Thank you Trish! I am having some, ahm, bathroom issues and then read your post mentioning fiber and remembered this recipe http://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/201...ot-cereal.html (recipe at bottom of post) this has alot of fiber. I'm sure you could sub an alternative sugar substitute if you do not have erythritol. I might have this for a snack later
Thank you Trish! I am having some, ahm, bathroom issues and then read your post mentioning fiber and remembered this recipe http://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/201...ot-cereal.html (recipe at bottom of post) this has alot of fiber. I'm sure you could sub an alternative sugar substitute if you do not have erythritol. I might have this for a snack later
Thanks Shannon. I just might have that for my snack today instead of the apple and cheese. Sure will help with the fiber problem and stay lowcarb.
I'll make it with my Stevia.
My 3.5 yr old threw a ginormous tantrum tonight before bed. She is exhausted, having gotten to bed late several nights in a row but still waking early. Used to when that happened, after I got her to sleep I would end up eating to comfort myself because I just struggle with feeling like a sub-optimal mom but times have changed and I am just chilling out a little before washing dishes, etc from dinner. That's a nice change. I hated feeling bad, eating to feel better but instead feeling bloated and guilty.
Today I've been back on plan, feeling better about the weekend off plan dinners. I tried the cauliflower rice tonight and it was ok. The hubby and I both ate it but
I'd say the mashed version was yummier for me. I just sauteed garlic with it and added salt and Mrs Dash to it but I want to try the "fried rice" and "mexican" versions before I judge it too critically.
Dinner is when I like to experiment but golly gee, it is also the worst time of day with my daughter. I think I need a new plan. I used to subscribe to this service called 5 Dinners 1 Hour (their website is down right now or I'd post a link). They provided recipes for 5 meals with instructions on doing all the prep in 1 hour on Sundays. I really liked it but they don't have a low carb version. I wrote and asked if they would consider it but the response was that other plans were easily made low carb with substitutions. I'm not too sure about that being true but I really wish they would come up with one! I need a way to prep most of the meal ahead of time but it has to be stuff the hubby will eat too. I am going to think on this a bit. I have got to come up with something. I do stay at home but in order to do things in the kitchen I have to let my daughter watch TV and she is simply watching too much right now.
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Even though I have been adding some beans to my eggs and salads, I'm still not getting enough fiber to do the trick, so I started back eating a few of my fiber crackers. It raises my BS a little bit, but still nowhere near what I had a month ago. I usually eat them at bedtime, but I am going to add them to a meal instead and they might not spike me as much. I only eat a few, never more than 5, and they are small. 15 crackers is considered a serving.
DH is getting up and moving around more and he finally ate last night without feeling sick. A hamburger patty and some tater tots. He still gets a lot of pain, but I told him that's because he is not taking the anti-viral they prescribed. He said "I don't believe THAT." He makes his own rules. Every time the pain gets bad he says he wants to go to the ER and I told him they are just going to MAKE you take the meds. So, I do feel bad for him, but he makes me angry that he moans and groans about something he could control if he would do what the doctor says. Even his son is yelling at him because he's not taking the meds, but he's stubborn. If he says no, it's no.
I am down 1 more lb today. It's so slow, but down is down, and I'm happy about it.
I have cancelled my Easter family dinner. DH told me to. I was feeling a lot of pressure over it, wondering if I was going to be able to get everything done, wondering how he was going to feel. I'm relieved. Everyone was understanding and I think I gave them enough time to make other plans. His one brother already said he wasn't coming because he didn't want to catch the shingles. DR said he would no longer be contageous by then, but who knows. I'm wondering how long it will take to find out if I caught it or not. I've tried not to have contact with him, but I've been helping him change clothes and rubbing his back (through his shirt.) I don't know exactly how much contact you have to have to catch it. He didn't catch it when I had it, and I think my immune system is pretty strong right now with my high vegetable intake.
Shannon, congrats on being in Onederland! Isn't it Onderful? Dealing with a young child can be stressful, but you are handling it well. I would make the mashed cauliflower because I know I would like it but it would just be a small portion for myself because DH would not eat it. He wouldn't even try it. He eats cauliflower, but he wants his potatoes to be potatoes. I love the idea of cooking meals on Sunday for the rest of the week, but DH would never eat food that wasn't made fresh. He has some very strange ways. That's about all I can say. LOL I always tell him "Why couldn't I have married one of those guys who eats whatever you put in front of him?" That will be a priority next time. LOL He loves to eat in restaurants. I asked him "Do you think they go back there and start cooking when you place your order? It's premade!! They defrost it and serve it to you!"
I don't know where Monday went. It's Tuesday already, and I will have to bundle the garbage and take it out to the curb for tomorrow. He says he will do it, but he hasn't even been down the cellar steps in a week. I will put on my big-girl pants and do what has to be done.
Have a good day!
EDIT: I JUST WENT IN TO CHANGE MY TICKER AND SAW THAT I DID NOT GO DOWN A LB. I WENT UP!!! NOT HAPPY, BUT IT HAPPENS TO ALL OF US AT SOME TIME OR ANOTHER!!!!!
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I didn't do well yesterday and not sure why. Decided at lunch time to have a CAD reward meal and eat lowcarb for dinner and then everything was downhill from there because I was hungry all evening. It was like I couldn't get enough to eat. I just can't do that any more. Plus it is obvious to me that Atkins has suddenly become the only way for me to eat because it controls my fbs/bs. Decided not to beat myself up, but learn the lesson and get back on track this morning. Wasn't really fond of the idea, but had my eggs, bacon and cheese and added brussel sprouts to the meal so that I would have the feeling of eating fiber. Could have had greens but not in the mood for that either. But then I like the greens in omelets and wasn't in the mood for an omelet. My stomach wasn't feeling great this morning so I think I was just being ornary in my old age. It did help settle my tummy, so glad I chose to eat it. Planning shrimp scampi for lunch, but not sure what I will have tonight.
I ordered the Atkins Made Easy book and it should arrive tomorrow. I know from their website that they've made some changes and also the book is supposed to make it easier to explain the plan with skeptics. It also has sample menus for each phase.
Shannon You are a good Mom. I remember wanting to do all the things you do. I was a Register babysitter in my home when my children were growing up so I could be home mainly because my daughter was a burn victim and I wanted to be there for her when she would come home from surgeries. I was very picky about my children and those I kept during the day. I fed all of them as healthy as we knew to do at that time. My sister-in-law babysat and we would trade off so we could get paid while on vacation etc. I loved being with the children and decided to cut my vacation short and go back to work a few days early one time. When fed the children the 1st day back said to me, "Aunt Pat, I'm so glad you're back. I like peanut butter sandwiches, but not everyday". I guess I spoiled them, but I felt it was important to feed them healthy and a variety so they didn't get bored with the food. I was always looking for new recipes to cook for my family and those little kids. I would have really had a ball if I'd had the internet. Great job for not using food to deal with the stress. You are doing great.
Carol Sue My 1st 2 hubbies would eat just about anything. I think the only thing Hubby #2 wouldn't eat was cucumbers. When he was a kid, he argued with his mom that nothing that tasted as good as a pickle could possibly come from a cucumber. LOL Now DH #3 is so picky about everything. One of his favorite foods is cauliflower, but since he eats a package a day made with butter, swiss cheese and Ragu double cheese, I don't ever make it. I love the way he makes it, but I would add a little onion to it and it would be great for me. I just won't make it just for me. These hubbies are strange creatures.
Well, I hear him moving around so guess I will go. I think we are all supposed to get rain and colder weather for a few days here on the east. Looks like Ruthie may still be getting snow. I know she will be glad when it clears up. Maybe we will get some pretty weather after Easter. I hope so.
I've been eating low carb for a month, but not really watching calories. My fbs has stayed about same 121-128. The last few days I am watching portions and not eating more than 500 calories at a time. FBS was 90 this morning!
I've always wondered about Biggest Loser. There are 400 pound guys who lose 50 pounds and then don't have Type 2 anymore. How can they still weigh 350 pounds and have lowered their sugar that much? I wonder if lower calorie, lower portions - is what does it, even more than actually losing pounds. Gives the pancreas a rest between meals and I really think the not stuffing oneself has a lot to do with T2 sugar levels. Exercise might help them also though, they exercise so much. What do you think?
Where is Rennie? I promise I'm not a stalker but knowing she lives near me makes me notice more when she isn't posting!
Trish you crack me up, "these hubbies are strange creatures" So true!! Tonight mine said (following one of my cooking experiments) "I eat whatever you put in front of me, I no longer eat for pleasure but just to eat, where is the salt? Salt will cure it." LOL!
Carol Sue he isn't taking the anti-viral? Oy! No wonder he's still in pain. Men! We are eating out this year for Easter. My brother is a youth pastor and has an egg hunt to handle on Sat and be in church on Sun. and we will be in church here, an hour away. I guess we will go to an early service and then meet my family out somewhere.
Kris I am at the one month mark as well. My fasting hasn't really improved and strangely tonight, for example, it's 124 before bed and I haven't had anything for several hours and very low carb at dinner. I don't know. My weight is going down though so I'm kind of clinging to the hope that weightloss will help. It can't hurt so I press on.
Today was ok. I made a mistake this morning of taking too long to get moving and didn't get breakfast before I rushed to get my daughter to preschool. Today was a party day and I was planning to stay. I got there and felt horrible so I ended up leaving, going home to eat and then returning later. I used to run out without eating all the time. Times are changing.
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Shannon, sometimes Rennie is absent for a few days then pops back in, so I am used to her doing this. I do hope nothing is wrong, but she will probably be back before the week is over. Another poster, FatMad does the same thing, and for longer periods of time.
Trish- I was a copycat last night and ate some bread. I know I can't do that, but I think stress got to me and I wanted instant relief. All I got is I gained another pound and my blood sugar was in the 160's this morning. So it's true. We HAVE to do low carb. Period. The sooner we accept that fact the better off we will be.
Kris - The small meals are a big factor with diabetes. That's something I have to be very careful about. One of my biggest problems is portion control. Watching your calories per meal is what's doing it! I need to learn from your experience. Once I start eating, I have a tendancy to keep eating until I'm stuffed. I guess I've done that for so long that my body wants that.
On Biggest Loser, I think it's the exercise, plus the food choices and quantities that make the BS drop so quickly. Even though they are still big, a 50 lb loss is a lot, and combined with everything else is enough to lower their BS. They are not cured, IMO, just controlled with diet and exercise. If they stop exercising and eating the old way, their BS will go up. There are people who weight 300-400 lbs who aren't diabetic. For whatever reason, their bodies are able to handle glucose correctly even though they are obese. Once your body is not able to handle the glucose, there's no going back. It can be controlled, but it's not cured. Your pancreas is still impaired. If you go back to your old eating pattern your glucose levels will rise. This is a contraversial issue and not everyone agrees with it.
Shannon, sometimes Rennie is absent for a few days then pops back in, so I am used to her doing this. I do hope nothing is wrong, but she will probably be back before the week is over. Another poster, FatMad does the same thing, and for longer periods of time.
Trish- I was a copycat last night and ate some bread. I know I can't do that, but I think stress got to me and I wanted instant relief. All I got is I gained another pound and my blood sugar was in the 160's this morning. So it's true. We HAVE to do low carb. Period. The sooner we accept that fact the better off we will be.
Kris - The small meals are a big factor with diabetes. That's something I have to be very careful about. One of my biggest problems is portion control. Watching your calories per meal is what's doing it! I need to learn from your experience. Once I start eating, I have a tendancy to keep eating until I'm stuffed. I guess I've done that for so long that my body wants that.
On Biggest Loser, I think it's the exercise, plus the food choices and quantities that make the BS drop so quickly. Even though they are still big, a 50 lb loss is a lot, and combined with everything else is enough to lower their BS. They are not cured, IMO, just controlled with diet and exercise. If they stop exercising and eating the old way, their BS will go up. There are people who weight 300-400 lbs who aren't diabetic. For whatever reason, their bodies are able to handle glucose correctly even though they are obese. Once your body is not able to handle the glucose, there's no going back. It can be controlled, but it's not cured. Your pancreas is still impaired. If you go back to your old eating pattern your glucose levels will rise. This is a contraversial issue and not everyone agrees with it.
Thanks Carol Sue!
Glucose control is an interesting thing. My husband is 419 and 6'4", he looks like he is carrying triplets. He has a perfect fasting glucose and A1c. Go figure. I thought it would be inevitable that he would become diabetic having gained almost 120 lbs since we married but nope, his labs are always normal. I do not understand but I think it shows that weight does not cause diabetes but it can be a factor in how your body handles the excess glucose or insulin that doesn't function well.
I have bible study this morning so it's time to rush rush rush!
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The bread and starchy carbs are definitely a no-no for me. Yesterday morning my fbs was 145 and weight was 227. One day back on Induction and fbs is 114 and weight back down to 224.4 this moring. Talk about lesson learned. Bad stomach problems last few days too. I guess one thing is true from Intuitive Eating "listen to your body. It will tell you what it needs" or in my case what it does NOT need. I got the new book yesterday so read the 1st 2 chapters and part of chapter about Phase 1 Induction.
You should eat 4 to 6 oz protein at each meal. It can be be vegetarian protein not just meat. And you are supposed to eat a minimum of 6 servings of veggies a day. I don't think I'm always doing that which may be why I'm tired all the time. They say to be sure and use full fat cheese and meat without fillers and absolutely no low fat products.
I don't think I'm going to track on MFP as some of the numbers mess with my mind. I tried to adjust the carb/protein/fat ratio and just can't get it right. Any way the book says if you follow the plan women only eat between 1500 to 1800 calories.
The Atkins bars and shakes are for emergencies or for people on the go. However, it is best not to use them all the time.
Ok, back home now....wanted to add Carol Sue is correct, once your body begins losing it's ability to respond properly to glucose/insulin, we can lose weight and eat properly which can bring it into 'control' but from what I understand we will always be at risk if we stop doing the things that help us control it. I don't think we can just go back to eating mostly carbs and be ok. That being said, there is reversal of diabetes. Honestly, I'm not sure there is anything published yet on this, it was something I heard snippets about in my previous job. Gastric bypass removes an area of the intestine that is being investigated. There is some evidence that something important to glucose control goes on in that area and when it is removed, proper bodily function is restored. Don't quote me or even fully accept what I'm saying because I'm not taking the time to look to see if it has indeed been published but I know as of two years ago it was definitely being discussed amongst scientists. So, if true, that may represent reversal. Otherwise, I think we are just keeping it under control. Again, as Carol Sue said, this is a controversial subject and opinions/terminology may differ amongst those reading.
Interesting! Bernstein says there is something in the colon that gets triggered when large amounts of food are ingested - I can't remember what it is. But with glucose problems, it is something we don't want. Wonder if that has anything to do with what Shannon is talking about.
Ate almost exactly the same thing yesterday as I did Monday. Exercise and bedtime etc all same. First day fbs was 109, this morning back to 121. I did have a piece of cheese an hour or two have dinner on Monday though, and then a few too many pickles on Tuesday night. Anyone notice salt effecting their fbs?
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Shannon, I have heard that about gastric bypass surgery, but I've always wondered if it worked long term. I did some googling and some say yes, some say no. Anyone can put anything on the internet and it cannot be taken as gospel. A woman at work had her diabetes reversed with gastric bypass, but now that I'm retired, I never see her to ask if her diabetes stayed gone. One website said that if the diabetes is far enough progressed to cause damage to the Beta Cells, that damage cannot be repaired, and they will never again operate the way they did originally.
Trish, you might be getting more servings of veggies than you realize. Cooked veggies are 1/2 c per serving and salad veggies like lettuce are 1 cup per serving. That's really not very much. I had cooked baby carrots and brussels sprouts for lunch and that was 1 1/2 Cups. So 3 servings right there. When I eat a salad, it's rarely only 1 cup. It's at least 2 cups or more.
I don't track every day, but when I first started this low carb plan I was running around 800-1000 calories. I kept trying to up it to at least 1200. Recently I have been tracking at 1200-1400. I think I am going to eat what I want and not worry about calories. I'm saying that if I only eat 900 calories and I'm satisfied, I will not try to increase it to meet someone else's idea of what I should be eating. I believe that "starvation mode" is a myth. I read that somewhere...low calories can slow your metabolism a bit, but not enough to make that big of a difference. Otherwise, anorexics would not get so thin. Their body would hold on to the fat. I know a lot of people who eat 1000 cals a day or less and they are losing. I'm struggling. I need to change something, so this will be my next experiment to see if I can get the scale moving downward.
Kris, I have not noticed any difference with salt, but I don't eat pickles. I eat olives, which would be on the same order, but haven't paid that much attention to how they effect blood sugar. It's crazy sometimes. You can never tell what it's going to do. I think this is why doctors base their findings more on A1c rather than individual daily testing. Does your meter show averages? Mine shows 14 and 30 day averages. I never used to pay any attention to them, but recently I noticed how far they have come down since I made the recent changes. I have a chart that tells you what your A1c would be based on your average blood glucose. Of course, if you're only testing fasting and not testing post prandial you won't get a true average.
Just thought of something....did the pickles contain sugar?
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Carol Sue I feel the same way about eating as much as someone else thinks I should eat. When I've tracked, I've seen some days lower than others as it seems to vary according to how my hunger is each day. I know when my sister had lap band surgery, they had her eating only 500 calories a day of low carb meals. I remember thinking "why would you have surgery if you are going to eat only 500 cals". If you're eating only 500 calories, of course you're going to lose weight. My point is that if you can live on 500 calories a day, then 900 or 1000 cals isn't going to hurt you. Just my theory. I'm just counting carbs now in a notebook, no calorie counting. It is so easy because just about everything has label info that makes it easier.
Kris I honestly believe and have often thout that salt (because I have a tendency to retain fluid) does affect my fbs except when I'm eating Atkins Induction because it is a natural diuretic. Atkins recommends eating salt when on Atkins to keep from having leg cramps which I get really bad when I low carb with low sodium. However, I still don't eat a lot of sodium. I've also learned that how much sleep I get also affects it. It is amazing what can or cannot affect your FBS.
Shannon It is true that once we get the diabetes under control that we cannot go back to our old way of eating. I am a perfect example of that fact. I've had mine under control 2x's. Once I did it with lowfat and the second time just eating healthy, no real diet. It was more like Intuitive Eating although I had never heard that term at the time. Actually I guess I did it 3x, because about 5 or 6 yrs ago, I did Atkins and got my fbs and all my other numbers down to normal. I never got did get the weight down to goal, but when I got things normal, I started eating my old way again and here I am having to do this over again. I know I've always tried to do this my way, but I think I finally got it into my head that this has to be a lifestyle.
I'm not doing well right now. I have allowed my eating to get out of control. Weight is up and so is fbs. Gonna work on a new start tomorrow and hope I make it the entire day. One day at a time, however today started off great then mid-afternoon I ate every wrong thing there was ... so I'll try again tomorrow.
