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pattygirl63 05-03-2018 03:30 PM

I am pleased that my FBS was only 158 this morning which is what it was day before yesterday. My surprise was that my weight was down to 218.4 so I'm back under 220. I am so thankful for that. I want to keep that going down as well. I think I forgot to share that my bs reading before the fried chicken dinner was 104 so things are still looking good.

Carol Sue When DH and I married, I used to make pan fried chicken with no batter at all. It still had a good flavor and browned nicely. I should do that again as it doesn't take much oil to do it. I've also cooked it like your MIL did too and it is just as good and it doesn't take a lot of flour or oil. I think I'm going to get some whole wheat flour and start using it again for things like that. DH probably wouldn't know the difference and with him trying to get control of his bs he will be more receptive to it. Once he gets used to it he will be fine. He is finally so used to the Sara Lee Multigrain bread that he doesn't even like white bread any more.

We are having cod fish fillets today. I am hungry for a baked potato and Italian green beans. However, I got some pretty asparagus yesterday which I will steam and eat that with the potato. I bought some small potatoes for baking to keep the size small and I won't be tempted to eat a big one. I buy a few big potatoes to cut up for mashed potatoes or potato salad to share with DH. The green beans are canned so they will last longer than the asparagus. I'll probably make us a salad and then fix DH whatever veggies he wants. He is so picky that he only has a few things to choose from. He has some leftover Harvard beets from yesterday and I can add some peas with it.

I bet it won't be long until you get into the 180s Carol Sue. You are close. It will happen. I'm excited that we are learning what works for us individually. I have actually done 4 days of exercise this week too. I just expect things to keep going well for us. I realized today that perhaps I should have taken the dietician's and diabetic educator's advise last year and just kept doing what I was doing. They told me the way I was eating was a good plan and that everything would finally come together, but I kept thinking lower carb was the way to go for me. IT WAS NOT!!! I'm still not eating loads of carbs, but slightly moderate is working better for me. I'm just glad I've finally found the way for me.

Wannabehealthy 05-04-2018 10:06 AM

Trish, occasionally I will dust boneless skinless chicken tenders with some flour and fry them. DH will eat them, but since I am not used to frying chicken, I am never sure if it's done on the inside. I use the tenders because they are small and the chance of them not cooking on the inside is slight.

I did OK yesterday. I wasn't hungry for dinner since I ate lunch. DH got a gyro and breaded mushrooms from the local pizza shop for himself and gave some of it to me. I was angry with myself that I ate it even though I wasn't hungry and I actually didn't feel good afterwards. I know not to do that, but I have this problem that if food is actually set in front of me I usually eat it. It tasted good, but that's not what it's all about. That is what got me to 200 lbs with diabetes. I won't beat myself up and will just continue on, but I do wish I could break that habit.

Here is a WebMD quiz about walking if anyone is interested. I got 77%. There are also some more interesting items listed on the right hand side.

https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exerci...0yNm4PCC9sE%3d

fatmad 05-04-2018 04:16 PM

Finally had my appointment with the sleep doctor.
This is different than a clinic that checks CPAP etc. It was daytime, and they did a thorough assessment. Reviewed my meds, blood work, physical, questionnaires about depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc. A long a complete history of my insomnia taken. Took a full hour.
I can say it was worth the wait to get into this clinic and meet with this doctor, (and his resident, who did most of the workup of course)
I felt heard and listened to about these issues like never before.

I was surprised answering the questionnaires about depression and anxiety. I administer these to my own clients all the time. (like once during pregnancy at lease, and twice after the baby comes). I hadn't thought about it myself much, but I did score high on both depression and anxiety.
In talking about it I said, I'm not sure how much is because I am not sleeping, or I am not sleeping because of the depression and anxiety.

Then he offered me several options for treatment.

Feeling that these mental health issues are where we should focus our energy, he offered counselling and cognitive behavioural therapy, and some medication options. We went over my concerns and problems with other meds, and he offered something different to get started and the counselling for longer term. I am happy with the plan at that. Not only focused on drugs.
The med may have a side effect of increasing appetite, but I feel that I still eat the worst when I am tired, so I am hoping I can cope with any side effects if I am not exhausted all the times. I also think I can tackle diabetes issues better if I am sleeping better.

So, there I go. I hope to start early next week on the new medication.
Will let y'all know how it goes. Will be away for a bit too.
best wishes

Wannabehealthy 05-04-2018 10:51 PM

Mad, I hope this medication helps you and does not unwanted side effects! Good to hear that you got a thorough check up.

Wannabehealthy 05-06-2018 08:08 AM

Good morning, everyone. How is everyone today? I am feeling yukky. I have a sore throat and a runny nose, but I think it's more allergies than an actual cold. My lilacs are blooming like crazy and they are not far from the house. The door has been closed most of the time, but I guess the time it was opened was enough to effect me.

I just saw a recipe for Low Carb Peanut Butter Fudge that I'm going to try. I will have to buy some natural peanut butter and some granulated Splenda. I will make it and share it though, because even low carb, I don't want to eat too much. I have never made low carb recipes before.

Trish, that's good that your DH is getting used to the Sara Lee bread. It's good, and it's healthy compared to white bread. It's just a matter of your taste buds getting used to it. I was eating the Ezekial bread for a while but I went back to the Little Big Bread because it costs half as much. They are both sprouted grain, but I really think the Ezekial tastes better.

So how are you doing with your plan? How many carbs are you eating per day? Per meal? I had a lot of carbs yesterday. DH wasn't home at dinner time so I just made myself a cucumber sandwich. I love them, and he doesn't like me to eat them. He thinks too many cucumbers are not good for me so I eat them when he's not around. He says that because I was eating a lot of cucumbers right before I went to the ER when I needed my heart surgery, so he now thinks the cucumbers caused it. I used white bread for the sandwich, because I just think it goes better with the cucumbers. With lots of mayo. I enjoyed it.

We will probably go out to eat today. We haven't been out for a while.

We went over to step-son's and saw his renovations. They are done, except for a few finishing touches. It looks really nice. The living room and dining room are just all one big room now, with beautiful hard wood floors and vaulted wood ceiling. They don't have their dining room furniture in yet. It's at her mother's so they have to haul it over. The kitchen is nice, but it was nice before, too. They had pressed wood cabinets, but they were in very good condition and looked great. They replaced them with good wood cabinets that look exactly the same to me. I would have just got new counter tops. I didn't tell him that, though. It's what they wanted.

Have a great Sunday!!

pattygirl63 05-06-2018 02:01 PM

Carol Sue I'm sorry you aren't feeling well. I hope it is just an allergy and will pass. I love spring however that does seem to come with it. So far, I haven't had any problems, but DH does.

Carol Sue, I eat small amounts of English cucumbers in my salad each day because it keeps my joints from hurting. Too much of them gives me indigestion.

I gained weight because of eating too many carbs. I guess rather than starting with keto and adding carbs, I have eaten more carbs and removing them. It is difficult to be exact with the carbs on MFP because I don't eat as much as I usually show of some carbs. However, they are the non-starchy carbs so hopefully they don't count as much. My total carbs will be 83 today, but only 36 grams are starchy carbs. I've decided to go back to the FB CAD group so I will be eating my starchy carbs within the Carbohydrate Addict's Diet (CAD) suggested 60 minute Reward Meal (RM). To me the original CAD is so easy to do because you do 2 Complimentary Meal (CM) which are low carb meals, 1 RM and you can have 1 CS if you need a snack. The weight loss is slower, but then I'm not losing weight right now any way.

I'm going to stop reading all the diet info out there and just stick with this plan. It has worked for me before and like many of them say on the FB group, you don't feel deprived. Plus there is no eating off as long as I keep my starchy carbs within the 60 minute time period. I read yesterday where one person eats only when she is hungry (IE?). That was allowed in the original book. In fact, although it is recommended to eat all the meals and snack in some of the later books, Rachel Heller only ate 1 meal a day in the beginning which she tells about in the original book. In the original book, you ate the way that worked for you individually. Some people on that group eat every 4 hrs (IF?). I see that CAD can fit any plan you want to use it with plus it is a healthy way of eating because I'm eating my vegetables and can still have fruit as part of a RM when I want it.

I've decided that how good or bad the CAD plan is up to me. I know it works because it has worked before and it will again as long as I work it.

fatmad I'm glad you got some answers and you are happy with the treatment you will be getting. Sounds good.

I've got my plan for today. I'm back to planning ahead of time on MFP so I can work out the calories/carbs in advance. I can't remember but I think I have my total carbs set at 25 or 30 percent. I'm trying to keep the starchy carbs under 50 grams which puts me just at the edge of a low/moderate carb division. So some days may be low carba and some moderate. All total carbs will be under 90 grams. My total calories today is 1290.

Didn't go to church or go see Daddy today because our tire was almost flat. Decided to wait and go get 2 new tires tomorrow. I'll decide about church next Sunday. I have my favorite preachers on tv and it is just too easy to record and watch on tv at my convenience. I think I've gotten out of the habit of going and that is not good.

Have a good day.

pattygirl63 05-06-2018 10:54 PM

I actually had a successful Day 1 back on CAD. Ended up with a little less than 1500 calories which is good since my high end is set at 1530. Today has been a great day. Exercise ended up being cleaning the kitchen shining the silver appliances which I am wondering why I went with those. Oh 2 of them came with the house. I wish I had bought a black fridge. It is so difficult to keep them shining. Oh well, it was good exercise.

Carol Sue I hope your sore throat is gone.

Goodnight.

Wannabehealthy 05-07-2018 09:48 AM

My sore throat is gone today. It wasn't real sore, but just like it is in the beginning. We went out for dinner and I felt OK, but when I came home I got so sleepy and tired I went in to lay on the bed around 7PM. I woke up around 9 and came out and took my bedtime pills and went back to bed. I slept fitfully, but I did sleep until around 8 this morning. My nose is still runny though.

This was so funny. We didn't dress up to go out to eat, just casual, jeans and sneakers. When I came home I sat in my recliner for a while watching TV and kicked my shoes off. When I got back up to put my shoes back on I realized I had worn 2 different shoes!! LOL They were similar, both slip on sneakers, but one was all white and the other was white with blue trim. I really don't think anyone noticed because when we got to the restaurant they were crowded so we took a booth in the bar area. There are only 3 booths in there so not many people. We were supposed to go to Kohls after dinner but I was tired so we just came home. Someone might have noticed there. The fact that I get tired so quickly tells me I have a touch of something. I hope I'm not coming down with something. My immune system is probably a little compromised after my hospitalization.

Trish, I don't know my way around MFP very much and it just took me a good while to find where I had set my percentages. I have it set for 1300 calories because I can usually lose under 1500. I have my carbs set at 15% because that comes out to 49 and I would like to stay under 50, but it's hit or miss with me. I often go over that, but usually stay under 100. I also took out the section for sodium and replaced it with fiber. I am rarely high on sodium, but I really need to increase my fiber. I have my fiber set at 21 but yesterday, I only had 9 gms and that was the green beans and salad I ate with dinner. I will have to do something to change that. I really need the low carb to keep my blood sugar down, but that limits my fiber. I could go back to eating my fiber cereal, but I used to eat it at bedtime and now I don't want to eat at bedtime anymore. I might start adding it to breakfast and also upping my veggies. I used to eat a a big veggie lunch but now I have stopped eating lunch. I was ending up never being hungry when I eat too often. Eating only breakfast and dinner has me hungry enough to be eating. If I eat all the things I think I'm supposed to eat I end up overeating. I bought celery to eat as a snack but I still never eat it because I stopped eating after dinner. So much food, so little time. LOL Maybe if I wasn't sleeping so much I would be eating more. I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

I have come to the conclusion that in order to keep blood sugar and weight in line we have to cut carbs to some extent. Even diets that are not low carb restrict or limit starchy carbs. I like the word "limit" rather than "restrict" because that indicates we can have some in small quantities, and that keeps up from feeling deprived. I feel that I am just eating whatever I want and not paying enough attention to what and how much. I don't plan ahead because for the most part, I don't know what I will be eating. I enter my food at the end of the day and there's a good chance that I'm forgetting something I ate or entering the wrong amounts. Sometimes the choices on MFP are so varied in calorie counts, so I consider what I enter to be a guess at best. I think I need to cut back a little bit here and there to get the weight loss going again. I rarely feel true hunger, and that tells me I'm eating too much. I should be feeling some hunger before my meals, although not famished.

I also have stainless steel appliances and I wish I had not bought them. They are terrible to clean. I can never remember to only touch the handle when opening and closing the door and I get finger prints all over it.

pattygirl63 05-07-2018 01:35 PM

Carol Sue I love the story of the shoes. With the way things are these days people might just think you were starting a new fashion trend. LOL!!!

I'm glad you don't have the sore throat any more. Remember your system probably isn't up to par yet. You probably need the rest you are getting. I think I am just now starting to feel more human because I am getting the rest I need. I was so run down last year from trying to take care of Daddy.

I talked to him yesterday and he was talking about going back home. I feel bad about the way I feel about that, but DS and I talked about it this morning. We just don't have the stamina to take care of him at home, plus we are able to. No one was more surprised at me getting sick enough to go in the hospital like I did a year ago because I usually can keep going when no one else can, but I became so run down from doing too much. We agreed that we cannot do that again. There are days when it is difficult to go out to see him, but it is so much easier because I know I can go in and leave. I don't have to worry about his meds or what he is eating or cleaning etc like I had to do last year. I know he wants to go home, but he is healthier and better off where he is. I hope he can see that.

I'm saying all that to say give yourself time to bounce back from your hospital stay. I think it sometimes takes us a little longer than it did when we were younger.

Headed out to get new tires etc. BBL

Wannabehealthy 05-07-2018 02:35 PM

Trish, back in the 80s my friend's daughter always wore mismatched shoes but she was a high school teenager. LOL It would have been even funnier if I had them on the wrong feet.

I feel bad that your Dad wants to go back home. That's sad, but it's just not possible in his condition. He is best if he has the day to day care that you and your sister are not able to give him. I hope he realizes that soon. It would be nice if he could make some friends there and feel more at home.

pattygirl63 05-07-2018 10:04 PM

Come to find out the facility is saying they will release Daddy on the 26th of this month because his 100 days is up. The said thing is that he can't take care of himself and we can't take care of him. Medicaid has denied him so we are having to repeal it. They said he makes to much money but my niece says that isn't true. He is just under the limit. So we have to find some way to get him help. I think he is worried because he may have to find another place to go. This has really got him depressed and we are searching for what to do.

Got our new tires put on front of car and front tires moved to back. DH as always got the best tires which make me feel comfortable driving my car. I say the best because my Daddy was one of the 3 general foreman's for the tired company that was here in town for 35 yrs and he always told us these were the best. Roads were so bad in SC we lost one of our hub caps and lost another one somewhere here in TX so DH got 4 new wheels they make now without the need of hub caps. Looks fairly nice. I always loved white wall tires so they never look as nice as they did when we could buy them. I understand why they stopped making them but I thought they really dressed up our cars. Oh well. I guess it is called progress. LOL

Today has been another good day. We got a whole lot of walking done. It took an hour and a half before they even started working on our car. After sitting waiting for over an hour, DH and I decided to walk over to Home Depot. Not a bad thing when I was younger, but quite a walk for now. However, we walked over and by the time we came back our car was ready. Then we briskly walked through Sam's club because we still had to go to Walmart before we could get home. Ran into my niece and her youngest son at Walmart and talked to them for so long that DH decided to just get us some cheeseburgers from McD's because it was going to be so late eating. I knew he had to be feeling bad because he took his medicine at 1ish and I don't take any diabetic meds and I was really dragging. I knew my bs was low. I came home and checked it and it was 113. He never checks his other than the FBS. I bet he would find his bs is low at those times.

I probably won't need another meal or even a snack tonight because I don't want a high reading in the morning. DH and I are both drinking a lot of water this evening. It was hot in the stores and I think we got dehydrated. I don't know what the hi was today but it is supposed to be 92 tomorrow. Thank God for AC.

I'm finding that CAD is making me feel like I'm in more in control. Having the option not to have a CM or CS this evening. Doesn't feel like a diet at all.
I am writing down what I eat everyday although I'm not putting it on MFP because I want to be able to take my FBS in the morning and have a record of what I ate the night before if the reading is up.

Catch you tomorrow.

Wannabehealthy 05-08-2018 08:02 AM

Trish, I think you felt bad with the blood sugar reading of 113 because your body isn't used to it being that low, because it really isn't low. It's not considered low until it goes below 70. The more often your blood sugar goes down the more your body will adjust to it. I wish I could get more lower readings like that. DH doesn't eat very much when he eats, so he wants to eat more often, so I never get hungry and my blood sugar doesn't get a chance to go low enough. He eats breakfast, then 2 hours later he's making lunch. That's one time that I don't usually eat with him. Breakfast usually lasts me until 3-4 o'clock before I start to get hungry. I was really hungry when I first got up around 6AM but after I had a cup of coffee it went away.

We went out again last night but we only had the soup and salad bar. Today I am going to make stuffed peppers and those frozen green beans that we like so much. I bought 2 more bags of them when I went to Aldi's. A bag is good for 2 dinners for us.

I am scheduled to go for jury duty tomorrow. I have to check online after 5PM to see if I have to go. I really, really don't want to do it, so I'm hoping I will be excused. I'm still not walking well enough to be traipsing around the courthouse, but I don't have a valid doctor's excuse. Tomorrow is our 37th wedding anniversary and it's supposed to be a beautiful day here. I want to stay home.

I am planning on calling the foot doctor today for an appointment. This foot doesn't seem to be getting better like the other one did last year. I hope they have an easy solution. I don't want to be limping all summer.

We also have to go somewhere to get a new microwave oven. We have the one over the stove, and DH thinks ours is leaking. I want to get a smaller one because we only use it for heating things up occasionally and defrosting meat. I remember back in the day when you had to get your meat out to defrost in the morning or else you didn't have anything to cook for dinner.

So that will be my exciting day.

I hope you get this worked out for you Dad. It's a shame there is so much red tape to care for our senior citizens who were the backbone of our country for so many years.

Wannabehealthy 05-09-2018 06:25 AM

Well, I didn't have to go for jury duty! Yay!

pattygirl63 05-09-2018 02:19 PM

Carol Sue I thought of you this morning and wondered if you had to go to jury duty. I'm glad you didn't have to since you have been having problems with your foot. DH is wanting me to start walking with him to the mail box everyday. When we moved here they had started putting all the main in 2 places in the neighborhood rather than us having individual ones. I know it would be good for me to do, but it is quite a walk and my left leg really ached after we walked to Home Depot, walked around the store and then walked back to get the car. I ended up using the 2 Old Goats lotion I bought for aches and pains from Amazon on my leg twice and had to take Tylenol twice before bed time. However, I'm thinking about trying it. If it would get him moving, I just have to do it hoping that the leg would eventually adjust and stop hurting. Wish I knew where my good walker is as I would feel more comfortable using it.

DS has been trying to talk to someone since Monday to help us get things worked out for Daddy. No one wants to do any thing but give her the run around. She has asked her daughter to help. She is going to try to take off work one day within the next few weeks to go with her to see what we can get done. She is the one who is a social worker for the Cancer association so she deals with those things all the time.

The therapist told Daddy they are going to start working on his balance and him standing up and from what he is saying to me, this is a 30 day program where they seem to think they can get him walking again. The problem is the 30 days since he doesn't have 30 days left on his 100 days. I can't believe that his insurance company doesn't have a way of extending his stay as long as he is improving. We just need someone who can and will give us that info. I would have no problem calling his insurance company and asking, but with the laws these days, they won't talk to me cause I'm not the one with Medical Power of Attorney. She will have to wait until her daughter can go with her and see what they can work out.

I'm on Day 4 of CAD. I am really enjoying it this time. The FB group is getting more active and a number of us are coming back to CAD and that is nice as we encourage each other. Weight is coming off again and although FBS isn't where I want it... it isn't going really high any more. I had some cottage cheese with a small tomato in it last night a little later than usual. I checked my bs before bedtime and it 178. So I won't be eating cottage cheese any more. I had it later than 8 and I may have either had too much and might have been able to eat a smaller snack size or it could have been the tomato since Heller's really discouraged tomatoes at CM/CS. They did allow half of one, but these are those tomatoes that are as small as cherry tomato but the next size up and I always figure it would be half of a regular sized tomato. Not worth the 178 bs reading so I'll drop both for an evening snack or meal.

We had the McD's cheeseburger Monday and I made chili dogs yesterday which we always use Sara Lee Multigrain for hot dogs and homemade burgers, but I didn't like the brand of hot dog chili sauce I bought. It seemed awfully thick and salty. That could have been part of the high carb last night. The nice thing I did notice is that my bedtime readings are higher than my FBS readings. That never happened for me before so I think that shows that CAD works very well for me. Today is a better menu plan. We are having Swai fish fillets with salad and veggies and I'm going to cook some brown rice to go with it. Hopefully I will be satisfied enough not to need a CM or CS.

Have a good day.

Wannabehealthy 05-09-2018 03:57 PM

Trish, I was very glad I didn't have to go for jury duty. I ended up sleeping very well last night. I woke up at 4 and just looked at the clock and fell back to sleep until 6. I think worrying about jury duty has me sleeping poorly for a few nights.

We ate dinner very early today, around 2:30. I made the stuffed peppers I didn't make yesterday. For the two of them I used 2 hamburger patties and 1/4 C of brown rice. I cooked the green beans with it. I hope I can make it to bedtime without eating again. I feel satisfied but not particularly full.

I drank some ACV water today and will have another glass of it soon. I'm going to try it again and see if it does anything.


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