Yes Ellis,

I have a wonderful family! Three boys and one girl. We are all very close although they all have very busy careers and whatever. We keep in touch on a daily basis and make sure we see each other a couple times a month if not more. My children get together every week, whether it's golfing, going to dinner or just hanging out they are always together. So it's a nice feeling knowing that they are each others best friends.

I will check out that site you sent, thank you! As far as how much I weigh, well LOL LOL I know I told you to ask me anything but.... I'll give you a hint, I am looking at 16/18 size dresses, mostly 18 Just having fun with you.

Have a great day everyone~~~Meg

HI EVERYONE!!!!

Meg-You have what I want!!! I keep saying "If they like me again when they are grown up I will be happy!" Okay, I exaggerate, but the 12 year old loves me one day and says i am mean the next!!! The 15 year old just doesn't want me to embarass him. About the personal information....I need to know if you have attached earlobes or the dangley kind....(joke) I KNEW you were exaggerating about your age!!! I am about to turn 44, so you are only 6 years older than me. I think Ellis is about 6 years younger than me, so if you are old, then I am too!!! And I am not ready for that, so YOU CAN"T BE OLD YET!!! You have to admit that my logic is impeccable. We are ALL young and gorgeous here.

Mrs. M-I agree with Liz....BEEN THERE!!! My hubby is USUALLY patient, but sometimes he gets mad like that too. (heck, sometimes I do!!) You see your child getting more upset, and know that that will make your hubby angrier, and you know that THEN your child will cry even more. You feel frustrated that your husband is making it worse, but you understand his anger, because you wish that your baby would go to sleep too. You feel pulled in two directions, and wish they'd BOTH be quiet, and you wonder why it is always YOU who has to mediate and stay calm. Am I close? I have spent a lot of nights crying after getting the boys to bed too. I don't have that problem so much now that they are older, but new problems come along to take their place!!

Liz-I hate shopping too. I don't much like the mirrors in the stores. They add 100 pounds!!! (At least that is MY experience. I KNOW that woman in there can't be ME!!) I like some of WE BE BOP's clothes. some of them are too patchy looking for me, but some of them are funky looking, and fun.

Ellis-I only have ONE thing to add to your camping scenario. On top of everything else, you are having your period. Seems like I usually am when we are camping, and it is NOT fun. That is one good thing about being on the progesterone. I have to keep track of the 10 days a month that i take the progesterone, and I know my period starts 2 or 3 days afterwards. Somewhere you asked if anyone was menstruating right now, and yes I am, but I am at the end of it. I thought women's periods were only supposed to co-ordinate when they were physically near!!!

Bon giorno!

huh. No one here is old! I'm not sure what old IS. I keep having to redefine it. My parents are 77, and they're NOT old! They have a few physical ailments (don't we all?), but for the most part they're fit, active, very attractive and very cool.

Wow Meg... you talk to your children everyday!? That's wonderful. It sounds as though you have a very loving family. I'm determined to be happy in myself, no matter how much my children may love/hate me when they grow up. But I really hope for a relationship like yours. My mother used to call me up to 6 times a day (mostly to dump on me), which I must admit drove me RIGHT up the wall!! But she's managed to get a grip on life, and now we talk about 5 times a week. Much more managable from MY point of view. Particularly considering I'M the one on drugs for depression.
I'm seriously considering getting or sewing a few of those "dusters" for MYSELF! They look quite lovely, and they'd cover a heck of a lot of bum and hips. They could be worn with pants, too. If only my upper arms weren't so fat...

Leens, what are we going to do... we're just NOT losing weight!

Liz, have you found a dress for Friday yet? What a bother! Good LUCK!!

MrsM, your problems aren't trivial at all. It's all relative. We all have a physical/mental limit at which we just can't take any more crap!!
Do you ever sleep with DD? I know it's not a good idea, but occasionally if my six year old is having a bit of a rough time I'll let him sleep with us. Sometimes it's just easier than being kept up/woken up repeatedly during the night. I need my sleep!! And sometimes he just needs a bit of comfort.
And I hate to generalize, but yes, it seems that it's usually the mother doing much of the nurturing... particularly at night. I have the most wonderful husband, but I secretly think that all men are aliens.
And as far as I'm concerned, you're camping!! I don't know what we're trying to prove to ourselves... living in the bush, cooking over an open fire, sleeping on the ground. We must be nuts!! Really, all we need is some time away from home, right? Like you said, quality time with the family. We don't have to be Neanderthals to do it!!

Den, how could I forget the dreaded period? Yup, I'm on my last day today. We're right on schedule. It really scares some men to know that friends will go onto the same cycle. We woman are POWERFUL!!
You're right... I always seem to have mine when we're camping, too.
DD is seeing the psychologist today. I'm going next week. I just hope I can keep the thought of $130 per hour out of my head while I'm there.
Well, it's been almost a week since I've had chips. I've been making up for by eating bridge mixture, but one thing at a time, right? And I've been exercising regularly. And I've gained 2 pounds. sigh. Must be muscle, right?

take care all...

I DUNNO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WAAAAAAAAAH !

Morning All,
Den - you nailed it right on the head, it is just so frustrating. It makes me feel SOOOOOOOOOOO much better knowing that i'm not the only one who has had to deal with this. Thank You.

Ellis - The only time DD is allowed to sleep with us is when she gets up in the middle of the night and has trouble getting back to sleep. Some people think i spoil her but i still rock her to sleep most nights. I find it very soothing for the both of us. If she doesn't want to rock i usually lay down with her in her bed until she goes to sleep (ok so sometimes i fall asleep first and hubby had to wake me up to get in my own bed ).

Meg - Good luck with the dress hunt, i'm sure you will find something absolutely wonderfull.

Liz - Thank You

I'm feeling really drained today but i'm trying to hang in there. I'm hoping it's the weather that's making me feel this way (it's really humid and looks like rain) and not the start of another downward spiral. Thank You Everyone.
MrsM

Hey! Where is everyone?!
Are you all secretly stuffing your faces like I am?

MrsM, I hope you're getting caught up on your rest. That's so beautiful that you still rock DD to sleep at night.

I give up... I'm going to have a small bag of chips as a treat everyday, and eat well the rest of the day. I did that one summer and lost 25 pounds. I just can't give up my chips... I eat too much of everything else if I do.

It's a lovely day but I'm irritable because I have to go the theatre tonight with friends. Which means I'll spend all day frantically searching for something to wear. aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

later darlings
ellis

Hey Ellis,

I have that same affliction!!! Panic!!!!! Even if I plan one hour before I go out, I get into a frenzy finding something to wear.

I love going out, but the thought of dressing ruins my whole evening or day, especially if it's HOT. You should see my dressing room when I get done...nothing left in closet, eveything is thrown all over the place. And it's the same darn stuff, so why do I think it's going to look any different everytime I try it on???????

Once I get there I calm down...and you will too, have a lovely time and try to remember (like I try to do) beauty comes from within. Easier said than done for some of us.

Eat those (few) chips if you need to. But just compensate for them. Might be the fix you need LOL

Have a great time at the theatre...what are you going to see?

Everyone else have a wonderful day, I'm off to the dentist. OUCH!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Meg

Got my outfit for tonight....will get hubby to take a pic and if I can figure it out will post...skirt, top and black blazar or antique sweater.....got nails polished and hair washed ....now I just need a nap!


Hope you are all having a great day!

I know what you guys mean about how we look affecting how we feel about ourselves when we go out...it is only human and know for a fact even the fit feel that way....

Didn't weigh in today....but getting back on track!

Bye for now

Liz

hello everyone!

I found something to wear last night that I was quite comfortable in. A pair of nice jeans, a black shirt, and a long black waistcoat. And I painted my toenails blue (thank you, DD) and wore my Birkenstocks. I was one of the youngest and thinnest there (you know these little theatres... lot's of elderly fat people who want a night out and end up snoozing through the play), so I felt pretty good. I could really feel those rolls of fat hiding under my waistcoat, though.
Yes, Meg... that's exactly how my dressing room looks right now. There are clothes strewn all over the floor. None of which fit me. Like you, I keep trying on the same darned stuff over and over. I don't know what we're expecting... some sort of miracle I suppose. It didn't fit me LAST year, but maybe it'll fit me TODAY! HA!! At least it wasn't hot... you're right... that is the WORST!!! I have nothing for hot weather that doesn't look like a flowing tent.
My closet is FULL of clothes. Really nice clothes. You know how "they" say, "If it doesn't fit, get rid of it."? Forget that!! I've got hundreds of items of good, classic, flattering clothes that I KNOW I'm going to get into again. And I've got about 3 reasonable looking "fat outfits", and dozen of ugly "fat outfits" (not fit to be seen out in outside the backyard). I think I'm one of those people who still can't believe they're fat. I refuse to accept it, and I refuse to buy a closet full of "nice-looking" fat clothes.
What did we see? Ummm, it was a Neil Simon... Rumors. Not good acting at all, but I had two glasses of wine and a heavy meal inside me, and I had a few hysterical giggles.

Liz, I'm glad you found an outfit (sounds lovely) and that you're back on track. We'd love to see a photo! I know what you mean about even the fit people feeling uncomfortable. I've promised myself that if I'm ever fit again that I am NOT going to take it for granted! I will feel good!!

Meg, I hope the trip to the dentist went well.

MrsM and Leens, are you doing alright?

Den, how's little DS doing? I just can't wait for the school year to be over! Oh, the stress...

have a wonderful weekend, all...
xoxo ellis

Hi everyone,

Ellis...my husband thinks I am the only nut case around. He walks out of the room shaking his head when I am trying to find something to wear. If I ask him if it looks ok he says "yes", then he goes down stairs and about a hour later I come down with something else on and he asks, "why did you bother asking"? I think he's getting used to it!!

Glad to hear your evening went well...we always seem to enjoy ourselves once we are there. Too bad we make llives so miserable for ourselves in the intrum.

Liz, you hotty, you better send those pictures

Hope everyone has a spendid Sunday!!~~~~Meg

Good Morning!!!

Liz and Ellis-you are both silly. You should just go and have fun and not worry about the small stuff so much. In other words, do as I say, not as I do!!

Meg-i'll ask my hubby how I look, and either he says great, and I look in the mirror and look like a hippo, OR he'll say, "Great, except for all the make-up." Mind you I hardly ever wear it, and when I do i don't wear much!!!

Well.....Hope everyoe is okay. I'm starting to feel my depression about my weight overtake my feelings about DS. SO, things are getting back to normal!!!

evening, all

VERY funny, Den. Just go and have fun and don't worry... sure... when you know that there'll be some skinny ***** of a babe at the party/theatre catching every male's eye. NOT that I really give a damn about the males. I just want her body. And I want to tuck my shirt in. And if I drop my program on the floor, I don't want to have to casually kick it under the bench because I'm too fat to bend over to pick it up.
Oh, make-up! I bought myself an eyeliner as a little pick-me-up treat. Hadn't worn make-up for years other than lipstick. I unskillfully applied the eyeliner, and went out to get DH's reaction. He looked at me and said, "Did you know you have a black eye?" huh!

Meg, when MY husband says I look nice, I know it's because he just wants me to be ready NOW, so I immediately go and change.
Men are so lucky. They've got so few choices, and nobody even LOOKS at them!! Really, women only dress for each other. So that no one will say, "Did you see what SHE was wearing?!?! That dress!! She looked like SUCH a dog!"

Gosh, I'm not in the forum that I thought I was. I was just going to say something to Shel. And I think I swore. Excuse me.

Liz, Leens, MrsM, how are you?

Listen girls, we're kickin' butt this week.
Hear me?

xo ellis

HI!!!!!!!!!!!

One day down, 1,599,999,999 to go!!! But seriously, I stuck to it, and I think I'm finally getting back on track!!

Ellis-I'm more interested in DH's body than the skinny *****'s.....OOPS!!! TYou mean you want to LOOK like her! ......my mistake..........Okay, you know i'm feeling better when I start making cracks like that!!! I know what you mean about tucking your shirt in, I gave up on that YEARS ago! I don't even feel stressed about losing a lot of weight any more. i have gotten so heavy that my MAIN goal is to be able to move around and breath easily, and to be healthier.

WHERE IS EVERYBODY ELSE? I HOPE ELLIS'S POTTY MOUTH DIDN'T TURN YOU OFF, 'CAUSE I FOR ONE DO NOT CONDONE ALL THIS !@@#$%! SWEARING!!!!

Seriously, hope everyone is doing well!!!!!

oh dear, I'm so sorry. I NEVER swear other than in another forum as a bit of a lark. Provides shock value. Please, absolve me from my sins.
Hey Den, I did well, too!! Except I had a headache. And I drank 14 cups of water. And I'm still thirsty. What's wrong with me? I NEVER drink that much! I usually drink 6 cups a day.
Speaking of potties, I think I have potty BREATH!!
I'm dying for a big bowl of cereal.

Where is everyone else? Are we alone again, Den?
IS EVERYONE OKAY!!!???

xo
ellis

I WANT SOME SUGAR!!!!!

ps
I KNEW you'd think I was lusting after a woman, Den.
You are VERY crude.