women and had never heard of 21 g for our age. I will take it easy because I don't want any problems.

Fatmad Hi if you still read and don't post.

Hope everybody has a great day!